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Title: Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police
Source: FromThe Trenches/FTP
URL Source: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport. ... s-were-abused-by-police/242258
Published: Feb 26, 2019
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2019-02-27 05:17:06 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4850
Comments: 143

Free Thought Project – by Matt Agorist

A shocking new report from the Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women paints a disturbing picture of law enforcement and their role in sex trafficking. The report found that instead of preventing child and adult sex trafficking, many police officers are participating in it.

The report is titled “Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,” which detailed the testimonials from multiple victims. One particularly disturbing part of the report was the fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization.  

“The corruption of members of the criminal justice system reported by the participants in the study was pervasive in their stories of being prostituted,” the report noted.

The report found that the average age of those being trafficked is just 14-years-old, showing how early the abuse began.

One of the victims interviewed, who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons explained that “the same people that are charging you for prostitution are the people turning around and buying it from you.”

Another participant in the study noted that police would even help to acquire the young girls drugs. The teenager was living in a drug house which had been busted by police and after the raid, the officer told the girl, “if you want pills, don’t mess with this little kid, you call me.”

Khara Jabola-Carolus, with the Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women, explained that the abuse was extensive and on all levels of the spectrum. “This ranged from cops asking for sexual favors to more coercive situations like I’ll let you go if you do X, Y, or Z for me.’  Bring customers after hours in exchange for cigarettes or gas money,” she explained.

When confronted with this information about the abuse of sex trafficking victims by police officers, Honolulu Police Chief Susan Ballard issued the following statement:

“I am deeply concerned and will continue to ask the Commission to provide additional information so that HPD can investigate. We respect the participants’ privacy and understand why they do not want to be identified. However, if they can provide us with when or where the activity occurred and a description of the officer, we will investigate to the fullest extent possible. HPD does not condone the behavior described in the study under any circumstances.”

While the idea that police officers are abusing victims of sex trafficking may seem outlandish to some, it should come as no surprise to those who’ve been paying attention, especially out of Hawaii.

As the Free Thought Project previously reported in 2014, Honolulu police officers urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations. For years, Hawaii allowed their cops to have sex with prostitutes and victims of human trafficking while at the same time arresting these women.

It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation. This was legal for law enforcement all the way up until 2018 when lawmakers had to get a bill passed to specifically outlaw the practice of having sex with victims of human trafficking.

Both the cops in Hawaii and in Michigan put up huge resistance to the outlawing of sex with human trafficking victims, claiming it was necessary to catch lawbreakers.

However, Bridgette Carr, a director of the Human Trafficking Clinic at the University of Michigan Law School, explained how cops used these laws to further exploit their victims.

“What I do know from my own clients is that people who either say they are cops, who are cops or who are impersonating cops, know about this exemption and threaten my clients with it sometimes,” she said.

Police officers using their power to exploit human trafficking victims is a common thread among many cases. On multiple occasions, the Free Thought Project has reported interviews of former child sex trafficking victims who’ve all noted that they had nowhere to go as police and high-level politicians all participated in the abuse.

In case after case, the Free Thought Project reports on horrifying instances of child sex rings that were allowed to go on for decades because politicians — including heads of states — policemen, clergy, and others were all in on the sick game.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Khara Jabola-Carolus

Khara Tapay Jabola-Carolus ‪ᜎᜊᜈ᜔ ᜃᜊᜊᜁᜑᜈ᜔ ᜀᜊᜈᜆᜒ | ‪anti-imperialist filipina feminist | there’s no sacrifice we can make that’s too great to retrieve what we've lost‬

A militant abortionist man hating cunt... and Bernie Sanders supporter.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-27   5:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)

The report is titled “Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,” which detailed the testimonials from multiple victims. One particularly disturbing part of the report was the fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization.  

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-27   5:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

almost half of all the victims interviewed

List their names, please. Smollett, Ford... who?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-27   5:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#2)

One particularly disturbing part of the report was the fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization.
There is no God Damned way in Hell I am every going to believe this deceitful disinformation and gross distortion without proof positive being shown. Can you furnish that?

Deckard, you really need to recognize that you are so obsessed with what you see as injustices that it is all you can think of and post about. Your extremity and urge for defamation have become a psychosis.

You have crossed of the line of rationality with your irrational statements. Post-Traumatic Embitterment Disorder is recognized as a mental illness. Dr Michael Linden, a Germany psychiatrist, came up with that name and says people with this disorder are angry, pessimistic, aggressive, hopeless haters intent on revenge. He went on to say that an estimated one to two per cent of the population suffers this all-consuming bitterness, and says "they are almost treatment resistant. Deckard, you have definitely become a one percenter.

Stone, may I please suggest you remove this maliciously unsubstantiated and irrational charge posted here by Deckard. Thank you.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-27   7:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4) (Edited)

Stone, may I please suggest you remove this maliciously unsubstantiated and irrational charge posted here by Deckard. Thank you.

lol... Dicktard and Hondope have been going off the rails more and more... as Trump causes a militant Paultards true hippie colors to shine bright.

This joint is like snowflake central. Haaaa

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-27   8:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#4)

deceitful disinformation

Here is a link to the report -

https://humanservices.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Executive-Summary- Part-II-Sex-Trafficking-in-Hawaii-.pdf

Enjoy!

Jameson  posted on  2019-02-27   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#4)

There is no God Damned way in Hell I am every going to believe this deceitful disinformation and gross distortion without proof positive being shown. Can you furnish that?

 “Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,” 

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-27   8:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#5)

I am somewhat surprised that Stone allows them to continue.

But as you have said many times, and I of course agree, it’s his site.

So, C'est la vie – That’s life.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-27   8:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#4)

Dr Michael Linden, a Germany psychiatrist, came up with that name and says people with this disorder are angry, pessimistic, aggressive, hopeless haters...

Sounds like many cops these days.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-27   8:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jameson (#6)

Here is a link to the report -

https://humanservices.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Executive-Summary- Part-II-Sex-Trafficking-in-Hawaii-.pdf

Enjoy!

Good luck getting a rational response from the posters here who are stricken with obsessive authority fetish.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-27   8:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#6)

We're sorry, we couldn't find the page you were looking for. Use the search below to find what you were looking for.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-02-27   8:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jameson (#6)

Here is a link to the report -

[….]

Enjoy!

I appreciate that.

However, I fear reading it since I long ago decided that reading the “litany” of spam links supplied by Deckard is a total waste of time and I quit reading any of them.

I think that you obviously have read the report judging from your response.

Therefore, I will ask you to please tell me: Did the report document an absolute fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization. And if so: What creditability do you give the source?

Thank you and I await your response.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-27   8:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#9) (Edited)

I don't see that.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-27   10:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#13)

I don't see that.

What a surprise!!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-27   10:40:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#0)

Its easy to claim but hard to back it up with facts. Not say there are not bad cops but not like at all 50% claim.

I just think this is more cop hating crap.

Im really starting to dislike Libertarian extremist a whole lot!!!! You might as well fight with the far left or just left these days that way we can just end all freedoms and become a real full fledge socialist state with only freedoms being granted by a same group of corrupt people. You know socialism, fascism and Monarchism sure seem no more than an Oligarchy system to me!

Justified  posted on  2019-02-27   11:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard, Jameson, Gatlin, Deckard (#7)

“Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,”

It seems the report focuses on only 22 women. Those are very small numbers when you consider that there must be considerably more victims. This small statistical sample would more fairly be described as anecdotal, not representative. It doesn't seem like a serious study to me.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-02-28   4:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#15)

I just think this is more cop hating crap.

No need to even think about it. It is, it definitely is more cop hating crap. That is his primary reason for being here. It is an obsession.

Im really starting to dislike Libertarian extremist a whole lot!!!!

Welcome aboard. I got there a long time ago. It was when the Paultards showed how rude and irresponsible they were during the “Ron Paul Revolution.” I even have to snicker as remember that “revolution.”

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   7:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#16) (Edited)

“Sex Trafficking in Hawaii: The Stories of Survivors,”

It seems the report focuses on only 22 women. Those are very small numbers when you consider that there must be considerably more victims. This small statistical sample would more fairly be described as anecdotal, not representative. It doesn't seem like a serious study to me.

Thank you for also recognizing this, for your enlightening objective response to this and for pinging me to your post to learn some things I did not know but fully expected.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   7:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#14)

I feel certain that you sometimes run across your old posts, read them again and feel totally embarrassed.

