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Title: Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson take heat on remarks
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31502.html
Published: Jan 14, 2010
Author: ANDY BAR
Post Date: 2010-01-14 12:44:41 by Bickus Dickus
Keywords: None
Views: 87067
Comments: 183

Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson take heat on remarks

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and televangelist Pat Robertson are being scolded for their comments in the immediate aftermath of an earthquake in Haiti that has killed tens of thousands, according to early estimates.

Critics from both the left and right are denouncing their remarks as insensitive to the disaster and attempts to score political points off human tragedy.

Speaking on his radio show Wednesday, Limbaugh said the earthquake has played into Obama’s hands, allowing the president to look “compassionate” and “humanitarian” while at the same time bolstering his standing in both the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country.”

He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”

Limbaugh’s comments were, in part, a riff on Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) much publicized remark in a new book that Obama was able to win the election because he is “light-skinned” and lacks a “Negro dialect.”

But regardless of the intended context, Limbaugh’s comments have been widely panned.

“They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.”

Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.”

“The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman.

Liberal commentators also quickly jumped on Limbaugh.

“Limbaugh did not know when to just shut up,” said liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on his MSNBC show “Countdown.” “Today he blamed communism for the poverty of Haiti, blamed President Obama for holding a news conference the day after this cataclysm when he did not hold one after the failed half-assed terror attempt in Detroit.”

John Amato from the left-leaning website Crooks and Liars added that “with thousands of people dead already and as the suffering continues in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.”

The conservative media watchdog site Newsbusters stepped up to defend Limbaugh, saying his comments were not put in proper context, but very few others are backing the conservative firebrand’s latest controversial remarks.

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Leave it to the fat, drug-addled pig Limbaugh to try to turn a natural disaster into a political act.

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#1. To: Bickus Dickus (#0)

Robertson's an insane egomaniac as this and so many other of his comments have demonstrated over the years.

Limbaugh's comments might be said to be 'insensitive' but the fact is he's right about how this Administration will use Haiti.

Whats laughable in this column is that lightweight blowhard Olberman's comments. Pot, kettle, black.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-14   12:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: (#0)

Bickus Dickus

Little dick, Olberdink and Amato, a trio of fookin dunces!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   15:10:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Bickus Dickus (#0)

“with thousands of people dead already and as the suffering continues in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.”

Truth.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-14   15:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Keith Olbermann (#0)

“Limbaugh did not know when to just shut up,” said liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on his MSNBC show “Countdown.” “Today he blamed communism for the poverty of Haiti, blamed President Obama for holding a news conference the day after this cataclysm when he did not hold one after the failed half-assed terror attempt in Detroit.”

Why should Limbaugh "shut up," Keith you sycophantic POS 0bama-moonbat?

Haiti IS a Marxist sh*t-hole, 0bama IS a Marxist sh*t-head AND feckless absentee "Leader," AND tap-dancing ass-clown.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   18:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Biffy-Boy Tannen, Bickus Dopus (#3)

“with thousands of people dead already and as the suffering continues in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.”

Truth.

Lol, "truth"??

0bama-the-Pyromaniac is setting fire to America with his lies, grand theft, and his destruction of the economy, and YOU two flying ass-hats are crying on each others' shoulder over WHAT again? "WAAAAHHH!!! - Limbaugh torched our Kenyan Hopey/Changy messiah!!"

If you two poseurs are so damn heartbroken, instead of pounding the keyboard in between sips of Chamomile Tea, get on a frickin' plane with your checkbooks TO Haiti.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   18:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#1)

Whats laughable in this column is that lightweight blowhard Olberman's comments. Pot, kettle, black.

Yeah really...Olbermann??? THE paragon of virtue calling out ANYONE?

LOL

Olberdumb has the integrity of a diseased kumquat.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   18:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator, Biffy-Boy Tannen, Bickus Dopus (#5)

If you two poseurs are so damn heartbroken, instead of pounding the keyboard in between sips of Chamomile Tea, get on a frickin' plane with your checkbooks TO Haiti.

That would mean leaving momma's basement and their blow-up dolls!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   18:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#7)

That would mean leaving momma's basement and their blow-up dolls!

THAT ain't happenin' - who'd wanna leave THAT Shan-gri-la?

No, I believe the stud-muffins will be content to play it safe at home with Latex Honey I and II.

Plus fake sympathy and whimpering comes cheaply.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   18:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#5)

You might have noticed that I only posted the article. Why not post your brilliant rebuttal to the author over at Politico?

Since you like to redo people's names, why not call him something really clever by your standards like Candy Barr?

Don't bother to thank me, Lubricator. I'm always happy to help.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   18:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: yukon (#8)

That would mean leaving momma's basement and their blow-up dolls!

Hi, yucktard.

I see you and Mad Dog got back from testifying against Prop 8 in DC all right.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   18:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bickus Dickus (#10)

Hi, yucktard.

I see you

Still meth delusional, eh little dick?

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   18:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bickus Dickus (#0)

Leave it to the fat, drug-addled pig Limbaugh to try to turn a natural disaster into a political act.

As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti, he did advocate that it NOT be sent through governmental agencies. We all know that ONLY pennies on the dollar would actually get through the sticky hands of the bureaucrats. Rush smartly suggested helping those in need in Haiti through private charities … where the donations would be used better, faster and for less money loss to get aid to Haiti. You dudes continually for his scheisse all the time … he loves it and laughs at you.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Bickus Dickus (#9)

You might have noticed that I only posted the article.

Excuse me. I thought you were channeling Keith Olbermann with your whiny post about Robertson and Limbaugh....Hmmm, yes you were.

You and I both know I'm right, Bogus Dickus.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   19:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tater, Bickus Dickus (#12)

he loves it and laughs at you.

You have to excuse little dick, the meth has totally decimated what little sense he had.

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   19:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#13)

xcuse me. I thought you were channeling Keith Olbermann with your whiny post about Robertson and Limbaugh

You really are quite deranged. Ever try visiting reality?

