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Title: Weisselberg Flips
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Vox
URL Source: https://www.vox.com/2018/8/24/17779 ... isselberg-immunity-trump-cohen
Published: Aug 25, 2018
Author: Jen Kirby
Post Date: 2018-08-25 09:55:17 by Willie Green
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Views: 7788
Comments: 53
Trump Organization finance chief Allen Weisselberg has been granted immunity in exchange for giving prosecutors information for the investigation into Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen and the hush money payments Cohen made to women during the 2016 presidential campaign. The Trump Organization CFO’s cooperation is the latest twist in the Manhattan US attorney’s office’s prosecution of Cohen, which began with an FBI raid in April. This week, Cohen pleaded guilty to eight federal charges, implicating the president of the United States in those crimes. Weisselberg is perhaps not as visible a figure in Trumpworld as Cohen, but he might be even more important. He’s served as the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer since 2000 — so if anyone knows about the company’s financials, it’s him. Weisselberg was subpoenaed in the investigation into Cohen, though it hasn’t been confirmed that he has actually appeared before a grand jury, according to the Wall Street Journal. He has met with prosecutors, but the information he’s provided — including whether Trump knew about the payments to the women — is still a question. The raid on Cohen was often seen as the biggest legal threat to Trump, but Weisselberg talking might be an even bigger problem for the president. As the New Yorker’s Adam Davidson, who has covered the Trump Organization extensively, predicted: “Get ready for the Autumn of Allen Weisselberg.” Weisselberg has worked for the Trumps for decades; before joining the company, he worked for Donald Trump’s father, Fred Trump. When Trump became president, he handed over the day-to-day control of the business to his two elder sons and Weisselberg. The CFO had previously been linked to the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, the porn actress who says she had an affair with Trump in 2006. The charging papers in Cohen’s appear to confirm the connection. Weisselberg wasn’t named in the charging papers, but he’s listed as “Executive-1,” and he arranged a $420,000 reimbursement to Cohen, which included $130,000 Cohen sent to Daniels ahead of the November 2016 election to keep her quiet about her alleged affair with Trump. Weisselberg worked with another, unidentified, Trump Organization executive to make those payments, though it’s unclear if Weisselberg knew the purpose of the retainer to Cohen. He was also named on a secretly recorded tape in September 2016, in which Cohen discusses a payoff to former Playboy model Karen McDougal. At one hard-to-decipher point in the tape, Cohen can be heard telling Trump that he’s “spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up …” At the time of the tape’s release last month, Alan Futerfas, an attorney for the Trump Organization, denied to the Washington Post that Weisselberg had any involvement in the payoff and was merely “a bookkeeper who simply carries out directions from others about monetary payments and transfers.” But “bookkeeper” might be a bit of an undersell. Weisselberg, again, took control of the Trump Organization with the president’s two sons. He was also listed as the treasurer for the Trump Foundation, which was recently sued by the New York state attorney general’s office for violating state and federal laws. Weisselberg reportedly also did Trump’s personal tax returns for at least some years. Which means if there’s something sketchy in Trump’s finances, or the finances of the Trump Organization, Weisselberg likely knows about it. He is “deeply familiar with the Trump Organization’s financial housekeeping,” Timothy L. O’Brien, the author of TrumpNation, wrote in Bloomberg on Friday. “Trump — a man who rarely trusts anyone — confided in Weisselberg and relied on him to sign off on details of the company’s most significant deals.” A former Trump Organization employee told NBC reporter Katy Tur last month, after news of his subpoena broke, that Weisselberg “knows where all financial bodies are buried within the Trump organization. He knows Trump’s net worth. He knows any and every expenditure out of Trump Org was approved by Alan [sic].” And that might be of interest not just to prosecutors in the Southern District of New York but to special counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller has reportedly been interested in the finances and business activities of the Trump Organization, including a failed attempt to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. And Weisselberg might have some answers.
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He spoke to prosecutors in the investigation into Michael Cohen,
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
This is exactly what Trump warned about when this investigation started -- that prosecutors would use it as an excuse to investigate his business dealings and charge him with the smallest infrasction.
Yeah, like, "That deal fell through in 2005". That's the answer.
"The impeachment of 10,000 cuts." Am I the only one thinking officials in NY need to meet the gallows?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Keep Hope Alive, Choo-Choo.
Sessions has bigger neTs - fish To fry We'll see Hah hah If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Hardly. These sociopaths shouldn't be close to any gummint building. Unless they are being escorted to that "staging area". And don't forget the tar & feathers at cocktail hour before the main course.
