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Title: MSU Professor & US Secretary Of Housing Disclose Reality Of The Black Budget & Extraterrestrials
Source: Collective Evolution
URL Source: https://www.collective-evolution.co ... lack-budget-extraterrestrials/
Published: Nov 12, 2018
Author: Arjun WaliaCE Staff Writer
Post Date: 2018-11-26 09:50:31 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 381
Comments: 25

The Facts:

A Michigan State University economist teamed up with multiple researchers, including Catherine Austin Fitts, former assistant secretary of Housing and Urban Development and they found trillions of unaccounted for dollars missing from housing & D.O.D

  • Reflect On:

    Do we really live in a world with honest government transparency? How can we claim to be living in a democracy when trillions of dollars are being spent on projects that nobody has any idea about? What is going on here?

The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. There is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. – JFK

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If you suggested to someone a decade ago that secrecy dominates our world, and that transparency on a larger scale really doesn’t exist at all, not many would take you seriously. We, the public, have been kept inside a bubble, and outside that bubble exists a “breakaway civilization,” a term coined by author and historian Richard Dolan to describe the vast amount of knowledge in the form of science, technology, history, etc that’s been amassed by the military industrial complex.

Everything in this area is simply deemed “classified,” receiving absolutely no oversight from Congress. They’re referred to as deep black projects that in 2008 ex-Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer described as projects that the “Commander in Chief has no idea about.”

This information is now coming to light, and it received even more attention when last year, a Michigan State University economist, working with one former government official and multiple graduate students discovered that $21 trillion of “unauthorized” spending had occurred within the Department of Defense and Housing and Urban Development. This is only for the years 1998-2015

For their research, the team used several government websites and made inquiries to multiple U.S. agencies. Much of the time they received no response and the Office of the Inspector General even disabled links to all key documents that revealed unsupported spending, according to the team.

Unfortunately for them, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents, and thus they made their way into the public domain. Regardless, many people still haven’t heard about it.

The name of the Economist from Michigan State is Mark Skidmore. He was sparked to do something when Catherine Austin Fitts, former assistant secretary of Housing and Urban Development (where all the missing money is from, including the D.O.D)  referred to a report that indicated the Army had $6.5 trillion in unsupported adjustments and spending, in the 2015 fiscal year.

Given the Army’s $122 billion budget, that meant unsupported adjustments were 54 times spending authorized by Congress. Typically, such adjustments in public budgets are only a small fraction of authorized spending….Skidmore thought Fitts had made a mistake. “Maybe she meant $6.5 billion and not $6.5 trillion,” he said. “So I found the report myself and sure enough it was $6.5 trillion.” (source)

Fitts was one of the people involved with Skidmore’s research, they worked together, and found documents indicating a total of $20 trillion of undocumented adjustments had been made, from 1998 t0 2015, as mentioned above. The original government documents and a report describing the issue can be found here.)

They also recently provided an update, as when this information went public, the Pentagon claimed that they were going to do an internal audit.

Update As of September 2018

Several months after beginning the audit, recommendations of the Federal Accounting Standards Board were accepted by the government which stopped the process. https://fas.org/sgp/news/2018/07/fasab-review.pdf (see page 3 for a summary).

Fitts explains how “the statement allows government officials to misstate and move funds around to hide expenditures if it is deemed necessary for national security purposes, and the rule applies to all agencies, not just the black budget.” She then shares an excerpt from the report:

This Statement permits modifications that do not affect the net results of operations or net position. In addition, this Statement allows a component reporting entity to be excluded from one reporting entity and consolidated into another reporting entity, and the effect of the modification may change the net results of operations and/or net position.

Fitts then makes another point that needs to be emphasized, one that I’ve been writing about for years, and it’s the fact that only a few people with high-level security clearances have the authority to determine what exactly a national security issue is. These days, there is so much secrecy in our world that ‘national security’ has simply become a term used to justify extreme and unethical secrecy. This secrecy ultimately benefits a select powerful few, and keeps the dollars rolling into their pockets.

No one but these few people would ever know that expenditures on activity A are hiding in a completely different area of government. What good is an independent audit if authorities are allowed to move expenditures around with no transparency? How can one conduct an evaluation of any portion of the federal budget under such an arrangement? How is this policy in compliance with financial reporting laws or Constitutional requirements for reporting on government spending to the citizens of the United States? -Fitts explains.

In a December. 8th 2017 Forbes column, MSUs Skidmore co-authored with Laurence Kotlikoff, Skidmore said the “gargantuan nature” of the undocumented federal spending “should be a great concern to all taxpayers.”

