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Title: Conspiracy Theory Goes Viral that CPS ‘Steals’ Children From Anti-Vax Parents
Source: www.patheos.com
URL Source: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/witho ... hildren-from-anti-vax-parents/
Published: Mar 1, 2019
Author: Katie Joy
Post Date: 2019-03-02 19:51:08 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 6677
Comments: 116

“Omg Omg Omg! Arizona Chandler police department just broke in Sarah Becks door WITHOUT a warrant!!! Unvaxxed kids are being stolen!” The frantic post shared on Facebook went viral earlier this week. Anti-vax conspiracy theorists swarmed and shared the update all over social media. However, the story provided in the update wasn’t true. Arizona police say the children were in immediate medical danger and they had a warrant to remove the children from home.

When the post was shared earlier this week by a friend of Sarah Beck, anti-vaxxers shared the information in groups and on pages. Individuals expressed outrage, anger, and paranoia that police were removing children from anti-vaccine parents.

Almost immediately discussions broke out that Arizona DCS was kidnapping unvaccinated children to sell them into foster care. Many said that unvaccinated children are highly in demand because they are incredibly healthy. Several discussed an Arizona ‘kidnapping cartel.”

While many believed the post at face value, others that knew the family personally attempted to stop the misinformation from spreading. One woman, a former friend of Sarah’s, said the post left out critical details about the case.

For instance, she said DCS had been involved with the family multiple times. Additionally, she said the police took the children because a doctor feared one of the children had meningitis.

According to the woman, Sarah had taken her 2-year-old son to see their naturopath earlier in the day. At the clinic, the boy, Heder, had a fever of 105 degrees. The naturopath told Sarah that she needed to take Heder to the hospital. Sarah didn’t agree with the provider and left the clinic.

Later in the day, Sarah called the naturopath to tell them she would not be taking her son to the hospital. Sarah expressed to the doctor that his fever had gone down and she wasn’t concerned anymore. When the naturopath learned the boy was still at home, they called the Department of Child Safety and filed a report.

Based on the information provided by the former friend, the children’s vaccination status did not play a role in the case.

As the rumors spread online, Sarah and her partner Brooks Bryce reached out to local media to cover the story. Multiple news outlets in Arizona picked up the story.

AZ Family interviewed the couple outside of their home. They said that police broke down their door and took their three children. Sarah said that police came to the house after a naturopath reported her to DCS for failing to bring her son to the hospital.

In the interview, Sarah confirmed everything her former friend shared online earlier in the week. At the clinic, her son Heder had a fever of 105. Sarah said she retook his temperature in the car on the way home. According to Sarah, the Heder’s temperature was 102. She noted that Heder acted normal in the car and danced with his siblings.

She admitted that she called the naturopath and told them that she wasn’t concerned about Heder’s fever. However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

After receiving the report from the doctor, DCS reached out to the parents to investigate. Brooks said that he spoke with a social worker and refused to take his son to the hospital. Brooks told AZ Family,

“They said ‘Brooks, you have to come out of your house right now… we have to check on them [kids],’ and I said, ‘I have Heber in my arms, he’s doing fine, his temperature is 100 degrees. He’s safe he’s asleep, could you please just leave us alone,’” Brooks Bryce, the boy’s dad, said.

Unable to convince the couple to take Heder to the hospital, DCS requested a temporary custody order from a judge. Police showed up at the couples home with the custody order and knocked on the door multiple times. Brooks refused to open the door and comply with their requests.

Because Brooks would not cooperate with police, authorities were forced to bust down the front door to remove the children. Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.

The police report indicated that the home had clutter all over the floor which made it difficult to walk. In one of the children’s bedroom, authorities found vomit all over the beds. The couple admitted the children had vomited several times and they had not cleaned up the mess.

Details from the police report:

-“there was a present danger [to the child] that required immediate medical attention”

-“Brooks and Sarah refused to come outside and refused to let DCS check on the welfare of [the child].”

-“There was a court order signed by the judge giving DCS temporary custody of [the child] in order to get him medical treatment.”

In the couple’s bedroom, police found a shotgun that was not locked or secured. Brooks disputed the claim about the gun and insisted the weapon doesn’t work.