Why do you continue to make a complete ass of yourself?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   7:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#17) (Edited)

when the Paultards showed how rude and irresponsible they were during the “Ron Paul Revolution.”

You must be suffering from old-timer's amnesia.

The only assholes who were rude and irresponsible were you, Byteshredder, Harrowup, yukon, GrandIsland and others of your freedom hating ilk.

Posting trash from no-name blogs, posting insulting and sacrilegious images, acting like spoiled little children, attempting to equate Ron Paul supprters with terrorists...you and the other cretins were responsible for getting several articles pulled and posters banned with your outright lies.

It's sad really that you still suffer from Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome

The Paulophobe’s inability to follow the simplest of arguments that Ron Paul has articulated to substantiate his positions is rivaled only by his inability to resist casting one unfounded aspersion after the other against the twelve term Texas congressman.

Within no time, at the mere mention of Ron Paul’s name, the Paulophobe’s last vestiges of reason become forever lost in a mountainous pile of straw man fallacies, non sequiturs, and ad hominem attacks.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-28   7:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deckard (#0)

I am far from being a cop fanboy. Met too many of the butthole mama's boys to really be on "their side".

Having said that,I have a VERY hard time believing that crap about cops and children.

Do a lot of cops go after "Free" BJ's from hookers in exchange for not arresting them? I'd say most do this.

Do cops go after sex with children? MAYBE 1 percent of them,and the true number may not be that high.

There ARE lines normal people just don't cross,regardless of their occupation or hobbies.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-02-28   7:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#2)

One particularly disturbing part of the report was the fact that almost half of all the victims interviewed reported that police officers participated in their abuse and victimization.

Yeah,it's a kneejerk thing they do to try to get a reduced sentence. It's kinda like when the doc smacks your knee cap with the rubber hammer,and your foot jumps.

They are just playing the "Ise a VICTUM!" card and hoping it works.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-02-28   7:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#0)

It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.

I was not aware of that.

Strange, isn't it? The process of enforcing laws intended to uphold morality creates more immorality.

We got some of that in Houston - if you been reading the mail.

randge  posted on  2019-02-28   10:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#20)

You must be suffering from -

I suffer from nothing, Sonny.

I am neither an asshole Paultard nor a stupid irrational libertarian.

To paraphrase John Denver’s song: Thank God I’m a Normal Boy.

And you can take those links you try to find reasons to throw in and shove them up your ass.

I told you I don’t read them and if you think you anyone else does, I have news for you….THEY DON’T.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   10:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#24) (Edited)

And you can take those links you try to find reasons to throw in and shove them up your ass.

Oh my - is Tater having an emotional meltdown?

I was just pointing out the truth after you embarrassed yourself by posting disgusting lies.

I am neither an asshole Paultard nor a stupid irrational libertarian.

But you ARE an asshole, stupid and irrational.

With apparent selective memory.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-28   10:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: randge (#23)

police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.

Strange, isn't it? The process of enforcing laws intended to uphold morality creates more immorality.

Strange indeed - as in most other aspects, cops are above the laws they are sworn to uphold.

If you're not cop, you're little people.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-28   10:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard, nolu chan (#26)

Cops can’t have sex with prostitutes in Hawaii, lawmakers say
... and ...
Michigan has no exemption to excuse cops who slept with prostitute.

Is this corrected information correct and accurate?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   11:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#26)

I used to have breakfast in a little place where I'd chat with the Houston PD in the morning. They seemed like OK guys, but some incidents would make ya think like the Carnaby shooting years ago. My wife got a bullshit ticket a ways back in a speed trap in the city and I know these guys are not past making a fast buck. Crime's lower here than in many big US cities. Some say that it's as the criminally inclined here are plain afraid of HPD because the boys in blue don't GAF.

At the moment, Turner & Acevedo's department is in investigating itself for the homicide of city residents on a no-knock warrant during a raid that produced none of the evidence the undercover bust-in crew was looking for. Now the feds are opening up their own civil rights investigation. This is same FBI that let Hillary get away with compromising our national security, BTW. The FBI will only do what's good for the FBI, so no telling hw that will turnout.

This is also mthe same department that gets its intelligence & manhandling training done in a friendly foreign country. Heh heh.

I am glad that I live in the county. When I'm in the city, I drive like a saint. ; )

randge  posted on  2019-02-28   11:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#28)

At the moment, Turner & Acevedo's department is in investigating itself for the homicide of city residents on a no-knock warrant during a raid that produced none of the evidence the undercover bust-in crew was looking for.

We've had a few articles posted about that in the past few weeks since it happened. Reason did a great job uncovering the real story.

Unfortunately that happens far too often but don't expect the authority fetish posters here to admit that cops are ever wrong.

This is also the same department that gets its intelligence & manhandling training done in a friendly foreign country. Heh heh.

Yeah - I've found out that Israel has been training a lot of the cops in the USA.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-28   11:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard, randge (#29) (Edited)

Yeah - I've found out that Israel has been training a lot of the cops in the USA.

It's for your safety.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Tel Aviv Police Academy


Hondo68  posted on  2019-02-28   13:11:28 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#25)

Oh my - is Tater having an emotional meltdown?

I was just pointing out the truth after you embarrassed yourself by posting disgusting lies.

On my – is the Paultard on another lying session.

You don’t know what truth is, Paultard.

Is this what you posted and supported the truth:

It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.
Or is THIS the truth.?
I am neither an asshole Paultard nor a stupid irrational libertarian.
Look in the mirror.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   14:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#24)

if you think you anyone else does, I have news for you….THEY DON’T.

I read some of them, especially the ones that look the most pro-American and anti-Gatlin.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-02-28   14:32:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#27)

Then-Rep. Gary Glenn, R-Midland, and Sen. Judy Emmons, R-Sheridan, introduced House Bill 4355 and Senate Bill 275. (this story was updated January 14, 2019) Original post:

Michigan has a law on the books that grants the police immunity from prosecution if they’ve had sex with a prostitute during an investigation.

Michigan had a law on the books granting law enforcement immunity while in the course of their duties.

Public Act 195 of 2017 REMOVED the law enforcement exemption from prosecution which had been in effect under Michigan law.

https://www.michiganvotes.org/2017-SB-275

Record of votes and signing into law of Michigan 2017 Senate Bill 275: Ban police sex with prostitutes (Michigan Votes)

Public Act 195 of 2017

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(gllfeeka4e55h4t1f0qzjd5t))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2017-SB-0275

Record published by Michigan Legislature

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2017-2018/publicact/htm/2017-PA-0195.htm

Public Act 195 (html) [as enacted into law]

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2017-2018/publicact/pdf/2017-PA-0195.pdf

Public Act 195 (PDF) [as enacted into law]

https://humanservices.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Executive-Summary-Part-II-Sex-Trafficking-in-Hawaii-.pdf

Link to the Report, Executive Summary, Part II.

[Excerpt]

The empirical findings from this study included the following key findings:

  • All 22 participants were sex trafficked by a sex trafficker in Hawai»i.
  • 77.3% of the 22 participants were Native Hawaiian.

Childhood Experiences

  • 59.1% reported childhood physical abuse
  • 72.7% reported childhood sexual molestation and the average age of first molestation was 8.23 years old.
  • 59.1% reported childhood rape. The average age of first rape was 11.3 years old.
  • 50% reported childhood emotional abuse.
  • 72.7% reported school problems resulting in suspension or expulsion.
  • 40.9% were in special education school programs.
  • 81.8% reported a close family member in jail or prison.
  • 68.2% reported child welfare/child protective services involvement as a minor.
  • 63.6% were placed in foster care during their childhoods.
  • 21 (95.5%) participants reported having run away before they were age 18.
  • Of the 18 interviews, 77.8% of the participants were children under age 18 in school in Hawai»i when they were sex trafficked.

Drugs

  • 72.2% witnessed drug use in their homes as children.
  • 100% reported using drugs and the average age of first introduction to drugs was 12.7 years old.
  • 45.5% reported that a family member was involved in prostitution or sex trafficking.

COMMENT:

"All 22 participants"

"Of the 18 interviews"

The sampling size is too small to support broad, generalized conclusions.

Apparently, 4 of the 22 participants (18%) were not interviewed.

77.3% of the 22 participants were Native Hawaiian.

All but 6 participants were Native Hawaiian. The miniscule sample of 6 non-Native Hawaiians is too small to support broad, generalized conclusions about non-Native Hawaiians.

