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Title: Giving Food to the Homeless Shouldn’t Be a Crime
Source: Foundation For Economic Education
URL Source: https://fee.org/articles/giving-foo ... homeless-shouldn-t-be-a-crime/
Published: Nov 9, 2018
Author: Carey Wedler
Post Date: 2018-11-12 09:39:54 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 246
Comments: 19

By Carey Wedler

Government has long been characterized as inept. It’s easy to forget that sometimes it can be downright cruel.

The latest example comes from Missouri, where the Kansas City Health Department is under fire after employees bleached food intended for the homeless because the people supplying it did not have the proper permit.

On Sunday, officials from the health department, accompanied by armed police officers, stopped volunteers with Free Hot Soup Kansas City from feeding the homeless at four locations, claiming the food had not been inspected.

“Officers and health inspectors demanded we destroy our food and we were violating health code violations by sharing meals with our friends,” said Nellie McCool, who has participated in efforts to feed the homeless for years.

The health department has defended its crackdown, claiming officials had previously informed the volunteer group that they needed to obtain a permit.

“They were notified back in a meeting in September that they needed to get a permit, and they just outright said they refused to do that,” said Dr. Rex Archer, Director Of Health for KCMO, according to KSHB, a local Kansas City outlet.

McCool denies this. “We never had any kind of government official ever come and speak with anybody at any of the public parks,” she said.

Regardless, according to the department’s write-up of the Sunday incident, officials destroyed the food, citing the lack of a permit, and insisted the action was taken to protect public safety.

“This operation claims to care about folks, but if you care about folks, you want to prepare food safely,” Archer said, confirming that using bleach to destroy contraband food is standard policy.

In a tweet elaborating on the agency’s position, officials claimed they blocked the volunteers because their gatherings are “open to the general public,” and the food is not stored at the “required temperature for food safety” when it is transported to serving locations throughout the city.

McCool claims that Free Hot Soup Kansas City should be exempt from the regulations, arguing that they are not an official organization and were simply sharing food with friends in a picnic-like manner.

“As far as I know, picnics are not regulated by the same laws as organizations and vendors, so by using our public parks to have a picnic with our friends, I don’t believe we were breaking any rules,” she told local outlet KCUR. Archer disputed her position. “If it’s a family picnic, it’s for the family, and it’s at one location. So it was pretty clear that this was an operation that was operating illegally,” he said.

McCool believes government officials disapprove of their efforts and have sought “to bully [them] into becoming an organization.”

It seems counter to the basic tenets of liberty for a government entity to assert it can restrict others from engaging in acts of charity—or receiving it—because there may be a risk involved. Freedom involves risk, and when people are living on the streets, it seems reasonable to assume they might like the option to take their chances on food donated to them.

Though this incident has sparked heated debate in Kansas City, it is hardly unique. Local governments nationwide have been restricting well-meaning citizens from feeding the homeless for years.

In 2014, a 90-year-old veteran in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, was cited and arrested multiple times for feeding the homeless without a permit in an ongoing ordeal that ultimately led a circuit court to temporarily halt the policy. Earlier this year in San Diego, California, a group of activists was arrested for the same offense. Following Hurricane Michael, a viral video circulated of health department officials in Panama City, Florida, apparently shutting down food donations because those distributing it, once again, did not obtain the proper permitting from the health department. (The Florida Department of Health in Bay County did not return FEE’s email seeking to confirm the video’s authenticity.)

In a positive development, the Supreme Court ruled in August that feeding the homeless is protected under the First Amendment after Fort Lauderdale activists sued over the city’s permit requirement.

At a broader level, however, similar nanny state measures have produced everything from regulations restricting what types of beverages can be listed on children’s restaurant menus to banning people from feeding pigeons. Violations of such rules come with hefty fines and even jail time.

Restrictions against feeding the homeless, and in multiple cases outright destroying what is likely perfectly safe food, seem particularly misguided and harmful, as do measures preventing Good Samaritans from providing them with shelter.

As is so often the case with intrusive government policy, those most in need end up the victims. “[G]rown men and women [were] crying as they watched good, hot food made with so much love be destroyed right in front of them,” one of Free Hot Soup’s administrators said of the incident.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

And if the homeless became sick after eating the food, would Free Hot Soup Kansas City pay their hospital bills or would the taxpayers be expected to pick up the tab?