Taken together these reports point to a failure to comply with basic constitutional and legislative requirements for spending and disclosure,” the column concludes. “We urge the House and Senate Budget Committee to initiate immediate investigations of unaccounted federal expenditures as well as the source of their payment.

Our tax dollars and the level to which we are taxed are going towards black budget programs, that cost far more than our roads and services. If this information was made transparent and open for discovery and use, it leaps all of humanity into the stars and beyond into new discovery and exploration. The implications are huge.

Extraterrestrials?

There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. – Senator Daniel Inouye (source)

Fitts has been outspoken on where this money has been going and has stated multiple times that during the investigations and through her work experience within the U.S. Housing and Urban Development sector, ‘Space’ issues were always involved when it came to finding out where this money was going.

It wasn’t long ago when the Pentagon publicly disclosed a ‘UFO ariel threat program’ it had been running, one that cost $22 million. Hal Puthoff, a member of To The Stars Academy, that was involved with this public disclosure from the Pentagon, has stated that it could be one of the multiple programs. You can read more about that here.

This information that was not aggressively disseminated by mainstream media, too much public attention on $21 trillion missing dollars starts to bring up questions about where this money is going.

Having been an avid researcher into the UFO phenomenon for more than a decade, I can tell you that a lot of it is going towards activities in space and other activities that are deemed classified for ‘national security’ purposes. One example I’ve written about before has been the reality of deep underground military bases, and deep under ocean military bases.

Fitts is one of many who has claimed that these black budget operations are being used to build a space economy, and that there is currently a war going on up there. A fight for economic domination between nations of Earth. This doesn’t sound too outlandish when you consider she is one of the multiple credible sources giving this type of interpretation. Sometimes, information like this can be too much for us to handle, at other times it is purposely subjected to ridicule and official smears campaigns to bring less credibility to the topic.

Corporations are currently dominating space. Let’s not forget about Garry Mckinnon, who performed the largest ever military computer hack in human history. This made global headlines, it was too big to conceal, and he gave a telling interview before he was arrested claiming that he found multiple pictures of UFO’s and lists of “off world officers” and “fleet to fleet” transfers. You can see a clip of his interview with Project Camelot’s Kerry Cassidy, here. This interview was conducted before it became public knowledge and before he was arrested for his hack. He hacked into Department of Defence and NASA systems, among others.

The evidence for a clandestine secret space program that is costing tax-payers trillions of dollars is backed up by undeniable evidence, yet it’s shrouded in secrecy, despite the fact that it hides in plain sight.

According to Fitts, we are not alone, this is known, and we too have an ever-growing presence in space. In an interview, she recently did with Dark Journalistshe talks about the Secret Space Program from a historical perspective. She explains how enormous amounts of resources were handed over to covert operations to develop a security system of finance. This then created the CIA and a select group of people who were in charge of UFO technology. “By the time JFK came into office ready to challenge this shadow government and make space program the centrepiece of his administration, the civil war between the Deep State and the public state was in full force.”

Robert Bigelow, CEO of Bigelow Aerospace revealed knowledge of an extraterrestrial earlier this year.

The important thing to remember here is that the UFO phenomenon and extraterrestrial hypothesis have, in my opinion, enormous amounts of credibility and evidence behind them. We’ve been writing about the topic since CE was founded in 2009, you can visit the disclosure section of our website to sift through those articles for more information.

Below is one of the last interviews she did:

A Little More On The Black Budget

Did we really need this leak in order to believe that black budget programs operate in secrecy? No, many people will tell you that the existence of black budget programs was obvious and that we didn’t need any official documentation to prove it, but this still helps. The United States has a history of government agencies existing in secret for years. The National Security Agency (NSA) was founded in 1952, its existence was hidden until the mid-1960’s. Even more secretive is the National Reconnaissance Office, which was founded in 1960 but remained completely secret for 30 years.

We are talking about Special Access Programs (SAP). From these, we have unacknowledged and waived SAPs. These programs do not exist publicly, but they do indeed exist. They are better known as ‘deep black programs.’ A 1997 US Senate report described them as “so sensitive that they are exempt from standard reporting requirements to the Congress.” (source).

