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Title: Trump to US Jews: I won’t give Palestinians aid until they make deal with Israel
Source: The Times of Israel
URL Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump ... erm=0_adb46cec92-c9b8930014-56
Published: Sep 7, 2018
Author: Tom Staff
Post Date: 2018-09-07 09:36:50 by IbJensen
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Views: 5680
Comments: 55

In call to mark Rosh Hashanah, president also says Iranians have ‘lost their mojo’ since he quit the nuclear deal, and are now ‘fighting for their own survival’

US President Donald Trump told Jewish leaders Thursday that the US would not give aid to the Palestinians until they reach an agreement with Israel. He also said the Iranian regime had “lost their mojo” since he withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal, and was now fighting for its survival. In quitting the deal, he said, he had done “a great thing for Israel.”

In a conference call with several dozen American Jewish leaders ahead of Rosh Hashanah, Trump noted that he had recently slashed immense amounts of US aid to the Palestinians — a reference to the administration’s recent cuts in overall aid to the Palestinian Authority and its complete defunding of the UN’s Palestinian refugee agency UNRWA. The US would resume funding, he said, but only if the Palestinians reached a deal with Israel.

“What I will tell you is I stopped massive amounts of money that we were paying to the Palestinians and the Palestinian leaders,” Trump said to the Jewish leaders. “The United States was paying them tremendous amounts of money. And I say, ‘You’ll get money, but we’re not paying until you make a deal. If you don’t make a deal, we’re not paying.'”

“I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all” for US aid to be utilized as a bargaining chip, the president added. Rather, “I think it’s disrespectful when people don’t come to the table.”

Also in the call, the US president expressed confidence that an Israeli- Palestinian deal would be done.

Asked by Prof. Alan Dershowitz: “Should the Jewish community be optimistic that you can help bring about a peaceful resolution of the conflict that we all pray for all the time?,” the president replied: “The answer to that is a very strong yes — you should be. It is, as I said before, really considered to be one of the toughest deals to make of any kind. I don’t kind what kind of a deal you’re talking about. If you look at Israel and the Palestinians, it’s always top of everybody’s list in terms of levels of difficulty.”

Trump also said that he had removed the first obstacle to a deal: Jerusalem — which Trump last December recognized as Israel’s capital and where in May he moved his embassy. Further ahead, Israel would have to do something for the Palestinians, he said, without specifying.

“The fact is that I took something off the table,” said Trump. “If you go back and look at your negotiations with the Palestinians over the years, the first thing was Jerusalem and moving the embassy to Jerusalem, thereby making it the capital. And I will tell you, we’ve taken that off the table.”

He added: “Now, does that mean Israel is going to do something that will (inaudible) for the Palestinians? Yes. What is it going to be? I can’t tell you. But I can tell you that by doing what I did, Alan, we took the biggest bone of contention, a point that nobody ever got beyond for the second dilemma — for the second problem — they never got beyond it. We took it off the table. And I think it’s actually going to help a lot in making a deal, as we say, with the Palestinians.

“Now, most people think just the opposite. They said, “Oh, you did a mistake.” Well, I disagree. I disagree. So I think that we have a very good chance of doing it.”

On dealings with Iran, Trump said that when he came into office, the question was when Iran would take over the Middle East, probably including Israel. Now, however, since he withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal, he said, the Israelis were feeling more safe. He also said he believed the Iranians would be in touch soon about a new deal.

“From the day I did it [quit the 2015 deal], they’ve lost their mojo… The day before I took over as president, Iran — it was not a question of how big and how strong they were; it was a question of when will they take over the entire Middle East. And that probably includes Israel, in the mind of a lot of people,” he said.

“And if you look at them today, they’re not looking at the Mediterranean any longer,” said Trump. “They’re not looking at places that they were going to routinely take over. And I think Israel feels a lot safer than they’ve felt in many, many years.

“Iran is fighting for their own survival,” he went on. “They’ve got demonstrations in every city. This is far worse than it was years ago when President Obama could’ve maybe crushed Iran if all they needed was a positive statement — the people that were demonstrating. Well, these demonstrations are larger, but they’re more widespread. They’re all over the country.

