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Title: Homeschoolers Outraged at ‘Orwellian’ Iowa Bill That ‘Treats Them All Like Criminals’ – Mandatory Home Inspections
Source: From The Trenches/CBS News
URL Source: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport. ... datory-home-inspections/242123
Published: Feb 23, 2019
Author: Emily Jones
Post Date: 2019-02-23 21:01:54 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 844
Comments: 9

Homeschool advocates are speaking out about an Iowa bill that requires school and court officials to conduct health and wellness checks on families who homeschool.

HF 272, introduced by Rep. Mary Mascher, would make homeschool families who do not report to their school district subject to regular home visits.   

“The board of directors of a school district shall conduct quarterly home visits to check on the health and safety of children located within the district who are receiving independent private instruction or private instruction,” the bill reads.

The bill also says these home visits “shall take place in the child’s residence with the consent of the parent, guardian, or legal custodian and an interview or observation of the child may be conducted.”

If parents do not give consent, then “the juvenile court or district court upon a showing of probable cause may authorize the person making the home visit to enter the home and interview or observe the child.”

The bill does not specify what defines probable cause in this case, which makes some homeschool advocates uneasy.

“This bill essentially puts homeschooling families on the level of parents who have been accused or have had a finding of child abuse or neglect,” writes Shane Vander Hart, editor of Truth in American Education.
HF 272 also requires homeschool parents to submit proof that their child is up to date on vaccinations, submit their educational plans for approval, and agree to have their children participate in annual academic testing.

Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) senior counsel Scott Woodruff said the law is a waste of time and money.

“Rep. Mascher’s HF 272, in addition to resurrecting long-dead paperwork requirements for homeschool families, treats them all like criminals,” Woodruff said. “Without explaining who is going to pay for it — with school and child protective personnel already stretched beyond the breaking point — she wants to command that state agents come into the homes of every single homeschool family in the state four times a year.”

“In what world do we waste money poking into the homes of thousands of people when there is not the slightest reason to believe an individual has done anything wrong?” Woodruff asked. “When people who believe that the government can, and should, solve all problems, this is the kind of utopian dream they dream. Dreams like that only get us closer to an Orwellian world.”

Iowa lawmakers have also introduced similar bills called HF 100, which calls for health and safety checks, and HF 182, which critics argue will limit the freedom of many homeschool families.

The bills mandating health and wellness checks are a response to the deaths of two Iowa girls who were severely abused by their adoptive families after they were removed from public school.

Still, critics don’t believe mandatory house visits is a good solution.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/february/homeschoolers-outraged-at-orwellian-iowa-bill-that-treats-them-all-like-criminals-mandatory-home-inspections

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#1. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-02-23   22:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) senior counsel Scott Woodruff said the law is a waste of time and money.

Oh yea, Mister Woodruff, the law probably is a waste of time and money in some cases but it is definitely not in many other reported devastatingly tragic situations.

Unfortunately, there are far too many cases where time and money would not be wasted. We need only to consider those situations in the seemingly countless number of times where it has been vividly reported that children were found to have been locked in cages of the types found in medieval torture dungeons. Where abused children were forced to wear shock collars, or have their hands and feet bound with zip-ties. Or the cases where homeschooled children were chained to their beds, found to be severely malnourished, and in some cases starved to death. Where access to food is used as an actual weapon and physical restraint is a means to intimidate for total control.

Again I mention that it has been graphically reported there were children homeschooled by abusive parents who have actually died of starvation or almost as tragic been found so malnourished that their growth is permanently and significantly stunted. Then there were some parents who even put locks or alarms on their refrigerator or kitchen cupboards. And other cases where children, less we not forget that by mentioning it again, have been kept in cages at night, locked in their rooms with a bucket to relieve themselves, or imprisoned in a bathroom for months, or allowed out of their rooms for only one meal each day. There are also plenty of cases that are less severe than these but still incredibly damaging to children’s health and well-being. When it comes to both physical confinement and access to food, abused homeschooled children are at the mercy of their parents.