"100% reported using drugs and the average age of first introduction to drugs was 12.7 years old."

nolu chan  posted on  2019-02-28   17:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nolu chan (#33)

"All 22 participants"

WOW... no wonder rabid feminist libtards and Dicktard feel there’s an epidemic going on. A whole 22 people.

Dicktard will jump at any chance to propagate hate towards cops... even side with or post liberally written slanted articles.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-28   17:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nolu chan (#33) (Edited)

All 22 participants"

"Of the 18 interviews"

The sampling size is too small to support broad, generalized conclusions.

Apparently, 4 of the 22 participants (18%) were not interviewed.

77.3% of the 22 participants were Native Hawaiian.

All but 6 participants were Native Hawaiian. The miniscule sample of 6 non-Native Hawaiians is too small to support broad, generalized conclusions about non-Native Hawaiians.

So...native Hawaiians like becoming child prostitutes 2-3 times more than non-Hawaiians?

The numbers are ridiculously small to draw any real conclusions.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-02-28   18:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Tooconservative, Hawaii 5 y0, BorisY, child hooker (#35)

Hawaiians like becoming child prostitutes 2-3 times more than non-Hawaiians?

Boris started very young.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-02-28   18:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nolu chan, Deckard, randge (#33) (Edited)

Thank you for your definitive response.

So, please help me out here so that I may thoroughly understand this.

Now if Michigan has no law granting law enforcement immunity and Hawaii has no such law, then this means that Deckard has once again plastered this forum with yet another bullshit article filled with slanted information [aka lies].

And all he succeeded in doing was duping the shit out of randge

Do I have that right or am I mistaken somewhere?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   19:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#34)

Dicktard will jump at any chance to propagate hate towards cops... even side with or post liberally written slanted articles.

How can one person harbor so much despise and hold so much hatred?

Never mind trying to answer. It is a rhetorical question.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   19:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#37)

And all he succeeded in doing was duping the shit out of randge

Do I have that right or am I mistaken somewhere?

It may not be a matter of being duped, rather a case of perhaps too readily accepting an what I'd hitherto deemed an unlikely proposition.

I'd always assumed that in actually employing a prostitute in gathering evidence for prosecution, LE would be guilty of entrapment, thereby spoiling a case.

Deckard surprised me with his assertions about MI & HI, but he stated them in a sincere way, and I took them at face value.

All this is well outside my bailiwick, but it didn't take me long to find an MSM article like the one below. It's a little dated, but it's from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. The freakin' world today is full of the unexpected. Ya never know.

Hawaii police officers allowed to have sex with prostitutes
Local Updated March 22, 2014
By Katherine Biek

It's what many are calling the strangest job perk ever: as part of their investigations, Hawaii police officers are allowed by law to have sex with prostitutes before they arrest them.

Prostitution is illegal in Hawaii, and at a hearing on Friday, state lawmakers said allowing officers to be exempt only further plays into the issue of human trafficking and abuse. (Via KHON) SEN CLAYTON HEE: "Police are just going to have to be more creative than relying on special treatment when arresting prostitutes. It's really mind-boggling." (Via KGMB)

Fox News reports the executive director of Prostitution Research and Education, which is based in San Francisco, says police abuse and prostitution go hand in hand. "... in places without such police protections 'women who have escaped prostitution' commonly report being coerced into giving police sexual favors to keep from being arrested or harassed."

www.ajc.com/news/hawaii-p...rs-allowed-have-sex-with- prostitutes/DpmkFo8ooYW04jVlp6vlnO/

randge  posted on  2019-02-28   19:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#26)

Strange indeed - as in most other aspects, cops are above the laws they are sworn to uphold.
Above which law in the case here where randge is referring to for your response:
It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.
Please cite the specific law cops are above here.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   20:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#39)

Deckard surprised me with his assertions about MI & HI …
I will admit that perhaps “duped” was a wrong characterization for me to use and maybe “misled” would have been a better adjective.

“Forewarned is forearmed” since prior knowledge of possible dangers or problems gives one a tactical advantage.

I trust that you now have such prior knowledge and you should NEVER again let Deckard surprise you with his assertions and the misinformation in the articles he posts.

The first line of defense against being misled by Deckard is to assume that he is categorically wrong about everything he says, does and that he intentionally posts articles with misleading information and lies to promote his cop hating agenda.

You take care, ya hear.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   20:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: randge (#39)

All this is well outside my bailiwick, but it didn't take me long to find an MSM article like the one below. It's a little dated, but it's from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. The freakin' world today is full of the unexpected. Ya never know.

Hawaii police officers allowed to have sex with prostitutes
Local Updated March 22, 2014
By Katherine Biek
[….]

Dated March 22, 2014 ???

I fail to understand why you are posting an article four years old about a law that has since been rescinded and furnishing a link to it.

This is something only Deckard would do or Bucky would again do by using one of the many additional screen names he has stashed away here to once again support Deckard.

I hope you are not letting their bad habits rub off on you …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   20:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin (#42)

This is something only Deckard would do or Bucky would again do by using one of the many additional screen names he has stashed away here to once again support Deckard.

I hope you are not letting their bad habits rub off on you …

You need to pull your dress down your hypocrisy is showing again.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2019-02-28   20:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Gatlin (#42)

You ever notice when one of the common Paultards get OWNED, some hardly used ID comes out of the woodwork and attempts to defend those assholes, in an indirect, I have no dog in the fight, way.

randge is most likely one of the Paultard assholes.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-28   20:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin, Deckard, randge (#37)

Now if Michigan has no law granting law enforcement immunity and Hawaii has no such law, then this means that Deckard has once again plastered this forum with yet another bullshit article filled with slanted information [aka lies].

As for characterizing the article, it is by Matt Agorist and from The Free Thought Project. The report cited the article provides little support for the exaggerated propaganda of the article.

The article did not state the exemption laws of Hawaii or Michigan were still in effect.

From the thread article:

As the Free Thought Project previously reported in 2014, Honolulu police officers urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations. For years, Hawaii allowed their cops to have sex with prostitutes and victims of human trafficking while at the same time arresting these women.

It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation. This was legal for law enforcement all the way up until 2018 when lawmakers had to get a bill passed to specifically outlaw the practice of having sex with victims of human trafficking.

The thread article does indicate that the prosecution exemption only existed until 2018. The Michigan law was revised in December 2017, effective March 13, 2018.

[Deckard #26] Strange indeed - as in most other aspects, cops are above the laws they are sworn to uphold.

There is no support for the present tense assertion.

Hawaii ended its exemption in 2014.

Hawaii law of 2014, HB 1926

Prostitution; Sex Crimes

Amends the offense of prostitution to include sadomasochistic abuse under the definition of "sexual conduct" and clarify that a law enforcement officer shall not be exempt from the offense if the law enforcement officer engages in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse while acting in the course and scope of duties. Amends the offense of solicitation of a minor for prostitution. Clarifies sentencing of repeat offenders and enhanced sentences for repeat violent and sexual offenders. Amends the applicability of a deferred acceptance of guilty plea or nolo contendere plea. (HB1926 CD1)

https://damontucker.com/tag/prostitution-in-hawaii/

Honolulu Police Department Responds to Allegations About Officers Engaging in Sex with Prostitutes

Posted on March 24, 2014

Recent news reports claimed that the Honolulu Police Department urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to engage in sex with prostitutes. This statement is misleading and inaccurate.

First and foremost, the HPD asked the legislature to keep the existing language in the exception. The HPD did not ask for permission to engage in sexual conduct with prostitutes.

Under Hawaii law (HRS Section 712-1200), merely agreeing to pay a fee for sexual conduct constitutes a violation of the statute thus, the exemption for police officers is necessary so they can conduct prostitution investigations. If there was no exemption, officers would not be able to respond to a verbal offer from a suspected prostitute. This does not mean that officers are allowed to engage in sexual penetration.

The HPD has never asked the legislature to allow officers to engage in sex with prostitutes. When HB 1926 was originally drafted, it contained language that allowed the law enforcement exemption UNLESS “the act” involved sexual penetration or deviate sexual intercourse. It was poorly worded so the department asked the committee to omit that sentence, or our officers would not have been able to respond to even a verbal offer of sexual intercourse from a suspected prostitute – one of the most common prostitution violations. The request was NOT made to allow officers to engage in sexual penetration. If we were to codify these rules, we would be publicly revealing specific undercover officer guidelines and Hawaii’s prostitutes, “pimps,” and johns would be able to use the information to avoid prosecution and continue their illegal activity.

