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Title: Russia to set up military base in the Caribbean
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Tass
URL Source: http://tass.com/pressreview/1035596 ... KcJIhtgkImQl5fL2DFIspzm1Y0SwBE
Published: Dec 26, 2018
Author: Tass
Post Date: 2018-12-26 11:17:53 by Willie Green
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Views: 2536
Comments: 20
Moscow is gearing up to establish a long-term military presence in Latin America and the current mission of the Tu-160 strategic bombers to Venezuela is part of this plan, Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes. According to military envoys, Russian authorities have made a decision (and Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro did not object) to deploy strategic aircraft to one of Venezuela’s islands in the Caribbean Sea, which has a naval base and a military airfield. Ten years ago, Russian experts and Armed Forces commanders had already visited the island of La Orchila, located 200 kilometers northeast of Caracas. Venezuelan laws prohibit the setup of military bases in the country, but a temporary deployment of warplanes is possible. "It is the right idea to include Venezuela in long-range aviation missions," military expert Colonel Shamil Gareyev told the newspaper, adding that it was also economically reasonable. "Our strategic bombers will not only not have to return to Russia every time, but also won't perform aerial refueling while on a patrol mission in the Americas. Our Tu-160 aircraft arrive to their base in Venezuela, conduct flights, execute their missions and are then replaced on a rotating basis. This is how it should be done," he said. Colonel Eduard Rodyukov, a Corresponding Member of the Academy of Military Sciences, in turn, told Nezavisimaya Gazeta that "the arrival of Russia’s Tu-160 strategic bombers to Central America is kind of a signal to Trump to make him realize that abandoning nuclear disarmament treaties will have a boomerang effect." According to Kommersant’s sources in Russian military management agencies, the Russian-Venezuelan agreement on the flight of two Tu-160 strategic bombers is mutually beneficial, since Caracas got a chance to exhibit its independent military policy and Russian pilots performed not just a simple training flight but covered a distance of more than 10,000 kilometers over the Atlantic Ocean, the Barents, the Norwegian and the Caribbean Seas. We are clearly helping the Venezuelan government stay afloat, Research Fellow at the Institute of Latin American Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences Emil Dabagyan told Kommersant. "Since Russia benefits from oil exploration, it wants the Venezuelan regime to stay in place," he added. As for Caracas, joint military drills with Russia and other activities of this kind are very important for it at the moment. According to the expert, Venezuelan authorities "seek to show their determination to protect the country from the potential aggression of the United States, who has been labeling the Maduro regime as illegitimate."
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
Maduro has unleashed highly destructive economic policies upon the Venezuelan people rising to what I consider a crime against humanity. I've seen evidence of this first hand. If the above is Russia's actual position on Venezuela, then Russia is clearly advocating, though perhaps not facilitating, the regime of Maduro. And if Maduro was removed and an alternate gov installed, nothing is to say they could not still be a Russian ally if that is what they want. I suppose though that the official position is simply to score political points with Maduro. I suppose also there's something to be said for Russia simply adhering to George Washington's principle of being an enemy and ally to no one.
What's a 'Monroe Doctrine?'
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
Manifest Destiny, a crackpot policy that intervention is your destiny. A neocon wet dream, forever wars. George Washington warned us to avoid foreign entanglements but the Bush/Hillary/Trump wing of the party are nuts, psycho chicken hawks.
What's your solution? Shoot down the Russians? Invade Venesuela? Seriously, what's your solution? Sovereign countries can let other countries land warplanes at their bases. It's their call, not ours. What do you want Trump to do, exactly? Start World War III over a couple of airplanes? Seriously.
How many military did Gay Johnson or Chuck Baldwin remove from the Middle East? As many as Trump is doing now? Everyone you’ve supported has done SHIT for this country. HAAAAAA
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Where are the pictures of the troops getting off planes, and being welcomed home by their families? No pics, it ain't happening!
Seriously do you think this is a PR exercise
A blockade worked for JFK... but considering Putin's annexation of Crimea, yeah, I'd blast his ass out of the Venezuelan skies in a heartbeat... Seriously... Fuck Putin... I see this as no risk of WW-III... Putin only pulls this shit with Trump because he knows Trump is a blowhard pansy who will let Putin get away with it... But Putin would never pull this shit on someone who's willing to kick him square in the balls at the slightest provocation....
You coming from the faggot baby killer party makes you irrelevant when talking morals. You wouldn't kick anyone in the balls. You are a pussy who wont even stand up for right when your party practices infanticide on Americas progeny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... as if you have any idea wtf you're ranting about...
