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Title: Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson take heat on remarks
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31502.html
Published: Jan 14, 2010
Author: ANDY BAR
Post Date: 2010-01-14 12:44:41 by Bickus Dickus
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Views: 87100
Comments: 183
Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson take heat on remarks Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and televangelist Pat Robertson are being scolded for their comments in the immediate aftermath of an earthquake in Haiti that has killed tens of thousands, according to early estimates. Critics from both the left and right are denouncing their remarks as insensitive to the disaster and attempts to score political points off human tragedy. Speaking on his radio show Wednesday, Limbaugh said the earthquake has played into Obama’s hands, allowing the president to look “compassionate” and “humanitarian” while at the same time bolstering his standing in both the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country.” He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.” Limbaugh’s comments were, in part, a riff on Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) much publicized remark in a new book that Obama was able to win the election because he is “light-skinned” and lacks a “Negro dialect.” But regardless of the intended context, Limbaugh’s comments have been widely panned. “They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.” Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.” “The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman. Liberal commentators also quickly jumped on Limbaugh. “Limbaugh did not know when to just shut up,” said liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on his MSNBC show “Countdown.” “Today he blamed communism for the poverty of Haiti, blamed President Obama for holding a news conference the day after this cataclysm when he did not hold one after the failed half-assed terror attempt in Detroit.” John Amato from the left-leaning website Crooks and Liars added that “with thousands of people dead already and as the suffering continues in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.” The conservative media watchdog site Newsbusters stepped up to defend Limbaugh, saying his comments were not put in proper context, but very few others are backing the conservative firebrand’s latest controversial remarks. Poster Comment: Leave it to the fat, drug-addled pig Limbaugh to try to turn a natural disaster into a political act.
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#144. To: Tater (#19)
Whatever. Anyone who listens to Rushbo for any amount of time and can't see he's a useless blowhard ain't that bright (you).
It has been a day and many exchanges since … let me get this straight. You say: NOWHERE (Emphasis Yours) has anyone claimed that he (Rush) said that (not to send donate to Haiti, send money, etc) and you (Tater) have been asked to provide any evidence that it was so claimed. And I need to show you ANYWHERE or SOMEWHERE that SOMEONE said that Mr.Limbaugh ask that donations not be sent to Haiti. We went back and forth … I really need to know what you are asking and what I need to prove.
You need to show how from the article that started this thread and the responses that you can justify this statement: As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti... Tater posted on 2010-01-14 19:06:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
This implicitly discourages donations IMO.
As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti... Here is where my confusion lies ... You are talking about the article here ... And I am talking about what I heard Rush say ... Please, I am NOT be evasive ... I am just a little confused. I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti. I can also show you were many said that Rush did not say not to send aid to Haiti. I heard Rush and he did not say NOT to send aid to Haiti. Now, bear with me, again ... I may be able to get the transcript from Rush's program ... or links to the other two ... Which do you want?
Here's what I found. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI... A Letter to Rush Limbaugh / / / January 14, 2010 To: Rush Limbaugh From: Roger Ebert You should be horse-whipped for the insult you have paid to the highest office of our nation. Having followed President Obama's suggestion and donated money to the Red Cross for relief in Haiti, I was offended to hear you suggest the President might be a thief capable of stealing money intended for the earthquake victims. Here is a transcript from your program on Thursday: Justin of Raleigh, North Carolina: "Why does Obama say if you want to donate some money, you could go to whitehouse.gov to direct you how to do so? If I wanted to donate to the Red Cross, why do I have to go to the White House page to donate?" Limbaugh: "Exactly. Would you trust the money's gonna go to Haiti?" Justin: "No." Rush: "But would you trust that your name's gonna end up on a mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?" Justin: "Absolutely!" Limbaugh: "Absolutely!" That's what was said. Unlike you and Justin of Raleigh, I went to Obama's web site, and discovered the link there leads directly to the Red Cross. I can think of a reason why anyone might want to go via the White House. That way they can be absolutely sure they're clicking on the Red Cross and not a fake site set up to exploit the tragedy. But let me be sure I have this right. You and Justin agree that Obama might steal money intended for the Red Cross to help the wretched of Haiti. This conversation came 48 hours after many of us had seen pitiful sights from Port au Prince. Tens of thousands are believed still alive beneath the rubble. You twisted their suffering into an opportunity to demean the character of the President of the United States. You have a sizable listening audience. You apparently know how to please them. Anybody given a $400 million contract must know what he is doing. That's what offends me. You know exactly what you're doing.
