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Title: Manafort pleads guilty, will cooperate with prosecutors
Source: NBC
URL Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po ... s-guilty-mueller-probe-n909576
Published: Sep 14, 2018
Author: Tom Winter, Adam Edelman and Ken Dilania
Post Date: 2018-09-14 12:12:56 by Jameson
Keywords: Willie, Cicci, Cooperates
Views: 2113
Comments: 40

Paul Manafort, formerly President Donald Trump's campaign chairman, pleaded guilty on Friday to two counts and agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors.

Prosecutor Andrew Weissman called Manafort's plea deal a cooperation agreement during an 11 a.m. hearing at the federal courthouse in Washington.

A charging document filed Friday in the District of Columbia accuses Manafort, 69, of participating in a conspiracy against the United States — involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports, violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and lying and misrepresenting to the Department of Justice.

The second charge, conspiracy to obstruct justice, is tied to his efforts to guide witness testimony after he was indicted last year.

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WHY was Manafort installed as Dip-Shit II's campaign manager ??

Because he was an experienced anti-american thug:

"...Manafort, 69, of participating in a conspiracy against the United States — involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports, violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and lying and misrepresenting to the Department of Justice..."

Now he will testify, under oath, about how he committed these crimes for his boss, King Ass-Clown.

I'll need to check the dates on all my betting slips, but it looks like "under" wins on "when will PM flip?" bet....

"...Per NBC, DSD45 has privately told friends he could be in serious legal jeopardy if Paul Manafort flips on him—implying Manafort knows of crimes committed by Trump..."

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

Rooting out corruption is always a good thing and I have no objection to anyone who is truly corrupt being targeted even if they have ties to Trump.

On the other hand, there's no evidence floated that Trump is corrupt In fact he's not even been accused of committing crimes. The best the left can do is say things like he's a bigger disaster to the USA than 911 was. Which is, of course, embarrassingly hyped hatred of the guy.

On the other hand, if we compare the legal treatment of Trump & associates with Hillary and Associates, the difference is night and day. Hillary would never survive half the amount of honest legal scrutiny that Mueller has put on Trump with her email server. And any Russian collusion on election meddling was committed by Hillary. Why and how Mueller's investigation into that could end up targeting Manafort for something he did before Trump even announced his candidacy and not Hillary is not much of a mystery, now is it?

Mueller is part of the Deep Swamp. And the Deep Swamp hates Trump. Just like you do, Jameson. How people could hate Trump so much they are willing to ally themselves with the federal machinations that have so completely undermined all the country is supposed to be about is an amazing demonstration of the power of human psychology.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-14   15:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jameson (#0)

A lot of nothingburger surrounded by a bunch of who gives a shit!

When is Muleface going after Clinton for actual crimes with actual victims????????????????

BTW how is that impeachment going or Trump quitting? Yeah that's what I thought!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-14   15:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)

On the other hand, there's no evidence floated that Trump is corrupt In fact he's not even been accused of committing crimes.

It takes time to build a case. If you recall, Bill Clinton was investigated by Ken Star for about 4 years...

Please be patient. We've yet to hear about all the greasy shit mikey Cohen "took care of" for your king, and New York is absolutely going to be bringing a butt-load of charges over the dumb-ass family's "foundation"... - and remember a few weeks ago, the CFO was granted immunity to testify before a grand jury about the crimes going on at Dip-shit's company??? - and don't forget about Stormy!!!

We have the US DOJ and Mr. Mueller to thank for this, right?

As for the russians, Mueller has testimony from DSD's co-conspirators and over a million pieces of evidence that will prove that the DSD campaign conspired with hostile foreign agents to deprive the American people of a fair and honest election.

Judgement day is coming!

"...any Russian collusion on election meddling was committed by Hillary..."

So what? Prove it. go on...lock her up...do it. no one cares about HRC. She could be sent to prison for life tomorrow and it would still not matter.

Why and how Mueller's investigation into that could end up targeting Manafort for something he did before Trump even announced his candidacy

Don't play stupid. PM was Dip-Shit's Campaign Chairman so any investigation into the greasy shit that was going on in the campaign would of course include the campaign chairman, right?

So the prosecutor is doing his job. prosecute every crime you uncover and follow where ever the evidence leads... You should start watching crime drama's on TV, they do this every week!