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tater (#12)

You dudes continually for his scheisse all the time

English translation, please.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tater, Bickus Dickus (#12)

As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti, he did advocate that it NOT be sent through governmental agencies. We all know that ONLY pennies on the dollar would actually get through the sticky hands of the bureaucrats. Rush smartly suggested helping those in need in Haiti through private charities … where the donations would be used better, faster and for less money loss to get aid to Haiti. You dudes continually for his scheisse all the time … he loves it and laughs at you.

WELL stated.

Deconstructing the lies of the Olbermann-Left, then reconstructing the truth is always a challenge when tutoring room-temperature simian posters.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   19:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Bickus Dickus, Tater (#16)

English translation, please.

HA!

See what I mean?

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   19:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Biff Tannen (#3)

“with ... in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.” >p>Truth.

Liberalism is looked upon as a mental disorder and this sick comment sounds like a fart from some Liberal. You have to twist good intent around to fit your personal agenda. A liberal sounding rubbish remark is boring talk. If you don't like Rush, then pay no attention to him. He has enough followers who like really like him. Don’t flatter yourself into feeling that he needs you.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Bickus Dickus (#16)

Scheisse

German word meaning: Shit.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#18)

HA!

See what I mean?

No, I don't.

Do you want to tell me what this is supposed to mean?

You dudes continually for his scheisse all the time

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#21)

So we dudes continually for his shit.

Right. That makes perfect sense.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#6)

I've seen nothing from you that ensconces you in a base of moral superiority over anyone. That fact that you would make a personal attack rather than attack Olberman's argument underscores that.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   19:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#13)

... You and I both know I'm right ...

Spot right on the bullseye, you are ... make that three.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tater (#12)

Rush was only partially quoted

I can't seem to find the entire quote anywhere...can you provide it?

That asked, how many private charities have at their disposal the hundreds of millions of dollars as well as the vast mechanism requiring thousands of pieces of machinery and thousands of personnel to deliver this aid?

I can't think of one. Can you?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   19:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Bickus Dickus (#22)

So we dudes continually for his shit.

Right. That makes perfect sense.

Calling out re-inforcements, are you?

Stand your ground alone, if you can.

If you buy into the press account then
enjoy your meal!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#25)

I can't seem to find the entire quote anywhere...can you provide it?

No, I heard him make it ... paraphrased it the best I could ... accurately, I would say.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tater (#26)

Calling out re-inforcements, are you?

No, I'm not. Again, what are you talking about?

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tater (#27)

No, I heard him make it ...

That's not good enough. Rush and his apologists have too often claimed that he was misquoted only to be confronted with the stark reality that...wait for it... he wasn't.

On a side note...if you respond to you own post, as Bickus did above, the "To" defaults to "All"///

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   19:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war, Tater (#29)

On a side note...if you respond to you own post, as Bickus did above, the "To" defaults to "All"///

Oh, so that's what he meant.

No, Tater, "ALL" isn't my ping list for reinforcements.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-14   19:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Bickus Dickus (#30)

No, Tater, "ALL" isn't my ping list for reinforcements.

I understand ... sometimes words relayed do not mean what they are intended to mean ... point made.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#29)

That's not good enough. Rush and his apologists have too often claimed that he was misquoted only to be confronted with the stark reality that...

Reality ...

Rush has a point on which he is right. The US Government already gives millions upon millions every year to Haiti and it gets stolen by a corrupt government. Haiti could be a tourist hot spot just like the Bahamas, but it isn't because it is so corrupt.

Sure US Dollars will be used to rebuild Haiti, and that is the way it should be … through CONTROLLED and ACCOUNTABLE methods … what will the effect for the effort be. Where will Haiti be one year from now? Corruption needs to be controlled … the money needs to go to the needy … not to rebuild the palatial estates of the corrupt politicians.

Let the money flow THROUGH private charities.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tater (#32)

Let the money flow THROUGH private charities.

You didn't answer the question....WHAT CHARITY is set up for this undertaking?

Also, what makes you believe that a private charity would be MORE effective at avoiding Haitian corruption than the US government?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   19:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Tater, war (#32)

Rush has a point on which he is right.

[1] The US Government [aka the American Taxpayer] already gives millions upon millions every year to Haiti and...

[2] ....it gets stolen by a corrupt government.

[3] Haiti could be a tourist hot spot just like the Bahamas, but it isn't because it is so corrupt.

Point "1": TRUE

Point "2": TRUE

Point "3": TRUE

Sure US Dollars will be used to rebuild Haiti, and that is the way it should be … through CONTROLLED and ACCOUNTABLE methods …

Emergency Relief is one thing...

But I must respectfully disagree with and oppose the notion that there is ANY financial obligation on the part the United States Government to rebuild Haiti at all - from it's capital/mansion, to its Marxist government buildings, to it's giant shanty-town/city.

Let the UN cough monies up from ITS coffers.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   19:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#33)

WHAT CHARITY is set up for this undertaking?

Dont' know right off hand ... would need to research ... maybe the Red Cross to start with, and then there some other large ones.

Rush was questioned by a caller as to why he should go through the Obama administration to make a donation to the Red Cross and Rush expounded on that thought. I got the idea that the caller should go directly to the Red Cross.

Also, the caller said his mother was headed to Haiti to help out. Rush did not discourage that nor did he in any way discourage people making donations to non- Obama administration controlled charities.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   19:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war, Tater (#33)

WHAT CHARITY is set up for this undertaking?

International Red Cross, the UN - whatever.

The US Government is NOT a chartered "Charitable Organization"; It's a Republic.

Also, what makes you believe that a private charity would be MORE effective at avoiding Haitian corruption than the US government?

NOT the problem of the US Mercenary Force.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   20:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator, war (#34)

Rush has a point ...

I saw Rush as warning his listeners not to be taken in by the Obama administration by going to WhiteHouse.gov, as Obama instructed, to make donations to Haiti earthquake relief.

Why does Obama want this channeled through the White House … to increase the names on their mailing list for donations and ….

I too would feel concern for any accountability of the donations made there … where would those donations wind up in the Obama administration?

