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Title: In their attempt to help ... the homeless - support liberals - stand for almost nothing hard to stand for --- they have become what they wanted - nothing.
Source: wsj.com
URL Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/starbu ... corporate-workforce-1542130200
Published: Nov 13, 2018
Author: By Julie Jargon - Steven Mcdonald
Post Date: 2018-11-13 16:40:18 by BorisY
Keywords: diversadespairians diversadesp, diversadespairians diversadesp, diversadespairians diversadesp
Views: 768
Comments: 48

Starbucks to Lay Off 5% of Corporate Workforce

The coffee chain slims down as it aims to respond more quickly to consumer trends

Starbucks has said getting more customers in its doors remains its primary challenge.

24 Comments

By Julie Jargon

Nov. 13, 2018

Starbucks Corp. SBUX -0.74% is planning to lay off approximately 5% of its global corporate workforce as it seeks to become a more nimble company.

Jan Paul Koch

They are not police friendly and are against lawful CCW: what goes around comes around (a/k/a karma).

Michael Hall

Hold on a minute. These people were asking for a dollar to "save the world" a few years ago. Now they are laying people off? I mean you cant save your own staff but you are going to save the world? Right. Loopy, liberal, coffee thats awful.

Steven Mcdonald

Starbucks pulled open the door for competition, and propped it open with the significant decline in the quality of the store experience.

And I am not referencing the associates, who continue to be the best in the industry.

SBUX stores are terrible, smelly, dirty places where people come to hang out without any intent of buying anything. Most of what goes out of the stores in SF is the stuff that is stolen, on a daily and hourly basis.

In their attempt to help the homeless, support liberals and stand for almost nothing hard to stand for - they have become what they wanted - nothing.

Peet's is already way ahead, and there are others closing the gap quickly. SBUX needs new leadership - maybe even a DNA transplant.

Sell now, they are too stubborn to change.


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#1. To: BorisY (#0)

neppoTism

"Nepotism is good!" - XIIIeme Vicomte de France

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-19   14:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

SBUX needs new leadership - maybe even a DNA transplant.

Some TesTosTerone

You Too

ChrisTian love
boris

BorisY  posted on  2018-11-19   18:23:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BorisY (#2)

Starbucks coffee tastes burnt to me. I don't like like it.

I don't care what their causes are or aren't. The Church could operate a coffee shop that went to the holiest of purposes. I still wouldn't go there if the coffee sucked. Sell me a product I like, and I'll buy it even if I don't care for your politics. Dunkin' Donuts has good coffee, so I buy it. Havana Club rum is made in Communist Cuba by the government. It's good. I'll buy it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-19   19:46:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Someone where I'm aT

Was playing guanTonamero on The piano

CaughT my aTTenTion

Sad

a beauTiful song from cuba

Taken over by communisT

Love
boris

BorisY  posted on  2018-11-19   20:08:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BorisY (#4)

Taken over by Communists because the preceding right wing military dictatorship did not ensure that the people had jobs, housing and enough to eat. Some were very rich, some were literally in rags and starving. Under the Communists everybody has a job, a house and enough to eat. Under the right wing government that preceded it, there was neither education nor health care for the poor. Today, there is, and everybody in Cuba can read and write, and they have longer life expectancies than Americans.

The same thing was true in China. And in Vietnam. And in Russia, before their revolution.

People do not natively and instinctively want to be Communist. They want to be left alone, and to be able to rise in the world. But there is a basic level of security that is required for survival, and when traditional states allow the wealthy to progress to great wealth, leaving everybody else not just behind, but a substantial portion of the people literally ignorant, in rags and without food, people rebel to survive. They rebel, and they win too, because there are always more poor people in all such systems than rich ones.

Cuba could have avoided a Communist revolution and instead been like any other Western country. The rich and the better off would have had to agree, of their own volition, to redistribute SOME of their wealth downward, to feed, house, educate and medically care for everybody. That's not a small cost but a heavy one. The alternative is what happened.

This is what FDR understood, but the American Right does not. If you don't want Communism or National Socialism, you have to have democratic social welfare - HAVE TO. Modern industrial society has too many people concentrated in cities, where the effects of poverty and downturns and joblessness are too dire, too fast. Private wealth will not react fast enough to crises. Or rather, it could, but it won't, because in crisis private wealth is protecting itself, as is only natural. The state has to do it. When the state does it intelligently, as in Western Europe, the US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc., you still have regulated free market capitalism and the opportunity to make great wealth, but everybody can read, nobody starves or dies in the street for want of care.