Mueller is part of the Deep Swamp.

Listen, there is no swamp, deep swamp, or deep state. These are purposely made up imaginary threats on which to blame all the greasy butt-fuckery that your party and your dip-shit president is pulling.

All the talk of a swamp and a deep state is just to keep the dim-witted and ignorant all wound up. - It's a crock James.

How people could hate Trump so much?

I'm not sure...maybe because he's an ass-clown, anti-american, degenerate, lying sack of shit?

Yep, that's it. I'm sure of it.

ok, so here's a challenge for you. Start a gofundme page for the purpose bringing HRC to justice. That's right!!! get off your ass and get going!

I'll bet you can raise Billions, because everyone believes what the Dip-Shit says about HRC, lock her up!!!

You're correct, "rooting out corruption is always a good thing" so you do your part and Mr Mueller will continue do his.

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-14   15:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jameson, Pinguinite (#3)

It takes time to build a case. If you recall, Bill Clinton was investigated by Ken Star for about 4 years...

In 1994, Paula Jones filed a lawsuit accusing Clinton of sexual harassment when he was governor of Arkansas. Clinton attempted to delay a trial until after he left office, but in May 1997 the Supreme Court unanimously ordered the case to proceed and shortly thereafter the pre-trial discovery process commenced.

I don't think so! I think Clinton wanted to make it go away whereas Trump said bring it on and clear my good name. Well never give a lefty an inch because they will take a mile!!

Justified  posted on  2018-09-14   16:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jameson (#0) (Edited)

Now he will testify, under oath, about how he committed these crimes for his boss, King Ass-Clown.

The first thing you've accidently been right about and now you know why Manafort wasn't indicted/prosecuted by the King Ass Clown Odumbass, he was in it up to his eyeballs. LOL...

Paul Manafort’s pro-Ukraine campaign reached the top of the White House, with one of the members of his lobbying effort meeting President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden in 2013, according to new court documents released Friday.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/14/manafort-ukraine-obama-biden-824747

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-14   18:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#5)

Paul Manafort’s pro-Ukraine campaign reached the top of the White House, with one of the members of his lobbying effort meeting President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden in 2013, according to new court documents released Friday.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/14/manafort-ukraine-obama-biden-824747

Well well -- isn't THAT interesting.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   18:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jameson (#3)

Please be patient.

We've yet to hear about all the greasy shit mikey Cohen "took care of" for your king, and New York is absolutely going to be bringing a butt-load of charges over the dumb-ass family's "foundation"... - and remember a few weeks ago, the CFO was granted immunity to testify before a grand jury about the crimes going on at Dip-shit's company??? - and don't forget about Stormy!!!

So...YOU, Jameson, are saying YOU are ok with to abuse, ruin, and destroy people who are innocent? And the use of Gestapo tactics with whom YOU dislike or disagree with?

What does THAT make YOU??

It has now been PROVEN that the entire cause and reason for the "Russia!!" Mueller investigation was illegal. Bogus. A pack of Big Lies.

It is now PROVEN that Mueller, Comey, Strzok, Rosenstein, etal were given to Green Light by 0bama and his cabal to frame an innocent Trump.

You now admit that "justice" is and never was your goal of Trump.

Like all good little freaks, fascists and punks, the source of your orgasm is simply masochism. And inflicting pain on others.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   18:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jameson (#3)

(How people could hate Trump so much?)

I'm not sure...maybe because he's an ass-clown, anti-american, degenerate, lying sack of shit?

Pure projection.

Ha!! Trump is "anti-American"?? The MAGA burns, doesn't it?

As to "degenerate," IF the books to 0bamas and Clintons history of "love life" were ever flung open, we'd find a lot of carpet-cleaning and C-sucking in limos, wouldn't we?

We'd discover Bubba had raped several women. And had UN-CONSENSUAL sex with them.

We'd discover HIGH TREASON committed by Barry and Bubba and Hitlery.

We'd discover Barry and Hitlery responsible for hundreds of thousands -- if not millions of people were murdered, slaughtered by ISIS and various Muzzie Terrorists in the Middle East and Africa. But...YOU don't care about those who WERE MURDERED. WHY NOT??

And right -- you're "not sure" why your own mentally defective ilk "hate Trump" precisely because there is no logical reason. You are simply tossing an infantile tantrum like a prissy little girl" "Waaaah, Trump hurt me!! How?? HE WON!!"