I feel it was that concern that that was addressed ... while it prompted his remark that has been taken out of context and used to smear Rush.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Tater'war (#35)

Rush was questioned by a caller as to why he should go through the Obama administration to make a donation to the Red Cross and Rush expounded on that thought. I got the idea that the caller should go directly to the Red Cross.

The 0bama Administration is about NOTHING BUT Power & Control; Control & Power.

If the caller prefers that his/her check get cashed by Red Cross, then WTF is 0bama's hand doing out??

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   20:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tater (#37)

I saw Rush as warning his listeners not to be taken in by the Obama administration by going to WhiteHouse.gov, as Obama instructed, to make donations to Haiti earthquake relief.

Good for him...

Why does Obama want this channeled through the White House … to increase the names on their mailing list for donations and ….

That's all these people ever do - harvest names and money for whatever Leftist ulterior motive Leftists have.

I too would feel concern for any accountability of the donations made there … where would those donations wind up in the Obama administration?

There ya go. ACORN's Favorite Son resides at the WH. Everyone knows it. We know how they operate.

...taken out of context and used to smear Rush.

It's gone on for ages.

This is why I believe Rush Limbaugh is still effective and a major asset to conservatism - BECAUSE the Left is still obsessed with attacking him every which way.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   20:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator, war (#38)

Rush did make the point that throwing money at the problems in Haiti has not worked because of thievery by dictators who've run Haiti and a failure to focus on self-reliance with the charitable work.

Rush did not tell people not to help the Haitians.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Tater (#37)

Why does Obama want this channeled through the White House … to increase the names on their mailing list for donations and ….

Rush at his lying best. He knows that any such use is illegal and what he said is borderline slander. I've asked you point blank WHAT charities can do this. You "guessed" the Red Cross. They've put it on the WH website exactly WHAT charities wll be involved and suggested that you can even donate to then directy.

And here's a partial transcript of that bloviating sack of pus...Olberman is dead on...Haiti has suffered a major human disaster and all that Sack oF Shit can do is use it to attack Obama...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   20:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator (#38)

The 0bama Administration is about NOTHING BUT Power & Control; Control & Power.

Please...after what we've gone through the last 8 years your histrionics are funnier than George Castanza on meth looking for his car keys so he can visit a whore house...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   20:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#41)

Olberman is dead

No one would notice, except for his handful of retarded viewers.

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   20:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#42)

after what we've gone through the last 8 years

The last year being the most horrific!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   20:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Liberator (#36)

The US Government is...

...a reflection of its people who are a charitable people. This is what out government should be doing in the international sphere if it does anything at all...it beats the hell out of this:

and this

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   20:22:17 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Tater (#40)

Rush did make the point that throwing money at the problems in Haiti has not worked

Boy Blunder nearly tripled it. Can you post a transcript of Rush decrying this?

Thanks in advance.

That said...this is something different...people are dying...and a neighbor has suffered a disaster...when your neighbor's house is on fire you don't dicker over the price of the hose and worry about what church he attends...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   20:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#45)

War, you fookin spandex encased drama queen!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-14   20:31:05 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war (#41)

Rush at his lying best.

Rush was not lying.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#41)

... and what he said is borderline slander.

borderline ... like half pregnant?

Come on ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#41)

... Olberman is dead on ...

Olberman is BRAIN dead ... the lying piece of crap.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#41)

... can do is use it to attack Obama...

Obama deserves to be attacked (politically) ... anyway, anywhere and anytime possible.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   20:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#45)

Look - that pile of bodies may as well be a post-Village Gay Parade "celebration." Meh.

Is it really ANY different than a college hazing event? (or will you blame the US Government for THAT too?)

As to that picture of a badly injured child, I had NO idea you were so interested in the welfare of tiny children. It IS a horrible shame, isn't it?

I concur with you - too many (millions) of babies in this world are unfairly butchered - sanctioned even by our own government.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-14   20:59:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: war (#41)

And here's a partial transcript of that bloviating sack of pus

You take a PARTIAL transcript and make judgement on that?

And you have the audacity to refer to someone one as a "bloviating sack of pus"

Partial trasncript ... like half pregnant ... come on, you are better than that!

I listend to all three hours yesterday and today.

I know what Rush said and I know what he meant ... you read a PARTIAL transcript and you make a definitive judgment on that ... right, lib ... right.

"PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT" ... That is how libs SPIN the whole world ... around and around and around ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war, liberator (#42)

The 0bama Administration is about NOTHING BUT Power & Control; Control & Power.

Liberator is correct ... take over the banks ... take over the car industry ... all they want to do is to take full control of everything ... take, take, take!!!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ibluafartsky (#43)

The 0bama Administration is about NOTHING BUT Power & Control; Control & Power.

Olberman has NO viewers ... look at the ratings!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ibluafartsky (#44)

The last year being the most horrific!

Worst first year approval rating for a President in how LONG?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#45)

...images...

Prove nothing ... validates no point ... spam!!!!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Tater (#48)

Rush was not lying.

Can he point to any time that Obama used information gathered from a government website to engage in fundraising?

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#46)

Boy Blunder nearly tripled it. Can you post a transcript of Rush decrying this?

I don't have a full transcript of the entire three hours ...

But I know what I heard ... and you did not hear him say ONE thing ... you read a PARTIAL transcript and formed a BIASED judgment ... shame on you ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: war (#46)

That said...this is something different...people are dying...and a neighbor has suffered a disaster...

Of course people are dying and a neighbor has suffered a disaster ... and Obama is going to send 100 million dollars to aid them ... WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY ...

Just like he is taking care of "Cap and Trade" ... how's that working out for you?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Tater (#57)

Prove nothing ... validates no point ...

Sorry...that is the view that a good portion of the world gets of the US. I used to have a photo of a partially exploded piece of ordnance from a refugee camp somewhere in Lebanon that clearly showed its country of origin...USA...

The USA should be seen as a humanitarian country...not as one that blows up children and tortures people...and if you don't believe that a good portion of the world does not see us as the latter, then try a different shade of glasses...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Tater (#60)

... WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY ...

