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Title: Senate panel formally postpones Kavanaugh vote
Source: The Hill
URL Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate ... mally-postpones-kavanaugh-vote
Published: Sep 18, 2018
Author: Jordain Carney
Post Date: 2018-09-18 21:19:28 by Hondo68
Keywords: JJ Swamp posponed indefinately, yet to say when Senate, panel will vote, no comment
Views: 11179
Comments: 133

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday formally postponed a vote on Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination, canceling a meeting set for later this week where a vote was initially expected to happen

Staffers for Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sent out a notice that the Thursday business meeting had been canceled. The Senate is expected to leave town for the week on Tuesday. The delay for a vote to advance Kavanaugh's nomination was widely expected following allegations from Christine Blasey Ford, a professor who alleges that Kavanaugh held her down and tried to remove her clothes at a party in the early 1980s when both were in high school.

Kavanaugh has denied the allegations.

Grassley announced this week that Kavanaugh would testify before the Judiciary Committee for a second time next Monday, days after the initial committee vote was scheduled

Grassley has yet to say when the Senate panel will now vote on Kavanaugh's nomination

The chairman declined to comment when leaving a closed-door meeting of Judiciary Committee Republicans on Monday night. Grassley also dodged questions about it on Tuesday morning during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt

Kavanaugh's nomination first appeared on the Judiciary Committee's agenda roughly a week after the initial round of hearings took place.

President Trump on Tuesday ramped up his defense of Kavanaugh amid the allegations, saying he "is not a man who deserves this."


Poster Comment:

Kavanaugh confirmation before midterms will result in GOP loss of the HOR, he's that bad.

The GOP wing of the party will totally lose the HOR if they confirm *JJ Swamp before the midterm elections.

*Jesuit Judge Swamp

Now Kavi can go back to picking up Hillary's spent shell casings, and other cover up ops to protect her.

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#17. To: Fred Mertz, hondo68 (#13)

I have no choice but to follow this soap opera. It makes me slightly ill, but I'll watch what happens.

You may want to follow the polygraph Q&A where no deception was detected.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/experts-doubt-claim-of-truthful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

Experts doubt claim of ‘truthful’ polygraph result from Kavanaugh accuser

by Eddie Scarry
Washington Examiner
September 17, 2018 04:31 PM

[excerpt]

Ford “engaged Debra Katz, a Washington lawyer known for her work on sexual harassment cases,” said the Post report, detailing how Ford recently decided to go public with her accusation. “On the advice of Katz, who said she believed Ford would be attacked as a liar if she came forward, Ford took a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent in early August. The results, which Katz provided to the Post, concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate.”

The report included no other information about the test.

A subsequent story by the New York Times identified the polygraph administrator as Jerry Hanafin, whose website says he is a retired FBI agent based in Virginia.

According to the Times, Hanafin said the result of the exam was that there was “no deception indicated,” meaning Ford “was being truthful” when he questioned her for the test.

Well, isn't that just special?

She was not detected being deceptive when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate; i.e., it accurately described her allegations.

The statement summarizing her allegations could be a 100% accurate summary, even if the allegations themselves were 100% fiction.

Now why didn't this trained former FBI agent ask her about whether her allegations were truthful?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-19   0:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland (#7)

No they can’t, dip shit. It will cause a blue wave at the next election cycle.

The blue wave with be overmatched by a red wave if the Republicans press ahead and motivate their voters.

If the Republicans don't use their power and fail to put Kavanaugh on the court, there will be a blue wave ANYWAY - the Left hates Trump and they will come out and they will vote. But there will be no countervailing red wave. The Right will be demoralized and will stay home.

The Democrats use their power, all of it. And that's why the whole national policy agenda is their belief system.

The Republicans don't, so they lose anyway, and they don't get their agenda.

Insult me all you want. You sound like a coward. A lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court is at stake - and you, and the Republicans, are so afraid of an election cycle that you're going to squander that opportunity, to simply lose anyway? I'm not a retard, but you guys are pussies. That's why the Democrats win: they always fight. It's their cardinal advantage over you guys. They fight, and you run away from the fight. Every time.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-19   6:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan (#8)

That is not what Dr. Ford actually said, although it is what was originally reported. Dr. Ford wrote she was pushed into the bedroom where Kavanaugh held her down, and when Judge jumped on them she got free, ran to the hallway bathroom where she locked herself in, stayed about 15 minutes until she heard them go down the stairs, and she let herself out and left the house and went home. Allegedly.

I don't care if he raped her. It's 30 years ago. They were minors. It doesn't matter, to me.