After completing a search of the home, the police called for an ambulance. Two of the children were taken by ambulance to the hospital. A DCS worker took the third child to the hospital by car. The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

Since the DCS removed the children from home, the couple has not seen their children. They were supposed to meet with social workers, but the couple said DCS canceled the appointment.

Police say that there have been no criminal charges filed in the case. However, the investigation is still on-going.

Sarah and Brooks told multiple agencies that their children are not vaccinated, but they do not believe their vaccination status has anything to do with this case.

This story highlights the fact that misinformation spreads quickly on Facebook. People took a status update at face value. They shared the status all over social media and created a frenzy based on unsubstantiated claims. Anti-vaxxers used the story to further their narrative that DCS medically kidnaps children. Additionally, they fed into conspiracy theorists that believe social service workers capture and sell children into foster care.

Absolutely all of their fears were completely unfounded. DCS was forced to remove the child because the parents failed to take the child to the hospital. Heder’s fever was extraordinarily high and indicative of a bacterial infection. Instead of following the doctor’s orders, the parents decided not to treat their son.

Anti-vaxxers consistently use stories like this to tarnish the reputations of doctors, government agencies, and hospitals. They never consider the fact that the parents in the case might be at fault.

This is an important reminder to be cautious of what you see online. Just because someone cries “medical kidnapping” doesn’t mean it’s real.

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#6. To: Deckard (#0)

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

There goes your "mention" bullshit out the window, Deckard.

The ND BELIEVED that Heder had meningitis.

BELIEVED, YOU ASSHOLE.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   20:07:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#6)

The ND BELIEVED that Heder had meningitis.

Based on what, exactly? The snitch who is a quack naturopath, someone who aided and abetted these anti-vaxxers until they turned snitch?

What you're doing is highlighting that even the opinion of a non-medical quack can be used by CPS/PD to be remove children from their parents.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-03   2:51:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Tooconservative (#33)

What you're doing is highlighting that even the opinion of a non-medical quack can be used by CPS/PD

Not only will CPS use information from that type of source, but they act upon ANONYMOUS sources on the 1-800 child abuse hot-line, millions of times a year. Most are bullshit, but if 3% are accurate... thousands of calls help the helpless, children.

Huge lawsuits, too. I remember a case where CPS failed to act upon several anonymous tips that a child was not being cared for properly by her drug using mommy (Dicktard loves them), and the huge local story broke news when she was discovered almost dead, a human skeleton.

It was actually a case where CPS just didn’t follow up and make sure the child was being fed... until the cops found the child that way during a drug raid of the house, months after the first 1-800 tip.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-03   8:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#35)

Maybe you should see some photos of the children, parents, home and some remarks from the parents.

Just because we don't like anti-vaxxers (and I don't) doesn't give us the right to disrupt their homes, kidnap their children and hold them incommunicado, even to the point of withholding information about their health status, the supposed justification for their removal from their parents.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-03   9:05:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland (#38)

Maybe you should see some photos of the children, parents, home and some remarks from the parents.
Why should I?
Just because we don't like anti-vaxxers …
By “we” I can only assume that you mean “we libertarians.” Right?
… (and I don't) …
Lots of people dislike different things.
I know the feeling you are expressing.
I have a very strong dislike for libertarians.
So ”dislike” is okay.
… doesn't give us the right to disrupt their homes …
Ah! Spoken like a true asshole Paultard libertarian who obediently follows the warped libertarian philosophy that people “should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others.”

Hea, hold on Hoss.

Wait just a damend minute!

The ER doctor who was not “quack naturopath” decided the kid, Heder, was sick enough that she/he admitted Heder to the hospital to treat his symptoms. I forget what he was diagnosed as having, and I won’t bother to look it up, but it was some type of infection.

So, it was stated by someone that the “naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded.” But “WE” will never admit that some “quack naturopath” concerns were not unfounded….will “WE?” Or that “the opinion of a non-medical quack” was used by “CPS/PD to remove a child from his parents” and admit him to the hospital where his infection was properly treated.

… kidnap …
Woah !!!