You have no basis in fact to make that statement.

That said, what kind of accountability did the Boy Blunder put on Haiti when he sent them 160odd million in 2008?

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: war (#58)

Can he point to any time that Obama used information gathered from a government website to engage in fundraising?

That was my stated opinion ... if I wrote it so that you misread it ... that was my mistake.

Do I believe they will use the money for that ... HELL, YES I DO ... Chicago politics at its very best!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Tater (#59)

you read a PARTIAL transcript

I said that I did. Why would Blimpy have that on his website and not the Kinder Gentler Blimp that you claim made an appearance?

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: war (#61)

Sorry...that is the view that a good portion of the world gets of the US.

That's the view you bleeding heart libs try to portray for all the world to see ... and you are doing a DAMNED GOOD JOB of doing that!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Tater (#56)

Worst first year approval rating for a President in how LONG?

IIRC, 28 years...do the math...

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Tater (#65)

That's the view you bleeding heart libs try to portray for all the world to see ...

Nobody HAS to try...these things HAPPENED.`

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#61)

and if you don't believe that a good portion of the world does not see us as the latter, then try a different shade of glasses...

There are those in the world who hate us ... and they will forever hate us whateve we do, or don't do ... when in history has the entire world love America ... get real ... another false lib outlook ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: war (#62)

You have no basis in fact to make that statement.

There is no accountability in this whole administration ... closed door operations on the health care ... Holder will not do anything about the Black Panthers, even after they were found guilty by default ... basis for accountability for the Obama administation ... ROTFLMAO ...

Still running AGAINST GWB ... Give it up ... but a new DVD ... George is not around any more ... Obama is ... Live with his probelms now ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tater (#68)

There are those in the world who hate us ...

The question that you need to ask - and I know that you are honest and I trust your answer - are any of them justified?

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#66)

Worst first year approval rating for a President in how LONG? IIRC, 28 years...do the math...

Nah ... you did it for me ... and all I can say is: WOW!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#67)

That's the view you bleeding heart libs try to portray for all the world to see ... Nobody HAS to try...these things HAPPENED.`

HAPPPENED with a lot of help for you libs ... Yea ... Right!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#70)

The question that you need to ask - and I know that you are honest and I trust your answer - are any of them justified?

Of course they are ... and after four short years of Obama ... the question you need to ask, is: Will there be any improvement?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Tater (#69) (Edited)

The problem that you cite are minor...you say Black Panthers...I say Blackwater...where is their accountability? Haliburton PROFITING off of war...do you know what war profits used to be called?

A felony...

Your outrage, as justified as you believe it to be, is disproportional to your lack of outrage over other more egregious issues...

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Bickus Dickus (#0)

Leave it to the fat, drug-addled pig Limbaugh to try to turn a natural disaster into a political act.

Agreed.

Controversy sells, so I hope I don't have to post on this thread again.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   21:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Tater (#73)

I don't know. I certainly am not prepared to answer it after ONE year...and in most cases, Blimpy included, they were wishing for and declaring failure after a couple of months...

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Fred Mertz (#75)

Controversy sells, so I hope I don't have to post on this thread again.

Okay...I laughed...

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Tater (#73)

There's a hockey game on now so in a moment or two I am going to step back and watch it. The last time that I tried to watch a sporting event and post I didn't do a very good job of either...

Good back and forth and much more can be said when we put the "You ignorant slut" shit aside...thanks for the debate and I salute you for not devolving it...

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war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#74)

The problem that you cite are minor...you say Black Panthers...I say Blackwater...where is their accountability? Haliburton PROFITING off of war...do you know what war profits used to be called?

A felony...

Your outrage, as justified as you believe it to be, is disproportional to your lack of outrage over other more egregious issues...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

Oh, I get it ... everything you see as the Pubs doing in MAJOR ... and everything you see as the Libs doign is MINOR ... kinda like make judgment from reading a PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT ... Right ... Yea, sure.

Egregious issues ... who gets to decide which ones are egregious ... You?

No Stems No Seeds No Rational Judgments ... Libs call it they way the see it ... Huh?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Tater (#32)

Sure US Dollars will be used to rebuild Haiti, and that is the way it should be … through CONTROLLED and ACCOUNTABLE methods … what will the effect for the effort be. Where will Haiti be one year from now? Corruption needs to be controlled … the money needs to go to the needy … not to rebuild the palatial estates of the corrupt politicians.

I am remembering something I was reading last December, around Pearl Harbor Day. It was discussing the sate of the US compared to the state of Japan after the war. The US spent I don't even remember how much money rebuilding Japan after the war. There were photos comparing Detroit to Tokyo. I think it's obvious that we have got to stop spending so much money rebuilding other countries while ours lies in shambles. My in-laws (not hubby's parents-it's complicated) are church people - the kids Grandpa is a minister and their grandma is a fine woman with many resources. They go to Haiti every year for several weeks, sometimes a full month, to help the people with food, clothing, whatever they need. They are scheduled to go out there next month and we're already collecting the necessary supplies to send with them. It is a wonderful thing that they do. Haiti is getting assistance and there are so many giving Americans that Haiti will get what it needs right now without have to spend even more US dollars that the US does not have.

I'm sad for the people of Haiti and we do what we can do, but let's face it. The US Government doesn't have the money to help them. They've already given bailout money to people who didn't need it and that money could've went to haiti - It just doesn't make any sense. US Gov helps the rich and helps the foreignors but does nothing for it's own people. Perhaps we're turning into Mexico much faster than I think. I don't know. That's just my two cents worth. Carry on.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   21:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#79)

We moved off topic … back to Rush …

Rush Limbaugh expounded on his comments today during a phone comment to a caller named "April". He said today he does not discourage donations to Haiti: "I did not say do not send donations to Haiti." He said he loves to "tweak" the media.

Right. So, what does the media and the liberal pundits do, they immediately turn that around with: “He didn't say donate to Haiti and he made a long statement that anyone would interpret as "don't donate to Haitian relief."