The Washington Post revealed that the “black budget” documents report a staggering 52.6 billion dollars that were set aside for operations in the fiscal year 2013. Although it’s great to have this type of documentation in the public domain proving the existence of these black budget programs, the numbers seem to be off according to some statements made by some very prominent people who have been involved in the defence sector for years. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that these programs are not using billions of dollars, but trillions of dollars that are unaccounted for. Here is a statement was given by Canada’s former Minister of National Defence, Paul Hellyer in 2008:

It is ironic that the U.S. would begin a devastating war, allegedly in search of weapons of mass destruction when the most worrisome developments in this field are occurring in your own backyard.  It is ironic that the U.S. should be fighting monstrously expensive wars  allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on projects which both congress and the commander in chief no nothing about(source)

Rumsfeld also admitted that 2.8 trillion could not be accounted for. On July 16, 2001, in front of the house appropriations committee, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld stated:

The financial systems of the department of defence are so snarled up that we can’t account for some $2.6 trillion in transactions that exist, if that’s believable (source)

It turns out he lied, and it was a heck of a lot more, and probably even far greater than $21 trillion dollars…

Yes there have been crashed craft, and bodies recovered.

The Takeaway

The takeaway here is to realize that our world is plagued with secrecy, but at the same time, with so many whistleblowers, leaks and investigations, that secrecy is going away. It’s all there for one to see, it’s not really “secret” as it is simply, unacknowledged. That being said, there is clearly a lot we don’t know including just how far this world of secrecy has advanced. One thing is for certain, it has gone off the planet. We may not know who entirely is involved, but if you follow the money, that’s probably your best bet.

At the end of the day, the lid is being blown off, and secrecy cannot last. New discoveries await the human race, and information that is naturally our birthright to discover has been kept from us in the hands of those who clearly do not have the best interests of humanity at heart. The tides are turning.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Space aliens do not exist.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-26   9:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Space aliens do not exist.

The only intelligent thing you have said in months.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-26   11:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

That's like saying that a Black Budget does not exist either when people like myself know they do. The black budget is a private financial system set up the the Pentagon, CIA and DIA. It is used for covert operations and for other operations that are top secret and not open for public disclosure. The people who know this are those who work in aeronautical fields for the DOD. I have several friends who worked in these fields that had higher clearances than George Bush Sr. One worked in signal intelligence and the other in human intelligence. The one who worked in signal intelligence advised me that should I ever come across those aliens or their craft, that I should run like hell away from them. They are not our friends.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-26   11:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: goldilucky (#3) (Edited)

So, you are saying that you personally know that space aliens exist? The only way you could know that was by encountering them. Do I understand you correctly, that you have encountered space aliens?

Or do you mean that black budget items exist? Of course they do. Intelligence can't put some of its operations and procurements on the visible budget, for obvious reasons.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-26   12:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

Yes, I personally know that those aliens exist. Encountered them several times and one that almost took me away in my dreamstate back in April of '93. They came right through the house and as I hid under the bed I crept out and they hovered right over me with a blue green beam that paralyzed me. All I could think about was praying to God to save me from them. Then, I woke up wondering if that was really a dream at all.

Yes, black project budgets do exist and have been for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_project

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-26   12:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: goldilucky (#5)

How many times did you encounter the aliens?

Where (just the state) was your house?

How old were you then?

Were you under the influence of any drugs or alcohol at the time?

Do you have a history of mental illness?

What did the aliens look like?

Did they communicate with you.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-26   13:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

You could ask all those same questions regarding you lizards and rats.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-26   14:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7) (Edited)

You could ask all those same questions regarding you lizards and rats.

Yes. And if asked by him, I would answer them all.

I am asking because I am interested in the answers, not because I am challenging the individual.

He may have talked to aliens. He may have talked to demons thinking they were aliens. He may be crazy. He may have been intoxicated. I have no way of knowing any of that without asking.

It's up to him whether he wants to answer.

The difference between me and you, Stone, is that I have experienced dramatic miracles and talked to God, so I know that it's possible he DID talk to aliens, or encountered something spiritual that he thought was an alien. Or he could have mental issues. I've looked into all of these things precisely because of the experiences I have had, and the need to discern things.

You start from the a priori that such things don't happen in real life and that the individuals are lying or crazy, so you would not ask questions seeking the truth: you think you already know it. I know that you don't, but you're very certain about a great many things, and wrong about them.

If he answers my questions, and if someone like him were to ask me the same questions about my experiences, I would be more than happy to answer him. I've got nothing to hide.

I would not answer you anymore - you've shown your colors and character. You don't like me, and I don't like you, so I've already shaken the dust of my shoes as far as trying to have meaningful, constructive, friendly conversation with you. You're simply an enemy, and there is nothing good for me in sharing more with an enemy, since you'll just try to use it in some future nasty, unhinged attack.