The department is keenly aware that prostitutes are often victims of human trafficking or other offenses. Because of this, we work closely with the Hawaii Coalition Against Human Trafficking and other community groups. Our goal is to conduct fair, accurate investigations, taking into consideration the need for prosecution as well as the need to protect the innocent. To accomplish this, we maintain careful oversight of all prostitution cases. There are strict written guidelines to regulate the conduct of officers conducting prostitution investigations.

The randge article quoted at #39 is from 2014. A working link is below.

https://www.ajc.com/news/hawaii-police-officers-allowed-have-sex-with-prostitutes/DpmkFo8ooYW04jVlp6vlnO/

nolu chan  posted on  2019-02-28   21:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: CZ82 (#43) (Edited)

You need to pull your dress down your hypocrisy is showing again.
You need to grow some balls so that you will be able to man up and state your hostility in a brazen manner. You need to become bold and without shame. Show some temerity and don’t cowardly hide behind sarcasm. For after all sarcasm is really just hostility disguised as humor and it is something else you cannot effectively use.

See ya, asshole coward …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   21:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Gatlin, tater, Gilligan, moderator X, Clyven, Transgenic Mouse (#42) (Edited)

using one of the many additional screen names

You ran out of sock puppet accounts, tater?


Hondo68  posted on  2019-02-28   21:13:41 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: GrandIsland (#44) (Edited)

You ever notice when one of the common Paultards get OWNED, some hardly used ID comes out of the woodwork and attempts to defend those assholes, in an indirect, I have no dog in the fight, way.

randge is most likely one of the Paultard assholes.

You don't say ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   21:13:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: nolu chan (#45) (Edited)

Thank you for this information. It is good to be correctly informed.

Edit: I reread your post. Thanks again.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   21:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: GrandIsland (#44)

assholes

some hardly used ID

I fergot you need a license to post here.

Certain big brained commentators cannay post without reverting to gross epithets.

They're props like a stick for the elderly.

randge  posted on  2019-02-28   21:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: randge (#50)

You have that BuckerGoo kinda aura... so fuck off like you do 362 days a posting year.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-28   21:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: GrandIsland (#51)

You have that BuckerGoo kinda aura...
You don't say ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   21:58:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: GrandIsland (#51) (Edited)

Look at "what" just showed up HERE.

Quite a timing coincidence, eh?

Oh my ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-28   22:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: randge (#50)

assholes

some hardly used ID

I fergot you need a license to post here.

I wouldn't be too concerned about anything posted by the canary clan here - blowhards like GrandIsland who is unable to post without spewing a litany of juvenile insults peppered with scatological sewage is an ex cop and proven sociopath.

Gatlin is just another self-aggrandizing, self-righteous toolbag, and egocentric pain in the ass.

He's the smartest guy on the internets - just ask him.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-01   5:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Deckard (#54)

an ex cop

Ex? lol

I’m still arresting those (like you) that either break the law because of ignorance, dysfunctionalness, drug addiction or just because (like you) the law doesn’t apply to them.

I just arrest shitbags in another state now. Have no fear though, I’ll be done arresting scumbags after 10 years of service, in this state. I have 4 in... so 6 more years. Then I’ll fully retire with a full 20 year pension AND a pension HALF as much from another state.

Then after that (2 years) I’ll be 62... S. S. Two years after that... the wife’s S. S.

In 10 years... FOUR CHECKS A MONTH.

So... go fuck yourself.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-01   6:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Deckard (#54)

I wouldn't be too concerned

I'll try not to sweat it.

I've worked all over the planet with many types of folks in various situations, and I just realized that this is the first time that somebody felt called to refer to me as an asshole.

The world goes round and round.

randge  posted on  2019-03-01   10:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: randge (#56)

… called to refer to me as an asshole.
I see no place anyone referred to you as an asshole

You are grossly mistaken.

I did see where someone said you are “most likely” one of the “Paultard assholes.”

Are you one?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-01   10:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Gatlin (#57)

Randge is a decent poster. A decent person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-01   11:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Thank you AKA.

A fellow should ask certain posters here if they've quit beating their wives.

But, never mind.

randge  posted on  2019-03-01   11:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Randge is a decent poster. A decent person.
Okay, I’ll buy what you say….that he is a decent poster and a decent person.

Thank you for letting me know …

I will now see him as a very “gullible” decent poster and decent person since he was ever so easily persuaded to believe the blatantly false information Deckard posted and then to fully support Deckard’s position with absolutely no fact checking on his part at all.

I’ll let it go at that …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-01   13:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: randge (#59) (Edited)

A fellow should ask certain posters here if they've quit beating their wives.
I think if a fellow were to ask certain posters here, namely hondo and Deckard, if they’ve quit beating their wives …

Hondo would plead the fifth as an instance of asserting his right against self-incrimination and then he would post some stupid meme reflecting badly on Trump.

While Deckard on the other hand would claim it was the cops who did it and then he would post four or five hot links to show where some cops shot some dogs.

Hmmm …

Does that sounds about right?

Yea …

But, never mind.
Nah…do it.

Just go on and do it.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-01   13:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin (#61)

I think if a fellow were to ask certain posters here, namely hondo and Deckard, if they’ve quit beating their wives …

Hondo would plead the fifth as an instance of asserting his right against self-incrimination and then he would post some stupid meme reflecting badly on Trump.

While Deckard on the other hand would claim it was the cops who did it and then he would post four or five hot links to show where some cops shot some dogs.

If marijuana were legal and free, provided by MEDICARE for All with a prescription, all such beatings would be cured, and it would not cost anybody anything.

A well regulated marijuana dispensary, being necessary to the availability of a natural high, the right of the people to keep, smoke and ingest marijuana, shall not be infringed.

Muh constimatutional rights!

nolu chan  posted on  2019-03-01   15:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: nolu chan (#62)

A well regulated marijuana dispensary, being necessary to the availability of a natural high, the right of the people to keep, smoke and ingest marijuana, shall not be infringed.

I noticed that science has apparently come up with a way to produce yeast in a fermentation process that produces THC and CBD cannabinoids instead of alcohol.

Just some yeast genetically altered to produce cannabinoids instead of alcohol.

BoingBoing: Brewers yeast genetically modified to produce THC and CBD

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-01   16:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: randge, A K A Stone (#59)

if they've quit beating their wives.

That’s a “decent poster”, Stone?

That’s a fucking PAULTARD that has you fooled. lol

It’s a duplicate ID. It’s used 3 times a year... and it always non directly defends Paultard ideology.

If your program tracks IP addresses, you’d know this.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-01   17:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: nolu chan (#62)

You caused me to actually start over twice while reading your humorous spoof ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-01   18:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Did you ever notice that some folks just can't help themselves and simply have to misstate the case by claiming a poster is using a dup ID.

If they were actually tracking ID's they would know that this isn't the case. But then again these folks are just so full of themselves, it is almost unbearable.

Used to post kind of regular quite a while ago. I still look in from time to time to who's posting what on what sorts of issues. It's no trick to see that there is a real cute element here that does its best to drag a guy down to the level of catcalling & cheap invective.

Reminds me of the way the Left operates. All's fair, and there ain't no rules. It's a shame in a way, but no skin off my nose.

Cheers.

randge  posted on  2019-03-01   22:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Gatlin, short dogs, Fire Island, aholes, tards (#61)

Hondo would [pack of lies follows]

You qualify as an asshole and so does Fire Island.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-01   22:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: randge (#66)

Ok... now fuck off for 365 days and come back and post three times and chalk it up to.. looking in from time to time. Then come up with the same paultard line of canaries or wife beating.

lol... you’re a fucking joke. Only a Paultard buys your bullshit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   1:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: hondo68 (#67)

Fire Island.

After Stinky Pete shits the bed, you might be the only Paultard left using the paultard slam.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   1:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: GrandIsland, A K A Stone, buckeroo (#64) (Edited)

I suggest you just let this go, GI. I feel there is no question that Stone is being duped and if Stone wants to continue to be duped, then let him. For after all, it’s his site.

A certain poster has bragged that he has numerous screen names registered here dating back to the time this site was formed and he calls them up from time to time to use. He also said that he can post from different IPs anywhere in the world, keep them on file to return and use them any time he wants to. Yes, he can do that and I can easily demonstrate how.