Republicans are such stupid, sniveling cowards. Clinton? Obama? What these men did thirty years ago was also disgraceful. Republicans bring the stuff up and bandy it around, AS IF it were important, and the Democrats fucking ignore them and plow ahead and win. Republicans tried to impeach Clinton for lying over a blowjob, and a blue wave came out and gave the Democrats MORE SEATS in a mid-term lame-duck election. Never happens, but it happened, because in the end Democrat voters are smart enough to realize that the moral failings of individual men are TOTALLY IRRELEVANT when power and policy are at stake. ALL MEN are sinners - and Democrats don't hold their leaders accountable for that fact, and they don't LET the Republicans hold them accountable for it either. They ignore the bitching, ignore the complaints, put their heads down and charge through.

Democrats are like Patton - they fight to win..

Republicans HAVE the power and can bulldoze through right now, like Democrats. Instead, they're actually stalling and CARING about some guy's high school sexual hijinks 34 years ago, and in the process squandering their opportunity to control the Supreme Court, because some girl was groped in the 1980s.

If the Republicans blow this, they deserve to lose, and they will, and that will be it. Game over. The Democrats have no power. The Republicans are GIVING THEM power. Just before an election that Republicans are very likely to lose.

If high school sexual hijinks are disqualifying from office, the Republican party is doomed. Strike the colors and go home.

The proper response to this is what the Democrats do: give the opposition the finger, use power, ignore their bleating, plow forward and impose their will.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-19   6:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nolu chan (#1)

Now Christine Blasey Ford's by her attorneys want a full FBI investigation before appearing.

No. What she wants is to drag this out for another 2-3 months then refuse to testify under oath. She's using the #metoo movement to bully the Republicans.

Fine. When this is over we'll use her lies to bully the #metoo movement.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   8:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

They have the power, and could simply ignore the nonsense and plow ahead.

In a sane world that's what they would do. But they'd get crucified by the MSM and the #metoo movement for their lack of sensitivity and for ignoring the victims of sexual abuse.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   8:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#3)

What, exactly, did those parasites do during this grueling 2-day workweek?

They gave a lot of interviews. They furrowed their brows and frowned. They displayed concern and compassion.

Being phony takes a lot of work. Two days of that and they're exhausted.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#6)

She deserves no title besides lying snowflake cunt.

Let's compromise. Dr. Lying Snowflake Cunt.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: hondo68 (#12)

Another reason Trump hasn’t gone to the mat for Kavanaugh

Hold on here. Which Democrat has "gone to the mat" for this lying bitch? Name one Democrat who has said "I believe her".

When this whole thing blows up, no Democrat wants to be on record as being a part of it.

Where are the Hollywood types stating they believe her 100%? The MSM? The liberal talk shows? The late night comics? SNL? Her peers at the university? Her friends?

If they believe her, I haven't seen or heard anything.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: nolu chan (#14)

According to three sources... a former West Wing official... According to sources... Two sources told me the White House has heard rumors

Anonymous, of course.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#24)

Which Democrat has "gone to the mat" for this lying bitch? Name one Democrat who has said "I believe her".

This murdering cunt right here

Sen. Hirono: Men Need To "Shut Up," Kavanaugh Accuser Needs To Be Believed And I Believe Her

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-19   9:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: nolu chan (#16)

I saw that she received the couples counseling in 2012

Just for the record, I don't believe she mentioned Kavanaugh's name during those sessions.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

"Instead, they're actually stalling and CARING about some guy's high school sexual hijinks 34 years ago"

They care about how this will make them look. They could give a FF about some teenage groping incident 35 years ago.

And so should we. But the MSM and the #metoo movement will never allow that.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   9:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Sen. Hirono: Men Need To "Shut Up," Kavanaugh Accuser Needs To Be Believed And I Believe Her

She believes the accuser because, well, the accuser said so. Kavanaugh said it didn't happen ... but she doesn't believe him.

Let's say the accuser comes forward and admits she was confused and it was some other guy. Will Sen. Hirono then vote to confirm Kavanaugh?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   10:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#29)

Let's say the accuser comes forward and admits she was confused and it was some other guy

That's as likely to happen as Kavanaugh saying I didn't do that to her, I did that to Betty Boop.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   11:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

That's as likely to happen as Kavanaugh saying I didn't do that to her, I did that to Betty Boop.

I think it's dawning on her that she's in waaaay over her head.

Someone miscalculated and told her the Republicans, misogynists all, would try to bury it and go forward with the vote despite the accusation. And that would be that. Then the Democrats would have the excuse they were looking for to vote "no".