No sir, Mister Woodruff, the law would neve have been a waste of time and money in any of the many cases which I call attention to for the due objective consideration of all.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-24   4:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ACTION NOTE TO HONDOPE (#2)

It is probably a good time and place for you to post another tragically misuse of some stupid meme now.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-24   4:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin, is Melissa Harris Perry, collectivist goon, thug, moron, scofflaw, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#3)

some stupid meme now.

Alas, there are none that adequately depict the totality of your stupidity and lawless thuggery.

Melissa, you're a kidnapper and a child molester.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-02-24   8:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#4)

Thinking about your stupidity has caused me to remember a comment in the article, one which I will now comment on.

State reps like @marymascher pushing HF 272 want to remind Iowans they own your children.

I may shock you Miss Mary, but I do not feel that children are to be considered as some private property anyone “owns.”

I prefer that children be objectively seen as a deep concern for their wellbeing and never as the private property of their parents.

Mary went on to say:

Force health and safety checks on homeschool families just because they are homeschooled.
To which I say: No, Mary, it was NEVER said that check on homeschool families were JUST because they were homeschooled.

In fact the article SPECIFICALLY stated:

The bills mandating health and wellness checks are a response to the deaths of two Iowa girls who were severely abused by their adoptive families after they were removed from public school.
Dang, Miss Mary, you get JUST as confused as Deckard always does.

Mary finishes her comment by saying:

How dare you raise your kids without government you monsters.
Now, Mary, you sound as stupid as hondope with your sarcastic rational.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-24   9:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#4)

some stupid meme now.

Alas, there are none that adequately depict the totality of your stupidity and lawless thuggery.

You beat me to it, posting that video.

Can't help but think of that quote (“We haven’t had a very collective notion of ‘These are our children.’ So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that ‘kids belong to their parents’ or ‘kids belong to their families,’ and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.”) whenever Gatlin posts on threads like this, kids operating lemonade stands or playing outside alone.

Apparently Tater has more in common with socialists than he realizes.

This is straight out of Marx, Engels and "The Communist Manifesto.
(H/T: Rush Limbaugh)

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-02-24   10:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

Melissa-Harris Perry was dead wrong when she said the “kids belong to [are the property of] whole communities.” And Mary Mascher is also dead wrong when it is shown in this article where she stated that “Iowans own you’re their children.” Kids are human beings. They don’t “belong to” whole communities and parents can’t “own” them.

No human being has been owned or can ever be owned in the United States of America since New Year’s Day, 1863. That was when the Emancipation Proclamation was issued by Abraham Lincoln, the first elected Republican president.

I believe that human beings, kids and everyone of all ages included, cannot be “owned.” Therefore it is obvious that I firmly have more in common with Abraham Lincoln than you can possibly realize.

All that having been said, we now return to the article where it was stated that:

The bills mandating health and wellness checks are a response to the deaths of two Iowa girls who were severely abused by their adoptive families after they were removed from public school. Still, critics don’t believe mandatory house visits is a good solution.
To which I respond:
Still, critics don’t believe mandatory house visits is a good solution however critics offer absolutely no recommendations for a good solution.
There, that’s better. I properly finished that nebulous sentence from the article.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-24   13:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#0)

What happened to "probable cause"?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-02-24   19:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#8) (Edited)

What happened to "probable cause"?

It’s still in there and nothing has changed.

Check the 5th paragraph for:

If parents do not give consent, then “the juvenile court or district court upon a showing of probable cause may authorize the person making the home visit to enter the home and interview or observe the child.”
I say nothing has changed because even if the child were in the public system and there was reason to suspect abuse by the parents, the juvenile court or district court may still authorize the person making the home visit to enter the home and interview or observe the child.

The whole article is a bullshit article written for the sole purpose to develop further hate for the “system.” As if some folks actually needed “further” agitation.

So, it really is the same law only written in a different way to serve the same purpose.

If someone didn’t like the first one, they will also naturally not like this one. If someone was okay with the first one, then they will be okay with this one.

What you are seeing here is only Deckard spreading his “fright and hate shit” some more.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-02-24   19:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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