So, you asking Stone to check the IP address does absolutely nothing. If Stone does that, he will find a poster using many different screen names is always using the same corresponding IP address he has on file for that screen name.

Look at Post 66 where this poster is toying with Stone to the point that I am actually embarrassed for Stone. As he also did the same thing in Post 59. That sarcasm style is so unique and has such a distinct signature that you need to be a complete fool not to recognize its repetitive use throughout all these many years.

Stone wants to continue to think “Randge is a decent poster. A decent person.” So let him do that. You really should quit trying to convince Stone otherwise. He obviously never will believe you. Just let Randge continue to play Stone as he has been doing and Post 66 is a classic example of that being done.

You are helping Randge carry on his charade and deceit. I suggest you stop doing it. I toyed back with him on a couple of posts but he will never continue to engage with me after one quick brief post. He knows I will recognize his writing style call him out. I long ago call him out when he used different screen names. I no longer do that, it was a waste of time. I will only make occasional posts to his various screen names he calls up a couple times a year to mirror his sarcasm back to him and then I let it go. He knows that I know who he is all the time.

So, I have no doubt who Randge is as I also have no doubt with some other screen names that are called up once or twice, and maybe three times, a year over a ten-year period.

I think the best thing you can do is to let him continue to play his game with Sone for after all he is not out of hand and spouting his libertarian shit for that would definitely give him away to even Stone. And because he returns to post ever so often and stays in line, then he is increasing the activity count on this site. That is the way I long ago came to look at dealing with him and no longer challenge him. I just don’t see giving him a springboard to post off. To continue to post to him plays right into his game plan.

I just read Post 66 again and laughed as I recalled this Patton Movie CLIP …

So, I paraphrase to say: Bucky you misguided libertarian bastard, I always read right through you.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   3:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Gatlin (#70)

For after all, it’s his site.

Amen to that.

It’s let go. Thanks, brother.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   5:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: GrandIsland (#71)

It’s let go.

And you can let it go with the knowledge that you are correct.
He only posted 3 times last year and no more since no one would engage him.
He had only posted once this year until he was engaged and challenged on his purpose and identity.
With no response he would probably have slithered off and reappeared only two more times this year.
But since he has now been unmasked, he no doubt will now make repeated appearances as a cover.
I find it more fun to watch his action that it is to participate in it.

One another point …

Stone locked his one of hondo’s threads and told him: “Don't post anymore articles from fake Christians.”
And now the brazen little bastard comes back with a thread on “Evangelical Ban at LF.”
I am surprised Stone hasn’t also zapped that thread yet and banned his dumb ass.
It is as if hondo derives great pleasure, especially sexual gratification, from self-inducted pain and humiliation.
His desire to achieve the ultimate erotic pleasure for his masochism appears to have no bounds.

You hang in there. You are doing good work.

Later …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   8:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Gatlin (#46)

You need to grow some balls so that you will be able to man up and state your hostility in a brazen manner. You need to become bold and without shame. Show some temerity and don’t cowardly hide behind sarcasm. For after all sarcasm is really just hostility disguised as humor and it is something else you cannot effectively use.

See ya, asshole coward …

Speaking of cowards my bozo level went up by one right after you posted this, as usual. So was it with your Gatlin logon or another one?

You want to talk about hostility maybe you should look in the mirror about how you've treated certain posters like Deckard, Stoner, Paultards and numerous others over the years. Or making silly threats about shutting down someone's website because a few people were pointing out your stupidity (me for one).

Does that ring a bell? (Probably not most people like you want to forget/gloss over really embarrassing schitt don't they). The self proclaimed academia and bully boy schtick is really worn out you know!!

Stuff like that doesn't really look good for someone of your "supposed age" (if the personal rhetoric you've spread is factual "flyboy") makes you look childish and/or a liar, both actually.

If you have a problem with me pointing out your hypocrisy maybe you should act your age, cry to Stone (who will just laugh) or just close shop (like you did the last time you were embarrassed) the choice is yours.

I'm curious as to why you came back? Did what few people you have/had in your life tell you to F.O. or are you hoping people here have short memories? You know some of us have people like you in their family and we can see right thru the bluster and BS. You know instead of the link you posted maybe you should review a few articles concerning honesty and integrity, something you supposedly pledged to uphold about 50 years ago if your lives story is true!!

Oh BTW I'm supposedly younger than you and haven't grown up yet so I get a free pass for my treatment of you, don't I?

Later Gramps...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2019-03-02   8:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: GrandIsland, randge, A K A Stone, Gatlin (#68)

Ok... now fuck off for 365 days and come back and post three times and chalk it up to.. looking in from time to time. Then come up with the same paultard line of canaries or wife beating.

Simply amazing. This site has at most a dozen or so members, and you and Gatlin are doing all you can do discourage new people from posting, because why - they aren't a part of your little echo chamber?

Seriously Stone, do you want this site to grow or are you happy with the reprehensible treatment of newcomers (and long-time posters) by Tater and FireIsland, thereby providing an environment where posters are allowed only beliefs or opinions that agree with yours, so any existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered?

I think we all know the answer to that.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   8:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Tooconservative (#63)

I noticed that science has apparently come up with a way to produce yeast in a fermentation process that produces THC and CBD cannabinoids instead of alcohol.

Just some yeast genetically altered to produce cannabinoids instead of alcohol.

The drug warriors here would call for an immediate ban on such beer.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   8:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Deckard (#74)

This site has at most a dozen or so members, and you and Gatlin are doing all you can do discourage new people from posting, because why - they aren't a part of your little echo chamber?

BULLSHIT ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   8:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Deckard (#74) (Edited)

you can do discourage new people from posting

Bullshit. There are just a handful of Paultard assholes with multiple ID’s, all you assholes have ever done is DEMANDED that FR, LP or LF be Paultard echoing chambers... and you assholes have kept any other types of posters (besides the few snowflakes) from posting here with your anarchist asshole behaviors.

You fucks won’t ever be “discouraged”... society will always have criminals, and LF will always have you assholes.

I’m just hanging around for each of you to kick the geriatric bucket. Stinky is next.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   8:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#70)

... you misguided libertarian bastard, I always read right through you.

I have no idea what you are attempting to say within your sick, schizophrenia deluded mind.

I haven't been on LF for days, much less this thread. Why the HELL are you dragging me into your wretched posts?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   8:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Deckard (#74)

Seriously Stone, do you want this site to grow or are you happy with the reprehensible treatment of newcomers (and long-time posters) by Tater and FireIsland …

Seriously Deckard, you are concerned with the future growth of this site while you continue to daily saturate this site with your spamming cop-hating articles. And continually post yellow journalism articles from The Free Thought Project, Reason, Lew Rockwell and similar ilk?

You are fucking insane …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   8:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#78)

You posted that you had me on bozo and bragged about it

You responding to me provides STRONG evidence that you were lying....AGAIN.

Loser ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   8:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: buckeroo (#78) (Edited)

You are one of FR, LP and LF’s biggest disruptive Paultard assholes. Every time anyone has banned you, like a criminal you keep coming back with new ID’s.

At least when paranoid schizophrenic Goldi banned me on election night, 2012, five minutes after MSM announced the potatoes second victory, I was gone, and respected that crazy bitches decision... and never posted again until I came here.

You posting criminals don’t respect anyone or their forums.

Fuck off, your little “who me” bullshit doesn’t fly.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   8:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Gatlin (#80)

Yeah, I took you off BOZO to understand your weird and bizarre complaints.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   8:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: GrandIsland (#77)

Bullshit. There are just a handful of Paultard assholes with multiple ID’s ...

Amen to that brother.

And one just showed up on this thread using his original ID.

You tell ‘em, GI….you tell ‘em!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   8:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: GrandIsland (#81)

Fuck off

That is about all you are good for.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   8:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Gatlin (#79) (Edited)

Seriously Deckard, you are concerned with the future growth of this site

Ha.... that’s laughable. Dicktard is only concerned about propagating his AGENDA by continuously posting fear mongering police articles and pro drug bullshit.

Anyone that disagrees with that asshole is met with disruption. I know, I’ve been subjected to it since 2008 when that slimey fuck posted under numerous other IDs after being banned multiple times. Like InfoBuger.

