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Title: Trump Supporters Silent as President More Successful at Attacking 2nd Amendment Than Obama
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/trump-ban-2nd-amendment/
Published: Dec 20, 2018
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2018-12-21 08:21:42 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1570
Comments: 11

(TAC) — Just as some gun rights groups flip-flop on protecting the right to keep and bear arms from federal encroachment, so has Republican President Donald Trump. Not only has he ramped up federal gun control enforcement, but he has unilaterally implemented new federal gun control in the form of a bump stock ban.

As we’ve pointed before, the effectiveness of this policy is moot: the feds have no constitutional authority to restrict firearms.

It’s important to keep in mind that this isn’t merely something occurring under Trump’s watch but out of his control. The president actively pursued an unconstitutional firearm restriction through an unconstitutional method via agency rulemaking. If the constitution did not delegate authority to the Congress or the president to enact such a rule – and the Second Amendment makes that adamantly clear – then obviously a bureaucracy has no such power, either.

Before Trump supporters turn a blind eye to this or rationalize his actions, they should honestly ask themselves how they would respond if Obama tried to do the same thing.

Oh, wait. He essentially did.

In 2015, President Obama directed the ATF to pursue a possible ban on the M855 cartridge. To do so, they released a proposed agency rule which redefined M855 “green tip” ammunition as “armor piercing” to qualify it for federal prohibition under the 1968 Gun Control Act (GCA).

Ostensibly, the rule was meant to curb police deaths, but many gun rights advocates rightly pointed out that it was likely a thinly-veiled effort to undermine civilian access to AR-15s. The National Rifle Association reports that the “ban was opposed by law enforcement experts238 members of the U.S. House of Representatives, 53 U.S. senators, 80,000 Americans who submitted comments to ATF, and the NRA.”

Thankfully, though, the M855 cartridge ban ultimately failed.

When Obama was doing it, unilaterally changing agency rules to ban a certain kind of ammunition was seen as “back-door gun control.” It was an egregious executive overreach. It was a foot in the door that would lead to more and more federal gun control.

People who said this were right.

Now, the Trump administration is using essentially the same process to ban bump stocks, using redefinition of terms and changing agency rules to make the President’s preferred gun control effort fit within current federal law on the books.

In the end, NRA-backed Trump succeeded in a way Obama could not: adding another major violation of our right to keep and bear arms onto the books that is unlikely to ever be repealed.

If you ever needed an example of why we can’t trust anyone in D.C. to protect our gun rights, this is it.

The only way forward is for states to pass anti-commandeering laws that withhold critical state resources and personnel from the feds.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Yawn. No one cares about a device that makes you less accurate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-12-21   8:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

When Obama was doing it, unilaterally changing agency rules to ban a certain kind of ammunition was seen as “back-door gun control.” It was an egregious executive overreach. It was a foot in the door that would lead to more and more federal gun control.

Now Trump does the same thing and you cheer.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-12-21   8:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

No one cares about a device that makes you less accurate.

Attaboy!!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-12-21   8:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#0)

To do so, they released a proposed agency rule which redefined M855 “green tip” ammunition as “armor piercing”

Your run-of-the-mill, .223, 55gr, FMJ will penetrate 1/4 inch steel. The reason the M855 “green tip” ammunition wasn't banned is that the hysterical claims against it were bullshit.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-12-21   10:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

Like I said before change the automatic weapons band. The bumbstock was an attempt to get around the automatic weapons band. I have no problem with the bumpstock band because in my opinion it turned a semiauto into a fullauto. I also do not have a problem with repealing the autoband.

Stop your whinnying. This is a loser argument and makes you look pathetic!

Justified  posted on  2018-12-21   12:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#5)

The bumbstock was an attempt to get around the automatic weapons band. I have no problem with the bumpstock band because in my opinion it turned a semiauto into a fullauto.

A bump stock doesn't magically turn a semi-automatic rifle into a machine gun.

The NFA defines a machine gun as "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger."

A bump stock harnesses recoil energy to make a rifle slide back after it is fired, resetting the trigger. If the shooter maintains forward pressure on the barrel, the trigger will bump against his stationary finger, causing the gun to fire again, and so on.

This technique increases the rate of fire, but the rifle is still shooting just one round for each function of the trigger.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-12-21   13:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

You pull the trigger once it doesn't stop shooting until you remove finger off the trigger or run out of ammo. It turns semiauto to an automatic. Why is It so hard to accept facts?

This is a loser argument. You do all of us on the pro 2nd amendment side a disservice and make it harder to fight Regressives hell bent on killing the 2nd amendment flat out.

Justified  posted on  2018-12-21   13:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Justified (#7)

You pull the trigger once it doesn't stop shooting until you remove finger off the trigger or run out of ammo.

This technique increases the rate of fire, but the rifle is still shooting just one round for each function of the trigger.

This is a loser argument. You do all of us on the pro 2nd amendment side a disservice ...

If Obama had pulled a stunt like this or said the words, "take the guns first, go through due process second", you'd scream bloody murder - when Trump does it, he's protecting the 2nd amendment.

At least according to you cultists.

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-12-21   17:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#8)

Name me just ONE person you supported for president that wrote, supported or did one fucking thing to protect or defend the 2nd amendment, in the last 20 years. Just one!

That’s what I thought... you do nothing but complain about the (R)’s, stay silent about the (D)’s... and brag about what your presidential choice MIGHT HAVE DONE.

lol. Fuck off, junior.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-12-21   17:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard, Cult of NYC Trumpkin libtards (#8)

according to you cultists.

Cultist bump!

It's all OK when Donny Trumpkin does it, F' the rule of law and US Constitution, 2A. /s


Hondo68  posted on  2018-12-21   17:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#8)

You pull the trigger once it doesn't stop shooting until you remove finger off the trigger or run out of ammo.

This technique increases the rate of fire, but the rifle is still shooting just one round for each function of the trigger.

You pull the trigger and it will not stop shooting until you remove it. This trick was a way to get around the autoband. Im sorry but it converts a semiauto into a fullauto. Twist things any way that makes you feel good but it was doomed from the start and anyone that is honest knows it.

You are wasting ammo on a dead carcass. Why?

This all about I hate Trump and want to bash him every chance I get. That is what this is all about. Just like the left bash Trump for leaving Syria. Also people on the right who opposed Syria intervention now bashing Trump for leaving Syria. It shows peoples colors!

Justified  posted on  2018-12-22   16:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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