“So Iran is no longer the same country. I would imagine that they’ll be calling in the not-too-distant future to try and make a deal. If we can make a real deal, we’ll do it. If they don’t call, that’s okay too. Eventually, they’re going to have no choice…

“I can only say from the standpoint of Israel, what I did was a great thing for Israel. And what I did was also a very good thing for world peace, because everywhere we went — especially in the Middle East — where there was a problem, Iran stood behind that problem.”

In summation, said Trump, “I terminated the deal, like I said I would during the campaign. It turned out to have a much bigger impact than I thought. I did it primarily because of nuclear, but I knew it wouldn’t be great for their economy. I had no idea how devastating it would be… That is not the same country that was in existence when I took over as president of the United States.”

At the start of the call, which was hosted by his son-in-law Jared Kushner, Trump spoke of his own links to the Jewish people: “My connection to Judaism is also personal. I am the very proud father of a Jewish daughter, Ivanka, and my son-in-law, who I’m very proud of also — I will say that very loudly — Jared, and my several Jewish grandchildren, namely three beautiful Jewish grandchild that I love.”

US Ambassador David Friedman, who was also on the call, meanwhile, said that the US Embassy in Jerusalem would be double its current size by next summer.

“We have a beautiful campus. We have continuously operated our embassy since May 14th. We have about 150 people working there already. We’re beginning phase two of the construction period, which is beginning in a week or two. And we will roughly double the size by June of 2019. After that, we’ll consider what final steps to make to complete the transition,” said Friedman.

“We are looking for a site, and we have — we think we have that site located for the Ambassador’s Residence — something near and dear to my heart. And we’ll have further announcements on that.

“But I would tell you that the embassy in Jerusalem has become a major tourist site in Israel. People — I’m there almost every day, and people just pull up their cars to the front of the embassy, they get out, they take pictures,” said the ambassador. “I’ve seen some people praying there. I’ve actually seen many people crying there.”


Poster Comment:

At first I wondered what Chuckie Schumer thought of this, but then I remembered that he, like Lieberman, Shiff, et al, aren't Jews; they're Satanists.

Brilliant President Trump! Why couldn't previous Presidents have done this???

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#2. To: IbJensen (#0)

“I think it’s disrespectful when people don’t come to the table.”

I agree. So Trump should have cut off aid to both countries until they reached a deal. What's Israel's incentive to sit down and negotiate?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   9:49:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

What's Israel's incentive to sit down and negotiate?

Israel has sat down so damned many times since the imbecile Jimmie Carter claimed that the 'Camp David Accords' has finally brought peace between Israel and the 'Palestinians'. And who gave this gaggle that title of Palestinians? There are no such peoples!< p>

So time and time again peace was declared and very soon thereafter the bombs commenced to be hurled and the rockets were fired at Israel killing any Israeli in the path.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-09-07   9:54:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen (#3)

"Israel has sat down so damned many times …"

They sat down as many times as the Palestinians when you think about it. So that's not saying anything.

What IS saying something is the position Israel takes every time they DO sit down -- "My way or the highway". We're supposed to take Israel's "negotiations" seriously when, for example, Ehud Olmert proposed keeping the occupied fertile land in the West Bank in exchange for an equal amount of the Negev Desert?

And he did that with a straight face.

"And who gave this gaggle that title of Palestinians?"

The same ones who named the people living in Italy "Italians" and the people living in Germany "Germans" and … well, you get the idea.

Read some history. Start with the British Mandate for Palestine, then take a guess what they called the people living there.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   10:24:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#5)

Read some history. Start with the British Mandate for Palestine, then take a guess what they called the people living there.

Get the muslim scumbags out of Israel. Fuck the UN.

Trump should surround the UN and kill all the muslims.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-07   10:58:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Get the muslim scumbags out of Israel.

Fuck the UN.

Kinda hard to live peacefully with these people. Wait...it's IMPOSSIBLE.

The UN?? A viper's nest of demonic hate. IT needs to be nuked.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-07   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#12)

Kinda hard to live peacefully with these people. Wait...it's IMPOSSIBLE.

I agree. Which is why they wish to have their own state.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   12:06:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#21)

Which is why they wish to have their own state.

You DO understand that Trans-Jordan was a YUGE land mass allocation for Muzzies, RIGHT?? Then why haven't the Muzzie bros and sistah give the Palis THAT land??