If Free Hot Soup Kansas City will pay for it, then they should be allowed to serve whatever they want without a license or inspections. This is called "taking personal responsibility".

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-12   9:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

Giving Food to the Homeless Shouldn’t Be a Crime

Feeding the animals causes dependency. Simple, provable SCIENTIFIC FACT.

If someone is starving and their family, friends or religious group doesn’t feed them, then being the weakest link, they should die. It’s how EVERY species on this rock has survived. Not everyone deserves a trophy.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-11-12   11:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#1)

And if the homeless became sick after eating the food, would Free Hot Soup Kansas City pay their hospital bills or would the taxpayers be expected to pick up the tab?

It's people like you who crucified Christ.

If Jesus was feeding the people. You would come with Roman Legionnaires and harm jail or kill them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-12   12:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

If Jesus was feeding the people. You would come with Roman Legionnaires and harm jail or kill them.

No need. The Roman taxpayers were not forced to pay for the care of the poor when someone else poisoned them.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-12   13:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

Roman taxpayers were not forced to pay for the care of the poor when someone else poisoned them.

Jesus didn't poison anyone you moron.

Go suck on a Trump Grill Taco Bowl!


Hondo68  posted on  2018-11-12   13:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#2)

iving Food to the Homeless Shouldn’t Be a Crime

Feeding the animals causes dependency. Simple, provable SCIENTIFIC FACT.

If someone is starving and their family, friends or religious group doesn’t feed them, then being the weakest link, they should die. It’s how EVERY species on this rock has survived. Not everyone deserves a trophy.

Are you a Republican?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-12   14:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

In a tweet elaborating on the agency’s position, officials claimed they blocked the volunteers because their gatherings are “open to the general public,” and the food is not stored at the “required temperature for food safety” when it is transported to serving locations throughout the city.

McCool claims that Free Hot Soup Kansas City should be exempt from the regulations, arguing that they are not an official organization and were simply sharing food with friends in a picnic-like manner.

Right, they are just having Sunday picnics with family and friends.

They are preparing and delivering food to the public, and violating required safety standards. They claim to be exempt from training required by the Kansas City Health Department "for anyone that works directly with the preparation or cooking of food."

Their legal theory of said exemption appears to be wishful thinking.

http://kcmo.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2013/09/Kansas-City-Mo.-Food-Code.pdf

Kansas City, MO. Food Code

(18) "Consumer" means a PERSON who is a member of the ublic, takes possession of FOOD, is not functioning in the capacity of an operator of a FOOD ESTABLISHMENT or FOOD PROCESSING PLANT, and does not offer the FOOD for resale.

[...]

(40) "Food" means a raw, cooked, or processed edible substance, ice, BEVERAGE, or ingredient used or intended for use or for sale in whole or in part for human consumption, or chewing gum.

[...]

(45) Food Establishment.

(a) "Food establishment" means an operation that stores, prepares, packages, serves, vends, or otherwise provides FOOD for human consumption:

(i) Such as a restaurant; central preparation facility; catered feeding location; catering operation if the operation provides FOOD directly to a CONSUMER or to a conveyande used to transport people; market; vending (location) operation; conveyance used to transport people; institution' or FOOD bank; and

(ii) An operation that is conducted in a mobile, stationary, temporary, or permanent facility or location; where consumption is on or offf the PREMISES; and regardless of whether there is a charge for the FOOD.

[...]

3-201.11 Compliance with Food Law.*

(A) FOOD shall be obtained from sources that comply with LAW.

(B) FOOD prepared in a private home may not be used or offered for human consumption in a FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.

[...]

3-202.11 Temperature

...

(D) POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS FOOD (TIME/TEMPERATURE CONTROL FOR SAFETY FOOD) that is cooked to a temperature and for a time specified under §§ 3-401.11 - 3-401.13 and received hot shall be at a temperature of 57ºC (135ºF) or above.

http://kcmo.gov/health/food-handler-and-manager-training/handler-and-manager-class-information/

Who needs to receive this training?

The Food Handlers Training Program offers classes for two types of food workers:

  • Food Handler's Training. This training is the Kansas City, Mo., classroom course for anyone that works directly with the preparation or cooking of food.

