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Title: Senate panel formally postpones Kavanaugh vote
Source: The Hill
URL Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate ... mally-postpones-kavanaugh-vote
Published: Sep 18, 2018
Author: Jordain Carney
Post Date: 2018-09-18 21:19:28 by Hondo68
Keywords: JJ Swamp posponed indefinately, yet to say when Senate, panel will vote, no comment
Views: 11070
Comments: 133

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday formally postponed a vote on Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination, canceling a meeting set for later this week where a vote was initially expected to happen

Staffers for Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sent out a notice that the Thursday business meeting had been canceled. The Senate is expected to leave town for the week on Tuesday. The delay for a vote to advance Kavanaugh's nomination was widely expected following allegations from Christine Blasey Ford, a professor who alleges that Kavanaugh held her down and tried to remove her clothes at a party in the early 1980s when both were in high school.

Kavanaugh has denied the allegations.

Grassley announced this week that Kavanaugh would testify before the Judiciary Committee for a second time next Monday, days after the initial committee vote was scheduled

Grassley has yet to say when the Senate panel will now vote on Kavanaugh's nomination

The chairman declined to comment when leaving a closed-door meeting of Judiciary Committee Republicans on Monday night. Grassley also dodged questions about it on Tuesday morning during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt

Kavanaugh's nomination first appeared on the Judiciary Committee's agenda roughly a week after the initial round of hearings took place.

President Trump on Tuesday ramped up his defense of Kavanaugh amid the allegations, saying he "is not a man who deserves this."


Poster Comment:

Kavanaugh confirmation before midterms will result in GOP loss of the HOR, he's that bad.

The GOP wing of the party will totally lose the HOR if they confirm *JJ Swamp before the midterm elections.

*Jesuit Judge Swamp

Now Kavi can go back to picking up Hillary's spent shell casings, and other cover up ops to protect her.

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#48. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

Another name. "PJ". Turns out to be Patrick Smyth who says he wasn't at any such party.

“I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as ‘PJ’ who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post,” Smyth says in the letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, according to CNN. “I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh.”

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   13:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#47)
(Edited)

Get your facts straight Sparky - I'm not a Democrat.

But...you join them in their fatwa against Trump. And the Bible/gun clingers.

This isn't a fake/Dubya "you're either for us or against us" BS choice; It's real. The Dems are at war. And "freedom" is NOT on their menu.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite (#46)

For starters, Kavanaugh is on record saying he wasn't at that party.

Yes...But here's my point: Even IF he was -- *would* it be "damning" to be drinking at a party as a teenager?

This bizarre standard created out of thin air by Dems (which began with Moore) shouldn't be considered even slightly seriously.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard, Liberator, Jesuit Mafia, Vicomte13, Christie, anti-Patriot Act, Fred Mertz (#42)

Kavi & Crisco are from the same Jesuit mobster zone, the MD/NJ swamp. Authoritarian goons, aka tyrants. It's a miracle that Judge Napolitano turned out so well, he's old school patriotic American. Gonna busta cap on the tyrants!


Father Rodreguez & the Boys, Team Kavanaugh. (some say that they're not REAL Jesuits)


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-19   14:47:04 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Liberator (#49)

But...you join them in their fatwa against Trump.

I don't have a fatwa against Trump ass-clown. I disagree with him on completely different reasons than the Dems - but by all means, keep playing that false left-right paradigm card.

You just don't get it Poindexter - one can be critical of Trump and not be a Democrat. I'm just not into the cult of personality like so many of you here seem to be.

I've already stated that he's done some good things.

I think he's an obnoxious clown, a megalomaniacal narcissist, but still - he's better than Hillary.

Speaking of Hillary - when is Trump going to make good on his campaign promise and "LOCK HER UP"?

Oh wait, that's right - he says "she's suffered enough".

How's that "swamp draining" thingie coming along?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#49)

This isn't a fake/Dubya "you're either for us or against us" BS choice; It's real.

In your paranoid mind, maybe so.

And "freedom" is NOT on their menu.

Apparently, not on yours either.

If you Trump-ettes had your way, you would silence anyone who isn't totally on board the Trump Train.

I don't mind Trump so much, his childishness and whining aside - it's his genuflecting worshipers like you who are simply over the top with your idolizing the guy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: hondo68 (#51)

Kavi & Crisco are from the same Jesuit mobster zone, the MD/NJ swamp. Authoritarian goons, aka tyrants.