There is only one echoing chamber here... the Paultard chamber. Lately it’s the anti Trump echoing chamber... FUCK THEM.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   8:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#82)

I took you off BOZO to understand you

You lie at every turn. You wanna know when you are lying? When your fucking lips are moving.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   8:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: buckeroo (#82)

Yeah, I took you off BOZO to understand your weird and bizarre complaints.

Please again “pretend” you put me back on.
It was so pleasurable not to scroll over the asinine posts you continued to plague me with seeking my attention.
Get lost now.
I have no time for you.
Well, I actually do have time, but I choose not to waste it with you.
Fuck off, you Paultard libertarian asshole …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Gatlin (#87)

Please again “pretend” you put me back on.

Haaaaaa

That’s some funny shit

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   9:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: GrandIsland (#86)

You lie at every turn

He does.

And he always will.

It's a well known and highly recognized Paultard libertarian trait.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: GrandIsland (#88)

I even had to laugh as I posted it.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: GrandIsland (#85)

Dicktard is only concerned about propagating his AGENDA by continuously posting fear mongering police articles and pro drug bullshit.

His undying love and unending devotion ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: GrandIsland (#77)

There are just a handful of Paultard assholes with multiple ID’s,

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Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:07:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: GrandIsland, borisY, Gatlin, Tater (#86)

I have never placed you on BOZO in the past. Gatlin (aka Tater) was on BOZO, as I said because the poster struts around the forum making ridiculous arguments based on the contents of his schizophrenic mind. There is no fact at all. I took the poster off BOZO to listen to his complaints is all. They are unsubstantiated, of course.

It is like he needs to be lockedupped, similar to boris.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Gatlin (#87)

I have no time for you.

So, within the wild schizophrenic mindset you wield, why do you post bizarre commentary to me?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Gatlin (#89)

You lie at every turn

He does.

And he always will.

It’s what anarchist do. Stone has allowed them to infest his forum, like Goldi did. There is no getting rid of the vermin.

The Wheelchair RINO knee how important it was to his forum to rid himself of the intolerant PAULTARDS. His site still goes pretty strong posting, with moderate numbers... and LP IS FINIDHED AND THIS SITE NOT FAR BEHIND.

You tell me what was smart... banning them or providing them a home to post in the name of liberty, ON PRIVATE SITES, using warped ideology?

Rim Job was obviously smarter.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   9:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deckard (#92)

So typical hondo.

Oh wait ...

It's you Deckard.

So typical of the both of you.

You are are such a loss when you are getting your asses kicked that ALL you can do is post stupid memes.

lol ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: GrandIsland (#95)

It’s what anarchist do. Stone has allowed them to infest his forum, like Goldi did. There is no getting rid of the vermin.

They are like a plague ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: GrandIsland (#95)

Rim Job was obviously smarter.

In this respect on FR, yea he was.

But here, they would only use one of the alternative stored IDs.

Of which they have a countless number ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Gatlin (#98)

In this respect on FR, yea he was.

But here, they would only use one of the alternative stored IDs.

Of which they have a countless number ...

Rim Job, I’m sure has giggled his numb ass off hundreds of times knowing all his old pests, are all wrecking other forums... Lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   9:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: buckeroo (#94)

why do you post bizarre commentary to me?

Just to draw you out.

To prove that you were lying all the time about having me on bozo.

And what I can say by your reactive post to me while you claimed to have me on bozo is:

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

ROTFLMAO ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Gatlin (#100)

You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website. When I enter the website I am logged off because of the structure of my browser. I just happened to see you bad mouthing me today and when logged in, I took you off BOZO to communicate with you to further understand your complaints.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: GrandIsland (#99)

Yea ...

And this was another great job you did here this morning.

A Saturday morning successful kick-ass on Paultards is a wonderful way to get the weekend off to a fine start.

Catch you later ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Gatlin (#79)

articles from The Free Thought Project, Reason, Lew Rockwell

Sure, I post from those and a number of other alternative news sites. The corporate media always lies, isn't that the prevailing thought around these parts? My articles do elicit responses, and traffic - especially from the delusional authority fetishists of the canary clan.

Of course, one-dimensional posters and short-bus riders like you you would like it better if articles from FOX News were only allowed. That way you can maintain your Groupthink agenda.

Yeah - that's the ticket!!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo, Tater, GrandIsland (#101)

You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website.

When I enter the website I am logged off because of the structure of my browser. I just happened to see you bad mouthing me today and when logged in

Same here in Firefox.

This internet thing is still a mystery to Tater.

BTW, both he and FireIsland are well known for posting shit about people without putting their name in the To: box.

Sure sign of cowardice.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: buckeroo (#101)

You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website.

I understand that. I understand everything….perfectly well.

Quit groveling asshole. Get up off your knees and stop acting obsequiously in order to obtain forgiveness.

If you didn’t have me on bozo, then you were lying.

If you did have me on bozo and diligently read my posts while you were not signed in, then you are a hypocrite.

In either case, you are a repulsive Paultard with a deeply flawed character.

I’m done here …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Gatlin (#105)

I understand everything….perfectly well.

So why are you complaining to me?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Deckard (#104)

BTW, both he and FireIsland are well known for posting shit about people without putting their name in the To: box.

And the INTENTIONAL reason for doin that is …

Wait for it …

I decided there is no need to bother wasting my time to put your name in the “To” block since you have categorically stated that you ALWAYS read ALL posts I make.

You did post that and you know that you did in a way that is unambiguously explicit and direct?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Gatlin (#107)

And the INTENTIONAL reason for doin that is …

...cowardice.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   9:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Deckard (#108) (Edited)

...cowardice.

To paraphrase old Barry: “Extremism in sense of brevity is never cowardice.”

Now, I'm really finished here.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   9:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: buckeroo (#101)

I took you off BOZO to communicate with you to further understand your complaints.

Here you'll need this.

They don't make anything any stronger that I'm aware of so when you force feed him some be patient, it might take awhile for him to calm down and emote coherently.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2019-03-02   9:57:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Gatlin (#105)

buckeroo: You don't understand the Internet. The BOZO filter on LF only works when logged into the website. When I enter the website I am logged off because of the structure of my browser. I just happened to see you bad mouthing me today and when logged in, I took you off BOZO to communicate with you to further understand your complaints.

Gatlin: I understand that. I understand everything….perfectly well.

Well... I will leave the door open for discussion for a few days since I don't want to take the time to involve any extraordinary key strokes to BOZO you again.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   9:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Gatlin (#102)

A Saturday morning successful kick-ass on Paultards is a wonderful way to get the weekend off to a fine start.

Catch you later ...

Later tater.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-02   10:03:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: A K A Stone (#58)

It’s considered good manners to ping those you’re talking about, but in employing a number of unwarranted and ugly insults, certain elements here have voided claims to such courtesies. I have even been called a Paultard (imagine that) without giving any hint of what my persuasions are. And although I like the Pauls, I am much more of a “Trumptard” than the other thing.

The catcalls here are not the end of the senselessness. There is some claim that I am some kind of bot or using a false identity. (“I long ago call him out when he used different screen names.” I have no idea what this person is talking about.) I do have an alternate ID that I’ve used once or twice long ago when I couldn’t remember my PW and temporarily opened a second account which I never use. I been here, BTW, way back when this was called Liberty Post, so I’m familiar with some of the characters – and some of the bullshit here.

What’s really the shit outside of the name calling is outright lying that’s employed when a poster sides, for the sake of argument, with a point antagonistic to some well known regulars here. These are mugs that hang out here a lot and who like to stir the pot. Why it’s tolerated escapes me. It is primitive beyond belief, and I know that I am not the only one who is the object of intentional, systematic and uncalled for harassment. These are nothing but BOLSHIE tactics, and they might be funny in a frat boy sort of way if they weren’t so corrosive of the purposes of the forum.

So, just so you know. I give a fuck, and I will post here 361, 362, 363, 364, 365 days and on a leap year 366 day – or not at all – if it suits me. Or Stone can toss me, if that’s what he chooses to do.

randge  posted on  2019-03-02   15:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: randge, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#113)

So, just so you know. I give a fuck, and I will post here 361, 362, 363, 364, 365 days and on a leap year 366 day – or not at all – if it suits me.

Be very careful about how you phrase your English sentence structure; both tater and GI believe you are one of my sockpuppets.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   15:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeroo (#114)

Oh, so sorry.

Never begin a sentence with a coordinating conjunction.