He knew it, the rest of us knew it. What's been disturbing is that this charade keeps on growing despite exposing the entire operation as part of The Coup. After the mid-terms I predict Trump releases a sh**-load of "sealed docs". Oooops. Sealed no more.
The rest of us are "interested" or rather, "fascinated" by Herr Mueller's entire employment history and identities of who he's received pay-offs from to play Grand Inquisitor.
Manhattan US attorney They know the Donnell all too well in Manhattan, he ain't going on the misunderstood list like the Trumpkin fanbois are hoping.
BULLSHIT: [Paragraph 1] REALITY: [Paragraph 4] It is unknown what Weisselberg may have said. It is unknown why he was granted immunity. He could have been granted immunity to force him to testify by taking away his fifth amendment defense. Paragraph 1 is a bunch of speculation unsupported by the cited WSJ article.
It's a partisan tactic. Shouldn't be done to Trump. Shouldn't have been done to Clinton over Whitewater.
He was the governor of Arkansas at the time and used Whitewater as a pay-to- play scheme. Whitewater was the precursor to the the Clinton Foundation -- a pay-to-play on a massive scale involving not just individuals but entire foreign governments. Compare that to the liberal outcry if one foreign national stays at a Trump hotel.
Had the Whitewater probe stayed on Whitewater, that would have been fine. But it didn’t.
It did. Then Ken Starr was assigned the White House FBI files controversy and the White House travel office controversy. Then Paula Jones filed for sexual harassment and Clinton lied about it. These were separate investigations (with some overlap). Conversely, Mueller was specifically tasked with investigating a Trump connection to Russia hacking our election, despite the fact that there was ZERO credible evidence that such a connection existed.
Meh.
True!! Perhaps it has to do with the 1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY. How long do you think it will be before we find out?? Over / Under 60 days
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
That you want Paul Ryan for President? heh heh heh!!! Good one! The probability of Paul Ryan being the Speaker of the House, when the inevitable occurs, is remote. And let's be honest, it really won't matter who is next in line. Once the end game plays out, the congress and the WH will simply tread water until 2020. I don't want Paul Ryan for anything.....
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
on the other hand.... Ryan would probably love to see Dip-Shit Donnie and his closeted gay companion mikey pence go down....(pun intended!!) maybe you're right, he's on Mueller's side!!! September is going to be a fun month!!!
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
True!! Perhaps it has to do with the 1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY. Perhaps he was given immunity because you gave good head to horseface. Why "1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY" would cause Mueller to give immunity to Weisselberg is a train of logic only you can follow. Long enough for you to work out a few more immunity deals. In the Cohen case, it is unknown if Weisselberg was called before a grand jury. If he was, there seems to be indictment of anybody.
Bingo! Ryan will be gone before January 20, 2025 inevitably arrives.
Trump should end the investigation, pardon everybody (including himself), and use the same backdoor methods to rig the voting machines that the Democrats do, to ensure that his party wins the mid-terms. Then go nuclear on everything, install the entire Republican agenda, use the CIA, FBI and Justice Department (newly reconstituted) to systematically prosecute every prominent Democratic political leader or donor. One side or the other will be Sulla and Caesar. If we're going to have a dictator, I'd rather it be Trump than a Clinton, or Pelosi, or Gates, etc.
