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Title: Simcox won't quit Senate race if Hayworth runs
Source: Arizone Republic
URL Source: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic ... /03/20100103nowickisimcox.html
Published: Jan 7, 2010
Author: Dan Nowicki
Post Date: 2010-01-07 06:35:30 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 13021
Comments: 65

Don't expect Chris Simcox to quit this year's Republican Senate race to make way for J.D. Hayworth.

Simcox, the founder of the border-watch group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, announced his intention in April to challenge four-term incumbent Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the state's GOP primary. But most of the attention over the past couple of months has centered on Hayworth, a former congressman and current KFYI-AM (550) radio host who is considering his own run. Hayworth, a firebrand on the illegal-immigration issue, and Simcox likely would compete for some of the same voters and campaign contributors.

"No way in hell," Simcox told The Arizona Republic when asked about speculation that a Hayworth candidacy might drive him from the race. "After what I know I've built, there's no way I'm dropping out of this race. I will not let down the people who have supported me to this point." Simcox said he is somewhat annoyed by the continued chatter about a possible insurgent run by Hayworth, whom Simcox said "has always been a GOP establishment guy." Simcox characterized himself as a true outsider candidate.

"Not only have I been out there working for the last eight or nine months, but so has (fellow Republican Senate candidate) Jim Deakin," Simcox said. "We've been out there working the state and not getting recognition from anybody, and J.D. opens his mouth because he has his bully pulpit and he's the frontrunner in the polls."

Most election watchers started taking the possibility of a Hayworth challenge seriously after a November Rasmussen Reports poll found McCain and Hayworth in a statistical dead heat. McCain had 45 percent to Hayworth's 43 percent, with the survey's margin of error plus or minus 4 percentage points. Simcox garnered 4 percent support.

In other developments:

• Citing Capitol Hill's heavy workload, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., expressed reluctance to wade into the messy Maricopa County brawl that has pitted Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas against sitting Superior Court judges and county supervisors. Kyl, a lawyer who sits on the influential Senate Judiciary Committee, called the Arizona Supreme Court's intervention appropriate.

Last month, Chief Justice Rebecca White Berch appointed a "special master" to oversee and help settle the infighting.

"Obviously, Senator McCain and I are back in Washington. We've been a little busy," Kyl said Tuesdayduring a news conference with McCain in Phoenix. "I think it would be very difficult for us to get the kind of information that we would need in order to weigh in in a persuasive way with the court system here, or in some other way."

• Rep. Harry Mitchell, D-Ariz., is teaming up again with Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, to put the kibosh on Congress' next pay raise for fiscal 2011, which starts Oct. 1. Mitchell and Paul were instrumental last year in stopping the pay raise for fiscal 2010, resulting in a $2.5 million saving. Under a 20-year-old procedure, Congress gets an automatic raise every year unless lawmakers vote otherwise.

"With unemployment high and so many families struggling to make ends meet, it is unconscionable to think that Congress is considering giving itself a pay raise," Mitchell said in a written statement.

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#2. To: diva betsy ross (#1) (Edited)

I thnk it is excellent that the current climate in washington is bringing out more conservatives.

It's not bringing them out...it's simply making them cry louder...and I take issue with you believing that they are conservative...they are simply opposition...had Boy Blunder been doing most of this stuff you'd be first on your feet applauding...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-07   8:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

A cry baby, feminist (marxist)- flaming liberal, who takes issue with a conservative for judging someone on their intent to look to the Constitution?

Uh huh.....

war- your relevance is all in your head.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-07   9:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: diva betsy ross (#3)

There's an "EDIT" feature here that gives you an hour to revise your remarks, Lady Dingus...

Sadly for you though, there's not a "COHERENT" feature to make those remarks make any kind of sense...

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   9:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

Nice- so just another excuse for a personal attack, war. Do you ever do anything else?

You can not stop yourself from reading my every post on a number of sites, and you want to tell me that they are not coherent, that I am a ding bat- and all sorts of other nasty things. Yet here you are within moments of me posting.

What does that say about you? How can you look at yourself in the mirror? You claim to be a grown man.

I doubt that.

Seriously.

I think you are a very ill person.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-07   9:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: diva betsy ross (#5)

Maybe someone needs to sit you down and explain the concept of the internet to you, Little Miss Dingus.

