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Title: Pope Francis Implementing Change Of Lord’s Prayer: ‘Lead Us Not Into Temptation’
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Daily Wire
URL Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/3922 ... ge-lords-prayer-lead-paul-bois
Published: Dec 11, 2018
Author: Paul Bois
Post Date: 2018-12-11 10:19:45 by IbJensen
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(Phony pope, Bergoglio.) The Vatican under Pope Francis will soon be implementing a change to the Lord's Prayer, also known as the Pater Noster, switching out the line "lead us not into temptation" for the Francis-approved "abandon us not into temptation." According to the U.K.'s Express, the change to the Lord's Prayer comes after 16 years of research by experts who found a mistake in the current translation "from a theological, pastoral and stylistic viewpoint." It has been translated into literally hundreds of languages from the original texts in ancient Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. Last year around Christmas, Pope Francis spoke of his desire to update the "lead us not into temptation" part of the Lord's Prayer, arguing that it portrays God in a false light. "A father does not lead into temptation, a father helps you to get up immediately," the Pope said at the time. "It is not a good translation because it speaks of a God who induces temptation," he added. Pope Francis also asserted that other translations had already been changed to correct mistakes and to modernize the language. "The French have modified the prayer to ‘do not let me fall into temptation’, because it is me who falls, not the Lord who tempts me to then see how I fall," he said. The Daily Wire's Michael Knowles explored why the original translation may actually be the correct one by adhering to the ancient Greek word peirasmos: While peirasmos, the word for “temptation” in Ancient Greek, may be open to alternate interpretations, who precisely does the leading is not. Peirasmos connotes not only “temptation” but also “trial” and “testing,” as in "to test one’s mettle.” It is in all of these senses, two paragraphs before St. Matthew relates the prayer, that Jesus is “led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be [tempted/tested] by the Devil.” In both cases, while the Devil does the tempting, God leads the way to the trial. Just why God might lead his faithful into temptation or testing poses a difficult theology question if not an outright mystery. Defenders of the apparent change say that the new language simply switches out the literal translations so that modern ears may not get the wrong impression. Jimmy Akin argued at National Catholic Register that the current translation already has a change from the original Greek text, so Pope Francis is actually doing nothing radical, as others have asserted: The previous petition in the standard Catholic version reads “and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” That’s not what the Greek literally says. It says, 'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors' (Matt. 6:12). Debts are a Semitic metaphor for sins, and the English translators have rendered this non-literally as 'trespasses' to make the concept clearer to English-speakers. Luke did the same thing for Greek-speakers in his version of the Lord’s Prayer, where this petition reads, 'and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive every one who is indebted to us' (Luke 11:4). Spanish-speaking Catholics have already seen a change to the Lord's Prayer; the line 'forgive us our trespasses' to 'forgive us our mistakes.' A representative from the Episcopal Conference said that new publication of the Pater Noster will "renew the ecclesiastic community." "The Bishops intend for the publication of the new edition to be an opportunity to help renew the ecclesiastic community," said the rep, reports Express. "Liturgical reforms are just a starting point. The renewal shall include ordained ministers, as well as the believers." "Developments like these are becoming increasingly crucial in the process of Christian initiation, in workshops and in proposals for the permanent training of the clergy," the rep added.
Poster Comment: A change here, a change there. What does it all matter to the now meaningless Roman Catholic New Age Religion? THIS is what is important to Francis....NOT CLEANING OUT THE CORRUPTION THAT IS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT BEGAN WITH THE EVIL VATICAN II THAT EVENTUALLY CREATED AN ENTIRELY NEW RELIGION THAT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH GOD.
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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)
Question of the day. Who said this? "Would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope do you think he's a fool?"
Who said what? The pope is just another agnostic fool following those popes subsequent to Vatican II who completely ruined God's Church on earth by converting it to secular humanism.
The Catholic church was never God's Church on Earth. There is no Pope in the Bible
The line from Peter, at least up until Vatican II, was unbroken ever since Jesus Christ said "upon this rock (Peter) I will build my Church........"
The rock was Peter's assertion that Jesus is the Messiah, not Peter himself otherwise he could not have called Peter a stumbling block 3 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” 14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. 21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. 22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!” 23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
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#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)
Who said this?
#3. To: IbJensen (#2)
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