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Title: Chandler police remove kids from home after sick child not taken to hospital
Source: AZ Family
URL Source: https://www.azfamily.com/news/chand ... 9a-11e9-abf4-7fa4eaa39a0b.html
Published: Mar 2, 2019
Author: News Staff
Post Date: 2019-03-02 13:59:38 by Deckard
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Comments: 69

CHANDLER, AZ (3TV/CBS 5) - It's been almost three days since a Chandler couple last saw their children. It all began with a trip to the doctor because their toddler had a high fever. Now all three of their children are in the custody of the Department of Child Safety.

Police said the incident started on Feb. 25, when parents Sarah Beck and Brooks Bryce brought their 2-year-old son Heber to the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine because the child was suffering from a fever.

Beck says the doctor found Heber's temperature to be 105 degrees and instructed them to take him to the ER, mentioning a concern for meningitis.

Once in her car, his mother retook his temperature and found it was going down.

"He's acting normal. He's dancing with his sisters in his car seat. And I take his temperature and it's 102," said Beck.

So they went home. She says by then the fever had dropped even more.

"We love our children, we love them. If our children needed help, we would absolutely help them," said Beck. "I told the doctor that I'd bring my son back for her to check and make sure that his fever was lower, and she said she wouldn't see him, and I had to take him in."

The doctor, learning they had not gone to the ER, called DCS, and later that night, the family got a visit from Chandler police.

Officers went to the family's home to check the child's welfare, but no one answered the door, even though police could hear "someone coughing inside one of the bedrooms," according to the police report.

After several failed attempts to get someone to open the door, police called the boy's father.

Police said Bryce answered the phone but told police that his son's fever had broken and "he was fine." According to the police report, Bryce was "argumentative and refused to exit the residence to talk with officers or DCS investigators."

"Like we're holding our kids hostage or they're deathly ill or barely alive. He was perfectly fine. He was in my arms sleeping. As I was on the phone with the officer I took his temperature, it was 100 degrees. There's no reason to give up my kids because he has a temperature of 100 degrees and sleeping," said Bryce.

When those inside the house continued to refuse to open the door, police said, "The decision was made to force entry of the home for DCS in order to take custody of the child."

According to the police report, they made the decision to go inside the home because:

-"there was a present danger [to the child] that required immediate medical attention"

-"Brooks and Sarah refused to come outside and refused to let DCS check on the welfare of [the child]."

-"There was a court order signed by the judge giving DCS temporary custody of [the child] in order to get him medical treatment."

So, police forced open the door. According to the police statement: "The front door was breached and the family members were called out of the residence."

The family's security camera recorded the moment police kicked open the door.

Inside the residence, two additional children (aged 4 and 6) were located, and police say they were also suffering "similar symptoms to include vomiting," according to the police document.

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Inside the home, police said conditions were so cluttered and messy in the children's rooms that it was "difficult to walk in the rooms." One officer wrote in the police report, "There was clutter everywhere. The house was filled with items everywhere I looked."

The officer also said there were stains in the children's bedrooms and that children had told police they had vomited several times in their beds.

Police also said that inside the parents' room, "a shotgun was lying next to the bed, against the wall, and was not locked or secured."

"The clutter was laundry on our couch," said Bryce.

He says the children had been vomiting, but they were moved from their beds to sleep with their parents after messing their own beds.

As for the shotgun, he said, "it actually is inert. It does not work."

Two of the children were transported to the hospital by ambulance, while the third was transported by DCS. The 2-year-old was later admitted to the hospital, according to police.

Their parents have not heard from them since.

"I'm just beside myself. I just want my kids. I just want to know are they OK?" said Beck.

No charges were filed at the time. But police said detectives will follow up to determine if there are any criminal charges to pursue against the parents.


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#3. To: Deckard, nolu chan (#0)

Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder if there is more to the story.

Do you think the hospital called the cops?

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-02   14:54:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

The doctor, learning they had not gone to the ER, called DCS, and later that night, the family got a visit from Chandler police.

The Dr, Nanny State may have called ER, then called DCS.

How he found out that they didn't go to ER is unclear. Maybe the parents themselves told him, if he called to check up on the kid?

Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-02 15:10:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Sounds pretty messed up.
Sound petty much like Sarah Beck and Brooks Bryce messed up
I wonder if there is more to the story.
There always is when Deckard posts an article.

I don’t remember a time, or if, Deckard ever posted a story of this nature where he was not trying to defame and damage the good reputation of cops or authorities that there was not “more to the story” discovered later.

Can you?

Do you think the hospital called the cops?
It doesn’t matter if the doctor or the hospital called the cops. It is blatantly obvious from the testimony that the doctor felt the child was sick enough and had symptoms of meningitis at that time for him to INSTRUCT the parents to TAKE the child to the ER.