Great chart - at one time Luberator would have seen the Trump presidency for what it really is.

Nowdays, he's too busy drinking the kool-aid.

Drain the swamp? When is that going to start?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#50)

Yes...But here's my point: Even IF he was -- *would* it be "damning" to be drinking

You're missing the point. He said he wasn't there. If the other three (now 2) say there was a party and he was there, the left will say he's a liar and we can't trust anything he says. He's toast.

But why would he lie about not being there? Too many witnesses. If he was there he could have very easily said he was but he was sober and never left the downstairs.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   16:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: hondo68 (#0)

Kavanaugh confirmation before midterms will result in GOP loss of the HOR, he's that bad. The GOP wing of the party will totally lose the HOR if they confirm *JJ Swamp before the midterm elections. *Jesuit Judge Swamp Now Kavi can go back to picking up Hillary's spent shell casings, and other cover up ops to protect her.

Have you been smoking crack?

Ron Paul and company are doing themselves a big disservice by acting like spoiled rotten children. You are just like the demoncrats in having a tantrum!

I really think you guys are mad that Trump is actually accomplishing everything you wanted by different means and you are not part of it!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-19   16:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: hondo68 (#51)

Love the chart and its footnote. It's great to be on Team God!

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-19   17:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: misterwhite (#20)

No. What she wants is to drag this out for another 2-3 months then refuse to testify under oath.

True. She is never going to appear and never had intent to appear. Let the confirmation proceed after she does not appear. Regardless of any potential mid-term fallout, this appointment could determine the makeup of the court for the next 20 years of so.

Not making the appointment could make the senators up for reelection an endangered species with the GOP voters.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   17:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite, Fred Mertz (#31)

Someone miscalculated and told her the Republicans, misogynists all, would try to bury it and go forward with the vote despite the accusation. And that would be that. Then the Democrats would have the excuse they were looking for to vote "no".

A major miscalculation was the possibility that it would stop the nomination to SCOTUS and that would be that. If the allegation is sufficient to disqualify Kavanaugh from SCOTUS, it is sufficient to impeach and remove him from the Circuit Court. Blasey Ford would still be in the middle of a shit storm.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   18:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: misterwhite, Fred Mertz (#38)

True. But they could testify a) there was a party, b) Kavanaugh and Judge were there, and c) they were both very drunk. Given the statements on record by Kavanaugh and Judge, that alone would be damning.

For those keeping score, there has been a third male, Patrick J. (P.J.) Smyth who was alleged to be at the party, and he has denied the allegation.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/19/kavanaughs-prep-school-pal-fords-wrong-i-was-never-at-party/

Kavanaugh’s prep school pal: Ford’s wrong, I was never at party

By Yaron Steinbuch

September 19, 2018 | 8:40am | Updated

Another former classmate of Brett Kavanaugh denied attending a party like the one described by the woman accusing the Supreme Court nominee of sexually assaulting her during a party in 1982 when they were teens, according to a report.

Patrick J. Smyth — who graduated with Kavanaugh from Georgetown Prep in North Bethesda, Md., in 1983 — also denied seeing any “improper conduct” from the nominee, CNN reported, citing a letter written by Smyth’s lawyer and sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as ‘PJ’ who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post,” Smyth says in the statement,

“I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh.

“Personally speaking, I have known Brett Kavanaugh since high school and I know him to be a person of great integrity, a great friend, and I have never witnessed any improper conduct by Brett Kavanaugh towards women,” he continued.

“To safeguard my own privacy and anonymity, I respectfully request that the Committee accept this statement in response to any inquiry the Committee may have.”

The letter was expected to be sent Wednesday to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.).

Earlier this year, before Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh became public, Smyth signed a letter testifying that the judge “is singularly qualified to be an Associate Justice on the US Supreme Court,” along with a dozen more of the all-boys school’s alumni.

Kavanaugh has vehemently denied attending the party and the allegation of sexually and physically assaulting Ford.

On Tuesday evening, Ford’s attorney Lisa Banks told CNN that Ford will talk with the committee — but that she’s not prepared for a hearing as soon as Monday.

“This just came out 48 hours ago,” she told CNN’s Anderson Cooper, referring to her client’s account in the Washington Post.