Anyone would interpret … interpret … Rush said: “I did not say do not send donations to Haiti” … I heard him say that to “April” … and then I read: “He didn't say donate to Haiti and he made a long statement that anyone would interpret as "don't donate to Haitian relief."

Interpret … That just makes me sick …

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: mel (#80)

I'm sad for the people of Haiti and we do what we can do, but let's face it. The US Government doesn't have the money to help them. They've already given bailout money to people who didn't need it and that money could've went to haiti - It just doesn't make any sense. US Gov helps the rich and helps the foreignors but does nothing for it's own people. Perhaps we're turning into Mexico much faster than I think. I don't know. That's just my two cents worth. Carry on.

Excellent points ... and what money is sent there, will wind up AGAIN in the hands of the corrupt politicians!

Glad you are here, Mel ... Good to see you.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Tater (#79)

...who gets to decide which ones are egregious ... You?

Well...cha...YEA...

Who gets to decide for YOU which ones are?

Which do you think is worse? A couple of black guys in front of a predominantly black polling place or a kid with his arms blown off from Made in USA ordnance?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Tater (#81)

"I did not say do not send donations to Haiti." He said he loves to "tweak" the media.

That's his MO...

"Oh...I really didn't MEAN what I said, folks..."

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Tater (#81)

Right. So, what does the media and the liberal pundits do, they immediately turn that around with: “He didn't say donate to Haiti and he made a long statement that anyone would interpret as "don't donate to Haitian relief."

Where did anyone say that he said that?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Tater (#82)

Glad you are here, Mel ... Good to see you.

What Da Spud said..

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-14   21:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#83)

Which do you think is worse? A couple of black guys in front of a predominantly black polling place or a kid with his arms blown off from Made in USA ordnance?

Both are terrbile ...

You see nothing wrong with a couple of guys in black uniforms (giving the appearance of LEOs) waving nightsticks in front of a predominately white voting area?

How about a couple of guys in Alambam dressed in white sheets doing the same.

Voter intimmidation is against the law ... they violated the law ... they were found guilty and then the case dropped ... do I think this is serious ... Hell, yea, I do!

What was the kid doing that had his arms blown off ... they do not use kids as direct support of their terrorists ... sure they do ... wake up!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#84)

"I did not say do not send donations to Haiti." He said he loves to "tweak" the media. That's his MO...

"Oh...I really didn't MEAN what I said, folks..."

TYPICAL LIB ... OMG ...

"He didn't say it ... but I knew what he MEANT to say ... and he COULD have said it ...

THAT IS CLASSICAL ... For all the whole WORLD to see ...

war, you slipped up ... lol!

I know you to be better that this ... lol!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   21:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#83)

Which do you think is worse? A couple of black guys in front of a predominantly black polling place or a kid with his arms blown off from Made in USA ordnance?

Are you accusing him of being some type of racist? What the hell kind of question is that?


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   21:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: mel (#89)

Aren't you supposed to stalking someone on another forum?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   21:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Fred Mertz (#90)

Oh yeah --- You're right! I live for that crap! *rolls eyes* Been busy today and haven't had time for stalking. Maybe I can start up again tomorrow. ;-)

Oh - Wait - I'm stalking War and Tater-tot right now. OMG - I love tater- tots. Sonic still sells them with their value meals.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   22:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: mel (#91)

Lay off that fast food. It will make you a heavier married woman.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   22:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#92)

It appears that telling the truth has now become a revolutionary act. Why, even Bill O’Reilly said he donates to the Haiti Health fund because this bypasses the government. Rush stated that money to Haiti is siphoned off he never said to not give to the Red Cross. He asked why you would go to whitehouse.gov to give to the RC … and that is a legit question … needing an answer.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Fred Mertz, Mel (#92)

I love Tater-Tots too.

I love all Tots.

Palo loves everything.

I love palo.

I love you Mel.

Fred, get lost :o)

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#94)

I reviewed some material today and saw responses from Media Matters and the Huffington Post.

It is commonly accepted that Media Matters and the Huffington Post must have their demons, one of which is Limbaugh. And they will lie. This is a perfect example of both. I wouldn’t take too seriously a pack of liars who live in Fantasyland … I can’t take too seriously what any Lib says … however hard I try.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Tater (#93)

I remember watching the TV commercial after Katrina where Poppy Bush and Slick Willy were soliciting donations for the cause. Everyone in the tavern laughed and basically said to screw those two con men, they've got enough money.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   22:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#95)

Bottom line is: 0bamao wants to take credit for donations … that should be the story … not what Rush said.

Hey Obamamoo, give up your book proceeds and Peace Prize money to Haiti!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Fred Mertz (#96)

They were the "odd couple" ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: war (#98)

This should be right down you alley, war. I have read many of your posts to know this.

What in the Constitution makes it possible for Obama to take tax money and give it away, even in the event of a disaster?

Did not early Americans struggle with this as well?

Those people SHOULD be helped and they MUST be helped.

But I’m all for private donations, not government money … No way … it will just be stolen by the corrupt politicians there.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Mel, war (#99)

In the vernacular commonly spoken throughout the South:

Mel, I am “tared” … Whew, that war done “wore” me out.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Tater (#94)

Hey! I love Fred!


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: mel (#101)

Then ping him ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Tater (#102)

Should she ping me wiff bofe of dem?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   22:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Fred Mertz, Mel (#103)

lol!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: war (#104)

With all of his condemnation of Bush, let us now watch Obama's response … maybe he will learned it is not so easy being the President and handling a disaster far worse than Katrina.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: war (#105)

I see you had to go for now, I will wrap it up with this:

May there be a day when Americans go back to being Americans, then we will see the undo of Obama.

But as long as they are parasites voters who claim to be Americans and want something for nothing …
then Obama will always have voters.

No such thing as Obama voters having any “buyers remorse” … forget about that.

Next election he will promise them “free” anything they want again and once more they will vote for him.

Never ever bet against the stupidity of the idiots that call themselves “Liberals voters.”

Good night, war, wherever you are ... Thank you for a great exchange ...

Later

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Mel, Fred Mertz (#106)

Good night, Mel.