And they ignore him ...

I will have a follow up …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02 15:31:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone, Deckard, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#3)

Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder if there is more to the story.

Do you think the hospital called the cops? Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder if there is more to the story.

The doctor called the DCS. It would appear that the DCS called the cops.

"The doctor, learning they had not gone to the ER, called DCS, and later that night...."

There are a few curiosities.

Police said the incident started on Feb. 25, when parents Sarah Beck and Brooks Bryce brought their 2-year-old son Heber to the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine because the child was suffering from a fever.

Beck says the doctor found Heber's temperature to be 105 degrees and instructed them to take him to the ER, mentioning a concern for meningitis.

They were with a "doctor" at a college of medicine. The "doctor" did not make a medical diagnosis, he mentioned a concern. The "doctor" advised the parents to go to the ER, presumably another facility altogether (read on). Why did the "doctor" release the patient to the parents rather than have the emergency patient transported to the ER if there was a "present danger" requiring "immediate attention?"

In case you missed it....

the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine

[...]

Beck says the doctor found....

N.D., not to be confused with a Medical Doctor, M.D.

According to the police report, they made the decision to go inside the home because:

-"there was a present danger [to the child] that required immediate medical attention"

-"Brooks and Sarah refused to come outside and refused to let DCS check on the welfare of [the child]."

-"There was a court order signed by the judge giving DCS temporary custody of [the child] in order to get him medical treatment."

Who determined that there was a present danger to the child that required immediate attention?

What medical diagnosis was made, and treatment rendered, by the "doctor" at the college of naturopathic medicine?

Since when do residents inside their house have a duty to go outside to converse with police?

On what information and authority did a judge issue temporary custody to DCS, and when specifically?

https://www.scnm.edu/programs/doctor-of-naturopathic-medicine/scope-of-practice/

Arizona's scope of practice

The broadest scope of practice for naturopathic medicine in the United States is in Arizona, where naturopathic physicians (NDs also credentialed as NMDs) have increased scope beyond NDs in other US states. In Arizona NDs may perform many of the same activities performed by allopathic physicians, such as MDs or DOs. For instance, their formulary or list from which they may prescribe, includes not only vitamins and minerals, but also vaccines, antibiotics, oral contraceptives, anabolic steroids, and controlled substances such as morphine and cocaine. Additionally, the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration approved Arizona NDs to prescribe controlled substances from the formulary. This means NDs in Arizona are issued DEA numbers. Additionally, their scope includes IV therapy, injection therapy, minor surgery, physical medicine, botanical medicine and homeopathy. Finally, licensed NDs in Arizona may practice acupuncture as part of their scope of practice if they’ve completed 200 hours of acupuncture classroom and clinic coursework (included in SCNM's curriculum).

You will learn, practice and become skilled at using all of the modalities of naturopathic medicine at SCNM. This will make you a highly sought after physician no matter where you decide to practice. Once you graduate, your knowledge will empower you to pursue your dream career. If you choose to go into family practice, focus on certain conditions, or specialize in your favorite therapies, you’ll be prepared with the most broad and comprehensive education and training.

https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/arizona/az-laws/arizona_laws_32-1501

8. "Approved school of naturopathic medicine" or "school of naturopathic medicine" means a school or college determined by the board to have an educational program that meets standards prescribed by the council on naturopathic medical education, or its successor agency, and that offers a course of study that, on successful completion, results in the awarding of the degree of doctor of naturopathic medicine and whose course of study is either of the following:

(a) Accredited or a candidate for accreditation by an accrediting agency recognized by the United States secretary of education as a specialized accrediting agency for schools of naturopathic medicine or its successor.

(b) Accredited or a candidate for accreditation by an accrediting agency recognized by the council for higher education accreditation or its successor.

9. "Board" means the naturopathic physicians medical board.

[...]

23. "Natural substance" means a homeopathic, botanical, nutritional or other supplement that does not require a prescription pursuant to federal law before it is prescribed, dispensed or otherwise furnished to a patient and that is prescribed by a physician who is licensed pursuant to this chapter to enhance health, prevent disease or treat a medical condition diagnosed by the physician.

[...]

25. "Naturopathic medicine" means medicine as taught in approved schools of naturopathic medicine and in clinical, internship, preceptorship and postdoctoral training programs approved by the board and practiced by a recipient of a degree of doctor of naturopathic medicine licensed pursuant to this chapter.

[...]

28. "Practice of naturopathic medicine" means a medical system of diagnosing and treating diseases, injuries, ailments, infirmities and other conditions of the human mind and body, including by natural means, drugless methods, drugs, nonsurgical methods, devices, physical, electrical, hygienic and sanitary measures and all forms of physical agents and modalities.

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