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   10:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

What do you mean- that there are some emotionally unhealthy people who stalk and troll people and sites- to work out a sexual frustration, loneliness... emotional dysfunction , mental disorder and who prey upon other people?

That there are people like you, who are emotional vampires and have a lot of time on their hands because they are hermits and have no real life.... So they take out all of the fantasies and frustrations out in cyberspace.

Yes war, I am more than familiar with the concept- I have seen you in action. It just makes me sad to know about this dark underbelly of the internet, because it is in direct contrast with my life and how I conduct myself- it is so yucky and seedy.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-07   10:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: diva betsy ross (#7)

The concept, Little Miss Dingus, is this...if you post on a board that is on the internet people can read it and respond to it.

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   10:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8) (Edited)

The conecpt is that you are a classic web troll who does nothing other than insult people and go to places where you can find people to disagree with and call them names.

You are a cyber troll and follow people from one site to another with your little petty dramas.

Troll.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-07   10:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: diva betsy ross (#9)

I was here long before you. I posted here long before you. When I have something to say about you, I say it to you and not to others to your exclusion. You are not the center of ANY universe except the delusional one in which you dwell.

Have a nice day...

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   10:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Simcox doesn't stand a chance - he brings with him the same ideals that McCain has. If the voters have to decide between the two - they'll go with the more expierenced candidate. Besides that, Simcox doesn't have the backing he needs to win - he has no support. Deakin has a better chance and Hayworth has the best chance.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   14:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mel (#11)

he brings with him the same ideals that McCain has.

Well I think he should go for it.

But what are these ideals that he shares with McCain you are talking about. He doesn's support amnesty does he? Please tell me he doesn't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-07   14:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

He doesn's support amnesty does he? Please tell me he doesn't.

Ohhh --- Stone! I will go get his quotes and links for you to decide for yourself. BRB.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   15:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

December 2007
The Hard Work of Compromise: America Needs a Comprehensive Immigration Policy
Yet Simcox agreed with others that society cannot afford the kind of social friction that immigration debates create. "We're all victims of government failure -- in Arizona and in Washington, D.C.," he said. "We need a compromise. And I'm willing to lead that compromise."

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Issue Clash: Immigration
Simcox Answers Questions:

Q: What stance should the U.S. government take regarding the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S?

A: It is against the law to enter the U.S. without authorization. Anyone discovered to be in the U.S. illegally, who has committed a crime, has stolen someone's identity, or has obtained false documents should be deported and never allowed to reenter the U.S. for any reason. The major problem we have is what to do with the children who were brought into the U.S. illegally. If they have been here since they were a child, they should be allowed to be put on a fast track to gain citizenship. Immediately declaring that the 14th Amendment does not grant automatic birthright citizenship will cut off the magnet that attracts people to take advantage of our charity.

Q: President Obama says longtime undocumented immigrants should have a path to citizenship in the U.S. Do you agree?

A: On a case-by-case basis I would agree that if someone is found to be living in the U.S. illegally, has been gainfully employed, has paid their taxes and has not committed a crime, I feel that we certainly can make an exception. But this will be the last time, and I would only accept that after our borders are secured and illegal immigration is no longer an out of control problem.

Q: Should undocumented immigrants with children born in the U.S. be allowed to stay here?

A: First we must immediately end automatic birthright citizenship, and then proceed on a case-by-case basis. If the child is under the age of 18, then their parents should be allowed to stay in the U.S. to seek citizenship unless they commit a crime. However, if citizenship is not processed before the child turns 18, then the parents must then self-deport.

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“They need to be brought out of the shadows. They need to be documented and swear an oath to become a citizen,” he said. “If they do that, then by all means they deserve the opportunity that anyone else has.” ~ Chris Simcox, the American DREAM Act, SB170


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   15:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

Simcox is McCain Lite.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   15:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mel (#14)

First we must immediately end automatic birthright citizenship

That would take an amendment to the USCON...the entire Eastern Seaboard would never let that happen and the aggregate of them is enough to keep it that way...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-07   15:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

I wouldn't end it the way they make it sound. I would amend it. If you are born in the US to a legal resident, your parent can file for your US citizenship. If one or both parents are US Citizens, then you are a US citizen. If both parents are here illegally when you are born, then you would not be a US Citizen - you would have the same status as your parents - illegal. That way, when the parent/s get deported for being here illegally, the child will get deported along with them for being here illegally.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   15:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mel (#17) (Edited)

That's too complicated and would end up with litigation out the wazoo...

