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Title: Texas Teens Taught How to Live in a Police State
Source: TechDirt
URL Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2 ... ow-to-behave-around-cops.shtml
Published: Oct 22, 2018
Author: Tim Cushing
Post Date: 2018-10-27 11:27:29 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1763
Comments: 15

from the HOW-NOT-TO-GET-SHOT dept

To graduate from high school in Texas, you must first be able to show you won't provoke police officers into shooting/tasing/beating you during a traffic stop. That's according to a new state law that ran through the legislature under the guise of solving police/community relationship problems. (via Popehat)

In the aftermath of several fatal police shootings of unarmed citizens, Texas lawmakers sought to pacify tensions between law enforcement and civilians. The state legislature brought civil rights groups and law enforcement organizations together to develop a solution: the Community Safety Education Act, which was signed into law last year.

The bill requires any student entering ninth grade in the 2018-2019 academic year and thereafter to participate in a class and watch a video instruction on how to interact properly with officers during traffic stops. Without a notation of attendance on their transcripts, seniors cannot receive diplomas.

To "pacify tensions" brought about by cops killing unarmed people, we're instructing teens to become docile subhumans who should only respond to the presence of law enforcement in the manner law enforcement prefers. That's the gist of the Community Safety Education Act Instructor's Guide [PDF], which not only tells people to remain suitably cowed during traffic stops, but also gets the law wrong.

The problems with the instruction manual (and the law... and required course itself...) begin at the beginning, in the "Tips for Educators." The guide says instructors should remind students of their rights, as well as warn them that exercising them could get them killed.

Students may ask about citizens videotaping traffic stops. It is a citizen's right to videotape. Drivers and passengers should be aware that unknown items in a citizen's hand may cause safety concerns for officers.

In short, it's best not to record a stop for your own personal safety because there's no telling what a professional highly-trained in law enforcement and force deployment might do if they see something in someone's hand -- even if that something is 1,000,000x more likely to be something everyone carries with them (a cellphone) than a weapon. Most people aren't going to escalate a traffic stop into a murder one charge. But that's hardly reassuring to highly-trained law enforcement officers, who are led to believe every interaction with the public carries the potential of death and destruction and respond to every movement like bunnies scattering at the sound of a stepped-on twig.

Since highly-trained law enforcement officers are completely unpredictable, it's up to Texas' education system to crank out harmless teen drivers. Hence the stupid law and the stupid course, which comes with graduation strings attached.

The "notes for drivers" says it's "recommended" officers treat drivers courteously, but there's certainly no law requiring courteous behavior, much less one that withholds a police academy diploma until would-be officers of the law complete their "Don't Be An Asshole" course.

The advice given is basically this: do everything a cop tells you unless they tell you to stop doing it or to do something else. The course says students have the right to refuse vehicle searches, but kind of portrays assertions of rights as a way to get arrested.

And the guide gets the law wrong: specifically, Texas' "failure to identify" statute. Here's what the guide says:

Although it is lawful for you to remain silent during a traffic stop, you are required by law to truthfully identify yourself when asked to do so by an officer. A driver or passenger can be arrested for giving false identifying information to an officer.

The second part is true. The first part isn't. That's OK. Texas law enforcement officers can't manage to wrap their minds around this law, so it's unsurprising a teacher's guide put together by politicians is inaccurate. The law actually says [emphasis added]:

A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

A traffic stop is a detention, not an arrest. It likely makes little difference in the context of a traffic stop, where documents asked for by officers will likely identify the driver with or without their verbal input. But placing this misinformation inside a required course will likely cause students to think this applies everywhere, not just during traffic stops. It doesn't. An officer needs to arrest a person before they can legally demand identification. And officers can't use a refusal to provide identification as the basis for an arrest.

Passengers aren't required to ID themselves. They're only forbidden from providing false information -- the same as the driver. But the teacher's guide makes the same mistake again in its "Notes for passengers."

Although it is lawful for you to remain silent during a traffic stop, you are required by law to truthfully identify yourself when asked to do so by an officer.

The law does not require this. It does not require it of drivers, even though proving you can legally operate a vehicle tends to undermine any "remaining silent" about your identity. Passengers, however, have nothing to prove, so this course is telling high school students something that simply isn't true and will only contribute to Texas law enforcement's continued abuse of the statute.