If you don't want Cuba, or China, or Russia, or Vietnam, or the Third Reich or Mussolini's Italy or Franco's Spain, you have to strike the balance that FDR struck. To avoid national socialism or communism you must have social welfare. All history has shown this.

The Right, particularly the American Right, stubbornly refuse to accept this. They have rejected that reality since 1932. Which is why they have never had real power since 1932, and can never advance their agenda other than at the cranky margins - generaily by cutting taxes but not services, so the deficit explodes, and then, like clockwork, about 6 years later the market collapses and people return the Left to power.

To avoid that, the Right has to sign onto the New Deal. That's the bottom line. Eisenhower did, and his was the greatest Presidency of the post-war era.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-20   6:30:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5) (Edited)

N Korea musT be quiTe appealing To you

Normal people

Escape The schizoid quadrangle

Of public obsessive haTe / love - power - fear - greed - envy - revenge

Via

political apaThy - indifference - freedom - happiness - personal success

You should Try navigaTing iT

An undisTurbed compass needle

PoinTs norTh

ETerniTy
boris

ps

science as Taught by MilTon Friedman

two Types

posiTive science - how Things are / work - realiTy

then

normaTive science - how you want Things To be - fail / bs - ruin - deaTh

They are opposiTes

BorisY  posted on  2018-11-20   7:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BorisY (#6)

N Korea musT be quiTe appealing To you

North Korea is an oppressive shithole.

Connecticut is appealing to me. So is Minnesota, and Wisconsin, and Michigan. Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, Iowa. These places are appealing.

Also France, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Austria, Luxembourg, Canada - very appealing.

Places with strong social welfare states and strong personal liberties: that is what appeals to me.

Places where things become weirdly leftist, like California - this does not appeal to me. Nor do places where people love the smack of police authority. Those are unappealing places also.

In other words, the places with the healthiest, smartest, longest-lived and most economically successful people in the world appeal to me. And I notice that all of them are social welfare states. They are not Communist, nor socialist paradises where everything is owned by the state. In fact, most of them are quite traditional: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Canada - half of my list of countries are constitutional monarchies with official established state religions!

The American states are places that are socially liberal - social liberalism means that people are free to be left alone. I approve of that - especially given that the American Right are such judgmental oppressive bastards - you can't even talk to these assholes with them swearing at you.

They are also the best educated people. I appreciate education, it makes for more creative and forward-looking people.

North Korea is a disgusting horror show. I'll take Connecticut, thanks.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-20   9:00:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

Like I said

Head of gold

FeeT - Toes of clay

Timber
boris

Ps

I'll sTay

WiTh The Rock of Ages

BorisY  posted on  2018-11-20   13:00:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BorisY (#8)

Ps I'll sTay WiTh The Rock of Ages

Send postcards!

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-20   15:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

There's no shipping

Paper producTs

For where you are going

Hell

Good bye
boris

BorisY  posted on  2018-11-20   17:50:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BorisY (#10)

There is no Hell. There is only Gehenna and the Lake of Fire.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-20   19:16:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

Vic the rat king thinks christ is a liar and the Poope shit is god. Vic is antichrist. He denies God's word is true. He goes to a faggot loving church. He likes abortion and thinks it's necessary.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-20   19:58:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

A K A Stone is a rage comic.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-20   21:33:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

You have said abortion is necessary without welfare. Jesus never said something so dumb.

Jesus taught from the Bible. You have in fact said that the Bible is not Gods word. You say you only believe the words attributed to Jesus. Jesus quoted from scripture and said it is all profitable. He said it is the word of God. You disagree. That is the spirit of antichrist. Since Christ used scripture that you dont think is gods word. That means you think CHrist is a liar.

I said faggot loving church. Because there are hundreds of articles about faggot stuff in the catholic church. THe pope even promotes these people. So that is accurate also.

Back to abortion. You did say it is necessary if no welfare. That is why you said you would vote for mass abortion activist Hillary Clinton instead of Cruz. Probably because Hillary supports your welfare theft scheme and Cruz doesn't. Meaning you are more pro abortion then anti thief.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-21   8:00:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)

You guys on the Right are one-note charlies. You have a certain approach to religion, which very much sounds like the Taliban. You hate my religion, and I think yours is a complete joke.

