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Title: What Can Be Done When They Come for the Guns?
Source: SHTF Plan
URL Source: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne ... hey-come-for-the-guns_10082018
Published: Oct 8, 2018
Author: Jeremiah Johnson
Post Date: 2018-10-09 11:22:00 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 3854
Comments: 33

One of the bad things about writing an article such as this one is that no matter what position it takes, it is attacked by an army of naysayers and protesters. This may seem innocuous, but it is not. In reality, it detracts from attempting to make a productive point of discussion. Their objective is to foster argument and conflict. Some are paid trolls and shills, and others genuinely feel the need to stand up and be heard…even if just to argue a point…whether that point has merit or not. Akin to Colin Kaepernick, protesting years after he lost in the Super Bowl to the Ravens and not during…after he was cut from the team…protesting an “injustice” that never existed.

But they never include their E-mail addresses or identities, perhaps because their vitriolic comments may be interpreted by the authorities as threats that warrant charges. 

In the end, they won’t be around to help you when you need it. You’ll need to think on your feet. Nothing that I’ve written for you has ever been to harm you or to not provide you with either information or “food for thought,” and I’m not about to reverse my position. We are at a juncture that most people do not recognize…on the precipice of tyranny. This piece is going to give you information that you can act on or choose not to act on. In the end, it is your decision and you’re on your own with it.

What to do when they come for the guns. 

In truth, there are many things you can do about it. I’ll put out some information, but I’m not telling you what to do, nor advocating doing it.

  1. Have some to “feed” them if they come: If you bought any semiautomatic rifles (erroneously and intentionally termed “assault rifles”) thorough Mr. Legal/Western Consumer Marketing procedures? There’s a record of your purchase…and that record is on file forever. They will not overlook whatever you purchased. For those “Davy Crockett” naysayers who will “defend until they’ve breathed their last?” Yes, that’s exactly what will happen: you will breathe your last. Christopher Dormer was a maniac on the run, but in the end, the cabin he holed up in burned to the ground…droned, no doubt. One thing is to “feed” them part of what you bought. Concept: “The Secret of Santa Vittoria,” with Anthony Quinn…where the town sacrificed 200,000 bottles of wine…to hide a million bottles from the German army in WWII.
  2. Disassemble, protect, stash: Take a weapon apart, and break it down into its groups…bolt, barrel, so on. Coat it with protectant/oil/grease, wrap it in plastic, and it could be stashed where it will not be found.
  3. Cache off-property: self-explanatory, but pick a national forest, a state forest, or a remote wilderness area. We have covered enough information on caches, and you will have to take the idea here and develop it.
  4. Cache on-property: here more care will be exercised, but if you follow step #1? Chances are your property will then not be searched…and I don’t mean Barney Fife walking around the grounds. I’m talking about teams with metal detectors, combing every inch of ground, and probably searching your house as well.
  5. Sewers: Yes, nobody likes going in the sewers…including the cops. After coating with protectant, wrap in 3 layers of waterproof plastic, and attach a line securely and where no one can find it or grab it.
  6. Sale or Trade: getting rid of what has been purchased under record, and either buying something to replace it or trading for it…outside of Happy Mr. Gun Store-Channels.
  7. Hidden spaces: House or Storage Unit: this would involve either some major “innovations” in “home improvement” or utilizing existing spaces and structures to accommodate your needs.

This last one you would have to be especially careful with. The detection devices the State will use are not to be taken lightly. I’m giving you these ideas for starters. There are more, but I’m not going to give you what I would do. Understand what you’re dealing with. I write articles such as this one. If you think they don’t notice this, you better think again. They also notice that you read these articles. They know (and have recorded) all your e-mails, comments, and key strokes. This is the age where you must take extreme precautions, because what is coming down the pike will not be good. Food for thought with this article. Take the information and ideas, formulate your own plans, and run with the ball when you feel it’s the time.


Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne).  Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate of the U.S. Army’s SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape).  He lives in a cabin in the mountains of Western Montana with his wife and three cats. You can follow Jeremiah’s regular writings at SHTFplan.com or contact him here.

This article may be republished or excerpted with proper attribution to the author and a link to www.SHTFplan.com.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

What is the satisfaction and personal reward you get from purposely and needlessly trying to arouse public fear about an issue?