My bad, bucky.

randge  posted on  2019-03-02   15:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: randge, Gatlin, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#115)

My bad,

You have nothing to be sorry about. However, there are others that need to be brought to task about their charges concerning sockpuppets. Both GI and tater have too much time on their hands creating make believe BS as they collect their social security checks living in absolute squalor in some slum.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   15:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: randge (#113)

It’s considered good manners to ping those you’re talking about

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”... even if you post 3 times a year with this ID. You a Dicktard can share a safe space together, since both you pussies cry over not being pinged.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   16:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: GrandIsland, randge, Deckard (#117)

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”... even if you post 3 times a year with this ID. You a Dicktard can share a safe space together, since both you pussies cry over not being pinged.

You have a problem, officer. You drink too much when making wild ass claims on the Internet.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: randge (#113)

… certain elements here have voided claims to such courtesies …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   17:22:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: GrandIsland (#117)

Suck it up, bitch. It’s not a constitutional right to be “pinged”...

No one claimed it is a constitutional right - it's a matter of courtesy, which we all know that in your view is a sign of weakness.

To me and other rational folks, your views on courtesy, empathy, caring are those of a borderline sociopath.

But I do see a glimmer of humor in your post - someone like you attempting to lecture others on "constitutional rights".

Funny stuff there.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   17:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: buckeroo (#118)

I most likely drink less (alcoholic beverages) than you, shit breath.

However, now that you mention it, I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Deckard (#120)

Insanity posts by gatlin an grandisland today.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Deckard (#120)

it's a matter of courtesy, which we all know that in your view is a sign of weakness.

You happen to be correct. Giving anyone “courtesy” that isn’t a family, friend, higher rank... or previously earned it, IS A WEAKNESS. It’s kinda like affirmative action. When you act in a way that deserves “courtesy”, bitch, and you’ve EARNED IT... I’ll extent that towards you. Like I do for Stone or Gat.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: All (#122)

I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#121) (Edited)

I’ll be having a few IPA’s at the local sports bar, tonight, watching UFC 235.

The UFC Now Supports Gay Rights a Lot More Than the NFL

Two openly gay fighters to square off for title at UFC 224 in historic first

Computer Hope

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-02   17:37:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: buckeroo (#124)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

I’m currently undefeated, in any physical altercation... and though I’ve been injured arresting resisting subject(s), I’ve never lost.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: GrandIsland (#126)

You just SHOUT Bullshit, all the time.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   17:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: buckeroo (#127)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

Why the lol?

From what I have read and then posted on this forum, it damned sure well is likely in Belize.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   17:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Gatlin (#128)

Belize

= a 3rd world shithole. Populated by shitholians.

Jungle taco bunnies & ex-American traitors.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   17:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Gatlin (#128)

Why the lol?

Whats life about in Scottsdale Arizona riding round in a 1980 Winnebago?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-02   18:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: buckeroo, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#122)

Insanity posts by gatlin an grandisland today.

Stop the insanity!

Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

Study finds that 100% of the study participants reported using drugs, with average age of first introduction at 12.7 years old.

Study finds that the average age of first sex trafficking experience was 14.7 years old, two years after average age of being a doper, establishing a direct relationship between becoming a doper and subsequently becoming a sex worker.

Study finds that that 95.5% reported running away before they were 18, subsequent to becoming a doper, establishing a direct relationship between being a doper and engaging in stupid and/or reckless behavior.

A kid swallowed all the Scrabble letters. Now his poop shows more intelligence than a libertarian.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-03-02   18:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: nolu chan (#131)

Amen ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-02   18:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: nolu chan (#131) (Edited)

Study finds that...

Study finds that... Paultards are morons.

Thanks for educating the idiots... or pointing out their YELLA, continuous... agitate propaganda.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-02   19:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Deckard (#75)

The drug warriors here would call for an immediate ban on such beer.

If the beer companies get a sniff of how much money they can make off T-beer (THC beer), Katie bar the door. Obviously, they are well-positioned to create a yeast-based THC beer market.

The drug warriors won't be able to do much more than mutter.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-02   19:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: GrandIsland, tater (#126)

I’m currently undefeated,

I’ve never lost.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-02   20:13:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: GrandIsland (#77)

posting here with your anarchist asshole behaviors.

Fist off queerbait - the only asshole behaviors are provided by Gatslime and FireIsland, you foul-mouthed, ignorant neanderthal.

Secondly:

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I’m just hanging around for each of you to kick the geriatric bucket. Stinky is next.

Attaboy!! Stay classy freak-show.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-03   1:59:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, hondo68 (#126)

I hope you get your face punched in publick.

lol... not likely.

I’m currently undefeated, in any physical altercation... and though I’ve been injured arresting resisting subject(s), I’ve never lost.

Behold, the Internet Tough Guy. Also known as a Keyboard Warrior or "Donga", he talks big shit online, and doesn't afraid of anything. Always male (for there are no girls on the internet). As he will thoroughly explain to you, he is respected and feared by ALL; no way he's skittish to casually throw around ep1c insultz and one-lieners like "go fuck yourself," or "u aint done sucking my dick."

He swears a lot just to show how hardcore he is. God help you if you even dare defy him by delivering some sort of retort when he says something to you, or practicing logic on his userpage, or even reading whatever he posted and writing replies of disagreement (or even agreeing responses, in some cases) relating exactly to what you just read ... No, you can't do that. No. No.

You don't even know him or what he's about. Internet Tough Guy isn't someone you should mess with, ever. That's right, you cross the line and he will come to your house and fuck you up so bad and rape you so hard and kill you so god damn dead OH SHIT. You must have pissed yourself by now from these horrific threats of bodily harm. Because if someone threatens you online, that's it. Game over man. Game over! You are d-e-a-d, DEAD!

Actually, IRL, Internet Tough Guy, there? He's a total fag or a basement-dweller, with a high chance of being a redneck and/or skinhead. Sometimes, the Internet Tough Guy will actually be somewhat "tough." However, this makes him about four times more of a total fag. The sad reality is that these people are a concentrated form of noob, not one of whom can grasp the concept that they obviously are never actually going to be able to make good on their intimidating remarks, or that their low-IQ ramblings do not impress the Internet nor physically affect people on it in any way.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-03   2:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Gatlin, nolu chan, randge, GrandIsland (#40)

New York, NY — It has been over a year since then 18-year-old Anna Chambers accused two on-duty NYPD officers of raping her in the back of a police van on the night of September 15th, 2017. As emphatically as she claims she was raped and did not consent to having sex with two police officers, she asserts not only have the police continued to attempt to intimidate her but the very justice system she looked to for help was set up to help the alleged rapists. Now, her claims have been proven correct.

Both of the officers, Eddie Martins and Richard Hall had faced up to 25 years in prison on the original rape and kidnapping charges, But this week, they had all those charges dropped. Because the system is set up in a way to protect predator police officers, the charges have been reduced to bribery and official misconduct. They have both since been released on their own recognizance.

“It’s just outrageous,” said Chambers’ lawyer, Michael David. “It was a clear-cut case. She was kidnapped. There was DNA evidence,” he said.

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

Both officers kidnapped Chambers in 2017 for allegedly possessing marijuana. The cops conveniently let all of her friends go, and kept only the tiny teen girl.

As TFTP reported, Chambers used social media to voice her outcry for justice. She stated she was never actually arrested, just dropped off near the police station after she says Hall and Martins had their way with her, both men raping her while she was still in handcuffs.

The law cops were using to protect themselves from Anna’s testimony happens to exist in 34 other states as well where police officers can claim sex with someone they have taken into custody was consensual. Buzzfeed News described the previous situation in New York:

It was one of 35 states where armed law enforcement officers can evade sexual assault charges by claiming that such an encounter — from groping to intercourse — was consensual.

The fact that this was legal at all speaks to the nature of the sadistic above the law attitudes of police officers.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-08   5:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Deckard (#138)

You posted this article on 02/27 tititled:

Study Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

We then had a few exchanges before I posted this to you.

Deckard: Strange indeed - as in most other aspects, cops are above the laws they are sworn to uphold.

Gatlin: Above which law in the case here where randge is referring to for your response:

Deckard:It’s not just Hawaii either. In Michigan, police were granted immunity from prosecution if they had sex with a prostitute or a sex trafficking victim during an investigation.

Gatlin: Please cite the specific law cops are above here.