Mark Judge, another friend and classmate of Kavanaugh’s, has been named as the other person who was in the room when the alleged incident took place. He also has denied the incident took place.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   18:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: nolu chan (#10) (Edited)

A committee vote to recommend or not recommend the nomination is not an actual necessity.

I think you're an attorney, right? Well, believe it or not, I actually knew all that but didn't want to complicate my answer. Plus, politics dictates the committee vote be taken to report a recommendation, and Grassley's not going to call the vote until he's sure he'll get a positive result - however much arm-twisting that takes.

I'd forgotten about Clarence Thomas' outcome, though.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-09-19   18:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Deckard, Liberator, hondo68 (#42)

Like the fact he led the Starr “investigation” into the death of Vince Foster, and concluded against all logic and all the evidence that he killed himself in Fort Marcy Park.

Ken Starr was the Independent Counsel. Hickman Ewing was Starr's Deputy Independent Counsel. Young Brett Kavanaugh was an Associate Independent Counsel.

"Kavanaugh's" report, in October 1997, concluded that the death of Foster resulted from suicide. The investigation was led by Ken Starr and it is the Starr Report.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pur1.32754067900252;view=1up;seq=2

http://www.fbicover-up.com/ewExternalFiles/Purdue%20University%20vol.1.pdf

X. SUMMARY OF CONCLUSIONS

To sum up, the OIC has investigated the cause and manner of Mr. Foster's death. To ensure that all relevant issues were fully considered, carefully analyzed, and properly assessed, the OIC retained a number of experienced experts and criminal investigators. The experts included Dr. Brian D. Blackbourne, Dr. Henry C. Lee, and Dr. Alan L. Berman. The investigators included an FBI agent detailed from the FBI-MPD Cold Case Homicide Squad in Washington, D.C.; an investigator who also had extensive homicide experience as a detective with the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, D.C., for over 20 years; and two other OIC investigators who had experience as FBI agents investigating the murders of federal officials and other homicides. The OIC legal staff in Washington, D.C., and Little Rock, Arkansas, participated in assessing the evidence, examining the analyses and conclusions of the OIC experts and investigators, and preparing this report.

The autopsy report and the reports of the pathologists retained by the OIC and Mr. Fiske's Office demonstrate that the cause of death was a gunshot wound through the back of Mr. Foster's mouth and out the back of his head. The autopsy photographs depict the wound in the back of the head, and the photographs show the trajectory rod through the wound. The evidence, including the photographic evidence, reveals no other trauma or wounds on Mr. Foster's body.

The available evidence points clearly to suicide as the manner of death. That conclusion is based on the evidence gathered and the analyses performed during previous investigations, and the additional evidence gathered and analyses performed during the OIC investigation, including the evaluations of Dr. Lee, Dr. Blackbourne, Dr. Berman, and the various OIC investigators.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   19:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Hank Rearden (#61)

politics dictates the committee vote be taken to report a recommendation, and Grassley's not going to call the vote until he's sure he'll get a positive result - however much arm-twisting that takes.

https://www.scribd.com/document/388944844/CRS-Report-Supreme-Court-Appointment-Process-Roles-of-the-President-Judiciary-Committee-and-Senate-2010

Text at page 32-35, footnote 123 at page 32.

Reporting the Nomination

Usually within a week of the end of hearings, the Judiciary Committee meets in open session to determine what recommendation to “report” to the full Senate. The committee may report favorably, negatively, or make no recommendation at all. A report with a negative recommendation or no recommendation permits a nomination to go forward, while alerting the Senate that a substantial number of committee members have reservations about the nominee. If a majority of its members oppose confirmation, the committee technically may decide not to report a nomination, to prevent the full Senate from considering the nominee. However, since its creation in 1816, the Judiciary Committee’s almost invariable practice has been to report even those Supreme Court nominations that were opposed by a committee majority,123 thus allowing the full Senate to make the final decision on whether the nominee should be confirmed.124 This committee tradition was reaffirmed in June 2001 by the committee’s then-chair, Senator Patrick J. Leahy (D-VT), and its then-ranking member, Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), in a June 29, 2001, letter to Senate colleagues. The committee’s “traditional practice,” their letter stated, ... has been to report Supreme Court nominees to the Senate once the Committee has completed its considerations. This has been true even in cases where Supreme Court nominees were opposed by a majority of the Judiciary Committee.