That one...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.” This implicitly discourages donations IMO. Did you hear the 6 hours of his program ... did you read the entire transcript ... or ... are making a judgment on what someone said he said?
When your reduced to quoting Ebert, you should shut down the computer.
Okay ... I think I understand what you want ... sorry for my confusion. I will get those for you ... "many" (scratching head: how many) ...
I agree...but my point is that NO-ONE has accused Blimpy of advocating that Haiti be given absolutely no help. I could be wrong.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Okay...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
argument against sending aid to Haiti [1]
says Do not donate to Haiti ... [2]
Don’t Donate to Haiti Victims [3]
People Not To Donate Money To Haiti [4]
People Not To Donate Money To Haiti [5]
not to donate to Haiti earthquake relief efforts [6]
"many" ... please tell me when to stop ...
Your first two links clearly cite donating through the WH website...the third falls more into the penumbra of your complaint but the source is hardly one that reaches any significant plurality. So, while granting you partial credit, I'd feel better about your argument were your sources more mainstream.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Again 4 and 5 fall within your penumbra but are hardly mainstream. #6 clearly cites the WH website.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Oops...ping to above... I'll also note that these are ex post facto to our discussion last night, no?
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
This implicitly discourages donations IMO. I agree...but my point is that NO-ONE has accused Blimpy of advocating that Haiti be given absolutely no help. I could be wrong. Guys, I heard him ... and I promise you that I am being as objective He did talk about donations ... income tax ... He NEVER said, or implied, that money should not be sent to Haiti. He dis say, or imply, that it should not be worked thorough, or sent through, the White House and they had apparently directed emails be sent to them. Questions ... Now, I can show you just as many, or more links that agree with my statement.
Fits "anyone" ... "anywhere" ... "anytime" Quibbling there just a bit, war? I listened to the MSM on TV and News ... They were making the STRONG IMPLICATIONS (since I cannot qote them exactly) that Rush had said NOT to send donations to Haiti. I know WHAT Rush said and did not say ... I personally heard him.
Yes, but that is not the point ... I read that yesterday and that is why I posted it ... I just cannot find the exact link where I found it. Do you REALLY want me to go find one dated yesterday, or do you now want to stop quibbling? I know what Rush said and did not say ... I heard him ... all six hours ... and all three hours most every day ...
WAR 0
Well...maybe just a bit. It's my own fault though for not establishing parameters. So, as I said, you get credit for establishing that some may have misrepped what Blimpy said but it is hardly widespread or widely disseminated...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Now this is where you and I will again disgree. He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
LOL!
Quibbling there just a bit, war? Well...maybe just a bit. It's my own fault though for not establishing parameters. So, as I said, you get credit for establishing that some may have misrepped what Blimpy said but it is hardly widespread or widely disseminated... Thanks.
Let me go check that ... we have been back and forth so much on this, that I am getting about cloudy on what he said. I like to be accurate ... I am will admit when I am wrong.
Okay, I did my part. I went to his Web site and I did the Google thing. I cannot find where he said that "US taxpayer money should NOT be sent." Link me to a few sources for the quote. I remember he said too much had been sent, it would go to the wrong hands and a lot of other things ... but I simply cannot remember if he ever said NONE should be sent now.
C;mon Tater...you're parsing here... Is Rush for or against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti to help them?