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   18:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator, Jameson (#7)

So...YOU, Jameson, are saying YOU are ok with to abuse, ruin, and destroy people who are innocent? And the use of Gestapo tactics with whom YOU dislike or disagree with? What does THAT make YOU??

He believes you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. There will never be enough proof to get a not guilty verdict.

For some reason I remember people from along time ago saying that's evil and made sure their people would not be held to that standard! For the life of me I can not remember their name?

Justified  posted on  2018-09-14   19:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Liberator, Jameson (#6)

Well well -- isn't THAT interesting.

Not really just using standard run of the mill common sense, which some people have no clue how to use just ask Jameson. lol...

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56965&Disp=12#C12

#12. To: hondo68 (#0)

The Obama administration didn't think what Manafort did was worth prosecution so you have to wonder what he might have done for them??

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82 posted on 2018-08-22 6:57:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-14   19:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82, Jameson (#10)

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56965&Disp=12#C12

#12. To: hondo68 (#0)

The Obama administration didn't think what Manafort did was worth prosecution so you have to wonder what he might have done for them??

A-haaa!! Nice dot-connecting, Unc.

All the more interesting.

(Where's Mueller's subpoena for Barry?? WE GOTS to get to the bottom of dis!!)

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   19:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator, Jameson (#8)

The MAGA burns, doesn't it?

You sure you wanna go there?

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Deckard  posted on  2018-09-14   19:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jameson (#3)

Please be patient. We've yet to hear about all the greasy shit mikey Cohen "took care of" for your king, and New York is absolutely going to be bringing a butt-load of charges over the dumb-ass family's "foundation"... - and remember a few weeks ago, the CFO was granted immunity to testify before a grand jury about the crimes going on at Dip-shit's company??? - and don't forget about Stormy!!!

I've been plenty patient. So has Mueller, and he's got lots left. He'll probably still be investigating collusion 2 years from now, but only in regards to Trump, not Hillary, of course, even though there's far more evidence of Hillary's guilt with Russians than Trump has even suspected at this point.

Stormy is easy to forget about. As I understand it, Cohen probably used Trump's money to pay her off, but without informing Trump about it, just as Cohen was recording conversations with Trump, and others, without informing them. (something that seems to be the fashion of late). Trump has a ton of cash. Of that he's guilty of, if being rich is, by itself, a crime. It does seem that Trump is guilty of hiring a sleazy lawyer. On that score: Guilty.

As for the russians, Mueller has testimony from DSD's co-conspirators and over a million pieces of evidence that will prove that the DSD campaign conspired with hostile foreign agents to deprive the American people of a fair and honest election.

If you were really concerned about a fair and honest election, you'd be more PO'd at Hillary than Trump.

"...any Russian collusion on election meddling was committed by Hillary..."

So what? Prove it. go on...lock her up...do it. no one cares about HRC. She could be sent to prison for life tomorrow and it would still not matter.

Okay, here you show your true colors. You don't care whether Hillary has interfered with the election and deprived the American people of a fair choice. You don't care about her stealing the D nomination from Sanders and planting her minion as chair of the DNC. But you DO care about Trump interfering with the election. So you are a phony. As fony as CNN is. You are simply on a personal, deluded hate mission on board the mass hysteria cruise liner like so many others.

So the prosecutor is doing his job. prosecute every crime you uncover....

Stop right there. No, Mueller is only investigating things related to Trump. He's NOT investigating any Russian collution from Hillary. That's off limits for him.

Listen, there is no swamp, deep swamp, or deep state. These are purposely made up imaginary threats on which to blame all the greasy butt-fuckery that your party and your dip-shit president is pulling.

The Deep Swamp State is very, very real. We've seen some of its minions working in the FBI get fired.

How people could hate Trump so much?

I'm not sure...maybe because he's an ass-clown, anti-american, degenerate, lying sack of shit?

Anyone calling Trump "anti-American" is clearly on drugs. I can understand someone objecting to his policies -- I do too, to some of them -- but Trump is clearly putting the USA first ahead of all other countries more than any president since Reagan, and possible more than him as well.

ok, so here's a challenge for you. Start a gofundme page for the purpose bringing HRC to justice. That's right!!! get off your ass and get going!

Is there a gofundme page to prosecute Trump?