Don’t you DARE for one minute to try to use that word to try and harangue me with. You may have no respect for the law as I find most libertarians don’t. But I do. It was reported that DCS had an order for “temporary custody from a judge.” “My dear libertarian friend (stated with tongue in cheek) the children were not KIDNAPPED. Stop trying to BULLSHIT me.

Continuing on …

… kidnap their children and hold them incommunicado, even to the point of withholding information about their health status, the supposed justification for their removal from their parents.
Hey, you may believe the shit you read on the Internet because like Deckard, you read and remember what you want to believe. But I don’t. My non-libertarian philosophy is that “just because it is on the Internet doesn’t mean its true.” So, I will stop right HERE until you proved to me that “their children were held from them incommunicado, even to the point of withholding information about their health status.”

And please….please….don’t pull a Deckard and show a link to some yellow journalism article where “someone SAID something.” I don’t pay any attention to opinions or to hearsay information I receive from other people when I receive information they cannot adequately substantiate.

I courteously await your reply with proven facts when you have those.

But until you have proven facts, then I respectfully request that you not bother me.

For time is a valuable asset and I don’t want to waste any on a libertarian whiner.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-03   11:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Gatlin (#41)

For time is a valuable asset and I don’t want to waste any on a libertarian whiner.

You can hardly type fast enough to keep up with the "libertarian whiners". Post after post, day after day. Because, like, your time is so valuable.

Right.

You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-03   12:27:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Tooconservative, wrong link tater (#49)

You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."

Tater is still logged onto yukon's wrong link... lovethecocks.com

Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-03   13:20:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: hondo68 (#56)

lovethecocks.com

Only you would remember the name of the site.

Makes you suspicious.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-03   13:22:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: GrandIsland, hondo68 (#58)

Only you would remember the name of the site.

It sounded...off...to me. So I checked it via search engine.

It appears that it is lovethecock.com (singular).

Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-03   14:51:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Tooconservative (#60)

Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately

That makes me feel a little better.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-03   15:56:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: GrandIsland (#63)

That makes me feel a little better.

Because you followed the link, gayblade!

Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-03   16:06:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: hondo68, tater, GI (#64)

Does anyone know what happened to yukon? His revelation about the wrong link, quickly lead to the demise of LP.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-03   16:41:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeroo (#65)

[buckeroo #65] Does anyone know what happened to yukon? His revelation about the wrong link, quickly lead to the demise of LP.

At LP, Goldi got sick of him and told him he was "Puked on permanently," and closed his account.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=1#C1

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

The ONLY person to say things, reveal the truth, and not be politically correct.

RAW UNADULTERATED TRUTH.

Yet you restrict and censor me for doing the same.

yukon posted on 2012-12-01 16:31:58 ET [Locked] Trace

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=28#C28

#28. To: yukon (#1)

you restrict and censor me for doing the same.

Clearly you didn't read the terms of your probation.

You are to CEASE the attacks.

Cease the Filth.

And converse in a polite manner.

---------

On two seperate occastions, I was on a thread, where everyone was acting like adults having a good discussion, and BAM! there you were, unannounced, unmolested by anyone at all on that thread...

and you proceded to badmouth folks on the thread using very vulgar language.

I'm not tolerating that. I never tolerate unmitigated vile filth.

Clean up your act, or begone.

This is my final conversation with you on this issue.

I will not respond to you, or any further whining.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:07:50 ET [Locked] Trace

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#29. To: All (#28) (Edited)

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:19:38 ET [Locked] Trace

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#30. To: Yukon, Last Post (#29)

In spite of back to back probations for attacking others, calling them names, and spewing filth...

you've done it again - all over this thread - that is IMPORTANT to me.

I'm so TIRED of you, I could just PUKE.

So YUKON, you are Puked-on permanently.

I just can't take it any more.

So sorry, so sorry...but you brought this on yourself.

good bye

gave a good life.

your account is now closed on LP.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:20:34 ET [Locked] Trace

nolu chan  posted on  2019-05-24   22:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: nolu chan (#111)

an obvious hack

you fall for iT

dumber Than dumb

paTheTic

BorisY  posted on  2019-05-25   1:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: BorisY, A K A Stone, Tooconservative (#112)

BorisY #112

an obvious hack

you fall for iT

dumber Than dumb

paTheTic

Thank you for your thorough and documented research into this matter.

