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Title: Simcox won't quit Senate race if Hayworth runs
Source: Arizone Republic
URL Source: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic ... /03/20100103nowickisimcox.html
Published: Jan 7, 2010
Author: Dan Nowicki
Post Date: 2010-01-07 06:35:30 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 13054
Comments: 65

Don't expect Chris Simcox to quit this year's Republican Senate race to make way for J.D. Hayworth.

Simcox, the founder of the border-watch group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, announced his intention in April to challenge four-term incumbent Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the state's GOP primary. But most of the attention over the past couple of months has centered on Hayworth, a former congressman and current KFYI-AM (550) radio host who is considering his own run. Hayworth, a firebrand on the illegal-immigration issue, and Simcox likely would compete for some of the same voters and campaign contributors.

"No way in hell," Simcox told The Arizona Republic when asked about speculation that a Hayworth candidacy might drive him from the race. "After what I know I've built, there's no way I'm dropping out of this race. I will not let down the people who have supported me to this point." Simcox said he is somewhat annoyed by the continued chatter about a possible insurgent run by Hayworth, whom Simcox said "has always been a GOP establishment guy." Simcox characterized himself as a true outsider candidate.

"Not only have I been out there working for the last eight or nine months, but so has (fellow Republican Senate candidate) Jim Deakin," Simcox said. "We've been out there working the state and not getting recognition from anybody, and J.D. opens his mouth because he has his bully pulpit and he's the frontrunner in the polls."

Most election watchers started taking the possibility of a Hayworth challenge seriously after a November Rasmussen Reports poll found McCain and Hayworth in a statistical dead heat. McCain had 45 percent to Hayworth's 43 percent, with the survey's margin of error plus or minus 4 percentage points. Simcox garnered 4 percent support.

In other developments:

• Citing Capitol Hill's heavy workload, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., expressed reluctance to wade into the messy Maricopa County brawl that has pitted Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas against sitting Superior Court judges and county supervisors. Kyl, a lawyer who sits on the influential Senate Judiciary Committee, called the Arizona Supreme Court's intervention appropriate.

Last month, Chief Justice Rebecca White Berch appointed a "special master" to oversee and help settle the infighting.

"Obviously, Senator McCain and I are back in Washington. We've been a little busy," Kyl said Tuesdayduring a news conference with McCain in Phoenix. "I think it would be very difficult for us to get the kind of information that we would need in order to weigh in in a persuasive way with the court system here, or in some other way."

• Rep. Harry Mitchell, D-Ariz., is teaming up again with Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, to put the kibosh on Congress' next pay raise for fiscal 2011, which starts Oct. 1. Mitchell and Paul were instrumental last year in stopping the pay raise for fiscal 2010, resulting in a $2.5 million saving. Under a 20-year-old procedure, Congress gets an automatic raise every year unless lawmakers vote otherwise.

"With unemployment high and so many families struggling to make ends meet, it is unconscionable to think that Congress is considering giving itself a pay raise," Mitchell said in a written statement.

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#26. To: war (#25)

Never say never...Somebody once said a black man would never be president and pigs would never fly. Obama was elected and Swine Flu. (hehe)


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   21:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#24)

ALL PERSONS BORN...

--14A USCON...

Do you support amendments that weren't properly ratified under our constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   7:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

That amendment most certainly was properly ratified.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   8:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mel (#26)

Agriculture is still big business in this nation and urban centers need cheap labor.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   8:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#28)

That amendment most certainly was properly ratified.

lol. You had senators who wouldn't vote for the 14th. They had already passed the 13th. So they were legitimate. Then you had a military govt remove the elected senators and replace them with puppets. You had states withdraw their support (revote against it im my memory serves me correctly).

States were deprived of their equal sufferage in the senate. You should research this. Others have and it was done unlawfully.

Why would anyone support the 14th? It turned the constitution on its ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   8:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I'm familiar with what occurred. I'm familiar that the Southern States were in rebellion and lost. I'm familiar that the USCON GUARANTEES a REPUBLICAN form of government to every state. The US COngress sets the qualifications of office for each of its chambers. It was not going to allow Senators to be seated from a "state" that prior to readmission had passed laws AGAINST one class of people in DIRECT conflict with the laws of the United States. Cato, hardly a bastion of liberal thinking, did a working paper on the ENTIRE history of 14A. It's a good read if you get a chance.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Why would anyone support the 14th?

