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Title: Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police
Source: FromThe Trenches/FTP
URL Source: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport. ... s-were-abused-by-police/242258
Published: Feb 26, 2019
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2019-02-27 05:17:06 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6867
Comments: 143

Free Thought Project – by Matt Agorist

A shocking new report from the Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women paints a disturbing picture of law enforcement and their role in sex trafficking. The report found that instead of preventing child and adult sex trafficking, many police officers are participating in it.

The report is titled “Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,” which detailed the testimonials from multiple victims. One particularly disturbing part of the report was the fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization.  

“The corruption of members of the criminal justice system reported by the participants in the study was pervasive in their stories of being prostituted,” the report noted.

The report found that the average age of those being trafficked is just 14-years-old, showing how early the abuse began.

One of the victims interviewed, who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons explained that “the same people that are charging you for prostitution are the people turning around and buying it from you.”

Another participant in the study noted that police would even help to acquire the young girls drugs. The teenager was living in a drug house which had been busted by police and after the raid, the officer told the girl, “if you want pills, don’t mess with this little kid, you call me.”

Khara Jabola-Carolus, with the Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women, explained that the abuse was extensive and on all levels of the spectrum. “This ranged from cops asking for sexual favors to more coercive situations like I’ll let you go if you do X, Y, or Z for me.’  Bring customers after hours in exchange for cigarettes or gas money,” she explained.

When confronted with this information about the abuse of sex trafficking victims by police officers, Honolulu Police Chief Susan Ballard issued the following statement:

“I am deeply concerned and will continue to ask the Commission to provide additional information so that HPD can investigate. We respect the participants’ privacy and understand why they do not want to be identified. However, if they can provide us with when or where the activity occurred and a description of the officer, we will investigate to the fullest extent possible. HPD does not condone the behavior described in the study under any circumstances.”

While the idea that police officers are abusing victims of sex trafficking may seem outlandish to some, it should come as no surprise to those who’ve been paying attention, especially out of Hawaii.

As the Free Thought Project previously reported in 2014, Honolulu police officers urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations. For years, Hawaii allowed their cops to have sex with prostitutes and victims of human trafficking while at the same time arresting these women.

It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation. This was legal for law enforcement all the way up until 2018 when lawmakers had to get a bill passed to specifically outlaw the practice of having sex with victims of human trafficking.

Both the cops in Hawaii and in Michigan put up huge resistance to the outlawing of sex with human trafficking victims, claiming it was necessary to catch lawbreakers.

However, Bridgette Carr, a director of the Human Trafficking Clinic at the University of Michigan Law School, explained how cops used these laws to further exploit their victims.

“What I do know from my own clients is that people who either say they are cops, who are cops or who are impersonating cops, know about this exemption and threaten my clients with it sometimes,” she said.

Police officers using their power to exploit human trafficking victims is a common thread among many cases. On multiple occasions, the Free Thought Project has reported interviews of former child sex trafficking victims who’ve all noted that they had nowhere to go as police and high-level politicians all participated in the abuse.

In case after case, the Free Thought Project reports on horrifying instances of child sex rings that were allowed to go on for decades because politicians — including heads of states — policemen, clergy, and others were all in on the sick game.

Free Thought Project

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#102. To: GrandIsland (#99)

Yea ...

And this was another great job you did here this morning.

A Saturday morning successful kick-ass on Paultards is a wonderful way to get the weekend off to a fine start.

Catch you later ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Gatlin (#79)

articles from The Free Thought Project, Reason, Lew Rockwell

Sure, I post from those and a number of other alternative news sites. The corporate media always lies, isn't that the prevailing thought around these parts? My articles do elicit responses, and traffic - especially from the delusional authority fetishists of the canary clan.

Of course, one-dimensional posters and short-bus riders like you you would like it better if articles from FOX News were only allowed. That way you can maintain your Groupthink agenda.

Yeah - that's the ticket!!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo, Tater, GrandIsland (#101)

You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website.

When I enter the website I am logged off because of the structure of my browser. I just happened to see you bad mouthing me today and when logged in

Same here in Firefox.

This internet thing is still a mystery to Tater.

BTW, both he and FireIsland are well known for posting shit about people without putting their name in the To: box.

Sure sign of cowardice.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: buckeroo (#101)

You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website.

I understand that. I understand everything….perfectly well.

Quit groveling asshole. Get up off your knees and stop acting obsequiously in order to obtain forgiveness.

If you didn’t have me on bozo, then you were lying.

If you did have me on bozo and diligently read my posts while you were not signed in, then you are a hypocrite.

In either case, you are a repulsive Paultard with a deeply flawed character.