Good night, Fred.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-14   22:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Tater (#107)

Good night, Gracie.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-14   22:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Fred Mertz (#103)

ping...


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   23:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Tater (#105)

maybe he will learned

huh?


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mel  posted on  2010-01-14   23:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: mel (#110)

maybe he will learned

huh?

lol ... I was typing to quickly ... had other things to get to.

Was gonna say it either two ways, present or past ... screwed both together.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   5:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Liberator (#5)

Asshole. It was the truth. And you point at Obama ("setting fire to America"?? lol, retard) and somehow that makes it not the truth?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-15   8:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Liberator (#8)

Hilarious how quickly you and your chum turn to homoerotica, Luberator.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-15   8:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Tater (#106)

May there be a day when Americans go back to being Americans, then we will see the undo of Obama.

I have no idea what that means.

But as long as they are parasites voters who claim to be Americans and want something for nothing … then Obama will always have voters.

Why does big business, who, combined do NOT employ the most Americans, get the greatest benefits from the tax code? Better yet...why do they DEMAND it?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   8:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Tater (#106)

Good night, war, wherever you are ... Thank you for a great exchange ...

You too man...saw how late you were going at it...bet yer still abed...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Liberator (#6)

Exactly.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-15   9:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Tater (#87)

You see nothing wrong with a couple of guys in black uniforms (giving the appearance of LEOs) waving nightsticks in front of a predominately white voting area?

I'd have an issue with that...but that isn't what happened there...first off, IIRC, no connection was ever made between those men and the BPP...noone has come forward and claimed that they were denied the right to vote and when those men were told to leave, they did.

they were found guilty

By whom? Fox News?

What was the kid doing that had his arms blown off ...

It's his fault?

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war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Tater (#88)

"He didn't say it ... but I knew what he MEANT to say ... and he COULD have said it ...

I've asked you before...where has anyone claimed that he said DO NOT HELP HAITI?

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war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: mel (#89)

Wha...huh?

What the hell kind of question is that?

One of proportion...

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war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Tater (#100)

That was pretty good back and forth it was...

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war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Tater (#105)

With all of his condemnation of Bush, let us now watch Obama's response … maybe he will learned it is not so easy being the President and handling a disaster far worse than Katrina.

As in all things, Boy Blunder set the bar so low...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Tater (#27)

You quoted him accurately, and the transcript is available on his website.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-15   9:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: war (#85)

On MSNBC for the past 24 hours, dumbshit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-15   9:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Tater (#99)

What in the Constitution makes it possible for Obama to take tax money and give it away, even in the event of a disaster?

Congressional appropriation coupled to his Constitutional station of chief foreign policy officer of the US.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: war (#115)

...bet yer still abed...

lol ... I was up at 4:00AM MST ... doing the chores ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   9:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Tater (#99)

But I’m all for private donations, not government money … No way … it will just be stolen by the corrupt politicians there.

Private charities do not have the resources...any where NEAR...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   9:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: war (#117)

no connection was ever made between those men and the BPP...

Justice Department political appointees overruled career lawyers and ended a civil complaint accusing three
members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense of wielding a nightstick and intimidating voters at a
Philadelphia polling place last Election Day, according to documents and interviews.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/29/career-lawyers-overruled-on- voting-case/

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   9:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: war (#126)

Private charities do not have the resources...any where NEAR...

International Red Cross?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   9:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Tater (#127)

I know what's being reported in the media. I also know what law enforcement has been saying since the incident.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: war (#129)

Then they WERE BPP ... Right?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   10:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: war (#124)

Constitutional station of chief foreign policy officer of the US

That is designated in the Constitution ... where?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   10:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Badeye, war (#122)

You quoted him accurately, and the transcript is available on his website.

Thank you ... war just wanted me to send me running for something ... his method of debate.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   10:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: war (#121)

As in all things, Boy Blunder set the bar so low...

For which Obama continues to blame him over and over ... over and over ... over and over ... everything is "Boosch's fault."

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   10:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Tater (#128)

The relationship between the American Red Cross and the federal government is unique. The American Red Cross is an independent entity that is organized and exists as a nonprofit, tax-exempt, charitable institution pursuant to a charter granted to it by the United States Congress.

Unlike other congressionally chartered organizations, the Red Cross maintains a special relationship with the federal government. It has the legal status of "a federal instrumentality," due to its charter requirements to carry out responsibilities delegated to it by the federal government.

Among these responsibilities are:

to fulfill the provisions of the Geneva Conventions, to which the United States is a signatory, assigned to national societies for the protection of victims of conflict,

to provide family communications and other forms of support to the U.S. military,

and to maintain a system of domestic and international disaster relief, including mandated responsibilities under the National Response Plan coordinated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

Despite this close relationship with the federal government, the American Red Cross is not a federal agency, nor does it receive federal funding on a regular basis to carry out its services and programs. It receives its financial support from voluntary public contributions and from cost-recovery charges for some of its services, such as the provision of blood and blood products and health and safety training courses. Under limited circumstances, however, it sometimes becomes necessary for the American Red Cross to seek appropriations for certain programs when the funding requirements are beyond that supported by the charitable public. At times, federal and state government agencies also contract with the Red Cross and provide material aid and assistance to support the Red Cross in fulfillment of specific instances of its charter obligations.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: war (#120)

That was pretty good back and forth it was...

Ya, I thought it was a good one ... haven't done one of those for a long time ... you are great good ...

Gotta run now ... chores ...

Later ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   10:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Tater (#133)

"BUT CLINTON...!!!" is STILL heard from some quarters...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Tater (#132)

I know, then when you produce the facts, he 'baits and switches'. Its a waste of time, he's quite insane you know.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-15   10:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Tater (#132) (Edited)

...his method of debate.

Hold on there...the claim has been made by your "side" that Limbaugh was telling everyone to NOT donate to Haiti. NOWHERE has anyone claimed that he said that and you have been asked to provide any evidence that it was so claimed. WHAT has been claimed is that he has used Haiti to attack Obama.

Can you refute that?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Tater (#135)

... you are great good ...