The dictator that would result from your plan would be named "Putin"
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
Ok. Putin's a pretty effective leader. Not very bloody-handed. Maintains law and order. Cares for the Church. Does not have an appetite for aggressive war. As far as world leaders go, he strikes me as the most consistently effective. Yes, he's hard. Russia is a hard land full of hard people. I'm sure that it's not fun to get into a high-stakes power-struggle with Vladimir Putin, or to be a Russian spy who turns coat. I'd imagine that's a short trip to a lot of pain followed by the afterlife. So, Russian spies who want to turn coat, beware, and domestic Russian contemporaries who want to challenge Putin for dominance, probably ought to think again. As far as being a world leader, though, he's not as bloodyminded as the Bushes were, and is more consistent and patient and rational than Obama was. So, if that's the threat - if Trump wins out, then Putin is calling the shots for a time. fine. That means we won't be getting into any nuclear wars, or conventional wars in Europe or Asia. It means that the Middle East will sort itself out into a balance of power situation. It means that Ukraine will not becoming part of NATO, and NATO won't be putting nukes or missile shields into Eastern Europe. Ok. Whatever. Small beer. Putin has no interest in ruling the world. He wants Russia to be secure in the top rank of nations, and for the world order to be pleasing to Moscow. If Putin were Stalin, that would be bad. He isn't. In truth, I rather admire him as a political leader. I think he's a patriot for his country. And I think the only reason he's an adversary (not an enemy) of the United States is because we have worked so damned hard to make him one. I think it is in our best interest to have peace with Russia and to cooperate as friends. So, holding up Vladimir Putin as somebody I should quail in terror at just doesn't work. I'm not only not afraid of Putin, I think he's an admirable and effective leader. That he does mean things to mean people in Russia is not my concern. The Russians support him because he does a lot of good things for MOST Russians, by keeping the peace, establishing law and order, and generally developing things. Yeah, the power games at the very top of Russian society are pretty terrifying. But they wouldn't be if those at the top just got in line behind Putin. He's not out there CREATING enemies to destroy. Putin is an elected emperor. He's good at it, a Russian Reagan. I don't have any problem with him becoming the dominant world leader. It isn't as though he's going to be revoking the First Amendment. Vladimir Putin doesn't give a damn about American, or French, or anybody else's domestic politics other than maybe Ukraine's, Belarus's, and the crazy Islamic shithole republicans whence radicals could come and blow up theaters in Moscow. Obviously he doesn't want hostile governments in Paris or London or Berlin or Washington. And there's no particular reason why we should be having governments hostile to him in any of those places. It is not in the interest of the USA and our people to have a Cold War with Russia. It is stupid. It is in the interest of careerist intelligence agents who don't want to learn new skills, for whom "Russia the enemy" is simply ingrained. But really, Russia and the US should properly see each other like France and English did circa 1905. There are other threats out there so much more important, that burying the hatchet and becoming friends is more important than letting the habits of mind of long enmity maintain the enmity after its sell-by date. France and England managed to ally, permanently, to defeat Germany. Russia and America should be at the Entente Cordiale stage, not trying to find a path to a stupid new cold war over nothing of importance. And the defense industry can get plenty rich building stuff to oppose China and the Muslim fanatics. We don't need Russia as a foil to justify expenditures. If the dictator that results from my plan is Putin, then good. He will parcel off the duty of running America to some American, and get on with the business of running Russia. Vladimir Putin does not give a good goddamn about funding Social Security or the Amtrak budget. He's got his own borscht to boil. This is so freaking obvious, I am amazed that the name "Putin" is invoked like the boogeyman. Putin's ok.
Once the end game plays out, the congress and the WH will simply tread water until 2020. In your fevered, TDS-afflicted alleged mind, what is "The End Game"? And whom or what do you see as its author? IF you're actually interested in truth at all and the political force behind the scene that pull the levers of power, you may want to take a listen of the Matt Bracken vid I just posted. He explains just how the SES (Gangsta Shadow Govt) and its ongoing collective mass mind-control and molding public opinion takes shape. Bracken notes that when the MSM (and specifically, The New York Times) first heard of Hillary's "Russia-Trump election tampering", they ridiculed it. But that was before they received their orders from their masters, this SES org. Afterward, the entire SES-controlled Media got their script to parrot each other on this "TRUMP-RUSSIA!!" narrative, at times word-for-word.AND the 24/7 smear of Trump, his family, and anyone connected TO him. Upon listening to Bracken's explanation, you may resent being so effortlessly manipulated into taking a certain (Dem-Left) viewpoint and demonizing of Trump so effortlessly that had ZERO basis of fact...without knowing why or how it happened.
Ryan would probably love to see Dip-Shit Donnie and his closeted gay companion mikey pence go down....(pun intended!!) You can't possibly be serious, can you? Do you realize how loony the above sounds? (AND...I can't tell if you're pro-homo, anti-homo or "homophobic".) Paul Ryan -- like many in Congress -- are quitting ASAP. Precisely because they will be connected to The Coups and the money & power behind the scene who actually OWN those politicians and their Congressional/Senate Seats.
IMO everyone of these cases of "granted immunitah" are: 1) Preemptive GET OF OF JAIL CARDS" for the guilty
The Last Train To Logicville left long ago for the Fairy Tale Brigade. The TDS mental patients are so desperate for a whiff of "TRUMP'S GUILTY!!!" that if the Mainstream Media led by MSNBC told them "President Trump and Vlad Putin carved their names and hearts in a tree in Moscow!!", they run with it over a cliff. Long enough for you to work out a few more immunity deals. Yup. We'll also find out that "A Few" will wind up being "ANYONE who farted in the general direction of Trump in the last 70 years". They'll keep on pumping out these bogus "witnesses" and "immunity" deals...right up until the GOP holds the House and Senate. In which case Trump will LOUDLY dissolve this entire charade, along with the ouster as AG of the severely compromised/blackmailed Jeff ("Am-I-Bending-Over-Far Enough, Daddy??") Sessions.