Him, I am interested in.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-26   15:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#6) (Edited)

I and a longtime friend of mine first encountered an alien craft back in 1989 coming back from Mission Hills, CA during the later part the night. Neither one of us did any drugs; we'd returned back from a bbq. He was in his late forties and I was in my early twenties. I preferred the much older crowd to hang out with.

Mental illness? Nope. Like I said, I saw the alien aircraft fly so swiftly over the 405 freeway and my friend also noticed it. He is no longer alive (passed away several years ago of liver problems).

In my post where I mentioned about the aircraft that went through the house, I never heard a sound. All I remember is that when it encountered me, I tried to run but it paralyzed me. The only thing I remember is that although I could not move, I remember praying to God to set me free of this thing. Then, I remember waking up. And when I woke up, it really did not seem like such a dream at all. No, they did not communicate with me nor I with them.

There is a site that is loaded with information about reportings of these kind. here is that link http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlCA.html as associated with http://www.nuforc.org

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-26   18:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

You also may want to check out this as well. Perhaps putting in an inquiry into the Pentagon may also help.

https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/exclusive-i-team-obtains-some-key-documents-related-to-pentagon-ufo-study/1324250087

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-26   21:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: goldilucky (#9)

Can you describe their appearance for me?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-26   21:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

You start from the a priori that such things don't happen in real life and that the individuals are lying or crazy,

I believe in miracles in this life. I don't believe with your so called miracles. I don't believe you talked to God. You just say stuff like that to make yourself seem special. To boast.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-26   22:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#11) (Edited)

In both case scenarios I mentioned neither did I ever see an alien being come out of their craft. What I saw in May 30, 1989 (memorial weekend) was a streak going across the sky that was so damn close to the freeway that my friend and I could not help but notice it. It was not a plane but some unknown craft that just bolted in front of us.

The other scenario I mentioned was in the April, 1993, dream where I had seen the craft hovering over me as I was trying to make haste from it. I did not see any alien being appear from that craft either. It hovered over me for what seemed a while and emitted a green, white and yellow hue onto me. There was no sound coming from it as it seemed to come from my window direction as I had watched it from my outside window. When I first saw this craft outside my window, there were three of them nearby a streetlight. Upon my seeing them, I immediately took for cover under the bed. As I remember peeking out from under the bed, I noticed this craft hovering above and that was when the beam of lights hit upon me. When I woke up, that was such a vivid account of it all that I have difficulty in believing it was a dream at all. It was too real.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-26   23:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#0)

About the only place I know of that isn't covered 24/7 by high quality cameras is where I take a dump. And I'm not 100% sure about that.

So where are all the hi-res UFO pics?

kenh  posted on  2018-11-27   3:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: goldilucky (#5) (Edited)

I personally know that those aliens exist. Encountered them several times and one that almost took me away in my dreamstate back in April of '93. They came right through the house and as I hid under the bed I crept out and they hovered right over me with a blue green beam that paralyzed me. All I could think about was praying to God to save me from them.

10 Reasons Why Aliens Are Actually Fallen Angels or Demons

  1. The aliens of our time match the demons and fallen angels mentioned in the Bible in terms of their behavior.
  2. Like the Bible predicts, aliens never affirm the deity of Christ nor do they claim to come in his name.
  3. Aliens change their stories to delude man into believing their lies. One example of this is that before man had been to outer space or sent satellites there, aliens would claim to be from planets such as Jupiter in our solar system. As time went on and man learned more about our planets, we realized that no one could live on a planet like Jupiter, so aliens changed their story. Now they claim to be from other solar systems and star clusters such as Andromeda and Pleiades.
  4. Though aliens are said to be advanced, it seems they need us for their survival just as fallen angels need human beings to prey on. There are various accounts of aliens taking tissue samples from humans, probing them, or impregnating women. This is the origin of the entities known as incubus and succubus.
  5. Alien abductions are stopped by invoking the name of Jesus.
  6. Aliens bring ideas to earth that will help man unite worldwide for a new era of consciousnesses. This uniting prepares the way for their leader (who is possibly the Antichrist) by making mankind forget their religion and loyalty to their countries.
  7. Aliens often contact "new-agers" and occultists, as opposed to Christians. This is not always the case since people from all walks of life have been contacted by "aliens." However, I believe that these "space brothers" are not too interested in contacting Christians. This is because Christians will be able to see through aliens' disguise and know them for what they are: demons.
  8. Aliens are not opposed to being worshipped by humans. They also deny their creator (God), claiming instead that they are Creators. This serves to draw man away from God.
  9. Aliens give man technology but these "advancements" are usually destructive. There are secret projects that many governments have in their budget which are usually for creating new weapons of war. Much of the technology for such weaponry is said to come from extraterrestrials. Why don't aliens ever give us life-saving technology?
  10. Aliens often emit horrible odors, such as sulfur. Some call this smell the stench of Hell since it is a sign of the eternal fire.