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-14   19:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Justified, Jameson (#9)

He believes you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. There will never be enough proof to get a not guilty verdict.

Yup.

Jameson also especially believes in Thug-"Justice" and Gestapo tactics, and lynchings. And probably necklacing" la South Africa. Especially if your politics oppose his.

Trump is deemed "Guilty!" by the Jamesons of the world for supporting REAL freedom, REAL justice.

For some reason I remember people from along time ago saying that's evil and made sure their people would not be held to that standard! For the life of me I can not remember their name?

You mean to say, Dems would not alow themselves to be penalized for lying, committing evil, and advancing injustice? Or hold themselves to higher (or any standards)? There's an official Dem-Left-Fascist Cult credo out there?

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   19:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#12)

You sure you wanna go there?

Ain't a war you wanna fight, bro.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   19:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)

Excellent rebuttal, point by point. +100

Trump is clearly putting the USA first ahead of all other countries more than any president since Reagan, and possible more than him as well.

Amen.

Isn't is crazy how two people can look at exactly the very same events...and one side sees the absolute OPPOSITE of truth? Blows my mind.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   19:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator, Jameson (#16)

Honestly, the Trump hating phenomenon since he won the election, and even before that during the campaign, should be a subject of great interest to sociologists both now and in the coming years. The ability of significant portions of the population to be so deluded about Trump to the degree they are is just mind boggling. It's Mass Hysteria.

Kinda reminds me of the movie "Legend" I think it is, where Will Smith is among the last survivors in a zombie world who captures them one at a time to try to find a cure. Seems we have a live zombie specimen ourselves right here in the form of Jameson.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-14   19:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#11)

Where's Mueller's subpoena for Barry?? WE GOTS to get to the bottom of dis!!

Rimjob Robert subpoenaing one of his butt buddies Rimjob Barry?

lol...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-14   19:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite, Jameson (#17)

The Trump hating phenomenon since he won the election, and even before that during the campaign, should be a subject of great interest to sociologists both now and in the coming years.

The ability of significant portions of the population to be so deluded about Trump to the degree they are is just mind boggling. It's Mass Hysteria.

I agree -- that is IF sociologists in the immediate future won't be censored as much as I believe they will (already happening as you know across the board by Social Media giants, Academia, MSM, Corporate America, etc.)

Concur with your assessment -- this massive deception AND delusion...and Mass Hysteria. I'd thought it would be temporary, understanding some people can't ever deal with losing. But yes -- to THIS degree?? There literally millions of lunatics in the country. Never imagined a Pandemic of Insanity.

Kinda reminds me of the movie "Legend" I think it is, where Will Smith is among the last survivors in a zombie world who captures them one at a time to try to find a cure. Seems we have a live zombie specimen ourselves right here in the form of Jameson.

I remember it; Ha!! (poor Jameson has succumbed!!)

The scary thing is...there people actually do believe The Big Lie. And the nature of the Pandemic that supposedly threatens their very lives (Trump and the rest of us).

What makes these nuts unable to cope with reality? And keep on believing the hyped up Big Lies?

I recall standing in line at a Walgreens months ago. Some women in her 60s was screeching on after there had been an ugly MSM-facilitated news of a gun shooting incident. She made a big scene in the store about blaming "guns" and Trump before being shouted down as she went out the door.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   20:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82, (#18)

Rimjob Robert subpoenaing one of his butt buddies Rimjob Barry?

Hmmm...Could be a HomoLBQTXYZ thing. Seriously. Strzok strikes me as a 3 -Dollar Bill.

IMO: That Feeb chick he'd been texting -- NOT an "affair"; just two catty girls who happen to have infested the highest level of 0bama's highly homo-friendly ranks. If they dig a bit deeper they'll find "that" to be the source of a lot of Trump Hate.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-14   20:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#19)

Concur with your assessment -- this massive deception AND delusion...and Mass Hysteria. I'd thought it would be temporary, understanding some people can't ever deal with losing. But yes -- to THIS degree?? There literally millions of lunatics in the country. Never imagined a Pandemic of Insanity.

Remember the debate between H & D? I think it was #2. The moderator asked both if they'd accept the election results....

Oh so comical as we look back at all that's happened since Trump won. The left REFUSES to accept the election results almost 2 years later.