Born here: citizen...not born here and have to immigrate to enter: non citizen...it's so simple it should be the law...

Wait...it is...

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   15:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18)

My way is simple as can be. The parents status is passed on to the child. How hard is that? Illegal = illegal and legal = legal.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   15:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mel (#19)

You'd have to amend the USCON.

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   16:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

OK then. Strike the 14th and rewrite it.


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   16:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#16)

That would take an amendment to the USCON..

I don't think it would.

Especially since they never follow it anyway. But for other reasons too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-07   16:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I like JD a lot. I have since he was outspoken about Clinton. I like Simcox as well, esp after reading this interview: http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/10/interview-with-chris-simcox.html

I am thinking a whole *rouge* government! :) Get all the cowboys out there and chase the John Kerrys and Nancy Pelosis and Barney Franks out to the ocean.

;)

Anyway- it was an insightful interview for me. I hope you read it.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2010-01-07   18:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited)

ALL PERSONS BORN...

--14A USCON...

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"ALL" does not allow for an exception...and the one exception listed is children of diplomats...

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   20:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mel (#21)

You'd never get the 3/4's...

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war  posted on  2010-01-07   20:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#25)

Never say never...Somebody once said a black man would never be president and pigs would never fly. Obama was elected and Swine Flu. (hehe)


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mel  posted on  2010-01-07   21:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#24)

ALL PERSONS BORN...

--14A USCON...

Do you support amendments that weren't properly ratified under our constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   7:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

That amendment most certainly was properly ratified.

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   8:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mel (#26)

Agriculture is still big business in this nation and urban centers need cheap labor.

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   8:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#28)

That amendment most certainly was properly ratified.

lol. You had senators who wouldn't vote for the 14th. They had already passed the 13th. So they were legitimate. Then you had a military govt remove the elected senators and replace them with puppets. You had states withdraw their support (revote against it im my memory serves me correctly).

States were deprived of their equal sufferage in the senate. You should research this. Others have and it was done unlawfully.

Why would anyone support the 14th? It turned the constitution on its ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   8:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I'm familiar with what occurred. I'm familiar that the Southern States were in rebellion and lost. I'm familiar that the USCON GUARANTEES a REPUBLICAN form of government to every state. The US COngress sets the qualifications of office for each of its chambers. It was not going to allow Senators to be seated from a "state" that prior to readmission had passed laws AGAINST one class of people in DIRECT conflict with the laws of the United States. Cato, hardly a bastion of liberal thinking, did a working paper on the ENTIRE history of 14A. It's a good read if you get a chance.

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Why would anyone support the 14th?

Becuase it personfies what freedom is: The right to birthright citizenship no matter who we are or what State we live in and NO state can deny or disparage that fact.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#29)

Agriculture is still big business in this nation and urban centers need cheap labor.

And there are many, many people in prisons just waiting to provide such labor. ;-)


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mel  posted on  2010-01-08   9:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#32)

It was unlawfully ratified.

So when we are at war or being invaded. All the enemy has to do is come over and have babies. That's pretty stupid. It isn't freedom at all. It is rule by foreigners and slavery to pay their medical costs, food, crime and the list goes on and on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-08   9:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

It was unlawfully ratified.

Make your case. YOUR case...

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#34)

So when we are at war or being invaded. All the enemy has to do is come over and have babies.

How much German immigration occurred during WWII?

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mel (#33)

And there are many, many people in prisons just waiting to provide such labor. ;-)

Highly impractical. You don't need armed guards to manage migrant labor.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2010-01-08   9:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: diva betsy ross (#5)

diva betsy ross, just ignore the canadaian Republic hater. He has been a socialist commie for so long, he has given up and sense of humanity. Just ignore him, he won't go away, but as I read thru threads, I won't have to see his blather.Bob

BobCeleste  posted on  2010-01-08   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BobCeleste (#38)

Still waiting for you MOS...

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   11:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BobCeleste (#38)

{{{{{{{CRICKETS}}}}}}}

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war  posted on  2010-01-08   13:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: BobCeleste (#38)

he has given up any[?] sense of humanity

"... we do not have a weapon I would not use" Bobby Celeste

LOL, dipshit.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-01-08   13:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: all (#41)

At least Arizona has a primary.

BobCeleste  posted on  2010-01-08   19:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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