+1000. Trump's Nuke-Option must be entertained. IT shreds the entire Shadow Goob and Deep State echelon's strangulation of logic, integrity, and the US Constitution. Enough of the NWO-Shadow Gummint bogus theater and tantrums. We have to assume Trump is awaiting the results of the mid-terms to pull that trigger. And wasn't it odd that he's been warned by GOPe Senators (and that little maggot Scaramucci) NOT to fire Sessions?
So, holding up Vladimir Putin as somebody I should quail in terror at just doesn't work. I'm not only not afraid of Putin, I think he's an admirable and effective leader. I agree 110%. On all counts. I find him "admirable" because he's also taken on the minions of the globalist gangstas/NWO who've also tried to frame HIM and fellow "Outsider" Donald Trump at the same time. This is so freaking obvious, I am amazed that the name "Putin" is invoked like the boogeyman. It truly has been amazing. Massive hysteria was created simply by instructing every MSM propaganda organ to start parroting "RUSSIA-TRUMP!!!" 24/7 since the election. Russia and Putin were NEVER "The Enemy" until Trump stepped on stage after his victory over Hitlery was announced. Suddenly the Deep State/Democrat New Bogeyman was found and liberal-Dem Pods alleged brains were scooped out like giant melon balls.
Immunity is also given after a witness is subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury and refuses to answer any questions by invoking his 5th Amendment privilege regarding self-incriminating statements. An unasked for, possibly unwanted, grant of immunity may be used to take away the possibility of any prosecution resulting from desired testimony, forcing the witness to answer questions. Getting any useful information from the hostile witness may be like pulling teeth, but he will need to respond to the questions asked. A grant of immunity may also be used as a favor to protect the guilty, as I feel was done with some of the people in the Hillary Clinton email non-investigation. The charging document against Cohen was not an indictment from a grand jury, but was an information created by the prosecutor. That Weisselberg was subpoenaed and granted immunity does not necessarily mean he gave them anything useful. Grand jury proceedings, if there were any, are held in secret. All that is known is that no indictment has been made public. While some pundits have opined that Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator, not even Michael Cohen was indicted.
I'm familiar with bracken's shtick, he's in the same league as alex jones. He's a waste of time. what is "The End Game"? Easy and simple to understand. Dip-shit Donnie is up to his ears in greasy illegal shit-deals and he's now just a tool for those to whom he owes. That bull-shit is about to catch-up to him and his merry band of jerk-offs. The end game is that he leaves office and is punished for his crimes. No sinister secret societies full of scary puppet-masters. Your president is just another wanna-be big-shot who took money from the wrong "bankers"
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
And he is 10 times cleaner than any demoncrap out there! Trump is a businessman that grew up learning to fight corrupt assholes like Clintons basically the demoncrap party government to make a living. At Trumps worse he is cleaner than 90% of the politicians out there. He knows how to kick your asses and that pushes you guys to the point of psychotic behavior. What this is all about is stall and destroy anyone that dears to stand up to the deep state criminals you so love. So what the fuck does that make you!!!!
What an ignorant remark, you're such a drama-queen. ..... None of the above. I don't care. Fuck anyone you want of legal age and consent, it is none of my business. My point was quite easy to understand - for anyone of average intelligence - Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man, who hates being in the closet so much that he takes every opportunity to rant against any thing or any one he perceives as "homosexual" It's a sick pattern in the republican world...... and Mike Pence is typical. Oh, and also - see my tag line!
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
Among the greatest scams in history are the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. That greasy illegal shit runs ocean deep. As for jerkoffs, that's Slick Willie on the job. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 18.
Gosh. What makes it obvious? I have admittedly poor “gaydar”, but I’d think if something was really obvious that even I could see it. Example: Lindsey Graham may as well wear a feather boa. But Pence? In 2018 is anybody really in the closet like that anymore? Does anybody really care? Graham is obviously as queer as a three dollar bill, but South Carolingians keep electing him. Indiana is more laid back than South Carolina. Why would Pence have to hide so much that he was bitter? I’m really curious.
Have you considered suicide?