I remember when B Clinton beat H Bush. I was really upset. I considered B Clinton corrupt at that time. Just looking at him gave me that impression, and that was before I knew anything about him. Seems that sense was correct.

But in any event, I got over it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-14   21:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#13)

I've been plenty patient. So has Mueller, and he's got lots left. He'll probably still be investigating collusion 2 years from now, but only in regards to Trump, not Hillary, of course, even though there's far more evidence of Hillary's guilt with Russians than Trump has even suspected at this point.

2 years? doubtful, and unnecessary. It is probable that between Cohen, Manafort, and all the documents seized already, and everything PM is turning over now, it will be more than enough to put the GOP in a position to force Dip-Shit Dondon to leave the WH. in the next 6 months

there's far more evidence of Hillary's guilt

No one cares. HRC is irrelevant.

Stormy is easy to forget about. As I understand it, Cohen probably used Trump's money to pay her off, but without informing Trump about it,

"Probably"?? No definitely, and at DSDD's direction, as MC has already told Mueller. - Let's also not forget that Stromy has an attorney who wants to put DSDD on the stand...how do you think that will go?

You don't care whether Hillary has interfered with the election and deprived the American people of a fair choice. You don't care about her stealing the D nomination from Sanders and planting her minion as chair of the DNC. ...there's far more evidence of Hillary's guilt...

Prove your claims. If you do, you will be a hero. So please, please prove it. Honestly, the greasy shit that goes on at the DNC IS indeed secondary to the fact that DSD and his filty fanbois, criminally conspired with foreign agents.

Stop right there. No, Mueller is only investigating things related to Trump. He's NOT investigating any Russian collusion** from Hillary.

Again, I beg you. send all the proof you have to Mr. Mueller, send it to Faux News, DO IT NOW!!!

Or just post it here. credible proof - post it here. I will be your biggest supporter. DO IT!

The Deep Swamp State is very, very real.

No, you're delusional or simply gullible. Again, please, offer proof that there is a deep state.

Absent proof, all we are left with is your opinion.

he's an ass-clown, anti-american, degenerate, lying sack of shit?

Indeed. He acts like an ass and looks like a clown, conspiring against the people of the USA is absolutely anti- American. His history of banging women outside of marriage and screwing so many people who have worked for him makes him a degenerate. And this ass-bite lies more than any individual on record, which maakes him a lying sack- of-shit.

Is there a gofundme page to prosecute Trump?

How should I know?

Anyone calling Trump "anti-American" is clearly on drugs.

When someone is out of logical arguments, which I believe you are...the only defense is personal attacks.

I AM INDEED calling Dip-Shit DONDON anti-American. and I am not now, nor have I ever been "on drugs".

So in conclusion.....please consider that Paul Manafort, as Campaign Chairman for the Orange Russian's campaign, is the one who picked Pence!!

What will Paul be telling Mr Mueller about that??

One last question....Do you think DipShit JR. will be indicted this week, or next week?

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-15   19:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jameson (#22)

2 years? doubtful, and unnecessary. It is probable that between Cohen, Manafort, and all the documents seized already, and everything PM is turning over now, it will be more than enough to put the GOP in a position to force Dip-Shit Dondon to leave the WH. in the next 6 months

You have as much a chance at this, as the Klan had, trying to remove the Kenyan and his silverback like pri-MATE

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-15   19:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jameson (#22)

Okay, Trump should be gone in 6 months. How fitting that would be the March 15, 2019. The Ides of March. It's on the record here.

Good luck to you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-15   20:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Pinguinite (#24) (Edited)

Okay, Trump should be gone in 6 months.

Glad you're on board.

But seriously....you can't even argue that DSD and his indicted, convicted, and plea bargained team of the "best people" did not commit some greasy anti-American crimes.

Why would Mueller agree to a plea with Manafort?

He's already convicted, the next trial would be even more certain, and there were State charges that assured that even in the event that the WH moron couldn't bail him out with a pardon.

Why? Because your chosen one is, and always has been a self serving criminal.

You know this is the truth.

Actually, because of the details of a multitude of greasy fuckery by dip- Shit, his resignation could take place even sooner.

The mid-terms could be a very interesting turn of events...

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-15   21:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dip Shit Jameson (#25)

But seriously....you can't even argue that DSD and his indicted, convicted, and plea bargained team of the "best people" did not commit some greasy anti-American crimes.