The computer illiterates who attempted to push the hack story in 2011 were reduced to a laughingstock. They demonstrated they did not know an ISP from an IPA, did not recognize an impossible IPA when it stared them in the face, but their hunt for the impossible IPA was fun to watch. Their boasts of being able to hack the passwords and not leave a trace were incinerated by the Neil/Pinguinite challenge to strut their stuff. They quickly changed their story yet again to claim that Goldi guessed a password fie yukon at LP and Gatlin guessed a password for Ibluafartsky at LF, and the evildoer must have done the same. While they claimed that the guess story was back up by PM between Gatlin and Yukon. However, when A K A Stone pressed on about this alleged PM, in Stone's words, Yukon clammed up [#329]. The story culminates with all the PM having been immediately destroyed.

Of course there was no way to verify the alleged Goldi/Gatlin password guesses, even if the PM had not been destroyed. No logon with the alleged guesses could be performed as the alleged dastardly hacker had already allegedly changed both passwords. Saying I guess the password for Iblufartsky was fartsky, and yukon declaring that to be correct is bullshit, not verification.

An early failed attempt was the use of a password cracker.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=196#C196

#196. To: Goldi-Lox (#193)

See!

I reged as WhiteSands , no space for a reason.

Apparently Anonymous has teamed with Ron Paul to swarm this site.

They don't have to hack to throw a password cracker at a log in.

WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-01 12:24:48 ET [Locked]

While it does not identify a hacker, computer generated logons by a password cracker occur at warp speed compared to keyboard entry. A batch of logon attempts performed faster than human ability may be identified by time stamps. Fail. No evidence of such a computer attack was found.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=198#C198

#198. To: Goldi-Lox (#193)

For those who are UNAWARE...some specific names on LP got hacked.

Another person WhiteSands, had a doppleganger, White Sands...(with a space).

So, LP can easily be hacked? A person can come here and access the passwords of others to pose as them at whim? That doesn't provide much comfort for security. I was under the impression that you had safe guards in place to ensure that poster accounts were secure.

Two different screen names, isn't hacking.

stretchedmind posted on 2011-04-01 12:26:51 ET [Locked]

There is that minor problem that admitting the hacker story admits a rather large, but unidentified, security hole. Neil/Pinguinite more than adequately addressed that.

Someone creating a new account with a handle very similar to that of an existing account is not hacking.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=199#C199

#199. To: stretchedmind (#198)

I believe one person had some people working constantly to guess his password.

They finally guessed it, and then signed in as him. This is something that no one, and no security systtem can protect against...so everyone should be sure that the password they use is something that can't be guessed by a stranger.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-04-01 12:30:46 ET [Locked]

In this early version, people plural were working constantly to guess yukon's password(s), and are assumed to have finally guessed it (or them in later versions), in minutes or on the first guess.

#484. To: A K A Stone (#482)

I will go back and answer the questions if you want me to ... no problem.

BTW ... during the excitement, I think I said that someone over at LP guessed yukon's password in a few minutes.

I forgot to tell you that I guessed Ibluafartsky's password at LF on the first guess. I have the email confirming that ... of course the doubters will say that email is a fake, but IDGAS what the doubters say.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 1:08:06 ET

That was reassuring.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=All&#C491

#491. To: A K A Stone, war, ALL (#485)

Stone, yukon said the best he remembers is that the exchange where I guessed his password on the first try was in a PM on LF. Yukon and I shared information by both email and by PM.

[...]

Stone, I don’t trust you not to read the PMs on file at LF … I believe that you do. I don’t think you are an honorable person and I believe you to be devious. Therefore, all PMs in both yukon’s file and my file were deleted immediately after reading to preclude you snooping into the files and reading them. That is why the PM where I guessed the password no longer exists. I remember the exchange and yukon remembers the exchange … and I don’t give a rat’s shit whether you believe me or not.

[...]

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-23 11:36:58 ET [Locked]

Well, that didn't last long.

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https://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=All&

Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 785930
Comments: 877

A thread with over three-quarters of a million views.

