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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Opinions/Editorials See other Opinions/Editorials Articles Title: Freeper :When civil war comes, propagandists like Lemon will be legitimate military targets. Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3701863/posts#1 Published: Nov 1, 2018 Author: backwoods-engineer Post Date: 2018-11-01 09:51:27 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 3333 Comments: 37 When civil war comes, propagandists like Lemon will be legitimate military targets. Just like Julius Streicher was in WWII. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 2. #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) When civil war comes, propagandists like Lemon will be legitimate military targets. Just like Julius Streicher was in WWII. A civil war is possible, but it does not seem very likely. Trump is going to win next Tuesday. His party will easily win the Senate, securing his ability to continue to fill the judiciary (which, in the long game, is the key to victory). And they will hold the House, securing him from impeachment, and allowing for a much more rapid application of his plans. The Democrats will have been defeated politically, twice in a row (Trump's election, and now this), and they will be absolutely staggering under the blows. Unable to launch successful political attacks, there will be tremendous demoralization on the Left, and a substantial number of moderate Democrats and centrist independents who have voted Democrat in the past will follow the stronger horse. The Democrats won't be energized by their defeat at all. Some radicals will, but that won't touch off a civil war. Rather, it will be a subject addressed by law enforcement, in a country in which the Right already controls most of the apparartus of power. The much more significant outcome of the election will be the crushing of the Bushite/Romneyite Right, the Republican Party of the Country Club. The whole Russia investigation, the whole shadow government of the GOP that has actually resisted Trump, will have also been decisively defeated. There have been a huge number of that sort of people's retirement from Congress. When the Republicans win on Tuesday, it will be a new Republican party - Trump's party - the Tea Party, if you will, but disciplined by Trump's control and focused on him as the leader. The political civil war within the Republican Party will have been won: the country club will have been defeated, and the Bushite and Romneyite holdouts will be banished from power. In the aftermath, the Republican party will obey Trump, and will swiftly move in Congress to follow his lead. We have already seen the switch with Graham, one of the most obnoxious anti- Trump voices of the past four years. McCain is dead, and Graham has watched Trump win, the Democrats lose and the country club wing of the GOP, that he has always hung onto, lose. He has already substantially shifted colors and fallen into line behind Trump. After this election the Never Trumpers will be a rump, and they will not hold any of the major levers of power in the GOP anymore. Trump will. Rosenstein and co. will swiftly shut down the Russia investigation, and Mueller will either fall in line and EXONERATE Trump, further burying both the Democrats AND the Never Trump right, OR he will try some sort of last-ditch Never Trump report, and be fired. Yes, there will be yet another effort to make a brouhaha over it, but the Trumpish victory in the election will have not just given the real practical power to Trump, but have demonstrated the truth: the American voters do not give a damn. So, at worst Mueller and the Never Trumpers will try to use law enforcement and investigation to bring down Trump - a last ditch - and Trump will demonstrate that the Justice Department and the investigative power of the United States belongs to the popular President and his powerful popular party, and that the people have taken sides and DON'T CARE about legalities and rigged investigations. With all of the power flowing to Trump and the Tea Party Trumpers, the Republicans will cave and submit completely - the ALTERNATIVE is for that investigative power to be turned on them individually and their wealth and power stripped individually - because Trump's people are just as capable of carrying out vindictive prosecution as those who have attacked him, but the people Trump will crush with the prosecutorial power are NOT the Chief Executive of the nation with immunity and veto and commander-in-chief authority. In other words: Trump cannot be destroyed by the Koch brothers, but the Koch brothers can be destroyed by Trump and the Justice Department. Therefore, the Kochs, and the Romneys, and the Bushes - all of them on the Right, will kneel before Trump and submit to him. Never Trump ends with Trump's victory next Tuesday. With a demoralized country club Right and a demoralized Left, and all the reins of power in his hand, Trump will move SWIFTLY to enact his agenda. He will be very much like FDR, except that FDR didn't control the Supreme Court and had to break it. Trump starts out with the Court - the election will have broken his enemies. The economy will surge, and the bulk of the people will be pretty happy. "Trumpism" will become the "New Deal" and America will politically realign behind it just as America realigned for two generations between the New Deal and the Great Society. The illegal immigration surge will end and, with manufacturing jobs coming back and able to support families, mark 1 mod 0 American families will start having kids again, stabilizing the traditional political majority, and thereby making civil war less and less likely. There won't be a civil war. There will be a Trumpish future. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-01   10:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) You talk as you know what will happen. I'm hopeful but I don't have your certainty. Hopefully you are correct. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-11-01   11:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 2. #5. To: A K A Stone (#2) You talk as you know what will happen. I'm hopeful but I don't have your certainty. Hopefully you are correct. We shall see. I've got a bet riding on this, just like I did on Trump's election. If I lose, I will have to fly to Chicago, bottle of fine single-malt Scotch Whiskey in hand, and admit defeat in person to two people and buy them steak dinners, and listen to them as they gloat. When I win, those two people will have to get on planes from Chicago and Michigan, respectively, and fly to New York, then take cars out to Connecticut, bringing me bottles of fine vodka (one each: Tito's and Grey Goose), and treat me to a steak dinner, at which I will gloat and lord it over them - just like I did after Trump's win back in November, 2016. Events have developed following the template that I have expected, and I see no reason to doubt they will continue to do so. I expect that the Republicans will be net +5 in the Senate, and net +2 in the House. After that, I expect a swift end to the Mueller probe with no accusations against the President. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-11-01 11:55:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 2. 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