I suppose your screen name has been changed against your will. I do not agree with that action at all.

In answer, I don't know that what Manafort was convicted of is any worse than what is commonly practiced in DC. Now I could easily accept the guy committed crimes. My issue with you is that you are casting this impression that everything was perfectly fine in DC before Trump got elected, and that if we can just get rid of Trump everything will, THANK GOD, finally be back to normal where constitutional rights are protected, the rule of law back in force and all corruption will be disposed of.

And that's the idea I seriously object to. So given that, why the hell are you so anxious to see Trump removed? What are YOU going to gain from that. What will the country gain from that? Sure you'll have some satisfaction that someone you detest has been punished, but... that is ALL you'll get out of it.

Now what benefit do **I** see in having Trump in office? #1: The establishement/deep state, that you do not believe exists, hates him. You can think of it as, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. You are all tuned in to crimes Trump's associates may have committed, yet you turn a completely blind eye to the crimes of Comey, Strzok and all those anti-Trump activists in the FBI. Regardless of whether Trump is a great or horrible prez, if you are going to harp on the law when it comes to Manafort and Cohen, the only way to avoid being a flaming hypocrite is to be in full favor of prosecuting these people who are using their official government positions to attack the lawfully elected president of the United States.

If you choose to only attack Trump's associates who may have committed crimes and completely ignore and exonerate those possible criminals who are attacking Trump, including Hillary that you claim isn't an issue, then YOU are an example of the very corruption I object to, and I'll go further and say it's because of that that I do not take seriously your legal objections to Trump. Because you are a hypocrite claiming to be all about the law, but only holding some people to it and not others.

Just like the Deep Swamp State does. And it sure seems that's what Mueller's doing too. He's applying very strict laws to Trump's associates while, so far, NOT going after everyone who has engaged in collusion and meddling to cheat the American people of a fair election.

Why would Mueller agree to a plea with Manafort?

Because Mueller probably hates Trump as much as you do, and would gladly grant leniency to Manafort in exchange for a chance to make himself legend for bringing down President Donald Trump, who is the Antichrist.

Why? Because your chosen one is, and always has been a self serving criminal.

You know this is the truth.

Everyone is self serving. And everyone is a criminal. Including you and me. It's just a question of how hard you want to look. A great benefit of Trump being president is the exposure of the FISA warrants that were submitted to secret courts with criminal perjury claims made by highest ranking FBI agents. They are self-serving criminals too. Only they are very, very BIG self serving criminals. Trump is a patriot. That's is a fact, by definition. You may disagree with his decisions, and sometimes I do too. But many of the decisions he makes as president are because he *believes* the decisions are good for America. Whether he's right or wrong is a separate question. He IS a patriot.

The mid-terms could be a very interesting turn of events...

I'm sure it will be. I think it will come down to a contest between mass hysteria and main street America. How many people will be fired up by the inflammatory Deep State MSM to vote against Trump vs that portion of the population that recognizes MSM lies for what they are and will side with Trump as a revolutionary middle finger jab at the Deep State.

Ten + years ago. MSM was king. Now with social media and the internet, people have learned about fake news and are more aware of it than ever before. MSM is no longer king.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-16   1:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pinguinite, AKA Stone (#26)

I suppose your screen name has been changed against your will. I do not agree with that action at all.

Heh heh, it's sort of predictable for the cat who runs this site.

He's a harmless drunk, don't mind him

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-16   16:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pinguinite (#26)

I don't know that what Manafort was convicted of is any worse than what is commonly practiced in DC. Now I could easily accept the guy committed crimes.

Mr. Manafort conspired against the people of the United States, Laundered dirty foreign money, and evaded income taxes to the tune of 10's of millions of dollars. Common practice in DC? Perhaps, but this man DESERVES to die in prison.

My issue with you is that you are casting this impression that everything was perfectly fine in DC before Trump got elected, and that if we can just get rid of Trump everything will, THANK GOD, finally be back to normal where constitutional rights are protected, the rule of law back in force and all corruption will be disposed of.