I'll try harder next time coach!!!

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Tater (#131)

That is designated in the Constitution ... where?

Article II Section 2 USCON...

Here's is Madison's commmentary when Washington was criticized for declaring the US a neutral party when a dispute arose between france and England:

“Were it once established that the powers of war and treaty are in their nature executive; that so far as they are not by strict construction transferred to the legislature, they actually belong to the executive; that of course all powers not less executive in their nature than those powers, if not granted to the legislature, may be claimed by the executive; if granted, are to be taken strictly, with a residuary right in the executive; or . . . perhaps claimed as a concurrent right by the executive; and no citizen could any longer guess at the character of the government under which he lives; the most penetrating jurist would be unable to scan the extent of constructive prerogative.”

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: war (#138)

There you go again!

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-01-15   10:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Bartcoprules (#141)

Fuck...and I promised myself that I wouldn't do that here...

Hey...Pens/Sabes seem to play each other a lot coming up...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   10:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Badeye (#137)

I know, then when you produce the facts, he 'baits and switches'. Its a waste of time, he's quite insane you know.

Thanks ... I know his tactics well ... he is good

Thanks again ... I only post when I have time to spare ...

Nice talking with you ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   13:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Tater (#19)

Liberalism is looked upon as a mental disorder and this sick comment sounds like a fart from some Liberal. You have to twist good intent around to fit your personal agenda. A liberal sounding rubbish remark is boring talk. If you don't like Rush, then pay no attention to him. He has enough followers who like really like him. Don’t flatter yourself into feeling that he needs you.

Whatever. Anyone who listens to Rushbo for any amount of time and can't see he's a useless blowhard ain't that bright (you).

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-15   13:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: war (#138)

Hold on there...the claim has been made by your "side" that Limbaugh was
telling everyone to NOT donate to Haiti. NOWHERE has anyone claimed that he
said that and you have been asked to provide any evidence that it was so
claimed. WHAT has been claimed is that he has used Haiti to attack Obama.

It has been a day and many exchanges since … let me get this straight.

You say: NOWHERE (Emphasis Yours) has anyone claimed that he (Rush) said that (not to send donate to Haiti, send money, etc) and you (Tater) have been asked to provide any evidence that it was so claimed.

And I need to show you ANYWHERE or SOMEWHERE that SOMEONE said that Mr.Limbaugh ask that donations not be sent to Haiti.

We went back and forth … I really need to know what you are asking and what I need to prove.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Tater (#145)

And I need to show you ANYWHERE or SOMEWHERE that SOMEONE said that Mr.Limbaugh ask that donations not be sent to Haiti.

You need to show how from the article that started this thread and the responses that you can justify this statement:

As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti...

Tater posted on 2010-01-14 19:06:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: war (#146)

He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”

This implicitly discourages donations IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-15   15:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: war (#146)

You need to show how from the article that started this thread and the responses that you can justify this statement:

As it always is, and will continue to be, Rush was only partially quoted and some folks are swallowing the media set up. Rush never advocated NO aid be sent to Haiti...

Here is where my confusion lies ...

You are talking about the article here ...

And I am talking about what I heard Rush say ...

Please, I am NOT be evasive ... I am just a little confused.

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

I can also show you were many said that Rush did not say not to send aid to Haiti.

I heard Rush and he did not say NOT to send aid to Haiti.

Now, bear with me, again ... I may be able to get the transcript from Rush's program ... or links to the other two ...

Which do you want?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: war (#146)

Here's what I found.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...

A Letter to Rush Limbaugh / / / January 14, 2010

To: Rush Limbaugh From: Roger Ebert

You should be horse-whipped for the insult you have paid to the highest office of our nation.

Having followed President Obama's suggestion and donated money to the Red Cross for relief in Haiti, I was offended to hear you suggest the President might be a thief capable of stealing money intended for the earthquake victims.

Here is a transcript from your program on Thursday:

Justin of Raleigh, North Carolina: "Why does Obama say if you want to donate some money, you could go to whitehouse.gov to direct you how to do so? If I wanted to donate to the Red Cross, why do I have to go to the White House page to donate?"

Limbaugh: "Exactly. Would you trust the money's gonna go to Haiti?"

Justin: "No."

Rush: "But would you trust that your name's gonna end up on a mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?"

Justin: "Absolutely!"

Limbaugh: "Absolutely!"

That's what was said.

Unlike you and Justin of Raleigh, I went to Obama's web site, and discovered the link there leads directly to the Red Cross. I can think of a reason why anyone might want to go via the White House. That way they can be absolutely sure they're clicking on the Red Cross and not a fake site set up to exploit the tragedy.

But let me be sure I have this right. You and Justin agree that Obama might steal money intended for the Red Cross to help the wretched of Haiti.

This conversation came 48 hours after many of us had seen pitiful sights from Port au Prince. Tens of thousands are believed still alive beneath the rubble. You twisted their suffering into an opportunity to demean the character of the President of the United States.

You have a sizable listening audience. You apparently know how to please them. Anybody given a $400 million contract must know what he is doing.

That's what offends me. You know exactly what you're doing.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-15   15:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Tater (#148)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

That one...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Fred Mertz, war (#147)

He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.” This implicitly discourages donations IMO.

Did you hear the 6 hours of his program ... did you read the entire transcript ... or ... are making a judgment on what someone said he said?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Bickus Dickus (#149)

When your reduced to quoting Ebert, you should shut down the computer.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-15   15:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Okay ... I think I understand what you want ... sorry for my confusion.

I will get those for you ... "many" (scratching head: how many) ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Fred Mertz (#147)

This implicitly discourages donations IMO.

I agree...but my point is that NO-ONE has accused Blimpy of advocating that Haiti be given absolutely no help.

I could be wrong.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Tater (#153)

Okay...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh's

argument against

sending aid to Haiti [1]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:49:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh

says Do not

donate to Haiti ... [2]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:50:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh:

Don’t Donate to

Haiti Victims [3]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:52:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh Tells

People Not To

Donate Money To Haiti [4]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:53:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh Tells

People Not To

Donate Money To Haiti [5]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:54:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

Rush Limbaugh urges people

not to donate

to Haiti earthquake relief efforts [6]

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:56:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: war (#150)

I can show you where many said that Rush said not to send aid to Haiti.