We both recognize and have every intention of following the practices and precedents of the committee and the Senate when considering Supreme Court nominees.125

In recent decades, reporting to the Senate frequently has included a printed committee report, although the three most recent Supreme Court nominations were reported without printed reports.126 Prepared behind closed doors, after the committee has voted on the nominee, the printed report presents in a single volume the views of committee members supporting a nominee’s confirmation as well as “all supplemental, minority, or additional views ... submitted by the time of the filing of the report....”127 No Senate committee, however, is normally obliged to transmit a printed report to the Senate. Instead, the chair of the Judiciary Committee may simply file a one-page document reporting a nomination to the Senate and recommending whether the nomination should be confirmed.

A printed report, it can be argued, is valuable in providing for Senators not on the Judiciary Committee a review, in one volume, of all of the reasons that the committee’s members cite for voting in favor or against a nominee.128 A written report, however, might not always be considered a necessary reference for the Senate as a whole. For instance, in some cases, Senators not on the Judiciary Committee might believe they have received adequate information about a nominee from other sources, such as from news media reports or gavel-to-gavel video coverage of the nominee’s confirmation hearings.129 Further, preparation of a written report will mean additional days for a nomination to stay with the committee before it can be reported to the Senate.130 In some situations, this might be viewed as creating unnecessary delay in the confirmation process, particularly if there is a desire to fill a Court vacancy as quickly as possible.131

The Senate usually, but not always, has agreed with Judiciary Committee recommendations that a Supreme Court nominee be confirmed.132 Historically, negative committee reports, or reports without recommendation, have been precursors to nominations encountering substantial opposition in the full Senate, although a few of these nominations have eventually been confirmed by narrow margins.133

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123 Since its creation in 1816, the Judiciary Committee has reported to the Senate 106 Supreme Court nominations. Of the 106, seven were reported unfavorably—those of John Crittenden (1829), Ebenezer R. Hoard (1869), Stanley Matthews (1881), Lucius Q.C. Lamar (1888), William B. Hornblower (1894), John J. Parker (1930), and Robert H. Bork (1987). Two were reported without recommendation—those of Wheeler H. Peckham (1894) and Clarence Thomas (1991). See CRS Report RL33225, Supreme Court Nominations, 1789 - 2009: Actions by the Senate, the Judiciary Committee, and the President (under heading “Nominations Reported Out of Committee to Full Senate”).

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nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   19:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: nolu chan, sweeper coyote (#62)

Young Brett Kavanaugh was an Associate Independent Counsel.

The equivalent of a "sweeper" who brushes out the illegal aliens footprints with a branch, so that the Border Patrol won't know that they invaded the USA.

Covering up the Clinton's tracks gets you an A+ rating in the D&R party.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-19   20:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: nolu chan (#60)

[PJ] “I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh.

Thanks for that. I would have used the terms recollection or memory rather than knowledge. Again, that is just me talking.

Okay, the score is 3-1 against the accuser.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   20:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: misterwhite (#65)

I meant to ping you to my last reply even though it is nothing earth shattering.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   20:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: hondo68 (#64)

The equivalent of a "sweeper" who brushes out the illegal aliens footprints with a branch, so that the Border Patrol won't know that they invaded the USA.

The Associate Counsel falls under the General Counsel and Deputy General Counsel in the scheme of a legal organization. The Associate Counsel does not run the show.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-20   10:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: nolu chan, clinton apologist, deep state swamp lover, D 'n R party hack (#67)

The Associate Counsel does not run the show.

Neither does a "sweeper", numbnuts. But as a SCOTUS Justice, yes he would run the show. DUH!


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-20   10:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: hondo68, asshole (#68)

Neither does a "sweeper", numbnuts. But as a SCOTUS Justice, yes he would run the show. DUH!

And you imagine the CHIEF JUSTICE takes orders from the JUNIOR Associate Justice?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-20   11:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: nolu chan (#69) (Edited)

And you imagine the CHIEF JUSTICE takes orders from the JUNIOR Associate Justice?

All Kavi would have to do is to tell the chief justice that he just gave Hillary a brand new box of hollow points, and the vote would go his way.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-20   11:44:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: hondo68, IQ, MINUS 1000 (#51)

Hondo, thanks for helping lower this collective forum IQ into lower primate territory. Your posts are increasing more bizarre and irrelevant than the last.

Btw -- Must you now sport a pink p*ssy-hat EVERY minute of the day?