I don't think she ever envisioned herself testifying, under oath, on national television, in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. But she's been in academia her entire life. She doesn't know the real world.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   11:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#31)

With her not remembering when this happened exactly and whose home it was, her credibility is at stake. I think she mentioned only two people present at the party by name, Kavanaugh and Judge.

She may be telling the truth like I said before, but there is no way to prove it.

How can Kavanaugh testify about something that he claims didn't happen? I'll guess he'll make a short statement to that effect and be done with it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   11:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fred Mertz (#32)

I think she mentioned only two people present at the party by name, Kavanaugh and Judge.

Correct. But according to her there was another girl and two other boys. Where are they? Don't they see the news? Why aren't they stepping forward to either confirm or deny her story?

I'm still confused as to why she said Mark Judge was there. She had to know he'd deny it making it two against one.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   11:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#32)

How can Kavanaugh testify about something that he claims didn't happen?

Maybe he'll testify he was out of the country that year.

If she provided more more more specifics as to the date and location he could defend himself. But that vagueness along with the passage of 35 years, makes it difficult.

Very unfair to any defendant.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   11:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: misterwhite (#33)

But according to her there was another girl and two other boys. Where are they? Don't they see the news? Why aren't they stepping forward to either confirm or deny her story?

Those are good questions although the other three may have been unaware at the time that there was alleged hanky panky going on in the other room.

Yes, where are they? Well, I'm off to lunch now.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   11:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: hondo68 (#0)

Criminal Democrat-Communists and stupid Republicrats:

This bitch wrote a similar letter during Judge Gorsich's hearing. It has been covered up, but some honest Congressmen remember it well. So Why not trample over the evil Democraps and vote Kavanaugh in!

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-09-19   12:00:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#33)

Grassley and the GOP actually played this perfectly, and got the best result possible given Feinstein's dirty trick. They demonstrated good faith by delaying the committee vote and offering a chance to tell her story under oath, in public or in private. She has refused. In the minds of most voters, they acted with reasonable fairness.

One last thought, the Pubbies played this one pretty well. Borrowed these comments from another site.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-19   12:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

Those are good questions although the other three may have been unaware at the time that there was alleged hanky panky going on in the other room.

True. But they could testify a) there was a party, b) Kavanaugh and Judge were there, and c) they were both very drunk. Given the statements on record by Kavanaugh and Judge, that alone would be damning.

Or they could say there was a party but the two drunk boys were Brett Kavastein and Mark Juggs.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   12:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Fred Mertz (#37)

One last thought, the Pubbies played this one pretty well.

They were given lemons and made lemonade. I would have shoved the lemons up Feinstein's ass, but that's me.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   12:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#5)

There are many good reasons not to confirm Kavanaugh...

Really?

Like exactly WHAT??

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   12:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Poster Comment (Hondo):

Kavanaugh confirmation before midterms will result in GOP loss of the HOR, he's that bad.

Back it up or STFU.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   12:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator, hondo68 (#40)

There are many good reasons not to confirm Kavanaugh...

Really?

Like exactly WHAT??

Like the fact he led the Starr “investigation” into the death of Vince Foster, and concluded against all logic and all the evidence that he killed himself in Fort Marcy Park. You have to be quite a “judge” to support these kinds of impossible official narratives. By anyone’s standards, Kavanaugh proved his establishment mantle in that “investigation” alone.

Kavanaugh, as White House counsel under Bush, also sought to limit compensation under the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

Kavanaugh- Another Fake Sideshow

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

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Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   12:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Deckard (#42)

Like the fact he led the Starr “investigation” into the death of Vince Foster, and concluded against all logic and all the evidence that he killed himself in Fort Marcy Park.

You have to be quite a “judge” to support these kinds of impossible official narratives. By anyone’s standards, Kavanaugh proved his establishment mantle in that “investigation” alone.

Is that your party's (D) opinion and quibble?

And btw -- why should I believe you and your alleged "source"? You guys do nothing but lies your azzes off 110% of the time.

Kavanaugh, as White House counsel under Bush, also sought to limit compensation under the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

Are you seeking the hangman's noose or electric chair, Madam?

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#42)

At best, you've proven Kavanaugh scores a 9 out of a perfect 10.

Wanna start making arguments to dismiss YOUR judges over "qualifications"?

START WITH YOUR PARTY'S (D) fake/partisan SCOTUS judges: Bader-Ginsburg, "The Wise Latina," and the other chubby man-hating ACLU/anti-Constitution judge. And don't forget Prog-globalist, Breyer.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: misterwhite, Fred Mertz (#38)

They could testify a) there was a party, b) Kavanaugh and Judge were there, and c) they were both very drunk. Given the statements on record by Kavanaugh and Judge, that alone would be damning.

"Damning" in what context??