It would be bad enough if the mandatory course was limited to "pacifying tensions" by implying unpredictable civilians are what really needs to be fixed. But the course goes even further by getting the law wrong. So, high school students will be forced to attend a pointless course containing misinformation to be considered educated enough to secure a diploma.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Since highly-trained law enforcement officers are completely unpredictable,

Unlike predictable citizens who, as the author admits, present a one-in-a- million chance of killing a law enforcement officer.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-10-27   11:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

Teaching students about the dangers of interacting with police is something I've advocated in the past here on LF. If people/teens & even youngsters are going to be shot for not holding things right, taking things out of their pockets, or pulling up their shorts while on the ground after playing Simon Says with militarized police with "You're F**ked" inscribed on their rifles, then yes, people need to be educated about how not to trigger a deadly police response by doing otherwise ordinary things.

Yes, any education should be accurate as to legal rights, of course.

But if we are going to teach them about the dangers of drugs, sex and a number of other things, adding cops to the list seems appropriate to me.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-10-27   13:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)

Yes, any education should be accurate as to legal rights, of course. [Teaching students about the dangers of interacting with police is something I've advocated in the past here on LF. ]

Your entire perspective is defensive, in nature. Why can't the US Government control the police force to operate within established rules of behaviour to begin with? If, the US Government is representative of the People and operating within the US Constitution, we need to address the root cause of failure of excessive use of force by the police, not some make-believe, "patch-work" quilt that is simple reactionary kneejerk worthless bullshit.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-10-27   13:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

Your entire perspective is defensive, in nature. Why can't the US Government control the police force to operate within established rules of behaviour to begin with? If, the US Government is representative of the People and operating within the US Constitution, we need to address the root cause of failure of excessive use of force by the police, not some make-believe, "patch-work" quilt that is simple reactionary kneejerk worthless bullshit.

You are right. I won't disagree with that.

But I guess my position is: If this is how things are going to be where police shoot anyone they are trained to perceive as a threat, THEN people need to be acutely aware that this is their mentality.

And if there's going to be any hope of changing the trained mentality of the police, then taking this step of educating the public about what their mentalitiy is needs to be done.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-10-27   15:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

you must first be able to show you won't provoke police officers into shooting/tasing/beating you during a traffic stop.

The populace isn’t functional enough to learn how to act like a human instead of an animal... and the inner city potatoes and sovereign citizens can’t be taught shit.

BREATHE EASY... DONT BREAK THE LAW.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-10-27   15:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)

The populace isn’t functional enough to learn how to act like a human instead of an animal

I worry about you. You have your self-made rules.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-10-27   15:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#5)

The populace isn’t functional enough to learn how to act like a human instead of an animal...

Typical unhinged response - I'm sure that's what you were taught at Police Academy.

"If you're not cop, you're little people".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-10-27   16:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#2)

Yes, any education should be accurate as to legal rights, of course.

But if we are going to teach them about the dangers of drugs, sex and a number of other things, adding cops to the list seems appropriate to me.

Has to work both ways - cops need to be appropriately trained to not view every citizen as a criminal.

As it stands now, we are all considered potential cop killers.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2018-10-27   16:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#3)

Why can't the US Government control the police force to operate within established rules of behaviour to begin with?

Because the citizens don't?

You think the bad guys obey the Marquess of Queensberry Rules?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-10-27   16:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#7) (Edited)

Typical unhinged response - I'm sure that's what you were taught at Police Academy.

I actually base my opinion on over 10,000 responses to the SHEEPS abodes over a period of 17 years. Actually dealing with the populace as they call for help because they are either unfortunate, stupid or dysfunctional. That’s called a real scientific study, numb nuts. What do you base your opinions on, that the SHEEP remain as functional today as 30 years ago? Your vast experience in the libtard LameStreamMedia?

Here it is, putz. As we move LEFT. As the populace becomes more government enabled... as more and more people flock to live in inner city zoo’s... the populace is becoming harder to interact with, regardless if you’re LE or not. Add the dysfunctional increases to an ever increasing DRUG dependency... and you got a lot more SHEEP that will end up beat, tased, pepper sprayed or SHOT.

But feel free to use the dysfunctional circumstances of today, and use that for your false anti cop, bad cop epidemic propaganda.

And you are “little people”, you dumb shit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-10-27   16:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#6)

You have your self-made rules.

I live by the rules written into law by elected officials. That’s how we were set up to roll. Dumb shit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-10-27   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)

I live by the rules written into law by elected officials.

Yeah right. You are the new George Washington of the modern age, "I did not chop down the cherry tree."

buckeroo  posted on  2018-10-27   19:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite, GI, Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#9)

Baby libertarian Godzilla saves Fred from Nolu/GI investigation.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-10-27   21:05:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68, misterwhite, GrandIsland, Fred Mertz, nolu chan (#13)

ROTFL

buckeroo  posted on  2018-10-27   21:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68, buckeroo (#13)

Good one, hondolt! Hi Bucky!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-10-28   1:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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