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-20   12:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#71)

Still covering up for Hillary's murder of Vince Foster i see. George Soros & the Pink Pussyhats must be proud of you.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-20   12:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: hondo68 (#70)

All Kavi would have to do is to tell the chief justice that he just gave Hillary a brand new box of hollow points, and the vote would go his way.

Further evidence you are either demented or just a bullshitter.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-20   13:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Deckard (#52)

I don't have a fatwa against Trump ass-clown. I disagree with him on completely different reasons than the Dems - but by all means, keep playing that false left-right paradigm card.

You just don't get it Poindexter - one can be critical of Trump and not be a Democrat. I'm just not into the cult of personality like so many of you here seem to be.

This "False left-right paradigm card" actually IS still in play; Just NOT by Trump. That is IF you've actually been playing attention. It's participants are establishment Republicans (Bushies) v. Dem-Left.

MEMO: Donald Trump is NOT. ONE. OF. THEM. (and neither are the Republican Conservative Caucus.)

Maybe you're just overwhelmed by the sheer insane volume of upheaval and chaos. This is thanks to the successful PTB tactics and execution of several Psy-Ops simultaneously, like:

Cloward and Piven, Hegelian dialectic, and Alinsky etc. Again, all of which Donald Trump is NOT PART OF. (THIS is the problem. FOR the Left and Establishment PTB.)

Here's an analogy and perspective that may be helpful in understanding and appreciating Trump:

FLASHBACK: The effete US Brass during WW2 whined, b*tched, moaned and groaned about General Patton's style and stragegy, "disagreeing" with nearly everything HE did; Meanwhile he ignored THEIR backbiting and professional sabotage as he stayed aggressive and he led and held the US Army together long enough TO HELP WIN THE WAR.

Sadly, you're overlooking an insight and foresight in understanding what's at stake in what has emerged into the turning point of the Left-Right paradigm of power. What's at stake is...the US Constitution, Rule of Law, Process of Justice -- our very Republic.

I'm not saying there aren't issues of which to criticize Trump or ANY politician; What I'm saying is, your sense of propriety AND priority are myopic and your fighting spirit and energies wildly misplaced.

A coup is still being waged against President Trump. That has NOT ended. Have you been following these events at all??

For instance: Are you aware that Swamp-Rats Brennan and Comey were both officially Communists? That Brennan and Democrats are encouraging further subordination at the Swamp-Central at FBI, routinely committing sedition?

The SCOTUS process has been hijacked by the Left; its exposed and revealed the extent of their war against (especially) truth, against justice & fairness, against men, and against logic. A REAL live hot-war is being waged right before our very eyes -- and here you are kvetching over the equivalent of a "bad sprig of parsley" as you were served a gourmet meal at a 5-Star restaurant.

Speaking of Hillary - when is Trump going to make good on his campaign promise and "LOCK HER UP"?

But...Doesn't that require an actual Attorney General who's NOT "part of the Swamp"?? (or hadn't you noticed Sessions was indeed PART of it since Day-One of his bizarro-world "recusal" ?)

How's that "swamp draining" thingie coming along?

Brennan: GONE. Comey: GONE. McCabe: GONE. Others: GONE.

Do you really expect five decades of the Globalist-Leftist Foggy Bottom hive to just surrender their power in a snap of Trump's finger? He's fended off every dirty trick they had. And still they are fighting Trump. But you don' see it STILL?? You can't be this naive or stupid. Then again...your priorities have been about the abuse of power at the BOTTOM of the authoritah food-chain. NOT the Top.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-20   13:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Deckard (#53)

("This isn't a fake/Dubya 'you're either for us or against us' BS choice; It's real.)

In your paranoid mind, maybe so.

Did you say, "Paranoid"??

From the same guy who hides under his bed with and laptop scoping out the latest "COP SHOOTS DOG!" stories at "Reason" and "Thought-Project"?? AS the USA becomes a Banana Republic and an active ongoing coup by the Democrats, GOPe and Deep State are still in progress?

If you Trump-ettes had your way, you would silence anyone who isn't totally on board the Trump Train...it's his genuflecting worshipers like you who are simply over the top with your idolizing the guy.

Stop being a selfish contrarian crusader. It's beyond ridiculous.

The PTB's abuse of institutional power and manipulating the rest of us won't and cannot stop until their entire machination is punctured. Without Trump to battle and expose them, your supposed "Crusade for Liberty" is political roadkill.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-20   13:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#75)

Stop being a selfish contrarian crusader. It's beyond ridiculous.