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https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33469&Disp=10#C10

#10. To: Abcdefg (#2)

He was Ibluafartsky also verman whatever after his coming out.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-26 20:08:21 ET

Supposedly, the related initial contacts between Gatlin and Ibluafartsky/Yukon were on LF via PM.

Also, supposedly, when Yukon created the Vermin account, he did not contact Stone about the multiple accounts because he had forgotten all about PM. Of course, he did not need a new Vermin Exterminator account to send or receive PM until March 29, 2011, the day Ibluafartsky started a thread saying he was gay. And then he activated Vermin Exterminator and failed to PM Stone because he "forgot" about PM.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19241&Disp=337#C337

#337. To: war (#285)

[...]

My explanation is as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF.

[...]

Tater posted on 2011-04-10 21:04:05 ET [Locked]

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=374#C374

#374. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, harrowup, ALL (#327) (Edited)

[...]

Now, would you like to make a wager. I am prepred to consider a wager that I can hack your account here on LF, steal your password and post an admission/confession that you are a homosexual. (You must not have changed your password after 4/15/11). In order to make the wager, I would need a signed agreement for permissible conditions from you, and I would need the same from Stone authorizing me to be a white hat hacker (one who breaks security for non-malicious reasons such as testing the security system … as Stone would be authorizing me to do). FYI: The “white hat” hacker is also called an “ethical hacker” … and I do want to forever remain ethical. You will probably want to skip right on by this paragraph because the minimum wager must be an extremely large amount (to be specified later) for me to take time to do it … and there would be certain mutually restrictive agreed conditions, plus the monies would be held in an escrow account.

[...]

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-16 20:13:17 ET

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http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=367#C367

#367. To: nolu chan, Robin (#301)

A hacker who could get into any yukon account in minutes wouldn't care about the slight possibility of a password change.

I've had very minimal net access for about the last month, so am late in responding.

There have been suggestions aired that my software has a vulnerability that allows hackers to determine passwords at will. If there is, I don't know what that is. For that matter, even though I have full access to the server hosting this site, I do not know how to determine anyone's PW (short of modifying the software to report it too me as people log in) as it is encoded in the data files and I don't have the means, at least as I sit here, to decode that data. And that's with access to the server hosting the site.

There is at least one vulnerability that I know of and it would be remedied by making the site encrypted (https vs http). But even that vulnerability would require some kind of wiretapping access to the data going between the server and user which is something the NSA or backbone ISPs would have. Individual hackers working from home wouldn't normally have that wiretapping access.

I'll go on record with this challenge: If there's a hacker out there who can determine passwords, I challenge him/her to change my PW.

Exceptions: #1) A brute force trial and error approach of having a computer attempt to long in millions of times with all kinds of PWs could eventually stumble upon the target's PW. #2) A victim who had a simple PW, like say using their screen name as a PW could be hacked as well just by someone trying obvious PWs.

I think those exceptions and wiretapping aside, it would be pretty tough to determine PWs.

Pinguinite posted on 2011-05-15 1:08:51 ET

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Thus ended the bullshit stories about being able to just hack on in and grab passwords and not leave a trace behind.

Of course, after the initial hacked and stolen link bullshit story was demolished, but before the last bullshit story, came an intermediate bullshit story, or two.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=19#C19

#19. To: calcon (#15)

deleted again

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49 ET

Deleted, but it lives on.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=28#C28

#28. To: calcon (#19) (Edited)

(Gatlin) The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

We have just witnessed the birth of a new cover story.

Let us all now join together to sing a rousing rendition of "Happy Birthday!"

EVERYBODY! "Happy birthday to youuuuuuuuuuuuuu ........

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-04-24 11:29:57 ET

Of course the gay link was deliberately posted, not to show that yukon was a homo, but to draw out posters like calcon.

As many as three quarters of a million views to a thread at LF attest to the entertainment value of the flailing bullshit stories that were thrown against the wall in a futile attempt to defend yukon. They came from far and near to see yukon crash and burn. They were not disappointed.

= = = = = = = = = =

Anyone who posts a dot decimal IPA containing "291" is not likely to be a master hacker. There was a string of "brilliant" poster comments about trying to track this IPA unsuccessfully. Much later, Gatlin was still trying to defend it as a valid IPA. He never seemed to address how he could shovel 291 into 8 bits of binary memory.

