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Title: HIT & RUN BLOG Brett Kavanaugh's Illegal Beer Consumption Highlights the Perversity of Drinking Ages
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Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/30/ ... naughs-illegal-drinking-highli
Published: Sep 30, 2018
Author: Jacob Sullum
Post Date: 2018-10-01 05:25:38 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1088
Comments: 7
Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh mentioned beer 28 times during his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee last Thursday, inviting mockery and semiotic speculation. The reason the subject came up was pretty clear: Christine Blasey Ford, the California research psychologist who says he tried to rape her when they were both in high school, described him as very drunk at the time, and one possible explanation for his seeming sincerity in denying her charge (in addition to the possibility that he is innocent) is that he honestly does not recall the episode because alcohol clouded his memory. In response to repetitive questioning on the subject, Kavanaugh said no fewer than 10 times that he has never experienced alcohol-related memory gaps. But the discussion of Kavanaugh's drinking during high school and college ranged beyond that narrow issue, and his responses were by turns defiant, evasive, implausible, and misleading. The tenor of those exchanges was partly due to Kavanaugh's resentment of questions he deemed nosy and irrelevant. But it also reflected the clash between official expectations and the reality of adolescent drinking in America, a contradiction that he and his interlocutors seemed keen to ignore. "My friends and I sometimes got together and had parties on weekends," Kavanaugh said in his opening statement. "The drinking age was 18 in Maryland for most of my time in high school and was 18 in D.C. for all of my time in high school. I drank beer with my friends. Almost everyone did. Sometimes I had too many beers. Sometimes others did. I liked beer. I still like beer. But I did not drink beer to the point of blacking out, and I never sexually assaulted anyone." Later he added that "the drinking age, as I noted, was 18, so the seniors were legal, senior year in high school, people were legal to drink." As several news outlets pointed out, the drinking age for beer and wine in Maryland, where Kavanaugh lived and went to school, was raised from 18 to 21 in July 1982, seven months before his 18th birthday. In other words, it was not legal for him to drink in Maryland at any point during his high school years. It would have been legal for him to buy and consume beer in D.C., which did not raise its drinking age from 18 to 21 until 1986, for most of his senior year, but it sounds like the parties to which he refers generally happened in Maryland. The fact that "the drinking age was 18 in Maryland for most of my time in high school" no doubt made it easier for underage students like Kavanaugh to obtain beer, but it did not make it legal. Once Kavanaugh started attending Yale in the fall of 1983, the legal picture was more complicated. The drinking age in Connecticut at that point was 20, an age Kavanaugh did not reach until February 1985. It rose to 21 that September, but Kavanaugh would have been grandfathered, since he had already turned 20. In other words, it was illegal for Kavanaugh to drink as a freshman and the first semester or so of his sophomore year, a period when he, like most of his peers, nevertheless drank. I was born the same year as Kavanaugh (1965), and I had a somewhat similar experience at Cornell. The drinking age in New York initially was 19, but it rose to 21 as of December 1985. Unlike Connecticut, New York did not give a pass to people who were already drinking legally at that point. So I entered college an underage drinker, became legal in September 1984, and a year later became illegal again, a status that lasted for a year. Since I have given up all hope of a Supreme Court nomination, I can readily admit that the varying legality of my alcohol consumption had no impact on it, except that I sometimes relied on older friends to buy liquor for me. What's true in college is also true in high school: It is quite common for students to drink, even though it's illegal. In last year's Monitoring the Future Study, 56 percent of high school seniors reported drinking, down from 87 percent when Kavanaugh was in his last year at Georgetown Prep. When Kavanaugh says "almost everyone" his age was drinking, he is right. Underage drinking was the rule, not the exception, when Kavanaugh was in high school, and it would be strange to hold it against him. But instead of saying that, he misleadingly implied that his beer drinking complied with the law. Kavanaugh did admit that he sometimes drank too much, but he was evasive in explaining what that meant. "What do you consider to be too many beers?" asked Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor posing questions on behalf of the committee's Republican members. Kavanaugh's response beggared belief: "I don't know. You know, we—whatever the chart says, a blood-alcohol chart." It is, of course, laughable to imagine Kavanaugh and his high school buddies consulting "a blood-alcohol chart" before deciding whether to have another brewski. But even if we take Kavanaugh to mean that he was careful not to drive while intoxicated, that does not really answer the question. For someone who is not planning to drive, the question of how many beers are too many has little to do with the legal standard for DUI. A good rule of thumb might be that you've drunk too many beers if you find yourself vomiting or waking up with a hangover. Young people learn their limits through practice, and those limits vary from person to person. How often Kavanaugh drank to excess in high school and college, and exactly how drunk he was on those occasions, is a matter of some dispute among people who knew him then. But it is safe to assume that he drank a lot, as was (and is) common for high school and college students. It does not follow that he experienced blackouts, that he became aggressive, or that he assaulted Ford (or anyone else). I drank a lot in college, too much on more than a few occasions, but never found myself in a situation where I could not remember what had happened the night before or needed other people's help to piece it together. Nor was that a common experience in my social circle, although I can't speak for Kavanaugh's. Whatever did or did not happen between Kavanaugh and Ford, this much we know: As a teenager and young man, Kavanaugh drank illegally, and sometimes he drank too much. In those respects he was not at all unusual compared to his peers, who officially were not allowed to drink, did it anyway, and sometimes "had too many beers." You might even think there is a relationship between illegality and excess, since prohibition pushes drinking underground and makes it harder for young people to learn from older drinkers who might know a thing or two about how to stop short of too many beers. Instead high school and college students bumble along, learning from mistakes they might have avoided. Nowadays almost none of them are legally allowed to drink, even though many of them are considered adults in almost every other respect. They therefore drink on the sly, which is not conducive to moderation or responsibility. That perverse situation was the unacknowledged subtext of all the beer talk at Thursday's hearing.