Becuase it personfies what freedom is: The right to birthright citizenship no matter who we are or what State we live in and NO state can deny or disparage that fact.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#29)

Agriculture is still big business in this nation and urban centers need cheap labor.

And there are many, many people in prisons just waiting to provide such labor. ;-)


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mel  posted on  2010-01-08   9:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#32)

It was unlawfully ratified.

So when we are at war or being invaded. All the enemy has to do is come over and have babies. That's pretty stupid. It isn't freedom at all. It is rule by foreigners and slavery to pay their medical costs, food, crime and the list goes on and on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   9:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

It was unlawfully ratified.

Make your case. YOUR case...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#34)

So when we are at war or being invaded. All the enemy has to do is come over and have babies.

How much German immigration occurred during WWII?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mel (#33)

And there are many, many people in prisons just waiting to provide such labor. ;-)

Highly impractical. You don't need armed guards to manage migrant labor.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: diva betsy ross (#5)

diva betsy ross, just ignore the canadaian Republic hater. He has been a socialist commie for so long, he has given up and sense of humanity. Just ignore him, he won't go away, but as I read thru threads, I won't have to see his blather.Bob

BobCeleste  posted on  2010-01-08   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BobCeleste (#38)

Still waiting for you MOS...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   11:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BobCeleste (#38)

{{{{{{{CRICKETS}}}}}}}

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   13:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: BobCeleste (#38)

he has given up any[?] sense of humanity

"... we do not have a weapon I would not use" Bobby Celeste

LOL, dipshit.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-08   13:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: all (#41)

At least Arizona has a primary.

BobCeleste  posted on  2010-01-08   19:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: BobCeleste, war (#38)

diva betsy ross, just ignore the canadaian Republic hater.

We're sorry - the party you are trying to reach has gone to re-hab...er, uh, I mean a nice little spa in San Diego. If you leave a message, I'm sure she'll get back to you as soon as possible, well, after she responds with a bunch more bullshit lies to the post I'm making now....


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mel  posted on  2010-01-08   20:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: diva betsy ross, war, e_type_jag (#7)

(Straight cross:) "How can you look at yourself in the mirror? You claim to be a grown man. I doubt that."

(Upper cut:) "I think you are a very ill person."

(B*tch slap:) "What do you mean- that there are some emotionally unhealthy people who stalk and troll people and sites- to work out a sexual frustration, loneliness... emotional dysfunction , mental disorder and who prey upon other people?"

(The final jackhammer:) "That there are people like you, who are emotional vampires and have a lot of time on their hands because they are hermits and have no real life.... So they take out all of the fantasies and frustrations out in cyberspace."

Whoa...

Call an ambulance; Somebody just got their clock thoroughly cleaned.

Well done, Diva...

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Citing Capitol Hill's heavy workload, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., expressed reluctance to wade into the messy Maricopa County brawl that has pitted Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas against sitting Superior Court judges and county supervisors. Kyl, a lawyer who sits on the influential Senate Judiciary Committee, called the Arizona Supreme Court's intervention appropriate.

Sen. John Kyl,(P)-Ariz...(for p*ssy) is why the Left is winning.

Kyl is a eunuch. Are there ANY Pubbies with balls (beside Michele Bachman and Sarah Palin) willing to "wade in" on an issue based solely on principle and in America's interests?

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Rasmussen Reports poll found McCain and Hayworth in a statistical dead heat. McCain had 45 percent to Hayworth's 43 percent, with the survey's margin of error plus or minus 4 percentage points. Simcox garnered 4 percent support.

Simcox ought shove his @ss out of the race and support Hayworth...That is unless HE'S waiting to see who is the highest bidder.

JETTISON McSTAIN!!

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Obviously, Senator McCain and I are back in Washington. We've been a little busy," Kyl said Tuesdayduring a news conference with McCain in Phoenix. "I think it would be very difficult for us to get the kind of information that we would need in order to weigh in in a persuasive way with the court system here, or in some other way."