"many" ... please tell me when to stop ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   15:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Tater (#158)

Your first two links clearly cite donating through the WH website...the third falls more into the penumbra of your complaint but the source is hardly one that reaches any significant plurality.

So, while granting you partial credit, I'd feel better about your argument were your sources more mainstream.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: All (#163)

Again 4 and 5 fall within your penumbra but are hardly mainstream. #6 clearly cites the WH website.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   15:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Tater (#164)

Oops...ping to above...

I'll also note that these are ex post facto to our discussion last night, no?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   16:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: war, Fred Mertz (#154)

This implicitly discourages donations IMO.

I agree...but my point is that NO-ONE has accused Blimpy of advocating that Haiti be given absolutely no help.

I could be wrong.

Guys, I heard him ... and I promise you that I am being as objective
as I possibly can be ...

He did talk about donations ... income tax ...

He NEVER said, or implied, that money should not be sent to Haiti.

He dis say, or imply, that it should not be worked thorough, or sent through, the White House and they had apparently directed emails be sent to them.

Questions ...

Now, I can show you just as many, or more links that agree with my statement.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: war (#164)

Again 4 and 5 fall within your penumbra but are hardly mainstream. #6 clearly cites the WH website.

Fits "anyone" ... "anywhere" ... "anytime"

Quibbling there just a bit, war?

I listened to the MSM on TV and News ... They were making the STRONG IMPLICATIONS (since I cannot qote them exactly) that Rush had said NOT to send donations to Haiti.

I know WHAT Rush said and did not say ... I personally heard him.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: war (#165)

I'll also note that these are ex post facto to our discussion last night, no?

Yes, but that is not the point ... I read that yesterday and that is why I posted it ... I just cannot find the exact link where I found it.

Do you REALLY want me to go find one dated yesterday, or do you now want to stop quibbling?

I know what Rush said and did not say ... I heard him ... all six hours ... and all three hours most every day ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: All (#168) (Edited)

WAR 0
...
...
Tater 1

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Tater (#167)

Quibbling there just a bit, war?

Well...maybe just a bit. It's my own fault though for not establishing parameters. So, as I said, you get credit for establishing that some may have misrepped what Blimpy said but it is hardly widespread or widely disseminated...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   16:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Tater (#166)

He NEVER said, or implied, that money should not be sent to Haiti.

Now this is where you and I will again disgree. He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   16:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: war (#139)

I'll try harder next time coach!!!

LOL!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: war (#170)

Quibbling there just a bit, war?

Well...maybe just a bit. It's my own fault though for not establishing parameters. So, as I said, you get credit for establishing that some may have misrepped what Blimpy said but it is hardly widespread or widely disseminated...

Thanks.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   16:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: war (#171)

Now this is where you and I will again disgree. He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.

Let me go check that ... we have been back and forth so much on this, that I am getting about cloudy on what he said. I like to be accurate ... I am will admit when I am wrong.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   17:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: war (#171)

He did say that US taxpayer money should NOT be sent.

Okay, I did my part. I went to his Web site and I did the Google thing.

I cannot find where he said that "US taxpayer money should NOT be sent."

Link me to a few sources for the quote.

I remember he said too much had been sent, it would go to the wrong hands and a lot of other things ... but I simply cannot remember if he ever said NONE should be sent now.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   17:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Tater (#175)

C;mon Tater...you're parsing here...

Is Rush for or against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti to help them?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   21:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: war (#176) (Edited)

Is Rush for or against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti to help them?

Does he still beat his girlfriend?

I went everywhere and I could find no place where he said he was against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti ... have you seen a quote by him where he said this.

I did find one place that said since he did not definitely say that he was for it ... then he must be against it ... but that was just some stupid lib using the fallacy of deductive reasoning.

Generally, here is a shopping basket recap of what I found:

Here is but one interpretation by a blogger of what Rush said … there are many like this: He (Rush) asked people not to send their donations to White House saying they shouldn’t waste their hard earned money on something like this.

That is a bold face lie and solely intended to discredit Rush. Rush insisted that people should still donate, but go through private channels like the Red Cross.

The radio host advised listeners not to donate to a Haiti relief fund set up by the White House. This is true.

Limbaugh suggested that people don't need to donate because they already have through income taxes, and that the money probably wouldn't go to help the people of Haiti any way. The most that would happen, he suggested, is that donators would end up on an Obama campaign mailing list. He said "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the US Income Tax."

He did say the last sentence … I heard him say that … but the setup leading into it is incorrect. The writer took portions of his words and gave them into a different meaning.

So, what was he talking about? Was he telling people that they shouldn't try to help out the Haitians? No. He was telling people not to donate to Obama administration led initiatives. Not to send money to the White House.

Look at the following left-handed remark, this is like someone surrendering under a white flag and some bastard still shoots him: Rush himself said that he said he didn't say "don't send money to Haiti." But does that mean that's how he feels inside? We will never know - only he knows what he feels.

And see the spin Gibbs put on it: For his part, Gibbs says it's unfortunate that Limbaugh would convince people, through whatever means, not to donate to people in need.

I don’t usually swear … but I will now … this is why I hate these lying BASTARDS in the media … they never seem to get it right … they only write and speak it the way they want it heard … to Hell with the truth! Facts be Damned!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   22:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Tater (#177)

I went everywhere and I could find no place where he said he was against US taxpayer dollars being sent to Haiti ...

Then why the rant?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   22:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: war (#178)

Then why the rant?

Who ... me or Rush?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2010-01-15   22:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Tater (#179)

Ha...

Rush...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-15   22:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: war (#142)

Hey...Pens/Sabes seem to play each other a lot coming up...

Sabres are hot lately

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-01-16   11:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: go65 (#0)

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-16   11:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: war (#119)

;-)


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mel  posted on  2010-01-16   16:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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