That's what watching too much CNN will do to you...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-20   16:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: CZ82 (#76)

That's what watching too much CNN will do to you...

That is definitely bad for mental health.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   9:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

Had to believe that the Republicans let this happen. They have the power, and could simply ignore the nonsense and plow ahead.

This is true.

Let's say that Kavanaugh did what was said: locked a girl in a room 30 years ago. Who cares?

The man probably had such a squeeky clean record in College they had to go back to High School to find something. Ok, Don't know about you Vic but there are many things I did in High School I am not proud of.

It's long done. The statute of limitations has run. The whole thing is ridiculous.

Not to be callous I have to agree. There was no police report, rape kit no evidence it is the classic "he said, she said" scenario from 35 years ago.

The Democrats apparently believe in sinless perfection. Go figure.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   9:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

ALL MEN are sinners - and Democrats don't hold their leaders accountable for that fact, and they don't LET the Republicans hold them accountable for it either. They ignore the bitching, ignore the complaints, put their heads down and charge through.

Indeed.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   10:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: misterwhite (#33)

But according to her there was another girl and two other boys. Where are they? Don't they see the news? Why aren't they stepping forward to either confirm or deny her story?

Given the exclusive nature of the academy she went to, the 'others' are probably in the Senate or House and have a (D) next to their name and know the truth.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   10:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Liberator (#45)

"Damning" in what context?? Teen-age high school kids getting drunk? Big whoop. This is all bullsh**.

Even when I was going for my military security clearance as a college student, the background investigators only asked for job history going back to High school. Man if they asked fellow students about drinking and partying, no one would get a security clearance.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   11:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Vicomte13 (#57)

Love the chart and its footnote.

That was hilarious no? LOL. I never had to turn in my Jesuit decoder ring.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   11:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: nolu chan (#59)

If the allegation is sufficient to disqualify Kavanaugh from SCOTUS, it is sufficient to impeach and remove him from the Circuit Court. Blasey Ford would still be in the middle of a shit storm.

Point, match you are correct.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-21   11:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Deckard, hondo68, ALL (#54)

Great chart - at one time Luberator would have seen the Trump presidency for what it really is.

Words don't help you understand. Crayons won't help.

Maybe THIS simple photo and graphic will:

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-21   12:09:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: misterwhite (#55)

You're missing the point. He said he wasn't there.

That's a different point.

I'm simply exposing the bizarro-world over-reaching contentions of 36 year-old "indictments of character": TEENAGERS DRINK ALCOHOL! AND AT TIME GROPE EACH OTHER!

But why would he lie about not being there? Too many witnesses.

Again -- I'm NOT saying that he lied or would lie about this fake incident; Only that the so-called bogus "criminal-charge" is:

a) BS
b) IRRELEVANT
c) WELL-BEYOND ANY REASONABLE STATUTE OF LIMITATION
d) Is OBVIOUSLY designed to criminalize all men.

FOR BEING MEN. FOR BEING WHITE. FOR BEING HETEROSEXUAL.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-21   12:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Liberator, Deckard (#84)

Words don't help you understand. Crayons won't help.

Maybe THIS simple photo and graphic will:


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-21   12:26:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Justified, hondo68 (#56)

Have you been smoking crack?

You need to ask?

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-21   12:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: nolu chan, misterwhite, CZ82, redleghunter (#58) (Edited)

Let the confirmation proceed after she does not appear.

Regardless of any potential mid-term fallout, this appointment could determine the makeup of the court for the next 20 years of so.

Gentlemen, I believe the American public is being bamboozled.

Any "Fall-Out" is pure myth. Any negative "fall-out", controversy, and "contention" is based SOLELY on the MEDIA'S usual psyop character assassination of Republicans, Whitey, Men, Conservatives, Trump, etal "evil" fantasy portrayals of the Left's opponents. (What's they'll NEVER concede: Trump has succeeded in his own psyop: "FAKE NEWS".)

Q: HAS THE MEDIA NOW "OUT-KICKED ITS COVERAGE" and OVERESTIMATED THEIR ACTUAL INFLUENCE?

Q2: IF REPUBLICANS REALIZE THIS IS THE CASE AND STOP FEARING MEDIA RETRIBUTION, AREN'T THE DEMOCRAT-TERRORISTS FINISHED?

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-21   12:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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