I’m done here …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Gatlin (#105)

I understand everything….perfectly well.

So why are you complaining to me?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Deckard (#104)

BTW, both he and FireIsland are well known for posting shit about people without putting their name in the To: box.

And the INTENTIONAL reason for doin that is …

Wait for it …

I decided there is no need to bother wasting my time to put your name in the “To” block since you have categorically stated that you ALWAYS read ALL posts I make.

You did post that and you know that you did in a way that is unambiguously explicit and direct?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Gatlin (#107)

And the INTENTIONAL reason for doin that is …

...cowardice.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Deckard (#108) (Edited)

...cowardice.

To paraphrase old Barry: “Extremism in sense of brevity is never cowardice.”

Now, I'm really finished here.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: buckeroo (#101)

I took you off BOZO to communicate with you to further understand your complaints.

Here you'll need this.

They don't make anything any stronger that I'm aware of so when you force feed him some be patient, it might take awhile for him to calm down and emote coherently.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2019-03-02   9:57:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Gatlin (#105)

buckeroo: You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website. When I enter the website I am logged off because of the structure of my browser. I just happened to see you bad mouthing me today and when logged in, I took you off BOZO to communicate with you to further understand your complaints.

Gatlin: I understand that. I understand everything….perfectly well.

Well... I will leave the door open for discussion for a few days since I don't want to take the time to involve any extraordinary key strokes to BOZO you again.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Gatlin (#102)

A Saturday morning successful kick-ass on Paultards is a wonderful way to get the weekend off to a fine start.

Catch you later ...

Later tater.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-02   10:03:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: A K A Stone (#58)

It’s considered good manners to ping those you’re talking about, but in employing a number of unwarranted and ugly insults, certain elements here have voided claims to such courtesies. I have even been called a Paultard (imagine that) without giving any hint of what my persuasions are. And although I like the Pauls, I am much more of a “Trumptard” than the other thing.

The catcalls here are not the end of the senselessness. There is some claim that I am some kind of bot or using a false identity. (“I long ago call him out when he used different screen names.” I have no idea what this person is talking about.) I do have an alternate ID that I’ve used once or twice long ago when I couldn’t remember my PW and temporarily opened a second account which I never use. I been here, BTW, way back when this was called Liberty Post, so I’m familiar with some of the characters – and some of the bullshit here.

What’s really the shit outside of the name calling is outright lying that’s employed when a poster sides, for the sake of argument, with a point antagonistic to some well known regulars here. These are mugs that hang out here a lot and who like to stir the pot. Why it’s tolerated escapes me. It is primitive beyond belief, and I know that I am not the only one who is the object of intentional, systematic and uncalled for harassment. These are nothing but BOLSHIE tactics, and they might be funny in a frat boy sort of way if they weren’t so corrosive of the purposes of the forum.

So, just so you know. I give a fuck, and I will post here 361, 362, 363, 364, 365 days and on a leap year 366 day – or not at all – if it suits me. Or Stone can toss me, if that’s what he chooses to do.

randge  posted on  2019-03-02   15:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: randge, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#113)

So, just so you know. I give a fuck, and I will post here 361, 362, 363, 364, 365 days and on a leap year 366 day – or not at all – if it suits me.

Be very careful about how you phrase your English sentence structure; both tater and GI believe you are one of my sockpuppets.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   15:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeroo (#114)

Oh, so sorry.

Never begin a sentence with a coordinating conjunction.

My bad, bucky.

randge  posted on  2019-03-02   15:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: randge, Gatlin, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#115)

My bad,

You have nothing to be sorry about. However, there are others that need to be brought to task about their charges concerning sockpuppets. Both GI and tater have too much time on their hands creating make believe BS as they collect their social security checks living in absolute squalor in some slum.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   15:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: randge (#113)

It’s considered good manners to ping those you’re talking about

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”... even if you post 3 times a year with this ID. You a Dicktard can share a safe space together, since both you pussies cry over not being pinged.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   16:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: GrandIsland, randge, Deckard (#117)

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”... even if you post 3 times a year with this ID. You a Dicktard can share a safe space together, since both you pussies cry over not being pinged.

You have a problem, officer. You drink too much when making wild ass claims on the Internet.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: randge (#113)

… certain elements here have voided claims to such courtesies …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   17:22:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: GrandIsland (#117)

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”...

No one claimed it is a constitutional right - it's a matter of courtesy, which we all know that in your view is a sign of weakness.

To me and other rational folks, your views on courtesy, empathy, caring are those of a borderline sociopath.

But I do see a glimmer of humor in your post - someone like you attempting to lecture others on "constitutional rights".