I've never made such a claim, and you are inferring what I didn't imply.
The workings of the government and the laws being passed that provide special treatment to those wealthy enough to control super-PACs has been a fucked-up greasy mess for a long time. Dip-Shit DonDon in my opinion would, and is making it far worse. There are two reasons- 1. DSDD45 is everything I regularly say abut him, and 2. The republicans in congress are willing accomplices that will do what ever they are paid to do, even if it fucks up everything (like in 2008). There was a massive amount of work to do then, and now there is much, much, more.

you turn a completely blind eye to the crimes of Comey, Strzok and all those anti-Trump activists in the FBI.

You refer to anti-dip-shit activists, when in reality they might just be the real crime-fighters. I'll err on the side of these good and honest federal agents until such time as they are charged and indicted. I certainly don't turn a blind eye to Comey ACTUALLY causing the election to turn to F-P45 when he sent the famous letter to congress in October of 2016 about the e- mail server!
Comey should be your hero!

..."you choose to only attack Trump's associates who may have committed crimes and completely ignore and exonerate those possible criminals who are attacking Trump, including Hillary that you claim isn't an issue..."

HRC IS NOT an issue. She lost and is off the map. She has ZERO influence and will be nothing but an embarrassing stain on history.

She has ZERO impact on anything and is of secondary interest.

My friend, I sincerely hope that HRC WJC and all the greasy Arkansas criminals and their DC minions ultimately become 18 months worth of lead story daily news cycle while their crimes are prosecuted.

I hope they all get what they deserve.

But today......there is a more urgent priority. Destroy the crime machine that is the Dip-Shit organization and his family and remove him from the most powerful position in the world.

I understand that you don't agree with my premise, but I own it.

And please remember, when Mr. Mueller's work is done, and there are even more convictions and more plea bargains, and more forfeitures of criminally attained riches, and this administration has been terminated.....that it was not the "boogie man" "deep state" that brought DSD down, but the rule of law.

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-16   21:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jameson (#28)

Two words you must remember in the

Two words... RETARDED SNOWFLAKE

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-16   21:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jameson (#28) (Edited)

but this man DESERVES to die in prison.

You deserve the death penalty for accessory murder. LIttle cunt.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-17   8:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dip Shit Jameson the democrat (#28)

I think you're deluded, as it seems so many other Trump haters are.

Dip-Shit DonDon in my opinion would, and is making it far worse. There are two reasons- 1. DSDD45 is everything I regularly say abut him, and 2. The republicans in congress are willing accomplices that will do what ever they are paid to do, even if it fucks up everything (like in 2008). There was a massive amount of work to do then, and now there is much, much, more.

You see, this is what gets me about the anti-Trumpers. I'm always looking for some substantial claim, something concrete from them about what's so bad about Trump. Here you give "2 reasons". Only problem is that both of them are pure fluff. No mention of what he's done or is doing, no mention of policies or acts as president. Just claims that he "is" something. Perhaps you should define the word "is"?

You got nothing on Trump, and neither does CNN. They just claim obtusely that he creates division and is a racist and he lies a lot in interviews (which I consider off the cuff claims that are often exaggerations as we all do from tiem to time), and that's all. Never anything specific about his acts as president.

What you want in office is a politician. Someone who's a smooth talker that tells people things that they think are nice and politically correct. Someone like W Bush or Obama. I've no use for such trash in office.

You are not alone though. CNN is right there with you, leading the mass delusion charge and they have millions of others as duped as you are. But good luck to you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-17   13:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pinguinite, the flip flop advantage, the hating is easy (#31)

President Trump makes it very easy to hate him, by being on several sides of every issue, He's always wrong! It's the Trump advantage.


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-17   14:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Pinguinite, nolu chan (#21) (Edited)

Remember the debate between H & D? I think it was #2. The moderator asked both if they'd accept the election results....

Oh so comical as we look back at all that's happened since Trump won. The left REFUSES to accept the election results almost 2 years later.

Yes...YES!!

And remember how resolute Hitlery and the Dems (even some Never-Trumper Pubbies) were about their insistence on an ABSOLUTE ACCEPTANCE OF ELECTION RESULTS?

Hitlery, Dems and needless to say, the MSM ALL ignore that; They/The entire Commie-Dem Left ALL immediately called themselves "The Resistance", best expressed as, "WE RESIST AND WILL FIGHT THE ELECTION RESULTS OF TRUMP WINNING, AND US LOSING!" Two years later and here they are...STILL refusing to accept LEGAL Election Results, launching Democrat jihad wherever they can.