Vic, It is my experience that there are exactly TWO types of Males. Type 1: I can't imagine how two men or two women can find each other sexually attractive. I don't get it....but live and let live, I guess. Type 2: Disgusting!! Sick, sinful, all homos should be killed!! Faggots!!!! (ok - I'm painting in broad strokes...but you get my drift...) Personally, I am 100% down with any relationship that is adult in nature and consensual. I have numerous gay friends and their sex lives are none of my business. Mike Pence, according to the "gay community" is clearly a closeted gay man. While I am usually the last one to "know" if someone is gay, I believe that those whom I trust are accurate when they "call someone out" Again, I don't care - fuck any adult you wish, rock on!!! but dishonesty destroys trust. On the other hand.... Maybe Pence is just the most up-tight "davey and goliath" ass-bite on earth....but I doubt it. Men who are the most angry hateful assholes toward gay men..... Are usually sucking dick on the down-low..........
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
OK, who gives a shit? You're an attorney, get busy!! bring the Clintons to justice!!! Please!! Do it now, quit bitching about them!!! no one cares any more!!! As for jerkoffs, that's Slick Willie on the job. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 18. After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink. I understand - you LOVE to fantasize about this - but come on!!! Either YOU do something about it, or let it go! No One Cares
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
Of course not. Get off the pipe, and pour out the MD2020 - You're projecting your own self-loathing with your ignorant pathetic personal attacks....just like Dip-Shit Donnie.....
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
In my experience there are at least two other types of Males. Type 3: Those who acknowledge that, yeah, some men actually are attractive, but that many women are a lot MORE attractive, so unless doing life in prison, that first thought is always going to be idle. Type 4: Those who are turned on by men, and who are not very attracted to women. Type 4 are gay. I think that most of male humanity falls into Type 3 - and history and the experience of cultures worldwide, and simple observation of movie and advertisement casting, bears out that belief. I think that most men don't want to think about that, and certainly will not admit it, so they express themselves as Type 1, with those who are REALLY worried about it expressing themselves as Type 2. For my part, I'm not afraid of much of anything, so it's just a shoulder shrug.
You deserve some tainted AIDS blood, in your next transfusion. lol
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I understand - you LOVE to fantasize about this - but come on!!! Either YOU do something about it, or let it go! No One Cares That's like no one really, really care is you watch gay porn while you post and occasionally get your links screwed up. Everyone just enjoys seeing your hypocrisy exposed. But as long as no one cares, have a fuller description of your jerk off hero in the White House. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CDOC-105hdoc310/html/CDOC-105hdoc310.htm REFERRAL FROM INDEPENDENT COUNSEL KENNETH W. STARR of 11 Sep 1998 Select footnootes: 28. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo at 18-20 31. As Ms. Lewinsky departed, she observed the President "manually stimulating" himself in Ms. Hernreich's office 35. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. 37. The President then put the cigar in his mouth and said to Ms. Lewinsky "It tastes good." 41. On this occasion, the President ejaculated 81. She testified after the encounter concluded with the President masturbating into a bathroom sink
I have to second Jameson on this one - I don't care about Clinton's consensual sexual encounters with Monica back in the 1990s. I barely cared then, and I really don't care now. Having an affair disqualifies a man from the Presidency? Nah.
One of your many faggot friends should inject aids in your faggot ass. Id be ok with that.
Id be ok with that. I get feedback from viewers of LF that your continual faggot talk is a turn off; they don't condone the nasty BS you portray.
WQell I don't care for diseased minds like Jameson. He wouldn't be missed by any but the stupid.
Having an affair disqualifies a man from the Presidency? Nah. I could not possibly care less about what you, Jameson, or others may or may not second or third. And, of course, the whole diversion has not a thing to do with what does, or does not, disqualify a man from the Presidency. The thread, entitled "Weisselberg Flips," contains a thread article which is a riff on a WSJ article, but with unsupported and unsupportable nonsense added to give the appearance of ethereal support to the title claim. In fact, not a scintilla of evidence appears to support the claim that Weisselberg has flipped. I pointed to that lack of substance of the article at #10. Jameson diversion #1 was at #16 when he opimed about why Weisselberg was granted immunity, "Perhaps it has to do with the 1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY." Of course, if the alleged 1,000,000 files, documents, etc., were as usable as criminal evidence as they are at a fish and chip shop for wrapping fish, there would be no need at all to grant anyone immunity. Jameson's claim of pre-existing overwhelming evidence is bass ackwards as justification for a grant of immunity. If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence. At #19, we have Jameson diversion #2. At #32, we have Jameson's continuation of the theme of At #34, we have the Jameson continuation of the gay theme, Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man, who hates being in the closet so much that he takes every opportunity to rant against any thing or any one he perceives as "homosexual" It's a sick pattern in the republican world...... and Mike Pence is typical. I do not really give a shit about Jameson's bullshit diversionary claims about Dip Shit Donnie, his merry band of jerk-offs, and Mike Pence obviously being a bitter closeted gay man. I do not really care if you and others fall for Jameson's bullshit and divert all attention away from the actual topic of the thread, and its utter baselessness. If Jameson wishes to divert and trash the thread with bullshit about Trump and Pence, I will leave a big stinking pile of poo about Clinton and Obama, and Jameson's intent is not to create such a memorial to his heroes. Ahh, the vivid images of Clinton and Lewinsky, once seen, cannot be unseen. It is like unseeing Obama showing off his hardon. I suppose that whether one prefers to discuss the actual thread topic of Weisselberg Flips, or to delve deeply into claims about Dip Shit Donnie, his merry band of jerk-offs, and Mike Pence obviously being a bitter closeted gay man; and Clinton's having engaged in oral-anal sex with an intern, and jerking off in a White House sink, whatever. The thread is no longer about Weisselberg Flips, so why not just have some fun at Jameson's expense? Yes indeed, if he is to drop little stinkers here and there, I feel free to drop Clinton poo bombs to provide the proper balance. Please feel free to continue the thoughtful thread discussion of Weisselberg Flips.