So, we can't talk about religion, because we each hold the other's in utter contempt. You think mine is full of Satan worshippers, and I think yours is full of mouth-breathing morons.

Obviously there is no common ground on religion.

So where IS there common ground, then? On economics? No. What, then?

On guns? Gun rights is one of those subjects I don't care about either way. So, my support for the Second Amendment, which has always been pretty stalwart, is PURELY a concession made to my political allies, people on the farther- Right, like you. I support a cause you care about because you care about it, and I expect reciprocation.

Funny thing I've noticed over the years from bosses and friends and acquaintances and co-religionists: people on the Left reciprocate. Even in bed. The farther on the Right, the less reciprocation.

You're some damaged people over there. I have had compassion for you, which is more than you deserve because you are so damaged you have damn little for anybody else.

But you know, when you get shit on every day by the same people, over the same things, and there is no reciprocation, it wears thin.

I've listened to you guys scream that I'm not a Christian so many times that I have started to use your vocabulary. You're right, I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic. YOU guys are Christians, and your religion is disgusting, hateful, ignorant and opposed to God. OF COURSE you never experience miracles like I have, why would God grant you people miracles? You spit on his people and despise them. You live in fear and misery and spite, just exactly as people who oppose God and are damned ought to live, given a just God.

You are idolators. I want nothing to do with your false religion and your stupid, selfish ideas.

When it comes to abortion, yep, that's too bad. I want to end it, and I speak realistically about what would be required to move enough of the electorate over to the side that would tolerate its ending. But you people farther to the Right are just retards. You have no capacity to negotiate with people, to compromise on anything. That is why you end up poor, marginalized, uneducated and clinging to your false miracles and your fellow ignoramuses in peeling little prayer houses where the pastor, who is better educated than all of you, is frequently fucking the best looking wives.

Whatever. You do you.

Abortion will never be abolished in this country, because you people are too stupid to be able to do anything to make it happen. And you attack people like me when we try to speak of what would be required.

Then we come to economics. You've decided that I'm a Communist, because I support social welfare. Once again, you demonstrate your poor education, and you demonstrate exactly why you people are not only not qualified to lead, but are never, ever allowed to.

According to you, I'm not a Christian. Ok. You have the word. I don't want to be anything like you.

According to you, I'm a Communist, Socialist, thief. Well, whatever you are, politically, I'm not. I thought I wanted to find common ground with people like you.

Now I just despise you. You are insuting, ignorant pricks. You live in relative poverty because you are stupid, and your stupid religion blocks your ability to actually get an education that will get you out of your shitholes. So rot there. I don't care.

The funny thing is that welfare is mostly spent on white "Christians" in rural states. That's where most of it goes. Then it goes to the black "Christians" in urban areas. You want to kill off that aid.

I've always stood there in the breach, but you know, I'm in the highest tax brackets, if you idiots actually succeed in killing off social welfare, I'll get richer and YOU will be the ones in poverty in your old age.

I used to care about you. But I've had enough of you shitheads. Yes, let's kill Social Security and Medicare - they are the most expensive. Or better, let's kill Social Security and Medicare for Republicans and Christians - the people who say they want to live without them. Then you can rely on your chaotic little churches and your Jimmy Swaggarts and Joel Osteens to help you out, because you have "faith" in them.

Go to it. I never considered voting Democrat before. But I have to say, having marinated in Right wing Republicans for all of these years, I find you to be vile people. You swear at me and curse me and call me names. I answer with humor.

You're a bunch of fucking immoral scumbags. I want nothing to do with you. I've come to my senses. I always stood on the same side as you, but really, I'm like a good person waking up in the German Army of 1944 and realizing that, actually, I think FDR's Americans on the other side are right, and my side is wrong and has been all along.

You've managed to do it! You've persuaded me that I am nothing like you, and that I have no reason to CARE any more about people like you. Go die in a hole.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-21   11:54:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#15)

The funny thing is that welfare is mostly spent on white "Christians" in rural states.

There are no stats on if you are a christian or not when you get welfare.

Do you even know what the truth is?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-24   13:54:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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