Funny stuff there.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   17:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: buckeroo (#118)

I most likely drink less (alcoholic beverages) than you, shit breath.

However, now that you mention it, I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Deckard (#120)

Insanity posts by gatlin an grandisland today.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Deckard (#120)

it's a matter of courtesy, which we all know that in your view is a sign of weakness.

You happen to be correct. Giving anyone “courtesy” that isn’t a family, friend, higher rank... or previously earned it, IS A WEAKNESS. It’s kinda like affirmative action. When you act in a way that deserves “courtesy”, bitch, and you’ve EARNED IT... I’ll extent that towards you. Like I do for Stone or Gat.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: All (#122)

I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#121) (Edited)

I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

The UFC Now Supports Gay Rights a Lot More Than the NFL

Two openly gay fighters to square off for title at UFC 224 in historic first

Computer Hope

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   17:37:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: buckeroo (#124)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

I’m currently undefeated, in any physical altercation... and though I’ve been injured arresting resisting subject(s), I’ve never lost.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: GrandIsland (#126)

You just SHOUT Bullshit, all the time.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: buckeroo (#127)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

Why the lol?

From what I have read and then posted on this forum, it damned sure well is likely in Belize.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   17:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Gatlin (#128)

Belize

= a 3rd world shithole. Populated by shitholians.

Jungle taco bunnies & ex-American traitors.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Gatlin (#128)

Why the lol?

Whats life about in Scottsdale Arizona riding round in a 1980 Winnebago?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   18:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: buckeroo, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#122)

Insanity posts by gatlin an grandisland today.

Stop the insanity!

Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

Study finds that 100% of the study participants reported using drugs, with average age of first introduction at 12.7 years old.

Study finds that the average age of first sex trafficking experience was 14.7 years old, two years after average age of being a doper, establishing a direct relationship between becoming a doper and subsequently becoming a sex worker.

Study finds that that 95.5% reported running away before they were 18, subsequent to becoming a doper, establishing a direct relationship between being a doper and engaging in stupid and/or reckless behavior.

A kid swallowed all the Scrabble letters. Now his poop shows more intelligence than a libertarian.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-03-02   18:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: nolu chan (#131)

Amen ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   18:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: nolu chan (#131) (Edited)

Study finds that...

Study finds that... Paultards are morons.

Thanks for educating the idiots... or pointing out their YELLA, continuous... agitate propaganda.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   19:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Deckard (#75)

The drug warriors here would call for an immediate ban on such beer.

If the beer companies get a sniff of how much money they can make off T-beer (THC beer), Katie bar the door. Obviously, they are well-positioned to create a yeast-based THC beer market.

The drug warriors won't be able to do much more than mutter.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-02   19:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: GrandIsland, tater (#126)

I’m currently undefeated,

I’ve never lost.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-02   20:13:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: GrandIsland (#77)

posting here with your anarchist asshole behaviors.

Fist off queerbait - the only asshole behaviors are provided by Gatslime and FireIsland, you foul-mouthed, ignorant neanderthal.

Secondly:

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I’m just hanging around for each of you to kick the geriatric bucket. Stinky is next.

Attaboy!! Stay classy freak-show.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-03   1:59:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, hondo68 (#126)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

I’m currently undefeated, in any physical altercation... and though I’ve been injured arresting resisting subject(s), I’ve never lost.

Behold, the Internet Tough Guy. Also known as a Keyboard Warrior or "Donga", he talks big shit online, and doesn't afraid of anything. Always male (for there are no girls on the internet). As he will thoroughly explain to you, he is respected and feared by ALL; no way he's skittish to casually throw around ep1c insultz and one-lieners like "go fuck yourself," or "u aint done sucking my dick."

He swears a lot just to show how hardcore he is. God help you if you even dare defy him by delivering some sort of retort when he says something to you, or practicing logic on his userpage, or even reading whatever he posted and writing replies of disagreement (or even agreeing responses, in some cases) relating exactly to what you just read ... No, you can't do that. No. No.

You don't even know him or what he's about. Internet Tough Guy isn't someone you should mess with, ever. That's right, you cross the line and he will come to your house and fuck you up so bad and rape you so hard and kill you so god damn dead OH SHIT. You must have pissed yourself by now from these horrific threats of bodily harm. Because if someone threatens you online, that's it. Game over man. Game over! You are d-e-a-d, DEAD!