LOL!!! Thanks for the rant Chan! You're one funny guy! Listen, sorry for using Willie's serious article as a vehicle for more of my hilarious bad-mouthing of The king of Shit-Holes, Dip-Shit Donnie. I promise to take all this stuff seriously, soon....or eventually.... "Clinton poo bombs" - pretty funny, but I think you can do better! keep it up! We're all really impressed that you're an attorney.....and we're really in awe of you when you copy and paste a bunch of legalese, I almost always think to myself, "Gee.....Chan must be the smartest lawyer in the country.... I wonder if he gets a woody every time he pastes 4 or 500 words, nicely formatted and including BOLD and italics....." Anyway....... Ok so... "If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence." ............maybe.......the prosecutor has a few hundred thousand pages pertaining to the Dip-Shit Organization, that document criminal activity.... Implicated are the organization's CFO & Vice President, perhaps it would be a good idea to speak to those implicated on the record.....right? Knowing that the CFO could certainly invoke the right that allows witnesses to decline to answer questions where the answers might incriminate them......... The offer of immunity seems like a fairly smart move...... but what do I know? I learned everything I know about law from watching "Better Call Saul" Back to your poo bombs....
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
You're one funny guy! Listen, sorry for using Willie's serious article as a vehicle for more of my hilarious bad-mouthing of The king of Shit-Holes, Dip-Shit Donnie. I promise to take all this stuff seriously, soon....or eventually.... Thank you ever so much for the compliment. I promise to one day take you seriously. It is not that day yet. I am seriously impressed that you find the time to expend blathering about things of which you have no knowledge whatever. In my 20 years on the net, I have never claimed to be a lawyer. You fount of non-knowledge is your apparent observation that I, like most people, can use the google better than you, and that I have more legal knowledge than you. If that showed one was a lawyer, this entire board would be lawyers. Do keep up the effort to show your lack of knowledge. Perhaps I should type sower to make easier for you to keep up. ............maybe.......the prosecutor has a few hundred thousand pages pertaining to the Dip-Shit Organization, that document criminal activity.... Implicated are the organization's CFO & Vice President, And maybe you are just shoveling more shit. What is fact is that there has been no announcement of any indictment based on your slleged few hundred thousand pages of fish wrap. They did not even indict Michael Cohen. While the alleged fish wrap has not been seen, and you have no actual knowledge of anything in it, you are certain in your empty cranium that the alleged hundreds of thousands of pages document criminal activity, and implicated are the organization's CFO and Vice-President. How you know this remains a mystery. That the basis of your assertions is bullshit is clear and knowable. A prosecutor with hundreds of thousands of pages documenting criminal activity has no need to offer immunity to obtain proof. The offer of immunity seems like a fairly smart move...... but what do I know? I learned everything I know about law from watching "Better Call Saul" If you have hundreds of thousands of pages documenting criminal activity, implicating the CFO & Vice President, you may prosecute the CFO & Vice President and let him remain mute or beg for a deal. The dumbest idea on earth is to offer him immunity not knowing what he is going to say. It does sound like you learned your law by watching Better Call Saul. It's all good, man. As a reasonable alternative, you could consider buying a lawbook and reading it. Nah. Stick with Saul. I wonder if you get a woody when posting some dumb ignorance such as, It's a sick pattern in the republican world...... and Mike Pence is typical. Or do you only get a chubby when watching your gay porn? Whatever. I feel your pain when you are faced with Slick Willie's oral-anal sex and jerking off into a sink. But then one can sympathize with his need for windowless hallway sex considering what awaited him in bed. Oh well, it wasn't a wookie. I really do feel your pain. Honestly and sincerely, I feel your pain. And I recognize your finely honed skill at hijacking threads.