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Does he still beat his girlfriend? I went everywhere and I could find no place where he said he was against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti ... have you seen a quote by him where he said this. I did find one place that said since he did not definitely say that he was for it ... then he must be against it ... but that was just some stupid lib using the fallacy of deductive reasoning. Generally, here is a shopping basket recap of what I found: Here is but one interpretation by a blogger of what Rush said … there are many like this: He (Rush) asked people not to send their donations to White House saying they shouldn’t waste their hard earned money on something like this. That is a bold face lie and solely intended to discredit Rush. Rush insisted that people should still donate, but go through private channels like the Red Cross. The radio host advised listeners not to donate to a Haiti relief fund set up by the White House. This is true. Limbaugh suggested that people don't need to donate because they already have through income taxes, and that the money probably wouldn't go to help the people of Haiti any way. The most that would happen, he suggested, is that donators would end up on an Obama campaign mailing list. He said "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the US Income Tax." He did say the last sentence … I heard him say that … but the setup leading into it is incorrect. The writer took portions of his words and gave them into a different meaning. So, what was he talking about? Was he telling people that they shouldn't try to help out the Haitians? No. He was telling people not to donate to Obama administration led initiatives. Not to send money to the White House. Look at the following left-handed remark, this is like someone surrendering under a white flag and some bastard still shoots him: Rush himself said that he said he didn't say "don't send money to Haiti." But does that mean that's how he feels inside? We will never know - only he knows what he feels. And see the spin Gibbs put on it: For his part, Gibbs says it's unfortunate that Limbaugh would convince people, through whatever means, not to donate to people in need. I don’t usually swear … but I will now … this is why I hate these lying BASTARDS in the media … they never seem to get it right … they only write and speak it the way they want it heard … to Hell with the truth! Facts be Damned!
Then why the rant?
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Who ... me or Rush?
Ha... Rush...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
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If Con is the opposite of Pro does that mean Congress is the opposite of Progress?
Liberalism is looked upon as a mental disorder and this sick comment sounds like a fart from some Liberal. You have to twist good intent around to fit your personal agenda. A liberal sounding rubbish remark is boring talk. If you don't like Rush, then pay no attention to him. He has enough followers who like really like him. Don’t flatter yourself into feeling that he needs you.
#145. To: war (#138)
Hold on there...the claim has been made by your "side" that Limbaugh was
telling everyone to NOT donate to Haiti. NOWHERE has anyone claimed that he
said that and you have been asked to provide any evidence that it was so
claimed. WHAT has been claimed is that he has used Haiti to attack Obama.
#146. To: Tater (#145)
And I need to show you ANYWHERE or SOMEWHERE that SOMEONE said that Mr.Limbaugh ask that donations not be sent to Haiti.
#147. To: war (#146)
He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”
#148. To: war (#146)
You need to show how from the article that started this thread and the responses that you can justify this statement:
#149. To: war (#146)
#150. To: Tater (#148)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
#151. To: Fred Mertz, war (#147)
#152. To: Bickus Dickus (#149)
#153. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
#154. To: Fred Mertz (#147)
This implicitly discourages donations IMO.
#155. To: Tater (#153)
#156. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh's
#157. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh
#158. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh:
#159. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh Tells
#160. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh Tells
#161. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
Rush Limbaugh urges people
#162. To: war (#150)
I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.
#163. To: Tater (#158)
#164. To: All (#163)
#165. To: Tater (#164)
#166. To: war, Fred Mertz (#154)
as I possibly can be ...
#167. To: war (#164)
Again 4 and 5 fall within your penumbra but are hardly mainstream. #6 clearly cites the WH website.
#168. To: war (#165)
I'll also note that these are ex post facto to our discussion last night, no?
#169. To: All (#168)
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Tater 1
#170. To: Tater (#167)
Quibbling there just a bit, war?
#171. To: Tater (#166)
He NEVER said, or implied, that money should not be sent to Haiti.
#172. To: war (#139)
I'll try harder next time coach!!!
#173. To: war (#170)
#174. To: war (#171)
Now this is where you and I will again disgree. He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.
#175. To: war (#171)
He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.
#176. To: Tater (#175)
#177. To: war (#176)
(Edited)
Is Rush for or against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti to help them?
#178. To: Tater (#177)
I went everywhere and I could find no place where he said he was against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti ...
#179. To: war (#178)
Then why the rant?
#180. To: Tater (#179)
#181. To: war (#142)
Hey...Pens/Sabes seem to play each other a lot coming up...
#182. To: go65 (#0)
#183. To: war (#119)
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