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Title: Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh’s College Years
Source: The New Yorker
URL Source: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news ... -college-years-deborah-ramirez
Published: Sep 23, 2018
Author: Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer
Post Date: 2018-09-23 21:58:16 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 1683
Comments: 32

Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh’s College Years

By Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer
The New Yorker
7:49 P.M.

Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Brett Kavanaugh’s, has described a dormitory party gone awry and a drunken incident that she wants the F.B.I. to investigate.

As Senate Republicans press for a swift vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation, and at least two have begun investigating it. Senior Republican staffers also learned of the allegation last week and, in conversations with The New Yorker, expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh’s nomination. Soon after, Senate Republicans issued renewed calls to accelerate the timing of a committee vote. The Democratic Senate offices reviewing the allegations believe that they merit further investigation. “This is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. It should be fully investigated,” Senator Mazie Hirono, of Hawaii, said. An aide in one of the other Senate offices added, “These allegations seem credible, and we’re taking them very seriously. If established, they’re clearly disqualifying.”

The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence. The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in the incident. “I would think an F.B.I. investigation would be warranted,” she said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Plan B has been rolled out.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-23   21:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nolu chan (#0)

I started to read the details until I nearly fell asleep.

Is she credible?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-23   22:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan, Toga Party, Animal Kavanaugh (#0)

Toga Party!

The movie Animal House was inspired by Kavi's fraternity parties.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-23   22:12:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#3)

You might want to seek mental health therapy, hondolt. I say that as a friend.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-23   22:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

Is she credible?

As credible as Christine Blasey Ford. "The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident." She calls for an FBI investigation.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-23   22:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan (#5)

She calls for an FBI investigation.

I saw that elsewhere and thought, WTF.

Who calls the feds out except me? FBI are lightweights.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-23   22:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Who calls the feds out except me? FBI are lightweights.

Someone who claims they had a dildo waved at them in the 1980s. She was seemingly traumatized by the sight of a rubber dick.

The FBI can have a sketch artist make a rendering of what Ramirez saw and put it on a Wanted poster. Have you seen Dick? Last seen in 1984.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-23   23:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz, the rest of the story, Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity, Truth and Courage, nolu chan (#6)

While at Yale, Kavanaugh became a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity, or “Deke,” which several students said was known for its wild and, in the view of some critics, misogynistic parties. Kavanaugh was also a member of an all-male secret society, Truth and Courage, which was popularly known by the nickname “Tit and Clit.”

Part of the article that was censored out by nono chan.^^^^

There's a lot of people who say that Kavanaugh is a mean drunk. For what it's worth. It's mostly Kabuki Theater, political power play BS at this stage of the proceedings. Beneath it all Kavanaugh is a corrupt statist ahole, and an establishment hack with little regard for BOR/civil liberties, or the rule of law and US constitution.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-23   23:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68, Fred Merta (#8)

Part of the article that was censored out by nono chan

I did not censor anything, hondope. I snipped the article and so indicated. I did not want to get a copyright takedown for Stone.

Here is Kavanaugh's response to this desperate Dem act,

"This alleged event from 35 years ago did not happen," Kavanaugh said. "The people who knew me then know that this did not happen, and have said so. This is a smear, plain and simple."

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-24   0:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan, all (#0)

er calendars to the Senate Judiciary Committee from 1982 that do not show him attending a high school party where Christine Blasey Ford said he sexually attacked her, according to a report on Sunday.

The calendars show that Kavanaugh, then a teenager, was out of town during most of that summer at the beach or with his parents, the New York Times reported, citing someone working on his confirmation hearings.

While at home in suburban Maryland, Kavanaugh’s calendar listed basketball games, movies he went to, football workouts and college interviews.

It mentioned several parties, but the calendar included names of friends other than those identified by Ford, the newspaper said.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/23/kavanaugh-will-use-1982-calendar-to-deny-sex-assault-claims/

Time to make the demoncrats pay!

Time to sue these two “accusers” for liable!

This crap can not go unpunished!!!!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-24   0:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#9)

"This alleged event from 35 years ago did not happen," Kavanaugh said

That can happen with blackout drinking.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-24   0:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#10)

This is why I call all demcrats “demon’crats” because they are evil!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-24   0:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#11)

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-24   0:26:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#13) (Edited)

Wow

PreTTy good

Didn'T know

You had iT in you

Love
boris

ps

maybe

you were hacked

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2018-09-24   2:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#0)

After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.

Anyone, woman OR man, who has to think for 6 days before feeling "confident" about a memory of a guy sticking his penis in her face is NOT credible.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-24   2:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nolu chan (#0)

New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct

Avenatti says he has witnesses who can back sexual assault claims against Kavanaugh

“I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge,” Avenatti said on Twitter. “We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify

Avenatti’s tweets also arrived the same explosive report was published in The New Yorker stating that Senate Democrats are currently looking into a new allegation of sexual misconduct regarding Kavanaugh brought forth by a woman identified as Deborah Ramirez. Kavanaugh has also denied those claims.