Why do you continually try to scaremonger as you repeatedly spread such ridiculously exaggerated rumors of some fictious impending danger?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-09   12:01:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin, Songbird Tater, squeeler rat fink (#1)

Tater is a clear and present danger, be prepared.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-10-09   13:57:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#3)

Tater is a clear and present danger …

You bet your “cotton picking ass” that I am definitely a “clear and present danger” to every asshole Paultard libertarian as I continue to condemn them for having such a preposterous fantasy.

So preposterous that one can only wonder how alleged intelligent adults can seriously entertain it.

Ah, but the power of the human mind to rationalize things is truly awesome in their mythical world.

… be prepared.

Your warning is futile for there is absolutely no way to “be prepared” from my attacks with more “truth bombs” released than could ever be imagined.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-09   14:50:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#4)

Oh wait, now I remember you.

Aren't you the clown who believes that Americans have no right to defend themselves against government tyranny?

Look asshole - the plan all along is to DISARM American citizens.

Your ignorance does not negate that fact.

Deckard  posted on  2018-10-09   16:53:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#6)

Oh wait, now I remember you.
You obviously don’t.

Whether it's occasional forgetfulness or loss of short-term memory that is now so obviously interfering with your daily life, there are many causes of memory loss.

To what do you attribute your poor memory problem?

Is it medications, alcohol or drug use?

I strongly suspect the latter based on your posting history and how you constantly promote the use of drugs.

Aren't you the clown who believes that Americans have no right to defend themselves against government tyranny?
Nope!

And “there you go again” using your inflammatory rhetoric….”government tyranny.”

What do you mean “tyranny?”

I look at the historical definition of tyranny and see that it referres to a ruler (“tyrant”) who is not legitimate, according to the law or tradition of the country. In simple words, he did not properly come into the line of rule but as in the inheritance, like kings.

Defend “themselves against government tyranny?”

Why worry about defending against government tyranny when the absolute best way to avoid tyranny is to implement a governmental system of checks and balances. The United States did that a long time ago.

The Founding Fathers brilliantly saw to that task when they established our system of government in which each branch keeps a check on the other branches with no one branch controlling too much power. You do agree, don’t you?

If you avoid tyranny, which our system of government was designed to do and effectively does, then there is no use to needlessly concern yourself worrying about defending against tyranny?

Est-ce pas vrai?

Look asshole - the plan all along is to DISARM American citizens.
Show “the plan” of which you speak and anticipate the usage thereof. Can you?
Your ignorance does not negate that fact.
Your lonely sole assertion does not validate the drastic and incomprehensible radical action you allege.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-09   18:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin, Take the Guns First, NYC Left Wing Loon, Trump, tyrannical scofflaw, *Bang List* (#9) (Edited)

Look asshole - the plan all along is to DISARM American citizens.

Show “the plan” of which you speak and anticipate the usage thereof. Can you?

Left Wing Loon President Trump advocates Chairman Mao's position on firearms ownership.

He says that there will be a ban on bump stocks in a couple of weeks, and he's also pushing Stop and Frisk. All of these are violations of the 2nd amendment, with some 4th amendment violations thrown in for good measure.

He's very dedicated to the David Hogg/Dianne Feinstein agenda.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-10-09   18:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#10) (Edited)

Left Wing Loon President Trump advocates Chairman Mao's position on firearms ownership.

In your effort to demonize President Trump and feel you are attempting in some way to prevent him from taking weapons out of the hands off the people when he is doing no such thing, you have now through your blatant stupidity ignorantly joined the zealots who fabricate malicious claims to attack President Trump.

One of the false assertions is the repeated claim that “they” are coming to take your guns away like the commie Chairman Mao did. This is perhaps the most repeated fear statement and thusly links gun control to communism for a paranoidal association. This association is done so it will appear that anyone who supports gun control is portrayed as being a communist.

The automatic association you have made here between Trump and communism is just plain dishonest and thoroughly exposes your ignorant and scheming ways. Shame on you….shame on you!

Go make a check and get back to me if you find on any website that deals in Chinese law, a law that prohibited anyone from having any guns during the revolutionary period in China. I contend there is literally no law during the revolutionary period that prohibited anyone from having any guns and furthermore, there is absolutely no source for claiming that the Party took people’s guns away.