Of the two of us, YOU are the only one who even thinks about BC. and it appears that you are focused on his wang... But as Jimmy might say, "It's all good, man, let your freak flag fly!" I don't think of that man, ever. I simply do not care. I never supported him or voted for him. If you or your tribe can find a way to "lock him up" - please do...I won't care eitherway. And I recognize your finely honed skill at hijacking threads. Thanks Chan, your kind words mean the world to me. I certainly enjoy causing most of the purposely ignorant right-wing whack- jobs on this site to melt down...it's easy and fun!! A few of you offer some intelligent banter and I enjoy that too...but not as much! So work on those "poo bomb" jokes and keep thinking of BC's wiener, and the sink, and that woman, Miss Lewinski - and try to have a good evening! ...and remember: Dip-Shit Donnie sold thousands of condos to the russian mobsters in "shell company" all cash deals...... It's called money laundering and there are federal, state, AND international laws forbidding such fuckery......so no pardons will be sufficient campaign finance violations are the least of his crimes.... you're still my 4th favorite lawyer!!!
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
One more thing, my friend..... I don't know about anyone else....but I can only read about 15% of all the crap you copy and paste...maybe less... It's really boring and.....(sorry to say it) not terribly clever or funny. I hope I haven't hurt your feelings, please consider less legal bull shit and more ridiculous right-wing rants about the deep state and the liberal media! that's right! that shit sells!! Rock on brother chan!! Heads-up!!! The golden-shower pee tapes are real!!! Douche-bag Donnie is a weird-ass straight-up pervert!!! (but you're good with that, right??) Tom Arnold has the goods on your president.... fun stuff, right!!! See you at McDonalds for breakfast!!!
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
Trump should make good on his threat and pardon himself. Then we can get on with full-on head-exploding meltdowns and barricades - we might even do a credible job at passing for France for a little while.
#2. To: Willie Green (#0)
Mueller has reportedly been interested in the finances and business activities of the Trump Organization, including a failed attempt to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. And Weisselberg might have some answers.
#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
This is exactly what Trump warned about when this investigation started -- that prosecutors would use it as an excuse to investigate his business dealings and charge him with the smallest infrasction.
#4. To: Willie Green (#0)
November will be funnier for the Normal-American Community that way.
#5. To: Willie Green (#0)
boris
#6. To: sneakypete (#3)
Am I the only one thinking officials in NY need to meet the gallows?
#7. To: misterwhite (#1)
(Edited)
This is exactly what Trump warned about when this investigation started -- that prosecutors would use it as an excuse to investigate his business dealings and charge him with the smallest infrasction.
#8. To: misterwhite (#2)
Mueller has reportedly been interested in the finances and business activities of the Trump Organization...
#9. To: Willie Green, Dreaming of a White Christmas, with President Pence (#0)
#10. To: Willie Green (#0)
Trump Organization finance chief Allen Weisselberg has been granted immunity in exchange for giving prosecutors information for the investigation into Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen and the hush money payments Cohen made to women during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Weisselberg was subpoenaed in the investigation into Cohen, though it hasn’t been confirmed that he has actually appeared before a grand jury, according to the Wall Street Journal. He has met with prosecutors, but the information he’s provided — including whether Trump knew about the payments to the women — is still a question.
#11. To: misterwhite (#1)
This is exactly what Trump warned about when this investigation started -- that prosecutors would use it as an excuse to investigate his business dealings and charge him with the smallest infrasction.
#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)
Shouldn't have been done to Clinton over Whitewater.
#13. To: misterwhite (#12)
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)
Had the Whitewater probe stayed on Whitewater ...
#15. To: misterwhite (#14)
#16. To: nolu chan (#10)
It is unknown why he was granted immunity.
#17. To: Jameson, President Paul Ryan (#16)
(Edited)
Pence knew
#18. To: hondo68 (#17)
That you want Paul Ryan for President?
#19. To: hondo68 (#17)
That you want Paul Ryan for President?
#20. To: Jameson (#16)
It is unknown why he was granted immunity.
How long do you think it will be before we find out??
#21. To: Jameson, hondo68 (#18)
The probability of Paul Ryan being the Speaker of the House, when the inevitable occurs, is remote.