Kyl,(W)-Ariz...(W is for "Weasel") is FOS.

Arpaio ought to run for the Senate.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: diva betsy ross (#1)

I thnk it is excellent that the current climate in washington is bringing out more conservatives.

Kinda like- *if you build it, they will come*.

Yeah...But we need more "conservatives" willing to stand on principle and stop compromising with the RINO Way.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#2) (Edited)

had Boy Blunder been doing most of this stuff..blah, blah, blah...

If only the year wasn't 2008.

I'd like to direct your attention to a little invention called "the calender", Gomer.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#30)

You had senators who wouldn't vote for the 14th. They had already passed the 13th. So they were legitimate. Then you had a military govt remove the elected senators and replace them with puppets. You had states withdraw their support (revote against it im my memory serves me correctly).

States were deprived of their equal sufferage in the senate.

D@mn straight.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war, A K A Stone (#31)

I'm familiar that the Southern States were in rebellion and lost.

Yeah..."in rebellion" against a federal government that overstepped it's legal authority and clearly violated the terms of the State/Fed relationship.

It was not going to allow Senators to be seated from a "state" that prior to readmission had passed laws AGAINST one class of people in DIRECT conflict with the laws of the United States.

They do it now, yet it's ok with you?

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone, war, all (#34)

So when we are at war or being invaded. All the enemy has to do is come over and have babies. That's pretty stupid. It isn't freedom at all. It is rule by foreigners and slavery to pay their medical costs, food, crime and the list goes on and on.

Well stated....This amendment might have made sense had actual border security been taking place. The President and the Federal Gubmint have been especially derelict in their respective duty since 9/11... According to the U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion"

Invasion: In*va"sion, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Biff Tannen (#41)

LOL, dipshit.

I see you're still quite the articulate poster, Biffy...

You're consistent - I'll give you that.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   22:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#31)

The US COngress sets the qualifications of office for each of its chambers. It was not going to allow Senators to be seated from a "state" that prior to readmission had passed laws AGAINST one class of people in DIRECT conflict with the laws of the United States. Cato, hardly a bastion of liberal thinking, did a working paper on the ENTIRE history of 14A.

Hold on a second. The civil war had already ended. The states were already admitted back in the union. They had a senate. That senate voted to pass the 13th amendment. I'll repeat that. That senate voted to pass the 13th amendment. So they were legitimate as that 13th amendment still stands today. So it has been established they were the true representatives lawfully seated. Or the 13th would be illegitimate. So now the 14th comes up. They didn't pass it. It was their right not to pass it. Then the north didn't like it. So they unlawfully remove the true senators and replace them with illegal puppets. Then they pass a 14th so called amendment. Well guess what. That is a violation of the constitution as those states were deprived of their representaion that the people voted for in the Senate. Tell me what you don't get about that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   23:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone, war (#54)

Hold on a second. The civil war had already ended. The states were already admitted back in the union. They had a senate. That senate voted to pass the 13th amendment. I'll repeat that. That senate voted to pass the 13th amendment.

So it has been established they were the true representatives lawfully seated. Or the 13th would be illegitimate. So now the 14th comes up. They didn't pass it. It was their right not to pass it. Then the north didn't like it. So they unlawfully remove the true senators and replace them with illegal puppets. Then they pass a 14th so called amendment. Well guess what. That is a violation of the constitution as those states were deprived of their representation that the people voted for in the Senate. Tell me what you don't get about that.

Exactamundo.

For better or worse existing Reps of entire constituencies were body-snatched by the opposition Party (the old Pubbies).

War would LOOOVE the new Pubbies swooping in and dismissing his Lib-Left Reps and replacing them with Palin-clones because his Reps "voted wrong."

But then again, the Dems are doing that these days by stealing close elections via ACORN, corrupt Dim precincts, voter fraud, counting Disneyland characters and pets.

Liberator  posted on  2010-01-08   23:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

The states were already admitted back in the union.

Save TN none had been. And the 13th was passed in both the House and the Senate PRIOR to the end of the war.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-09   19:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#56)

Save TN none had been. And the 13th was passed in both the House and the Senate PRIOR to the end of the war.

NOT SO MY FRIEND...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_exact_date_did_the_Civil_War_start_and_end

What exact date did the Civil War start and end?