The Supreme Court nominee's teenaged tippling was typical, although the law pretends otherwise.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Or hers. She did admit to drinking beer -- without her parents knowledge or permission -- at an unsupervised party with older boys when she was only 15. It seems to me that Kavanaugh's memory was very clear -- his story matched the sworn testimony of three others whose names were provided by Dr. Ford. If anyone had a clouded memory, it's Dr. Ford who couldn't remember shit.
BUT … the author is going to go ahead and insinuate it anyways. Which is why he wrote the article.
BUT … the author is going to go ahead and insinuate it anyways. Which is why he wrote the article. THAT's what you took away from this article? Try reading it without your rose-colored Trump glasses.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Well, given that the headline was Brett Kavanaugh's Illegal Beer Consumption Highlights the Perversity of Drinking Ages and the article did nothing but talk about Kavanaugh's drinking, yeah.
In other words, it was not legal for him to drink in Maryland at any point during his high school years. It would have been legal for him to buy and consume beer in D.C., which did not raise its drinking age from 18 to 21 until 1986, for most of his senior year, but it sounds like the parties to which he refers generally happened in Maryland. The fact that "the drinking age was 18 in Maryland for most of my time in high school" no doubt made it easier for underage students like Kavanaugh to obtain beer, but it did not make it legal. Well, as long as your source is going to state what the legal drinking age was in Maryland and D.C., they should have gone the extra mile and given full, accurate information. Maryland raised its legal drinking age for beer and wine to 21 on July 1, 1982 but with a grandfather clause for those born June 30, 1964 or earlier. Brett Kavanaugh was not born on or before June 30, 1964. The District of Columbia raised its drinking age to 21 on September 26, 1986, but with a grandfather clause for those who turned 18 before October 1986. Brett Kavanaugh turned 18 before October 1, 1986. Kavanaugh stated that the legal age to drink beer in Maryland was 18 and seniors were legal to drink beer. 18 year old Conservative seniors, and Liberals such as Deckard and hondope who turned 18 in fourth grade, and all others 18 or over, were legal to drink beer in Maryland until July 1, 1986. Kavanaugh stated he was 17, never stated he was 18 in 1982, and never stated he was legally eligible to drink beer in Maryland in 1982. He was a lawbreaker. He consumed brewskis in Maryland in 1982 while under the age of 18. Once he turned 18, Kavanaugh would have been eligible to drink beer in D.C. The Columbia Country Club was just over one (1) mile from D.C. The relevant question is not whether Kavanaugh consumed a few brewskis in Maryland while he was 17 and underage, but whether he was a sloppy drunk with blackouts and memory loss. Conflating underage drinking with drinking to blackouts and memory loss is the argument of desperate losers. Kavanaugh said no such thing. The article needs to distort what he said to reach their conclusion. The seniors who were 18 years old were legal. Only an idiot would infer that the high school conferred drinking provileges by advancing students to their senior year. The legal drinking age was 18, as was clearly stated. In the summer of 1982, Kavanaugh had not started his senior year. Kavanaugh was born February 12, 1965. Christine Basey Ford was born November 1966. "After three years of dating and partying, they married on November 14, 1992, the day before his 44th birthday. He was 18 years older than Keyser at the time. " Leland Keyser was assertedly 26 years old on November 1992 which infers she was 16 on November 14, 1982. Oh noes.
In those days, anyone who didn't go to DC the minute that they turned 18 and buy beer and grope drunken sluts, ain't normal. Everyone that I knew did.
This is all irrelevant. She must prove her case which she clearly can not. Who cares if he drank beer legally or not. He might even thought it was legal at the time. Brett and I are about the same age and I can not tell you when I started drinking alcohol legally or even when it became legal. Another stupid reason article. They just can not help themselves. I just do not see why they can not write about something relevant! Like all libertarian rags they just have no common sense. Which in my opinion is why libertarian's will never ever gain power. They extreme nature just causes them to shoot themselves in the foot!
"... and one possible explanation for his seeming sincerity in denying her charge … is that he honestly does not recall the episode because alcohol clouded his memory."
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
It does not follow that he experienced blackouts, that he became aggressive, or that he assaulted Ford (or anyone else).
#3. To: misterwhite (#2)
It does not follow that he experienced blackouts, that he became aggressive, or that he assaulted Ford (or anyone else).
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#4. To: Deckard (#3)
THAT's what you took away from this article?
#5. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite (#0)
As several news outlets pointed out, the drinking age for beer and wine in Maryland, where Kavanaugh lived and went to school, was raised from 18 to 21 in July 1982, seven months before his 18th birthday.
When Kavanaugh says "almost everyone" his age was drinking, he is right. Underage drinking was the rule, not the exception, when Kavanaugh was in high school, and it would be strange to hold it against him. But instead of saying that, he misleadingly implied that his beer drinking complied with the law.
"The drinking age was 18 in Maryland for most of my time in high school and was 18 in D.C. for all of my time in high school. I drank beer with my friends. Almost everyone did. Sometimes I had too many beers. Sometimes others did. I liked beer. I still like beer. But I did not drink beer to the point of blacking out, and I never sexually assaulted anyone." Later he added that "the drinking age, as I noted, was 18, so the seniors were legal, senior year in high school, people were legal to drink."
Whatever did or did not happen between Kavanaugh and Ford, this much we know: As a teenager and young man, Kavanaugh drank illegally, and sometimes he drank too much. In those respects he was not at all unusual compared to his peers, who officially were not allowed to drink, did it anyway, and sometimes "had too many beers."
#6. To: nolu chan (#5)
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
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