#22. To: nolu chan (#20)
#23. To: Vicomte13 (#22)
If we're going to have a dictator, I'd rather it be DS45
#24. To: Jameson (#23)
The dictator that would result from your plan would be named "Putin"
#25. To: Jameson, ALL (#18)
And let's be honest, it really won't matter who is next in line.
#26. To: Jameson (#19)
on the other hand....
#27. To: nolu chan (#20)
It is unknown why he was granted immunity.
2) Tactically and psychologically confer and embed a presumption of "Guilt" of Trump. For altogether fake reasons. They provide further scenes and acts of this massive, epic Grand Charade
3) A new Mueller/The SES strategy/theater seems to be tossing as much spaghetti and against the wall as possible as red-meat "entertainment" their puppets at MSNBC, CNN, Wapo etal to discuss, knowing full well that NONE of it will stick.
#28. To: nolu chan, Jameson (#20)
Perhaps he was given immunity because you gave good head to horseface. Why "1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY" would cause Mueller to give immunity to Weisselberg is a train of logic only you can follow.
How long do you think it will be before we find out??
#29. To: Vicomte13 (#22)
Trump should end the investigation, pardon everybody (including himself), and use the same backdoor methods to rig the voting machines that the Democrats do, to ensure that his party wins the mid-terms. Then go nuclear on everything, install the entire Republican agenda, use the CIA, FBI and Justice Department (newly reconstituted) to systematically prosecute every prominent Democratic political leader or donor.
#30. To: Vicomte13 (#24)
I think it is in our best interest to have peace with Russia and to cooperate as friends.
#31. To: Liberator (#27)
Preemptive GET OF OF JAIL CARDS" for the guilty
#32. To: Liberator (#25)
you may want to take a listen of the Matt Bracken vid
#33. To: Jameson (#32)
Dip-shit Donnie is up to his ears in greasy illegal shit-deals and he's now just a tool for those to whom he owes.
#34. To: Liberator (#26)
I can't tell if you're pro-homo, anti-homo or "homophobic".
#35. To: Jameson, Liberator (#32)
Dip-shit Donnie is up to his ears in greasy illegal shit-deals and he's now just a tool for those to whom he owes.
That bull-shit is about to catch-up to him and his merry band of jerk-offs.
After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink.
#36. To: Jameson (#34)
(Edited)
Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man
#37. To: Jameson (#34)
#38. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
Gosh. What makes it obvious?
#39. To: nolu chan (#35)
Among the greatest scams in history are the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. That greasy illegal shit runs ocean deep.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Have you considered suicide?
#41. To: Jameson (#38)
(Edited)
#42. To: Jameson (#38)
(Edited)
Personally, I am 100% down with any relationship that is adult in nature and consensual. I have numerous gay friends and their sex lives are none of my business.
#43. To: Jameson (#39)
After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink.
25. After their sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink
#44. To: nolu chan (#43)
#45. To: Jameson (#38)
Personally, I am 100% down with any relationship that is adult in nature and consensual. I have numerous gay friends
#46. To: A K A Stone, Jameson (#45)
One of your many faggot friends should inject aids in your faggot ass.
#47. To: buckeroo (#46)
#48. To: Vicomte13, Jameson, A K A Stone (#44)
I have to second Jameson on this one - I don't care about Clinton's consensual sexual encounters with Monica back in the 1990s. I barely cared then, and I really don't care now.
Ryan would probably love to see Dip-Shit Donnie and his closeted gay companion mikey pence go down....(pun intended!!)
"Dip Shit Donnie ... and his merry band of jerk-offs."
My point was quite easy to understand - for anyone of average intelligence -
#49. To: nolu chan (#48)
(Edited)
I feel free to drop Clinton poo bombs to provide the proper balance.
#50. To: Jameson (#49)
LOL!!! Thanks for the rant Chan!
We're all really impressed that you're an attorney.....and we're really in awe of you when you copy and paste a bunch of legalese, I almost always think to myself, "Gee.....Chan must be the smartest lawyer in the country.... I wonder if he gets a woody every time he pastes 4 or 500 words, nicely formatted and including BOLD and italics....."
Ok so... "If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence."
Knowing that the CFO could certainly invoke the right that allows witnesses to decline to answer questions where the answers might incriminate them.........
Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man, who hates being in the closet so much that he takes every opportunity to rant against any thing or any one he perceives as "homosexual"
#51. To: nolu chan (#50)
Whatever. I feel your pain when you are faced with Slick Willie's oral-anal sex and jerking off into a sink.
#52. To: nolu chan (#50)
It's all good, man.
#53. To: Jameson (#51)
you're still my 4th favorite lawyer!!!
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