Avenatti confirmed shortly after the report that the client he was referring to is not Ramirez.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/avenatti-says-he-has-witnesses-who-can- back-sexual-assault-claims-against-kavanaugh/ar-AAAxZyn?ocid=ientp

"...Kavanaugh one of the 'finest people..." - the toad

Call me a drunk and see what happens.

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-24   7:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nolu chan (#0)

Another drunk broad with no proof but plenty of assertions?
Put her under oath and let's see what she's got. Let's go.
Gonna keep screwing around, Grassley? How's that working out?

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-09-24   8:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Hank Rearden (#17)

" Gonna keep screwing around, Grassley? How's that working out? "

Not very well !! It is just encouraging more to occur !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-09-24   11:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Stoner (#18) (Edited)

For what it's worth, I've taken in two old dogs so far; the latest died in early June and she's missed. Her predecessor was The World's Best Dog, truly amazing.
Old dogs are cool, especially as we get older.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-09-24   14:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hank Rearden (#17)

Another drunk broad with no proof but plenty of assertions?

And worded in such a way that it will be hard to say they flat out lied and would open them up to indictment. The insinuation of impropriety is all that matters, for now and for the future.

I would just go ahead and confirm him and tell the "supposed victims" that they can get whomever they want to investigate their allegations. And if they're found to be credible action will be taken against him. If they're found to not be credible then the shoe will be on the other foot and you'll have action taken against you!!

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-24   14:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#0)

Senator Mazie Hirono, of Hawaii, said. An aide in one of the other Senate offices added, “These allegations seem credible, and we’re taking them very seriously. If established, they’re clearly disqualifying.”

Senator Hirono Didn’t Always Tell Men to ‘Shut Up’ and Believe Accusers

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/mazie-hirono-believe-accusers-not-stance- for-daniel-inouye/? utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=nationalreview.com&utm_te rm=68891&utm_content=2293513

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-24   16:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#19)

Bless you Hank !!! You have done good deeds, in God's eyes !! I have taken in strays that wandered in. I have also adopted several from the local shelter. Got at least three that were seniors, that were scheduled to be put down. Wonderful, loving creatures all. Gave them a lot of extra years. We loved them all, and am sure they loved us !! I am down to two. Both still young. One was a stray, the other came from the shelter. They were going to euthanize her. A Lab. They said no one would adopt black dogs. We do, and did !!

I have loved every dog we have had, and still miss them all !!

Your a good man Hank !! Bless you !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-09-24   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82 (#20)

" I would just go ahead and confirm him and tell the "supposed victims" that they can get whomever they want to investigate their allegations. And if they're found to be credible action will be taken against him. If they're found to not be credible then the shoe will be on the other foot and you'll have action taken against you!! "

Agree completely Uncle !!!

Mr. Grassly should listen to you, and follow your advice !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-09-24   21:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Hank Rearden (#19)

Hank, I love your animals more than you.

You know what I mean. Thank you for your efforts and love.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-24   21:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Stoner (#22)

Gosh darn Stoner, you have accomplished great things too. Bless you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-24   21:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

Thank you Fred. I love all of God's creatures. Well except for the Demonrats we are cursed with.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-09-24   22:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Stoner (#22)

Your a good man Hank !! Bless you !!

Opinions differ on that point, but thanks.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-09-25   10:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Hank, I love your animals more than you.

You know what I mean. Thank you for your efforts and love.

I get it. I've liked my dogs more than many, many people.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-09-25   12:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: hondo68 (#3)

The movie Animal House was inspired by Kavi's fraternity parties.

Factually incorrect.

The film was produced by Matty Simmons of National Lampoon and Ivan Reitman for Universal Pictures. It was inspired by stories written by Miller and published in National Lampoon. The stories were based on Ramis's experience in the Zeta Beta Tau fraternity at Washington University in St. Louis, as well as Miller's Alpha Delta Phi experiences at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, and producer Reitman's experiences at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-26   9:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nolu chan (#7)

Someone who claims they had a dildo waved at them in the 1980s. She was seemingly traumatized by the sight of a rubber dick. The FBI can have a sketch artist make a rendering of what Ramirez saw and put it on a Wanted poster. Have you seen Dick? Last seen in 1984.

I'm surprised some nitwit in the US Senate has not advocated the movie Porky's 'Tallywhacker' line up scene.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-26   9:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: redleghunter, hondo68 (#29)

The movie Animal House was inspired by Kavi's fraternity parties.

Factually incorrect.

Also, Animal House was released in 1978 when Kavanaugh would have been about 11 years old.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-26   16:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#31)

in 1978 when Kavanaugh would have been about 11 years old.

Where's the birth certificate?


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-26   17:35:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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