I challenge you to prove me wrong.

In your search for the truth you will find that during the revolutionary time the people in China were armed. They carried their guns to work, carried them into the fields and carried them everywhere.

No, Mao didn’t ban people from having guns. Mao’s government officials were the ones that gave guns out to people in order to arm their “People’s Army."

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-09   20:41:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin, Peers Morgan Tater (#12)

Quit making up lies attempting to defend Mao & Donnell.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-10-09   21:28:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)

THE MEME YOU POSTED:

“All political power comes from the barrel of the gun: You register and ban the firearms before the slaughter.” Mao Tae Sung 1938
Mao definitely said the first part, but nowhere is there anything to show he ever said "you register and ban the firearms before the slaughter."

So, I’m here to tell your deceiving and lying ass that Mao never said: “You register and ban the firearms before the slaughter.”

You need to stop putting out false bullshit and trying to pass off a lie as a factually true historical quotation just to promote your sick agenda.

You are just like Deckard, another sick POS who will blindly believe anything you find on the Internet, especially if it feeds your confirmation bias.

Mao never wanted gun control.

Mao wanted the laboring people to awaken to the importance of having guns in their own hands. He said that by having guns, they can create Party organizations. He continued by saying that tjey can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements and everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. He continued saying that all things grow out of the barrel of a gun. Mao then concludes by saying that experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches them that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the laboring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed.
You have been reading the words of a man who wanted guns in the hands of the working class and the laboring masses.

Mao never wanted to take the guns from laboring class or keep the guns out of their hands.

YOUR MEME IS PURE BULLSHIT – IT IS A LIE AND SHOULD BE TAKEN DOWN.

I will now present the 1938 paragraph below that contains the CORRECT phrase; the central phrase (in bold), cited as deriving from the 1938 speech via the Selected Works, is thr EXACT wording given in Mao's Quotations.

Communists do not fight for personal military power (they must in no circumstances do that, and let no one ever again follow the example of Chang Kuo- tao), but they must fight for military power for the Party, for military power for the people. As a national war of resistance is going on, we must also fight for military power for the nation. Where there is naivete on the question of military power, nothing whatsoever can be achieved. It is very difficult for the labouring people, who have been deceived and intimidated by the reactionary ruling classes for thousands of years, to awaken to the importance of having guns in their own hands. Now that Japanese imperialist oppression and the nation-wide resistance to it have pushed our labouring people into the arena of war, Communists should prove themselves the most politically conscious leaders in this war. Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the labouring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed. We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.
Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung, Vol. II, pp. 224-225[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_grows_out_of_the_barrel_of_a_ g un.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-09   23:15:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin, Butthurt liberal (#18)

Hondo68  posted on  2018-10-10   1:01:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#19)

Who took the guns?
It matters not WHO took the guns.

It matters greatly that you continue to post LIES and I say that it’s time for Stone to bridle your lies and reign you in from continuing to post them.

To this end, I am now calling on Stone to immediately delete your posts #15 and #19 that contain unproven accusations….in other words, multiple lies.

I challenged you on the Mao quote lie by showing you where the quote you posted was a lie when I reproduced the entire paragraph containing the correct remark Mao made in 1938.

But that did not phase you and now “here you come again” when you continue to post the SAME lie in post #19 showing that something happened with Mao and you are unable to verify it happened.

It is bad enough when you post a lie where you tried to show that in 1938 Mao Ta Sung said “you register and ban the firearms before the slaughter” and you cannot show a source for that quote.

But it is far worse that you are posted a FLAT OUT LIE about President Donald Trump and I am here to say that you have gone TOO far with your constant lying.

You have now passed being repulsive when you lied with an accusation where you stated that “Left Wing Loon President Trump advocates Chairman Mao's position on firearms ownership” thereby accusing President Trump of contemplating a Mao position and action that Mao NEVER stated or held.

STOP with the damned LIES, hondo !!!

Gatlin  posted on  2018-10-10   6:10:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#21)

I am now calling on Stone to immediately delete your posts #15 and #19

Yet you want to continue to post your commie propaganda and declare your love for Chairman Mao.

Deckard  posted on  2018-10-10 06:12:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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