Teen-age high school kids getting drunk? Big whoop.

This is all bullsh**.

100% of Democrats facing an iota of proper, reasonable scrutiny would all be JAILED.

NONE of this desperate fairy tale "GOTCHA!" and so-called "Litmus Test" by the highly criminal Democrat Party should be humored.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#45)

"Damning" in what context??

For starters, Kavanaugh is on record saying he wasn't at that party.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   13:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator (#44)

START WITH YOUR PARTY'S (D) fake/partisan SCOTUS judges

Get your facts straight Sparky - I'm not a Democrat.

Partisan politics is Kabuki theater for the rubes.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   13:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

Another name. "PJ". Turns out to be Patrick Smyth who says he wasn't at any such party.

“I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as ‘PJ’ who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post,” Smyth says in the letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, according to CNN. “I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh.”

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   13:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#47) (Edited)

Get your facts straight Sparky - I'm not a Democrat.

But...you join them in their fatwa against Trump. And the Bible/gun clingers.

This isn't a fake/Dubya "you're either for us or against us" BS choice; It's real. The Dems are at war. And "freedom" is NOT on their menu.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite (#46)

For starters, Kavanaugh is on record saying he wasn't at that party.

Yes...But here's my point: Even IF he was -- *would* it be "damning" to be drinking at a party as a teenager?

This bizarre standard created out of thin air by Dems (which began with Moore) shouldn't be considered even slightly seriously.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-19   13:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard, Liberator, Jesuit Mafia, Vicomte13, Christie, anti-Patriot Act, Fred Mertz (#42)

Kavi & Crisco are from the same Jesuit mobster zone, the MD/NJ swamp. Authoritarian goons, aka tyrants. It's a miracle that Judge Napolitano turned out so well, he's old school patriotic American. Gonna busta cap on the tyrants!


Father Rodreguez & the Boys, Team Kavanaugh. (some say that they're not REAL Jesuits)


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-19   14:47:04 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Liberator (#49)

But...you join them in their fatwa against Trump.

I don't have a fatwa against Trump ass-clown. I disagree with him on completely different reasons than the Dems - but by all means, keep playing that false left-right paradigm card.

You just don't get it Poindexter - one can be critical of Trump and not be a Democrat. I'm just not into the cult of personality like so many of you here seem to be.

I've already stated that he's done some good things.

I think he's an obnoxious clown, a megalomaniacal narcissist, but still - he's better than Hillary.

Speaking of Hillary - when is Trump going to make good on his campaign promise and "LOCK HER UP"?

Oh wait, that's right - he says "she's suffered enough".

How's that "swamp draining" thingie coming along?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#49)

This isn't a fake/Dubya "you're either for us or against us" BS choice; It's real.

In your paranoid mind, maybe so.

And "freedom" is NOT on their menu.

Apparently, not on yours either.

If you Trump-ettes had your way, you would silence anyone who isn't totally on board the Trump Train.

I don't mind Trump so much, his childishness and whining aside - it's his genuflecting worshipers like you who are simply over the top with your idolizing the guy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: hondo68 (#51)

Kavi & Crisco are from the same Jesuit mobster zone, the MD/NJ swamp. Authoritarian goons, aka tyrants.

Great chart - at one time Luberator would have seen the Trump presidency for what it really is.

Nowdays, he's too busy drinking the kool-aid.

Drain the swamp? When is that going to start?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

"If you're not cop...you're little people"

Pity the Poor Stormtroopers: Baby Bou-Bou Ambushed Them

Deckard  posted on  2018-09-19   15:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#50)

Yes...But here's my point: Even IF he was -- *would* it be "damning" to be drinking

You're missing the point. He said he wasn't there. If the other three (now 2) say there was a party and he was there, the left will say he's a liar and we can't trust anything he says. He's toast.

But why would he lie about not being there? Too many witnesses. If he was there he could have very easily said he was but he was sober and never left the downstairs.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-19   16:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: hondo68 (#0)

Kavanaugh confirmation before midterms will result in GOP loss of the HOR, he's that bad. The GOP wing of the party will totally lose the HOR if they confirm *JJ Swamp before the midterm elections. *Jesuit Judge Swamp Now Kavi can go back to picking up Hillary's spent shell casings, and other cover up ops to protect her.

Have you been smoking crack?

Ron Paul and company are doing themselves a big disservice by acting like spoiled rotten children. You are just like the demoncrats in having a tantrum!

I really think you guys are mad that Trump is actually accomplishing everything you wanted by different means and you are not part of it!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-19   16:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: hondo68 (#51)

Love the chart and its footnote. It's great to be on Team God!

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-19   17:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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