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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Video and Audio See other Video and Audio Articles Title: 'We Shall Overcome' The comback of protest songs Source: Boston Globe URL Source: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed ... 5/06/we_shall_overcome?mode=PF Published: May 9, 2006 Author: Robert Kuttner Post Date: 2006-05-09 01:45:21 by Morgana le Fay Keywords: None Views: 61088 Comments: 124 ''THIS IS our first gig," said Bruce Springsteen. ''I hope it goes OK." With that, The Boss and his 18-piece Seeger Sessions Band opened their set with a rocking rendition of ''Oh, Mary, Don't You Weep." As an act of solidarity with this doubly ravaged city, Springsteen began his homage to Pete Seeger tour here, at ground zero of everything ruinous about the people who now run our country. The 37th annual Jazz and Heritage Festival was playing to a smaller, whiter crowd than usual in half-abandoned New Orleans. It would be hard to imagine a more poignant or uplifting marriage of musician, impulse, venue, and moment. Lately, musicians as diverse as Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Paul Simon, and Ani di Franco have followed the same impulse. This is surely the time and the place. Commentators solemnly billed Hurricane Katrina as the flood that laid bare awkward truths of class and race in America. It did -- for a vivid week, and then we turned away. By a fine accident of timing, I came here for a conference on what Katrina revealed -- and found plenty of surprises. Downtown and the tourist French Quarter, which got priority federal attention, look as if Katrina had never happened. But the outlying scale of devastation is far more extensive, and the federal default of government more staggering, than one could imagine. Of 485,000 people who lived here before Katrina, only about 165,000 remain. New Orleans had high rates of black home ownership. But tens of thousands of homeowners are trapped in a horrific Catch-22 because of cascading federal failures. In huge swaths of the city, basic public services are unrestored, so people can't return to viable houses. Mountains of stinking rubbish -- once the stuff of homes and lives -- lie uncollected on front yards. FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, decided to clear inhabited areas first. It just never returned to pick up the rest. Tens of thousands of homes could be renovated and reoccupied. But instead of making emergency rehab grants or loans, FEMA spends $90,000 per trailer, often parked in front yards, while black mold relentlessly ruins structurally sound houses. FEMA was slow to revise federal flood insurance guidelines. Without federal flood coverage, no private insurance flows and people can't get bank loans. So extensive salvageable areas remain unoccupied. Meanwhile, the 2006 hurricane season arrives June 1, but the levees are restored only to withstand a mild category 2 storm. Filling some of the vacuum left by the Bush default, heroic work is being done by volunteers, from Habitat for Humanity, ACORN, and several churches and trade unions. Many live in a tent city -- which FEMA now plans to tear down June 1. Springsteen toured all this, appalled. He composed two new stanzas to the 1929 song, ''How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live?" including, ''[Bush] gave a little pep talk, said I'm with you, then he took a walk." Springsteen elicited loud cheers when he deplored the government's ''criminal irresponsibility." A small plane circled, towing an ''Impeach Bush" banner. New Orleans heroically pulled itself together to bring off this Fest. Held on a racetrack grounds, the fair has nine simultaneous performance spaces going all day, a crafts section, kids' tent, and a food midway where New Orleans's finest chefs serve such specialties as artichoke and oyster soup and gourmet jambalaya ladled from murky oil drums at $5 a bowl. As the field dried out from a drenching rain, I gloriously wandered from Willis Prudhomme and the Zydeco Express to the gospel tent to a medley of everything from brass bands, Dixieland funeral music, back to more zydeco, to blues. By 5:30, when Springsteen strode onto the main stage, following New Orleans legend Allen Toussaint, the sun was shining. Like Seeger's, the Springsteen repertoire included not just political songs such as ''Keep Your Eyes on the Prize," but the whimsical bits of Americana that Seeger loved, like ''(Get Out of the Way,) Old Dan Tucker." And when Springsteen began ''We Shall Overcome," the crowd, both the '60s generation and youngsters who had seen it only on TV joined uplifted hands, swayed, and sang along, without irony. If anyone can reintroduce songs of protest to a new mass audience, making that much-reworked tradition fresh, it is the sunny, exuberant Springsteen. Folk music was, of course, the original popular culture. Sometimes, the borrowings of commercial pop from folk music are cheesy and opportunistic (say, the Byrds' version of Seeger). Other times, the result is a powerful, authentic synthesis, as in the work of Ry Cooder, Bob Dylan, and John Lennon at their best, New Orleans's own Randy Newman, who wrote the original flood anthem three decades ago, ''Louisiana: They're trying to wash us away," and now Springsteen. Like protest music, you never know when protest itself will recur. As Springsteen packed up and our conference began, millions not ''Born In The USA" were assembling across America to declare their dignity as working people and human beings. They also sang. America today is depressing, but music adds energy and spirit to the protest imperative. Song is an inherently collective ritual that reminds us that we are not alone. You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect. His column appears regularly in the Globe. Post Comment Private Reply Bookmark Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-84) not displayed.       .       .       . #85. To: Mudboy Slim, Jhoffa (#80) Never mind the quarrels. Vital imput needed, as regards this picture... Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   8:32:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #86. To: A K A Stone (#84) What've you got in your area? In Missouri, it's blacksnakes, gray racers, a very few rattlesnakes, copperheads, milk snakes, king snakes, water mocassins, and of course, gartersnakes... Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   8:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #87. To: continental op (#86) Im in Ohio. We have mostly black snakes. Some garter snakes too. I've been told that there are no poisonous snakes in this region. A friend of mine told me a ranger told him that. That was back in the 80's though. There could have been some migration. Who knows, i'm no expert. I always just found it fun to catch snakes. I like catching other creatures too. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-11   8:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #88. To: A K A Stone (#87) I've caught three black snakes this past week. One was a six-footer. They're really active this time of year. Have you got any pictures of snakes, you've caught? Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   8:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #89. To: continental op (#88) No pictures, sorry. If you want I would like to see some of your pics of snakes. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-11   8:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #90. To: A K A Stone (#89) I've got a lot of pictures and a couple of videos of my "snakehandling" experiences. I need to get a photobucket account. will post them on your forum, first. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   8:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #91. To: continental op (#85) "this picture..." I'm just getting the dreaded red "x", co-op...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #92. To: continental op, Coral Snake (#90) "I've got a lot of pictures and a couple of videos of my "snakehandling" experiences." Wow, you oughtta start up a website, http://CatchingSnakes.com or somesuch...LOL!! Regards...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #93. To: Mudboy Slim (#92) I plan to. I used to have a dog, that I trained to kill snakes. One of my cats was also quite good at it. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   9:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #94. To: continental op (#93) Make a video..."When Housepets Hunt Snakes!!" Gotta take advantage of today's economy...these days, folks will spend ten bucks to see two dogs gettin' it on...MUD BTW...I'll be selling MudMusic CDs fer $9.99...LOL!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #95. To: continental op (#90) I've got a lot of pictures and a couple of videos of my "snakehandling" experiences. good morning poncy! I will pass on the picture of you playing with your snake. Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-11   9:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #96. To: continental op, JHoffa_, SMOKESCREEN, TLBSHOW, Dakmar, palo verde, A K A Stone, buckeroo, war, ferret mike (#93) Alright, everybody sing along... "Right's Battle Against Left's Whore'd!!" (To be sung to Led Zeppelin's "The Battle of Evermore") The King of Lyin' smugly bows... "Respect the Prez," we're told... "Protests shall cease...he'll be gone soon... Just leave Ol' Slick alone!!" Has the Right lost its mind?! DETHRONE THE WHORE!! Lib'rals kill with great delight... The Right must fight this War... Folks, throw down the gauntlet now... Rest not 'til Slick's DETHRONED!! Side-by-side, we'll FReep and fight... Right shall win this Culture War!! Ohh-oh-ah-oahhhhh... Hey...Dems gotta wonder... How far protectin' Slick they'll go! I'm waitin' fer some Righteous Republicans... To stand up and Re-Impeach Left's 'HO!! The Wisdom of the Forefathers told... "Preserve Equal Justice!!" Imprison Slick 'cuz Law don't care... 'Tween naif or President...No nooooo!! This Country is worth the fight... Truth shall CONDEMN Left's Blight!! Lib'rals enslave folks brown and black... The Med'yuh feeds their dread...ohhhh... Fear is the Lib'rals' Plight... Publik-skewl-ignorantized!!! This World is filled with Good and Bad... How will our children know?! Ohh...now...ohh-oh-ohhh... Orwell, yer book wuz WRONG... Bold FReepers taught me so... Fine time fer an uprise... RE-IMPEACH THE CHI-COM 'HO!! The Pain of War cannot exceed... Waco's burnt stench of Death!! Our drums shall shake the White House halls... Our guitars shall steal Slick's breath!! Fight on...sing fer our Nation...Fight on... VOTE RIGHT...the Left shall fall!! No need for Fear...we'll set things Right... Our Might'll transform the World!! Dance with the FReepin' Right... Sing 'til the mornin' lights!! History looms...be Strong and Bold... We'll bring True Justice back!! Bring it back... At last, Reagan'll be smilin'... At Guv'ment small and nice. We have caged The Butcher of Christians... Sic Semper Tyrannis!!!! Ahhh...ee-eye-ohhhh...ahhh-ah-ahh... Bring it back...RE-IMPEACH...bring it back...then CONVICT... Bring it back...INDICT Slick...bring it back...then CONVICT... Oh now...oh now...oh now...YES, NOW...oh now...oh now...oh now... Bring it back...RE-IMPEACH...bring it back...then CONVICT...bring it back... Ooh now...ooh now...YES, NOW ooh... Ooh now...ooh now...YES, NOW SING IT!! Sing it...sing it...sing it...sing it...sing it...sing it........ Mudboy Slim BTW...7 October 2000...March For Liberty...Washington, DC (Lincoln Monument)...Be there if you still think this Country's worth Fightin' Fer!!! 1 Posted on 09/01/2000 Heh heh heh...you can't have a successful impeachment without...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #97. To: Morgana le Fay (#95) "I will pass on the picture of you playing with your snake." Heh heh heh...good morning, Miss le Fay...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #98. To: All, keep U.S. Sovereign (#96) keep U.S. Sovereign in BOLD kUSS: "I think that I Won’t Get Fooled Again is my motto since 96." What a coincidence, that's the basic theme of the parodied version as well...LOL!! "So.... you will forgive me.... if I slip in a...... Win Pat Win" No need fer forgiveness, GoPatGoers are ALWAYS welcomed on my threads!! I realize you believe that votin' fer Dub'yuh is "Gettin' Fooled Again" and considering Dub'yuh's Daddy, I remain skeptical myself. Still, I'm beginning to think that Pat was/is in on a great hoax--a historic hoax--in which he and the GOP conspired to destroy the Reform Party that elected Clinton in '92 and '96. Call me a "K.O.O.K." but Pat's gonna pull more Union support than he is "True Brigadiers" like yerself. The proof will be in the pudding, but don't be surprised to see Pat in the Bush Administration, perhaps dealing with Illegal Immigration or negotiating the revamped PNTR agreement--please note that the GOP has effectively $#!+-canned Clinton's version of PNTR--with the Chi-Coms!!! Utmost FReegards...MUD 20 Posted on 09/06/2000 14:56:07 PDT by Mudboy Slim (GoPatGo2000...Dub'yuh2001- 2009) Heh heh heh...I'm a man of my word...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   9:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #99. To: Mudboy Slim (#94) these days, folks will spend ten bucks to see two dogs gettin' it on...MUD I'm not interested in your taste in porn, Slim. But you do have a point, nonetheless. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   10:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #100. To: continental op (#99) "...your taste in porn" Heh heh heh...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   10:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #101. To: continental op, Neil McIver, A K A Stone, JHoffa_, SMOKESCREEN, unamused, ferret mike, war, TLBSHOW, Fred Mertz (#98) "...GoPatGoers are ALWAYS welcomed on my threads!! I realize you believe that votin' fer Dub'yuh is "Gettin' Fooled Again" and considering Dub'yuh's Daddy, I remain skeptical myself. Still, I'm beginning to think that Pat was/is in on a great hoax--a historic hoax--in which he and the GOP conspired to destroy the Reform Party that elected Clinton in '92 and '96. Call me a "K.O.O.K." but Pat's gonna pull more Union support than he is "True Brigadiers" like yerself. The proof will be in the pudding, but don't be surprised to see Pat in the Bush Administration, perhaps dealing with Illegal Immigration or negotiating the revamped PNTR agreement--please note that the GOP has effectively $#!+-canned Clinton's version of PNTR--with the Chi-Coms!!!" Utmost FReegards...MUD (09/06/2000) Alright, show of hands...which of y'all were BuchananBrigadiers/Pitchforkers? When and why? Regards...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   10:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #102. To: Mudboy Slim (#101) Have you no shame? If I were you, I'd be ashamed to talk of past elections. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   13:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #103. To: continental op (#102) "Have you no shame?" Nope...none...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   14:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #104. To: continental op (#102) BTW...you don't need to answer, it's beyond obvious that you were a GoPatGoer, imho...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   14:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #105. To: Mudboy Slim (#104) Voted for Bush in 2000 and Badnarik in '04. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   14:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #106. To: continental op (#105) Were you at TOS during the infamous Bush v. Buchanan Bloodbath of 2000? I was a ForbesFanatic, so I took it from both sides...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   15:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #107. To: continental op (#102) "I'd be ashamed to talk of past elections." At the Presidential level, I've voted every time I've been eligible and my scorecard reads...Reagan/Bush/Bush/Dole/Bush/Bush...LOL!! I can honestly say I don't see any way I can ever vote for another Bush fer POTUS!! Dude's gotta have his limits...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   15:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #108. To: Mudboy Slim (#106) Were you at TOS during the infamous Bush v. Buchanan Bloodbath of 2000? No. I have always, throughout my posting career, looked down on freepers. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-11   15:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #109. To: Mudboy Slim (#101) Alright, show of hands...which of y'all were BuchananBrigadiers/Pitchforkers? When and why? Regards...MUD I was a Buchanan supporter. Because he told it like it was. To a point anyways. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-11   19:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #110. To: continental op (#108) "I have always, throughout my posting career, looked down on freepers." As we have looked down upon you, my dirtball friend...