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Title: Stossel: Let Them Vape
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/reasontv/2018/11/20/stossel-let-them-vape
Published: Nov 20, 2018
Author: John Stossel & Tanvir Toy
Post Date: 2018-11-21 06:56:23 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 996
Comments: 16

Our government says e-cigarettes and vaping are the latest "epidemic" among teens. So the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says it will restrict them. Cities across the country are banning e-cigarette use in public.

But e-cigarettes help smokers quit traditional cigarettes. Michelle Minton of the Competitive Enterprise Institute tells John Stossel that people have misconceptions about e-cigarettes. "It's about 95 percent less harmful than a normal traditional cigarette," she says.

That's because e-cigarettes let people get a hit of nicotine without actually burning tobacco. The burning of paper and tobacco leaves is what makes cigarettes so dangerous.

Minton admits that the nicotine in e-cigarettes is addictive. But "on the spectrum of drugs that you can become addicted to, nicotine and caffeine are very similar to each other."

The Surgeon General says there are other health risks to vaping: "Besides nicotine, e-cigarettes can contain harmful and potentially harmful ingredients."

Despite the dangers, researchers seem to agree that e-cigarettes are substantially less dangerous than combustible cigarettes.

Other studies concluded that long-term e-cigarette use is "associated with substantially reduced levels of measured carcinogens and toxicants relative to cigarette-only smoking."

Nevertheless, the FDA threatens to crack down to discourage kids from using e-cigarettes.

Minton says that is a bad idea: "Do we want children to become addicted to anything? No....But keeping a small percent of teenagers from trying e-cigarettes is not worth sacrificing adults whose lives could be saved."

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

But e-cigarettes help smokers quit traditional cigarettes.

And e-cigarettes help teens to start smoking. In order to make it even easier to start, manufacturers offer flavors like mango, cucumber, fruit and crème.

Hooking teens on nicotine via tobacco, bad. Hooking teens on nicotine via e-cigarettes, good.

Take it a step further. Smoking tobacco, bad. Smoking marijuana, good. What a fucked-up society.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-21   9:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

....But keeping a small percent of teenagers from trying e-cigarettes is not worth sacrificing adults whose lives could be saved."

John Stossel to the rescue! He'll save you (whether or not you want him to).

After all, don't Libertarians do that? Oh, wait.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-21   9:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

But "on the spectrum of drugs that you can become addicted to, nicotine and caffeine are very similar to each other."

Bullshit.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-21   9:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

https://tcors.publichealth.gsu.edu/files/2015/02/NIDA-Summer-Intern-JGomes- Poster-Are-Nicotine-and-Caffeine-Comparable.pdf

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-21   9:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#1)

You may be right.

And you may be wrong. But who are you to decide?

Would you advocate a complete smoking ban nation or statewide? If not, then don't ban a safer form of smoking and let the more dangerous type continue. People should be responsible for their own health decisions and the smart ones, if they vape at all, will do so wisely.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-11-21   10:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5) (Edited)

I smoked for years. Wish I had never started. Tried to quit numerous times, no success, number of people tried to get me to quit. Finally, about 5 years ago, I decided I needed to. Not having any problems, just knew I needed to, even though I enjoyed it. Was tuff, and took some time, fut finally made it. I wish my wife, daughter, oldest son would quit, but I do not say anything to them. They need to want to on their own.

Daughters boyfriend vapes. I am amazed how much smoke is made with one draw. Seems like it is twice as much as from a regular cig.

I would think it is not as bad as the burning of tobacco with loads of chemicals, and paper with chemicals. But, I don't know.

But, people have to decide for themselves !!

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Stoner  posted on  2018-11-21   11:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#5)

then don't ban a safer form of smoking

I'm not. I'm saying don't make that "safer form" attractive to kids by adding flavors. Also, make it illegal for those under 18.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-21   11:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#1)

You do know that flavors come without any nicotine, and with at least 3 levels of nicotine depending on what THE BUYER WANTS. Freedom, you can't restrict it from some without restricting it from all.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-11-27   17:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#3)

It isn't the nicotine that keeps smokers tied down to cigarettes, it is simply a bad habit. I smoked for years and could quit any time I put a mind to it.

People won't believe this, but cigarette usage is the best diet to lose weight you can find. I quit for 11 years, and gained 30 lbs. One day I decided I was going to try smoking again, without changing my diet I lost 42 lbs. I quit after a year and gained exactly 42 lbs.

The boost to the metabolism for me is immense. My mind was sharper, and I felt great except for my lungs/cough. Whenever I was faced with an intricate task, I would sit down and smoke a cigarette and clarity would come over me.

People say this is crazy, but it is true. Tobacco improves brain function, and boosts metabolism. Why were people slim in the 1930's 40's 50's and 60's? They smoked more. If it were not for COPD, emphysema and the smell on the clothes, I would be puffing away today.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-11-27   18:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: jeremiad (#9)

I smoked for years and could quit any time I put a mind to it.

Same here. I quit hundreds of times.

"People won't believe this, but cigarette usage is the best diet to lose weight you can find."

I agree. When I was smoking I could eat anything in any quantity and wouldn't gain a pound. Friends and family couldn't believe it.

I finally quit smoking after 30 years … and gained 60 pounds.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-28   9:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#10)

KETO, finally carving off the tonnage the hard way...about 1 lb a week, and nary a vape or cigarette in sight. 18 lbs in 12 weeks, and I would be lying if I said I don't need mac and cheese, or the single serving half gallons of ice cream...lol.... But Jesus, why does ice cream have to be fattening?

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-12-01   23:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jeremiad (#11)

I cut out all snacks and desserts, reduced meal portions, and avoided all white foods. Lost 20 pounds in 3 months. Then zero pounds in the next 4 months, even though I changed nothing.

I will sacrifice if it leads to weight loss, but that was bullshit. I gave up, gained back the 20 plus 10 more.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-12-02   10:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#12) (Edited)

The point of the KETO or the Atkins diets are to treat high carb foods like you do candy bars, birthday cake, and doughnuts. You eat them last and sparingly, unlike adding rice, potatoes, pasta, stuffing, bread or pasta to the main entree at supper, lunch or breakfast. The older we get, the harder it is for our bodies to process these things into energy, instead converting them into fat. KETO for life, or live with the fat body. That is my motto now. I forgot, NO CORN PRODUCTS AT ALL. It is now like chocolate cake and ice cream. It is bad for you in several ways.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-12-02   17:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jeremiad (#13)

KETO for life, or live with the fat body.

My bottom line is that whatever the plan, if the plan stop working, it's not a good plan.

Go on KETO, and if you lose zero pounds over 4 months then tell me how enthusiastic you are to stay on the program.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-12-02   17:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#14)

The 20 wasn't enough? You add in a swim class, ride a bicycle for an hour, join a gym or purchase a Total Gym and use it for 4 hours a week. It is hard, but it works.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2018-12-02   18:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jeremiad (#15)

You add in a swim class, ride a bicycle for an hour, join a gym or purchase a Total Gym and use it for 4 hours a week. It is hard, but it works.

Exercise is great for toning your muscles. But for weight loss it's useless.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-12-03   8:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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