The blockade didn't work all that well for JFK, actually. Exhibit A: Cuba, STILL RULED BY A CASTRO. Also, the Soviets were installing missiles in Cuba. Here, they're flying in planes and turning them around. It's a stopover, not a permanent base. Cuba was an enemy state. Venezuela is just kind of an unpleasant mess. Shooting down Russian airplanes because...what is the cause of war here? They flew to a third country to which they have the right to fly? What kind of madness is this? NEWSFLASH! The US is ALSO subject to basic international law, and blowing airplanes out of the sky when there's no declared war on is an illegal act of war. Seriously, to even think of doing anything like that any leader of the US or any civilized country would be out of his mind. The Russians annoy us. That doesn't give us license to start shooting down their warplanes and killing their pilots. That's insane.
No, seriously, let's keep this in perspective. Russia and the United States cooperate on a great number of things. For example: the Russians and US have a joint space program for manning the International Space Station. We don't have a space shuttle anymore. We ride their rockets. Our commanders lead them, and their commanders lead us, depending on who is in charge at a given time. We ANNOY each other, Russians and Americans, down here on earth, but we're NOT ENEMIES. We're not in a state of Cold War. Some folks on the Intelligence and Military Right WANT TO BE in one, but we're not. And the American people don't WANT to be either - that's why we elected Trump, that's why Mattis and Kelly are out at the White House. We're not going to war with Russia. We don't want to. It would be stupidity incarnate, and very much against our interests. In fact, we have peaceful cooperation with Russia at the highest scientific levels: we jointly run a space program together. Come on. You know, it annoys the Canadians when we go supersonic too close to inhabited areas and rattle windows. At it really annoys Italians when American pilots go hotdogging around ski resorts and distract people and sometimes touch off snowslides. A few years back one of those flights accidentally cut a cable and killed a bunch of people in a ski cable car. Doesn't mean that Italy or Canada are going to pull out of the alliance. Seriously COME ON, why do you want a war with Russia? We're BROKE. They're not doing better than us. Can we just lay off each other and tend our own gardens? Yes, we can, and yes, that is exactly what we're doing, and are going to keep doing, despite the contrary of opinions of the now-retired Mattis and Kelly, or yahoos who want to renew the Cold War, as if that was such a great thing. Nobody sane wants to go back to that. Come on - THINK!
Wrong-O President Monroe, and Congress, edicted that all foreign powers were to stay out of this hemisphere. Better enforce igt.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
US jurisdiction ends at the US borders, it's interventionism. Foreign meddling, just what George Washington warned us against.
Castro without Russian missiles... blockade worked well, Kruschev turned tail & left. Violation of the Monroe Doctrine... If Putin doesn't want his balls kicked, he can fly his planes back to Moscow...
James Madison was Washington's contemporary and he, George that is, said nothing against the doctrine.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
Well, Okay. Perhaps I'll walk it back a bit. Thanks to the idiot Kennedy brothers a secret promise was made to the old soviet union that if they removed their missiles from Cuber, we'd not ever attack it again. How stupid.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
Monroe Doctrine isn't a treaty, and isn't legal. The Sea of Okhotsk is essentially a Russian inland lake. We made a point, in the day, of asserting freedom of navigation by sailing around in there with our fleet. This angered the Russians. If the Russians have some doctrine of theirs about the Sea of O, and start hosing off missiles at our ships and planes because we break some self-imposed doctrine of theirs, they're going to start World War III. Ditto if we do it.
"Since Russia benefits from oil exploration, it wants the Venezuelan regime to stay in place,"
#2. To: Willie Green (#0)
#3. To: IbJensen, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars*, neocon psychos (#2)
What's a 'Monroe Doctrine?'
#4. To: Willie Green (#0)
#5. To: hondo68 (#3)
#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)
As many as Trump is doing now?
#7. To: hondo68 (#6)
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
Seriously, what's your solution? Sovereign countries can let other countries land warplanes at their bases.
#9. To: Willie Green (#8)
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#10. To: Willie Green (#8)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)
You coming from the faggot baby killer party makes...
#12. To: Willie Green (#8)
A blockade worked for JFK... but considering Putin's annexation of Crimea, yeah, I'd blast his ass out of the Venezuelan skies in a heartbeat... Seriously... Fuck Putin... I see this as no risk of WW-III...
#13. To: All (#12)
#14. To: hondo68 (#3)
Manifest Destiny, a crackpot policy that intervention is your destiny.
#15. To: IbJensen, interventinist, warmongering neocon (#14)
all foreign powers were to stay out of this hemisphere
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
Exhibit A: Cuba, STILL RULED BY A CASTRO.
Shooting down Russian airplanes because...what is the cause of war here?
#17. To: hondo68 (#15)
Foreign meddling, just what George Washington warned us against.
"Speak softly (in English) & carry a BIG stick..."
~ Teddy Roosevelt (who kicked Spain's ass on San Juan Hill in Cuba)
#18. To: hondo68 (#15)
#19. To: hondo68 (#15)
#20. To: Willie Green (#16)
Violation of the Monroe Doctrine...
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