True Story of Nephilim, Fallen Angels, and Aliens

Calling on the name of Jesus stops abductions in progress

There have been only three methods proven effective in thwarting abduction attempts: righteous anger, strength of spirit, and calling on the name of Jesus in faith. The first two have been known to stop isolated abduction attempts, but cannot end the aliens' abduction efforts entirely. In these cases, the aliens simply appear in a new form, trying a new tactic.

Only by calling on the name of Jesus Christ in faith can abduction attempts be halted altogether. CE-4 (at: http://www.alienresistance.com) tells the story of a new Christian who found himself being the object of an abduction attempt.

He was lying in bed, kept wide awake by the barking dogs, when paralysis set in. He was unable to cry out. He could see nothing but a whitish gray, like a mist or fog, although he sensed someone or something was in his room. His wife didn't awaken. The next thing he knew, he was being levitated above his bed. He then had the sensation he was being suspended by what felt like a pole inserted into his rectum. By this time he was alive with terror, but he couldn't scream.

 

"I thought I was having a satanic experience, that the devil had gotten a hold of me and had shoved a pole up my rectum and was holding me up in the air. So helpless, I couldn't do anything. I said, 'Jesus, Jesus, help me!' or 'Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!' When I did, there was a feeling or a sound or something that my words had hurt whatever it was holding me up in the air on this pole. And I felt like it was withdrawn and I fell. I hit the bed, because it was like I was thrown back in bed. My wife woke up and asked me why I was jumping on the bed."

CE-4 has since uncovered thousands of similar experiences. Abductions can be permanently halted by one thing and one thing only: the name of Jesus. Now why would the name of a primitive holy man (which is what the aliens claim Jesus was) have any power whatsoever over super-advanced beings from other planets?

It should be pointed out that the name of Jesus alone, apart from faith on the part of the person calling on it, will not prevent abductions. There is a wonderful story in the New Testament (Acts 19:13–17) about some Jewish exorcists who tried to deliver a demon-possessed man by calling on the name of Jesus—but without embracing faith in Jesus for themselves. The demon-possessed man beat them up and sent them running.

This is another conclusive argument, it seems to me, in and of itself. The only thing that seems to have power against these malicious abductors is faith in the name of Jesus. A cursory look at the New Testament will reveal the same phenomenon. Wherever Jesus went, demons were banished. Today, in whatever heart Jesus lives, demons are absent. (Again, the CE-4 discussion of this is most revealing.) Later I discuss the similarities between alien abduction stories and demonic possession.

Like demons in the New Testament, aliens in the 21st century fear the name of Jesus.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-11-27   6:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: goldilucky (#13)

Thanks for those accounts. Very interesting.

People are not nice to people who recount such things, so I appreciate your willingness to do so.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-27   6:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#12)

I believe in miracles in this life. I don't believe with your so called miracles. I don't believe you talked to God. You just say stuff like that to make yourself seem special. To boast.

To boast to whom? You?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-27   9:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

Yes to me and others. You have said on more than one occasion you must be special because God raised some f****** rat for you. So no I don't believe you and you can't find anyone else who does either. If you had simply said that you were healed by God that I might have believed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-27   10:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

I am indeed special.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-27   21:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#15)

I remember reading up on this and it's very interesting. Thank you for reminding me.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-28   2:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

"People are not nice to people who recount such things,..."

Why is that?

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-28   2:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: goldilucky (#21)

Why is that?

Beats me. They just are.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-28   11:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: goldilucky (#13)

You should call Coast to Coast, and tell your story to George Noorey. I am sure he would like to hear you tell it.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-11-28   14:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Stoner (#23)

I would if I had access to a shortwave radio. I'd also prefer to listen to Art Bell.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-11-28   23:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: goldilucky (#24)

" I would if I had access to a shortwave radio. I'd also prefer to listen to Art Bell. "

Shortwave is not needed. the show is broadcast on AM radio. And you can call in via telephone.

Yes, Art Bell was much, much better. But you can only hear him on recorded playback. He is dead.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-11-29   12:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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