Answer

The American Civil War began on April 12, 1861.

Most consider Lee's surrender on April 9, 1865 the end of the war.

Although the Army of Northern Virginia surrendered on April 9th, technically, there were still Confederate Forces in the field until June. Confederate General Stand Watie surrendered on June 23, 1865 when the last major fighting occurred.

13th Amendment

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAS13.htm

It was not until December 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution had been passed by the House of Representatives and had been ratified by the required number of states, that slavery was finally abolished everywhere in the United States.

Now war. I have shown you the facts. Will you now acknowledge that the 14th amendment was unlawfully passed. Making it not a properly ratified amendment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-10   8:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#57)

It was not until December 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution had been passed by the House of Representatives

It passed out of the House in February of 1865 and was actually signed by Lincoln. The Georgia state legislature ratified it in 1865.

And the 14th was properly ratified.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-11   12:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#58)

It passed out of the House in February of 1865 and was actually signed by Lincoln. The Georgia state legislature ratified it in 1865.

Go back and read the constitutio. It takes 2/3 of the house. 2/3 of the senate. And 3/4 of the states. The president has nothing to do with the process. If you are honest with yourself you will admit that the 14th is illegitimate. Why don't you like the constitution? In regards to properly following the amendment process.

How many congressmen voted for the act?

How many Senators?

Which states ratified it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-11   19:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Liberator (#44)

Whoa...

Call an ambulance; Somebody just got their clock thoroughly cleaned.

Well done, Diva...

Chuckles.....looks like the punk got punked over on LP today too:)

It's all goood:)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-01-11   22:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mel (#43)

Why do you and diva betsy ross dislike each other so?

BobCeleste  posted on  2010-01-12   8:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#59)

Go back and read the constitutio. It takes 2/3 of the house. 2/3 of the senate. And 3/4 of the states.

You compared the 13th to the 14th...they were two different Congresses under two different circumstances. The 11 Southern States had yet to be re-admitted when 14 passed out of the Congress and as a condition of readmission they had to ratify...the math works perfectly...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-12   8:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#48)

Exactly and that is exactly why I am gettng behind this whole idea of a government full of rouges...

(Well- save the presidency- I do still think that the president needs a little bit of experience on the Hill, as you and I have previously discussed)

But this Simcox could be someone interesting to watch. I do like JD- I have for years... so either way it should be good.

Just that Simcox has a *rouge* thing goin on. :)

I like that.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-12   12:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Simcox's second ex-wife, Kim Dunbar, filed an emergency appeal in September 2001 to obtain full custody of their teenage son because she feared that Simcox had suffered a mental breakdown and was dangerous. Dunbar declined to be interviewed for this article, but her sworn affidavits speak for themselves. In one, Dunbar testified that throughout their 10-year marriage, Simcox was prone to sudden, violent rages. "He once took a knife from the kitchen and threatened to kill himself," she testified. "When he was angry, he broke furniture, car windows, he banged his head against the wall repeatedly and punched things." Dunbar said that when their son was 4 years old, Simcox slapped him so hard that a mark remained on his face for two days. Another time, she testified, she grabbed her young son in her arms and jumped out a window because Simcox was throwing furniture at them. After such episodes, she said, Simcox would become despondent. "He would stare at walls, mumbling to himself." In the affidavits, Dunbar said she repeatedly pressured Simcox to seek professional help and even tried to have him hospitalized. But he persistently refused treatment. "Eventually," she said, "the only thing I could do was file for divorce." Simcox and Dunbar initially shared custody of their son. There was no legal dispute until shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, when Dunbar suddenly filed a flurry of emergency appeals. "While Chris has always been prone to strong opinions and ranting behavior, this last episode has gone even farther," she told the court. "I am convinced he has had some kind of mental lapse and I am now, more than ever, afraid for my son to be in Chris' care."


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mel  posted on  2010-01-12   13:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Simcox won't quit Senate race if Hayworth runs

I'm certainly glad Simcox changed his mind, but am disappointed in JD for palling around with Simcox. I'm sticking with Jim Deakin.


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If Con is the opposite of Pro does that mean Congress is the opposite of Progress?

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