  • Food Safety for Managers/Owners Training. This class is mandatory for all owners and/or managers of food establishments.

One may buy from a selection of their T-shirt stylings on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Official-Free-Hot-Soup-T-Shirt/dp/B07G2TCDNJ

https://www.amazon.com/Official-Free-Hot-Soup-Shirt/dp/B07FYW64CQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1542062669&sr=1-5&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=free+hot+soup

For those who prefer, there are hoodie stylings, also on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Official-Free-Hot-Soup-Hoodie/dp/B07FSY747F/ref=sr_1_3?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1542062669&sr=1-3&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=free+hot+soup

nolu chan  posted on  2018-11-12   17:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

I’m a registered INDEPENDENT, nit wit. I told you that a few posts ago.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-11-12   19:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#4)

No need. The Roman taxpayers were not forced to pay for the care of the poor when someone else poisoned them.

I kind of get your point. But take it a step further.

The people who made those rules are not the ones giving and receiving aid. So why be hard on them for doing something that you might be in favor of yourself if the law was different?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-12   19:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#2)

Feeding the animals causes dependency. Simple, provable SCIENTIFIC FACT.

If someone is starving and their family, friends or religious group doesn’t feed them, then being the weakest link, they should die.

We are not animals though.

You should show compassion for weaker people. That is a good trait. Helping the truly needy doesn't mean you agree with the welfare sham system we have today.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-12   19:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

1) We are not animals though.

2) Helping the truly needy doesn't mean you agree with the welfare sham system we have today.

1) We actually are animals.

“an·i·mal /ÈanYmYl/Submit noun 1. a living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli.”

We just happen to be higher on the food chain than all others. Sometimes, the liberal tree huggers and PETA assholes forget that fact.

2) If someone “truly needs” help, than I expect their family, friends or religious peers to pay for it. If they don’t have that... then I agree. That would remove 90% of the sheep from the welfare lines.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-11-12   22:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)

The people who made those rules are not the ones giving and receiving aid. So why be hard on them for doing something that you might be in favor of yourself if the law was different?

Because giving and receiving aid is not the issue. The issue is what happens if the receiver becomes ill.

IF the giver agrees to take responsibility, then I have no problem with that. But if the giver and receiver expect the taxpayers to pay for their recklessness, then the taxpayers should be allowed to set some basic ground rules.

The people complaining about "too many laws and regulations" are the same ones who demand immunity from personal responsibility and expect the rest of us to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   9:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu chan (#7) (Edited)

Their legal theory of said exemption appears to be wishful thinking.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   11:10:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#13)

Who is the guy you posted the picture of ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-11-13   12:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Stoner (#14)

Josh McDermitt who plays the character Dr. Eugene Porter in the AMC series The Walking Dead. It's the way he talks.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-13   12:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner, Reverend Jim Jones (#14)

Who is the guy you posted the picture of ?

The Statist Kool-Aid inspector, Reverend Jim Jones.

Drink up, it's Government approved.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-11-13   12:52:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone, misterwhite (#9)

The people who made those rules are not the ones giving and receiving aid. So why be hard on them for doing something that you might be in favor of yourself if the law was different?

Ideally, it would not be illegal. But those who vote for a nanny state get the nanny laws and regulations that come with it.

Free Hot Soup Kansas City (or Portland, Oregon), or wherever else they may have "franchises," may have been better served by just serving the hot soup and not drawing attention to themselves by branching out, or selling t-shirts on Amazon.

When the agency responsible for enforcement of the Food Laws loses any possible plausible deniability of the unauthorized and non-compliant food operation, it must enforce the code or it will be subject to liability. The same litigators who defend the supposed "family picnics" will be just as happy to litigate against the agency for culpable negligence should the non-compliant food service operation cause a few dozen or more sick consumers and maybe a few deaths.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-11-13   14:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nolu chan (#17)

The same litigators who defend the supposed "family picnics" will be just as happy to litigate against the agency for culpable negligence

How dare you allow me to operate in such a careless manner!

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-14   10:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan (#17)

The same litigators who defend the supposed "family picnics" will be just as happy to litigate against the agency for culpable negligence

You know, that's probably how the law came about. People got sick or died from these vendors and someone sued the city for not regulating and inspecting them.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-11-14   10:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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