These would-be hackers look like incompetents who were unable to figure out WHY 95.154.230.291 was invalid.

#907.

To: ALL, yukon, Gatlin, 22Rifle, Internet sleuths (#906)

I'm posting the IP of the person who hacked Yukon's posting file.

95.154.230.253 password hacker (hacked yukon)

95.154.230.291

Maybe someone can find him/her. Isn't there some legal precident for filing a lawsuit for doing that? Remember someone hacked Palin's email...and I think the guy went to jail, or something bad happened to him.

Anyone Know?

Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-04-04 17:54:56 ET

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#911. To: Goldi-Lox (#907)

95.154.230.291 is not a valid IP address.

Retrieving DNS records for 95.154.230.291... Attempt to get a DNS server for 95.154.230.291 failed: 95.154.230.291 does not exist in the DNS

WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-04 18:04:09 ET

No value of 291 can exist in one byte of computer memory.

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#914. To: Goldi-Lox (#909)

95.154.230.291

A total dead end on the second ... I did a copy and paste, do I have the correct numbers?

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:05:09 ET

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#916. To: Goldi-Lox (#914)

95.154.230.291 is an invalid IP address

Got that back on the second try.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:08:45 ET

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Searched DNS records for 291. Check.

Did a copy and paste and retried to be sure. Check.

The group no awareness that 291 is mathematically impossible. One byte of computer memory contains eight bits, and that provides a number range from 0 to 255. That is 256, 28 possibilities, including the zero. 111111112 = 255. Can't get no mo'.

Master computer hackers strutting their stuff. The whole lot of the incompetent computer illiterates demonstrated for all to see that they did not even know what numbers were valid in an IPA (Internet Protocol Address). These were the experts who were lecturing. Binary numbers befuddled them. The Keystone Kops of computer hacking.

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=219#C219 [dead link/site, The Nest, TPF, The Peoples Forum]

#219. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm, Robin, The Talking Mouse, IDontThinkSo, _'+?@!, war (#218)

CRITIQUE OF TATER/GATLIN'S EXPLANATION

[...]

#914. To: Goldi-Lox (#909)

95.154.230.291

A total dead end on the second ... I did a copy and paste, do I have the correct numbers?

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:05:09 ET Reply Trace

No, Adrian Lamo wannabe white hat hacker, you do not have the right numbers. The right numbers range from 000-255.

[...]

nolu chan posted on 2011-04-17 15:21:07 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=486#C486

#486. To: harrowup (#485)

Easter Monday will be a good day for both LP & LF and a very nasty day for bucky and several of his cohorts,

You'll want to draw more than your 'curtains', Bobby.

While you're busy trying to scare the shit out of everyone Mr. Mighty Hacker, can you explain how you can get 291 out of 11111111.

Oh, and what precautions you've taken against being hacked yourself?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-04-23 1:30:25 ET

nolu chan  posted on  2019-05-26   17:17:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 113.

#114. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone (#113)

Certainly a series of worthy and well-researched posts.

Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more.

The Truthers, the Trump-haters, the cop-haters, the weirdos publishing their own promos for their crappy self-published wacko prophecy books (Barry Midyet), the bizarre cross-forum posts of fake-illiterates (Boris), and now the crowning achievement of LF free speech, the Flat Earthers, have so degraded the value of LF as a site worth posting to on a regular basis, that I have chosen to disregard LF as a forum that I want to post on.

So thanks for these posts. But I'll pass on doing much posting here at LF. Free speech shouldn't mean a forum wide-open for any kook that wanders in and wants to use LF as a platform for themselves at Stone's expense and regardless of how many people are driven away when wackos control the sidebar.

It would help IMO if Neil re-instituted the Biker Bar feature. While it was discontinued over at LP due to its tendency to bog down site response times when the database had grown to a certain size, that wouldn't be a problem at LF if some reasonable moderation was used. But paying attention to LF's content is the primary problem it has. You don't need a Biker Bar if you're willing to impose some hard and fast standards on the site as a whole. But that isn't going to happen either.

I've found other places to post. I suggest you do the same. The last thing you'll ever get at LF is a fair and meaty debate of the issues.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-06-07 09:05:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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