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   22:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #111. To: A K A Stone (#109) "I was a Buchanan supporter. Because he told it like it was." I've always liked Pat...never met him, but I respect the guy. At one point he almost had me in 2000. In some speech that Rush aired on the EIB, Pat said his first action as President would be as he stood on the dias taking his oath, he'd look over at Slick Willie and say, "You have the right to be silent..." BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! I was hooked!! Pat was my guy!! Well, that was on a Friday...and on Sunday, Pat was Russert's guest and Russert played the same bite that Limbaugh played, and Pat was asked to comment...Buchanan laughed a hearty laugh and said something to the effect that it was just some red meat he was tossing to his more rabid followeres, but he wouldn't really make getting justice fer Clinton a priority. He lost me immediately. I like him...I respect him...but I don't see where I'd ever vote fer the man...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-11   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #112. To: Mudboy Slim (#111) YOU are what's wrong with this country. Buchanan was too good for America. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-12   7:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #113. To: continental op (#112) good morning ponchy! don't forget to take your meds! Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-12   8:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #114. To: Mudboy Slim (#111) I've always liked Pat...never met him I met him at the Solid Rock church off of interstate 75. Shook his hands. You commented on him throwing out red meat. What has your hero Bush done about Clintons crimes. Nothing at all. All that asshole facist Bush did was top all of clintons crimes and take away the title of WORSE President in history. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-12   8:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #115. To: A K A Stone (#114) "What has your hero Bush done about Clintons crimes. Nothing at all." Exactly...I'm no more a Bushbot than you are a RATbot, Mr. Stone, so you can take that "hero Bush" KRAP and stick it. "All that asshole facist Bush did was top all of clintons crimes and take away the title of WORSE President in history." BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Poppycock and balderdash...just in my lifetime, LBJ, Carter, and Clinton were far worse than Dubyuh...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-14   10:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #116. To: continental op, buckeroo (#112) "YOU are what's wrong with this country." ROFLMAO!! Now you sound like Bucky, pencil-dick...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-14   10:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #117. To: A K A Stone (#114) "Black's Tragic Wisdom!!" (To be sung to Santana's "Black Magic Woman") Got that Black tragic wisdom... Trust the facts and good reason... Right's gotta stand up fer FReedom!! Help US to fight fer the FRee!! RAT-freaks are whacked, tragic figures... Left's tryin' to stake the heart of Liberty!! Folks, turn the RATS outta DeeCee!! BureaucRATS outta DeeCee!! Left, don't turn yer back on SlimShady... MUD's messin' 'round with yer heads!! Folks, turn the RATS outta DeeCee!! Do what's Right, stand up proud, Dittoheads!! Give 'em hell, Reagan babies!! Give Left hell, Limbaugh babies!! Yes, Rush gots a spell on US, Nation... Turning our spines into steel!! I FReep 'gainst the RATS' tragic lessons MUD shan't let RATbots be!! Mudboy Slim (12 May 2006) Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-14   13:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #118. To: Mudboy Slim (#116) Buckeroo is a great American, Slim. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-14   14:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #119. To: continental op (#118) Whatever. Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-14   14:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #120. To: Mudboy Slim (#119) And you're a mentally supressed, bougiouse swine. I just thought I'd mention it. Free David Irving!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Gotovina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free Eric Rudolph!!!!!!!!!!!!!! continental op  posted on  2006-05-14   14:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #121. To: continental op (#120) "RAT-freaks are whacked, tragic figures... Left's tryin' to stake the heart of Liberty!!" And you GoPatGo OnePercenters are as irrelevent as ever...MUD Right Since Birth!! Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-14   18:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #122. To: Morgana le Fay (#16) "'ponchy' is short for 'pontius' Heh heh heh... Thanks fer the clarification, Madame le Fay...MUD "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-12-18   8:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #123. To: Morgana le Fay, continental op, Jethro Tull, Dakmar (#48) #48. To: continental op (#47) "Let me put it this way, I'm younger than Tull and Dakmar. And yes, it is very noticeable." "wow, you seem so old and grouchy. find out what tull and dakmar do and copy it." OUCH!! Young lady, that hadta hurt ol' con-op to the core...MUD BTW...heh heh heh. "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-12-18   9:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #124. To: Jhoffa_ (#55) "I'm very monogamous with regard to the few.. Well, then again, maybe I am a forum tart" Well then, Jimmy, why don't you come out and play with us no more? Either here or on FU.org, yer participation would be appreciated...MUD "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-12-18   9:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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