Moreover...the land sliver Israeli was given was mostly barren...UNTIL they made it green. And then and ONLY then did the so-called "Palis" want to hijack it. They are THIEVES. As Mr. Law & Order you don't recognize this Plan as Day fact.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-07   12:13:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#22)

You DO understand that Trans-Jordan was a YUGE land mass allocation for Muzzies,

Trans-Jordan (later Jordan) was payback by the British to the Sharif of Mecca (Hussein ibn Ali al-Hashimi) who, along with "Lawrence of Arabia", defeated the Ottomans in WWI. It had nothing to do with the Palestinians west of the Jordan river.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   12:45:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite, pinguinite (#25)

Trans-Jordan (later Jordan) was payback by the British to the Sharif of Mecca (Hussein ibn Ali al-Hashimi) who, along with "Lawrence of Arabia", defeated the Ottomans in WWI. It had nothing to do with the Palestinians west of the Jordan river.

WHERE did I assert that the Trans-Jordan land allocation included land for/as "Palestinian" interests?

I don't know the source(s) of your understanding of the Balfour Declaration and background and original proposals of UN Res 181, but even as Arab states agreed to establish "Israel", the The Fix was in. First on having Israel's original land area tactically reduced dramatically...then of course, a well-coordinated invasion of Israel that would make its state an academic footnote.

An already corrupt and hijacked PTB cabal, led by POS Britain and France AND the US (allied with the surrounding Arabs) "knew" Israel would be slaughtered immediately before the ink on that UN agreement was dry. They criminally and purposely denied Israel planes, armor, armaments. WERE YOU AWARE OF ANY OF THIS?? How Israel was able to defend itself is...miraculous. yes, DIVINE.

Real history. It exists. And the truth of the matter whether 1948 or 2018. To be fair, you're not alone in getting duped Big Time. The Left and Globalists have (and still) controlled political narratives since the mid-19th century.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-07   13:09:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#30)

WHERE did I assert that the Trans-Jordan land allocation included land for/as "Palestinian" interests?

Then why are you saying the Jordanians have some obligation to give land to the Palestinians?

"First on having Israel's original land area tactically reduced dramatically..."

Second request. Where are you getting that information?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   13:25:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#31) (Edited)

Then why are you saying the Jordanians have some obligation to give land to the Palestinians?

As opposed to Israel ceding THEIR fertile land and established infrastructure to Muzzie thugs and psychopaths??

Not only Jordan, but the REST of Arab-Muzzie nations were morally obligated to share Arab-Muzzie land with their "bothers". Yet you don't see the rationale here??

Even at the outset of UN 181 there was NO mention of "What about the Palestinians?" by ANY one. No Muzzie nation complained. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT WAS??

Did you know Jordan expelled and MURDERED Palis by the bushelful as they tried to emmgrate to Jordan? That's right -- they locked them OUT. But you are looking for Israel to surrender their God-given, UN-mandated land to a hostile people swearing "DEATH!" to Israel -- "Palestinians" who simply have NEVER exited as a nation, a culture, a history??

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-07   13:37:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#34)

As opposed to Israel ceding THEIR fertile land and established infrastructure to Muzzie thugs and psychopaths??

No one is asking Israel to cede their land, fertile or not. Israel transferred civilians to land that was not theirs. They were warned not to do this by the UN and the United States. Israel told everyone to go fuck themselves.

NOW they're whining about giving it up? Then I say Israel can go fuck themselves.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-07   13:50:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: misterwhite (#36)

No one is asking Israel to cede their land, fertile or not. Israel transferred civilians to land that was not theirs. They were warned not to do this by the UN and the United States. Israel told everyone to go fuck themselves.

Wait a minute; You are actually citing the UN one again as some kind of impartial, fair body concerned over the welfare of...Israelis??

Where were they when Israel was invaded in '48, '56, '67. and '73 wen the ARabs invaded WITHOUT provocation?? Oh that's right -- the UN and Arabs told Israel to Eff THEMSELVES. Every single time.

Israel beat back every one o those illegal those advances...and ONLY then did the reptilian liars from the UN stop the wars...because Israel was kickin' azz, Frankly they had NO compulsion to give back an INCH of land they won fair and square.

NOW they're whining about giving it up? Then I say Israel can go fuck themselves.

Well, of course that's your position. Because you are a UN-Muzzie Symp.

Israel to you and your UN-Muzzie pals: GET BENT.

Liberator  posted on  2018-09-07 14:08:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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