I remember when B Clinton beat H Bush. I was really upset. I considered B Clinton corrupt at that time. Just looking at him gave me that impression, and that was before I knew anything about him. Seems that sense was correct.

That sense or instinct we shared was indeed correct. I was also disturbed that this lying creep beating Poppy Bush (who IMO definitely sandbagged that election.)

Our respective opinion was based on optics, what we heard and a subconscious assessment and vibe. In the news still was the G. Flowers affair; And I seem to recall the MSM understating or burying several of Bubba's peccadillo while overstating a floated rumor -- their usual dirty trick -- about a fake affair Poppy had at the same time as G. Flowers report (See? Even THEN the Dems accused their opponents of things THEY do. The MSM backs them up.)

I'd read of (and heard about) some leaked/revealed incidents from Bubba's Arkancide past; His glib, routine lying even then ("Clinton's an unusually good liar. Unusually good. Do you realize that?"--Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), in a 1995 interview). Etc.

Yes, it' be far more comical...if they were being arrested, jailed, and led up onto the gallows for Sedition, Obstruction of Justice, Witness Tampering, Conspiracy, Treason, etc. (Nolu would better be able to list the official charges.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-17   14:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dip Shit Jameson the democrat, Pinguinite (#22)

Honestly, the greasy shit that goes on at the DNC IS indeed secondary to the fact that DSD and his filty fanbois, criminally conspired with foreign agents.

"Honesty" isn't even on your insane radar.

Reality isn't within light years of your Mother Ship.

Adding 2 + 2 -- like climbing Everest, eh?

YOU? Talking about "filthy Fanbois"?? "Criminal conspiracies"? The DNC Sedition and coup is "secondary" to a charade and Mueller Kangaroo Court? Rich.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-17   14:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dip Shit Jameson the democrat, Pinguinite, GrandIsland, CZ82, ALL (#22)

I seen thousands of unhinged, deranged, insane posts over many years; This one by Jameson may top the cake.

Seriously -- that there are THESE types of people out there living among the rest of us should cause us to realize how disturbingly successful the brainwashing, re-education and indoctrination by the Left and Globalist freaks has been.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-17   16:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#33)

And remember how resolute Hitlery and the Dems (even some Never-Trumper Pubbies) were about their insistence on an ABSOLUTE ACCEPTANCE OF ELECTION RESULTS?

It's probably the most classic example of hypocrisy that has ever been publicly demonstrated, EVER.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-17   17:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Pinguinite (#36)

It's probably the most classic example of hypocrisy that has ever been publicly demonstrated, EVER.

Agree. UNPRECEDENTED.

But because the Insane Left controls the Fake Narrative via the Media machination (Mainstream & Social), they can afford to double, triple, quadruple down forever on lies and hypocrisy. With little blowback. And total impunity.

If that doesn't change...and change quick, there's no doubt where we're heading.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-17   17:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#35)

disturbingly successful the brainwashing, re-education and indoctrination by the Left and Globalist freaks has been.

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guilT - panic - hysTeria

mass - zero Tolerance - pc conformiTy

God help us
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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2018-09-17   18:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#37) (Edited)

It really deserves an encore! It's a hoot.

Especially the part where Hillary mocks Trump claiming the R primaries were rigged, when she rigged the D nomination.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-17   20:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pinguinite (#39)

Especially the part where Hillary mocks Trump claiming the R primaries were rigged, when she rigged the D nomination.

Yeah, oh the irony.

Hitlery...in typical fashion projecting...lying..from her high-horse. Madam Horsesh*t.

That whole, "WILL YOU ACCEPT THE ELCTION RESULTS??" posed to Trump, the subsequent outrage THEN...(where has it been for the last two years??)

She pronounced almost since Day One her figurehead as "The Resistance", facilitating the current ongoing CW2.

Ping -- I pondered this irrational hatred of Trump. Especially upon hearing the deranged lunatic and pervert, Uncle Joe Biden, former VP. Unbelievable, irrational hate in his heart (as well as in the respective heart of many Lefties/Dems):

Joe Biden: Trump Supporters Are ‘Virulent,’ ‘Dregs of Society’

I've concluded that the Left, Globalist and the Insane only "hate" him in lieu of actually hating on us -- we the patriots, we the whitey, we the manly-men, we the constitutionalists...we the sane. It's projection.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-18   14:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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