Actually, IRL, Internet Tough Guy, there? He's a total fag or a basement-dweller, with a high chance of being a redneck and/or skinhead. Sometimes, the Internet Tough Guy will actually be somewhat "tough." However, this makes him about four times more of a total fag. The sad reality is that these people are a concentrated form of noob, not one of whom can grasp the concept that they obviously are never actually going to be able to make good on their intimidating remarks, or that their low-IQ ramblings do not impress the Internet nor physically affect people on it in any way.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-03   2:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Gatlin, nolu chan, randge, GrandIsland (#40)

New York, NY — It has been over a year since then 18-year-old Anna Chambers accused two on-duty NYPD officers of raping her in the back of a police van on the night of September 15th, 2017. As emphatically as she claims she was raped and did not consent to having sex with two police officers, she asserts not only have the police continued to attempt to intimidate her but the very justice system she looked to for help was set up to help the alleged rapists. Now, her claims have been proven correct.

Both of the officers, Eddie Martins and Richard Hall had faced up to 25 years in prison on the original rape and kidnapping charges, But this week, they had all those charges dropped. Because the system is set up in a way to protect predator police officers, the charges have been reduced to bribery and official misconduct. They have both since been released on their own recognizance.

“It’s just outrageous,” said Chambers’ lawyer, Michael David. “It was a clear-cut case. She was kidnapped. There was DNA evidence,” he said.

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

Both officers kidnapped Chambers in 2017 for allegedly possessing marijuana. The cops conveniently let all of her friends go, and kept only the tiny teen girl.

As TFTP reported, Chambers used social media to voice her outcry for justice. She stated she was never actually arrested, just dropped off near the police station after she says Hall and Martins had their way with her, both men raping her while she was still in handcuffs.

The law cops were using to protect themselves from Anna’s testimony happens to exist in 34 other states as well where police officers can claim sex with someone they have taken into custody was consensual. Buzzfeed News described the previous situation in New York:

It was one of 35 states where armed law enforcement officers can evade sexual assault charges by claiming that such an encounter — from groping to intercourse — was consensual.

The fact that this was legal at all speaks to the nature of the sadistic above the law attitudes of police officers.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-08   5:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Deckard (#138)

You posted this article on 02/27 tititled:

Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

We then had a few exchanges before I posted this to you.

Deckard: Strange indeed - as in most other aspects, cops are above the laws they are sworn to uphold.

Gatlin: Above which law in the case here where randge is referring to for your response:

Deckard:It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.

Gatlin: Please cite the specific law cops are above here.

Think carefully now, Deckard – think very carefully. And slowly move your finger under each word as you again read:

Gatlin: Above which law in the case here where randge is referring to for your response:

Gatlin: Please cite the specific law cops are above here.

Let’s stop for you to realize what “here” means.

Here is a adverb. It means “in or at this place.” It also means “NOW.” And it also means “to this place.”

Assuming that you are able to comprehend this, then you should without question understand the question I asked of you. You did not. So, please permit me help you. The “HERE” to both of us meant the article you posted titled: Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

Now, please explain to me and so everyone can also see, why you showed complete ignorance by coming back to a article posted last month where we were discussing that case [“here”] and now you have you try to BULLSHIT me by posting something from an ENTIRLY different article.

Explain, please …

Can you ever – EVER – get anything straight in your life?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-08   13:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Deckard (#138)

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

I almost lost my coffee reading this. When legislatures are brought so low in stooping to this level in curbing sordid conduct, you know that everything is going downhill.

It is a bad, bad state of affairs. Things seem to be getting more dangerous all the time, and I meet more and more folk that have recently been victims of crime - that includes people that I've known a long time.

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.

randge  posted on  2019-03-10   14:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: randge (#140)

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case. I almost lost my coffee reading this. When legislatures are brought so low in stooping to this level in curbing sordid conduct, you know that everything is going downhill.

It is a bad, bad state of affairs. Things seem to be getting more dangerous all the time, and I meet more and more folk that have recently been victims of crime - that includes people that I've known a long time.

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.

This situational post is a well-conceived one, and you correctly described it with spirit.

I agree entirely with your assessment and especially with your statement in the closing sentence – which I will repeat for emphasis:

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.
Yes, Americans do depend more and more on LE to defend us, but I contend it is not the data we should be concerned with. it is those – folks like Deckard and publications like TFTP just to name a few – who twist that data and situations to dupe gullible people like Stoner and make it appear that LE is failing. It seems they have a “dark agenda” to destroy America for some unstated reason and they are starting with our LE. Their effort to destroy America is strong. Their agenda and the Democratic Party’s agenda will destroy America if those agendas are allowed to succeed. It would be no surprise to find both being funded from the same central source. The open-ended question that remains unaddressed and unanswered is – WHY are they undertaking to do this?