Think carefully now, Deckard – think very carefully. And slowly move your finger under each word as you again read:

Gatlin: Above which law in the case here where randge is referring to for your response:

Gatlin: Please cite the specific law cops are above here.

Let’s stop for you to realize what “here” means.

Here is a adverb. It means “in or at this place.” It also means “NOW.” And it also means “to this place.”

Assuming that you are able to comprehend this, then you should without question understand the question I asked of you. You did not. So, please permit me help you. The “HERE” to both of us meant the article you posted titled: Finds Nearly Half of Child and Adult Sex Trafficking Victims Were Abused by Police

Now, please explain to me and so everyone can also see, why you showed complete ignorance by coming back to a article posted last month where we were discussing that case [“here”] and now you have you try to BULLSHIT me by posting something from an ENTIRLY different article.

Explain, please …

Can you ever – EVER – get anything straight in your life?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-08   13:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Deckard (#138)

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

I almost lost my coffee reading this. When legislatures are brought so low in stooping to this level in curbing sordid conduct, you know that everything is going downhill.

It is a bad, bad state of affairs. Things seem to be getting more dangerous all the time, and I meet more and more folk that have recently been victims of crime - that includes people that I've known a long time.

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.

randge  posted on  2019-03-10   14:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: randge (#140)

After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case. I almost lost my coffee reading this. When legislatures are brought so low in stooping to this level in curbing sordid conduct, you know that everything is going downhill.

It is a bad, bad state of affairs. Things seem to be getting more dangerous all the time, and I meet more and more folk that have recently been victims of crime - that includes people that I've known a long time.

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.

This situational post is a well-conceived one, and you correctly described it with spirit.

I agree entirely with your assessment and especially with your statement in the closing sentence – which I will repeat for emphasis:

We depend more and more on LE to defend us from out of control elements, but the data seems to show that we can trust them less and less.
Yes, Americans do depend more and more on LE to defend us, but I contend it is not the data we should be concerned with. it is those – folks like Deckard and publications like TFTP just to name a few – who twist that data and situations to dupe gullible people like Stoner and make it appear that LE is failing. It seems they have a “dark agenda” to destroy America for some unstated reason and they are starting with our LE. Their effort to destroy America is strong. Their agenda and the Democratic Party’s agenda will destroy America if those agendas are allowed to succeed. It would be no surprise to find both being funded from the same central source. The open-ended question that remains unaddressed and unanswered is – WHY are they undertaking to do this?

A headline in St. Louis Post-Dispatch was frightening by any standard: "Bloody St. Louis sees 7 killings; 3 arrests." The piece went on to detail six shootings over a 13-hour stretch that killed seven people, including a single mother of two and a hotel night manager.

But just as it's never pointed out that thousands of aircraft landed safely on the day of a plane crash, a little perspective can place this tragedy in some context. Violent crime in St. Louis peaked in 1993, and in 2013, the last year for which data is available, the violent crime rate was lower than it was in 1985.

Today, the national crime rate is about half of what it was at its height in 1991. Violent crime has fallen by 51 percent since 1991, and property crime by 43 percent. In 2013 the violent crime rate was the lowest since 1970. And this holds true for unreported crimes as well. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, since 1993 the rate of violent crime has declined from 79.8 to 23.2 victimizations per 1,000 people. Americans who lived through the 1960s and 1970s remember the fear associated with a real surge in violent crime. In fact, the violent crime rate increased by 126 percent between 1960 and 1970, and by 64 percent between 1970 and 1980. The Brennan Center recently issued a report examining 14 theories for why crime declined in the U.S. so dramatically since the early 1990s. According to our empirical analysis, the greatest contributing factors in the crime drop were aging population, changes in income, and decreased alcohol consumption.

Despite not knowing exactly why crime declined so dramatically, it appears that many Americans are not even aware that it did.

One would think that with the dramatic drop in crime, America's communities would be reveling in the streets as though it were Mardi Gras, or at least talking about how much safer they feel walking around their neighborhoods as adults than they felt walking the streets as teenagers. But decades of Gallup polls indicate otherwise.

According to a Gallup poll from November 2014, despite dramatic declines in the nation's violent crime rate, a majority of Americans say "there is more crime in the U.S. than there was a year ago," which reflects a long-term Gallup trend. Currently, 63 percent of Americans believe crime is up over last year. The reality, again, is different. Crime statistics released by the FBI also in November 2014 revealed that the estimated number of violent crimes in 2013 decreased by 4.4 percent when compared with 2012 figures, and the estimated number of property crimes decreased by 4.1 percent.

Government statistics show that, except for some small blips, serious crime has decreased almost every year from 1994 through 2013. For over a decade Gallup has found that the majority of Americans polled believe crime is up, contrary to the fact that crime rates have plummeted in almost every small and large city since the 1990s. This is not to say that all cities and areas are experiencing decreases in violent crime year after year, but the overall rate of violent crime is significantly lower than historic levels.

We can gauge public perception of crime in other ways as well. In the figure below we can see the trends in the homicide rate, as well as the number of mentions of "murder" or "homicide" in New York City's and St. Louis' major newspaper headlines.

In New York City, for example, homicides are at an all-time low. The homicide rate per 100,000 people was 4 in 2013, compared with 31 in 1990. Headline mentions of murder in The New York Times per year have bounced around a lot but don't show the same steady, downward trend as homicides themselves. There were 129 mentions of "homicide" or "murder" in the Times' headlines in 1990, when the murder rate was at a historical high. There were 135 in 2013.

In St. Louis homicides are down from their early-1990s peak, but the trend has been flat. The city hasn't seen New York's dramatic decline, but crime is still down significantly since the 1990s. The homicide rate in 2013 in St. Louis was 38, compared with 45 in 1990. Headline mentions of murder in the St. Louis Post- Dispatch have declined markedly, however. Unlike in New York, murder headlines have declined even more quickly than the homicide rate. In the Post-Dispatch headlines, mentions of "murder" or "homicide" have dipped from 232 in 1990 to just 67 in 2013. Yet despite the drop in headlines mentioning murder, the gruesomeness has not gone away. Case in point: A headline in the St. Louis Dispatch on Dec. 21, 2013, read, "Missing Alton woman was slain and dismembered; 2 men charged with murder," and a Nov. 14, 2013, headline in the same newspaper read, "St. Louis man convicted of stabbing grandmother to death."

It seems that what the data shows is that despite decreasing murder rates and decreasing attention (at least in some newspapers), the public still believes crime is rampant. This indicates that the public still hasn't recovered from the years of the crime surge, or, perhaps more accurately, that the sensationalist coverage of isolated crimes has contributed to the public misperception that crime is increasing.

As with the Gallup polls data, the narrative of violent crime -- at least in the popular press -- doesn't have much to do with the crime reality. Crime across the nation is at an all-time low. We need to recognize that and embrace effective policies to keep it even lower. Just as with the case of airplane crashes, the public may see the extraordinary event as representative of the norm when it is not.

America's Faulty Perception of Crime Rates.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-10   15:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Deckard (#0)

Khara Jabola-Carolus, with the Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women, explained that the abuse was extensive and on all levels of the spectrum. “This ranged from cops asking for sexual favors to more coercive situations like I’ll let you go if you do X, Y, or Z for me.’ Bring customers after hours in exchange for cigarettes or gas money,” she explained...

To be honest, I'm cynical of this report, and the 'Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women'.

Why? Because of this ongoing agenda by Womyn who constantly play the victim-card while broad-brushing all men with their ongoing BS "Toxic Patriarchy!!" card.

MOREOVER, shouldn't we be sick and tired of these mob-frenzy that keeps on attempting (and quite successfully at times) to feminize AND emasculate, malign, slander and be dismissive of ALL MEN? And conflating the evil acts of a few with ALL of us??

Despite the claim against *some* bad cops here, and terrible policies, Khara Jabola-Carolus and Hawaii's "State Commission on the Status of Womyn' has little cred with me. She and they can leap into the crater at Mauna Loa for all I care with her NOW card. She doesn't care about women. This is...abut POWER.

This is just more of the same-ol' agenda-driven "ALL MEN/COPS-ARE-EVIL" trope.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-10   16:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: nolu chan (#131)

Study finds that 100% of the study participants reported using drugs, with average age of first introduction at 12.7 years old.

Study finds that the average age of first sex trafficking experience was 14.7 years old, two years after average age of being a doper, establishing a direct relationship between becoming a doper and subsequently becoming a sex worker.

WOW.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-10   16:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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