A headline in St. Louis Post-Dispatch was frightening by any standard: "Bloody St. Louis sees 7 killings; 3 arrests." The piece went on to detail six shootings over a 13-hour stretch that killed seven people, including a single mother of two and a hotel night manager.

But just as it's never pointed out that thousands of aircraft landed safely on the day of a plane crash, a little perspective can place this tragedy in some context. Violent crime in St. Louis peaked in 1993, and in 2013, the last year for which data is available, the violent crime rate was lower than it was in 1985.

Today, the national crime rate is about half of what it was at its height in 1991. Violent crime has fallen by 51 percent since 1991, and property crime by 43 percent. In 2013 the violent crime rate was the lowest since 1970. And this holds true for unreported crimes as well. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, since 1993 the rate of violent crime has declined from 79.8 to 23.2 victimizations per 1,000 people. Americans who lived through the 1960s and 1970s remember the fear associated with a real surge in violent crime. In fact, the violent crime rate increased by 126 percent between 1960 and 1970, and by 64 percent between 1970 and 1980. The Brennan Center recently issued a report examining 14 theories for why crime declined in the U.S. so dramatically since the early 1990s. According to our empirical analysis, the greatest contributing factors in the crime drop were aging population, changes in income, and decreased alcohol consumption.

Despite not knowing exactly why crime declined so dramatically, it appears that many Americans are not even aware that it did.

One would think that with the dramatic drop in crime, America's communities would be reveling in the streets as though it were Mardi Gras, or at least talking about how much safer they feel walking around their neighborhoods as adults than they felt walking the streets as teenagers. But decades of Gallup polls indicate otherwise.

According to a Gallup poll from November 2014, despite dramatic declines in the nation's violent crime rate, a majority of Americans say "there is more crime in the U.S. than there was a year ago," which reflects a long-term Gallup trend. Currently, 63 percent of Americans believe crime is up over last year. The reality, again, is different. Crime statistics released by the FBI also in November 2014 revealed that the estimated number of violent crimes in 2013 decreased by 4.4 percent when compared with 2012 figures, and the estimated number of property crimes decreased by 4.1 percent.

Government statistics show that, except for some small blips, serious crime has decreased almost every year from 1994 through 2013. For over a decade Gallup has found that the majority of Americans polled believe crime is up, contrary to the fact that crime rates have plummeted in almost every small and large city since the 1990s. This is not to say that all cities and areas are experiencing decreases in violent crime year after year, but the overall rate of violent crime is significantly lower than historic levels.

We can gauge public perception of crime in other ways as well. In the figure below we can see the trends in the homicide rate, as well as the number of mentions of "murder" or "homicide" in New York City's and St. Louis' major newspaper headlines.

In New York City, for example, homicides are at an all-time low. The homicide rate per 100,000 people was 4 in 2013, compared with 31 in 1990. Headline mentions of murder in The New York Times per year have bounced around a lot but don't show the same steady, downward trend as homicides themselves. There were 129 mentions of "homicide" or "murder" in the Times' headlines in 1990, when the murder rate was at a historical high. There were 135 in 2013.

In St. Louis homicides are down from their early-1990s peak, but the trend has been flat. The city hasn't seen New York's dramatic decline, but crime is still down significantly since the 1990s. The homicide rate in 2013 in St. Louis was 38, compared with 45 in 1990. Headline mentions of murder in the St. Louis Post- Dispatch have declined markedly, however. Unlike in New York, murder headlines have declined even more quickly than the homicide rate. In the Post-Dispatch headlines, mentions of "murder" or "homicide" have dipped from 232 in 1990 to just 67 in 2013. Yet despite the drop in headlines mentioning murder, the gruesomeness has not gone away. Case in point: A headline in the St. Louis Dispatch on Dec. 21, 2013, read, "Missing Alton woman was slain and dismembered; 2 men charged with murder," and a Nov. 14, 2013, headline in the same newspaper read, "St. Louis man convicted of stabbing grandmother to death."

It seems that what the data shows is that despite decreasing murder rates and decreasing attention (at least in some newspapers), the public still believes crime is rampant. This indicates that the public still hasn't recovered from the years of the crime surge, or, perhaps more accurately, that the sensationalist coverage of isolated crimes has contributed to the public misperception that crime is increasing.

As with the Gallup polls data, the narrative of violent crime -- at least in the popular press -- doesn't have much to do with the crime reality. Crime across the nation is at an all-time low. We need to recognize that and embrace effective policies to keep it even lower. Just as with the case of airplane crashes, the public may see the extraordinary event as representative of the norm when it is not.

America's Faulty Perception of Crime Rates.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-10   15:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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