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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
Source: Facebook
URL Source: https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/2106665592679359
Published: Aug 23, 2018
Author: Robert Reich
Post Date: 2018-08-24 00:40:00 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 7019
Comments: 48

[23 August 2018]

Robert Reich
11 hrs

ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

Suppose Robert Mueller comes up with overwhelming evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to become President, and that, were it not for Russia’s actions during the election, Trump would not have been elected. In other words, Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution.

Impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate would remove Trump from office. This would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.

The only way to respond to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency. Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority.

The Constitution does not specifically provide for annulment of an unconstitutional presidency. But read as a whole, the Constitution leads to the logical conclusion that annulment is the appropriate remedy for one.

After all, the Supreme Court can declare legislation that doesn’t comport with the Constitution null and void. It would logically follow that the Court could declare all the legislation and executive actions of a presidency unauthorized by the Constitution to be null and void.

The Constitution also gives Congress and the states the power to amend the Constitution, thereby annulling or altering whatever provisions came before. Here, too, it would logically follow that Congress and the states could, through amendment, annul the actions of a presidency they determine to be unconstitutional.

I am not suggesting that constitutional annulment of the Trump presidency is likely. I am only arguing that, in the face of overwhelming evidence that his presidency was never authorized under the Constitution, there are ample grounds for arguing it should and can be annulled.

Your thoughts?

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#8. To: Pinguinite (#1) (Edited)

Is there any body with the authority to remove him [Gorsuch?] from the USSC besides himself?

The Congress via impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-24   8:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-08-24   9:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#9)

But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.

There is no such thing as annulment of a presidency. That is merely Reich's manifestation of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Nobody has ever tried this with a presidency, but attempts were made to annul a ratification of a pending amendment to the Constitution.

The issue is a non-justiciable political question, inappropriate for judicial determination. As a non-justiciable political question, the Court would not take it up for decision, and Justice Gorsuch would not present any problem.

Once an election is officially certified, it is beyond judicial action.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/433/case.html

Coleman v. Miller, 307 U.S. 433 (1939)

3. In accordance with the precedent of the Fourteenth Amendment, the efficacy of ratification of a proposed amendment to the Federal Constitution by a state legislature which had previously rejected the proposal is held a question for the political departments, with the ultimate authority in the Congress in the exercise of its control over the promulgation of the adoption of the amendment. P. 307 U. S. 447.

4. The legislature of Kansas having actually ratified the proposed Child Labor Amendment, this Court should not restrain the state officers from certifying the ratification to the Secretary of State because of an earlier rejection, and thus prevent the question from coming before the political departments. There is found no basis in either Constitution or statute for such judicial action. P. 307 U. S. 450.

5. R.S. § 205; 5 U.S.C. 160, presupposes official notice to the Secretary of State when a state legislature has adopted a resolution of ratification. No warrant is seen for judicial interference with the performance of that duty. P. 307 U. S. 450.

6. The Congress, in controlling the promulgation of the adoption of a constitutional amendment, has the final determination of the question whether, by lapse of time, its proposal of the amendment had lost its vitality before being adopted by the requisite number of legislatures. P. 307 U. S. 451.

7. In determining whether a question falls within the category of political nonjusticiable questions, the appropriateness under our system of government of attributing finality to the action of the political departments, and also the lack of satisfactory criteria for a judicial determination, are dominant considerations. P. 307 U. S. 454.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-24   12:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#6)

What are your thoughts?

Your cunt of a mother should have crushed your skull when your egg hatched.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-08-24   12:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Your cunt of a mother should have crushed your skull when your egg hatched.

Shame on you... That would be abortion...

Willie Green  posted on  2018-08-24   12:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

LOL!!!

It will probably take 3 or 4 FourLoko's to cause you to forget about this week....

Am I right??

http://fourloko.com/

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-08-24   12:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I think the leftists want civil warII. Hopefully they wise up. They are to dumb and evil though. Why should we have to tolerate baby murderers in our society which 100 percent of Democrats are.

They ought to be careful what they wish for.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-08-24   14:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#13)

FourLoko's

Isn't that the same piss that Hillary drinks?


Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-24   14:49:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nolu chan (#10)

Well, I guess the entire government could be annulled. There's certainly precedent for that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-08-24   20:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jameson (#13)

Go drink some green donkey semen freak.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-08-24   21:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

How do you know about donkey things, Pebbles?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-08-24   22:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

When you posted your home videos.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-08-24   22:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

When I was a kid we had Beulah the Mule. No donkeys though. We had a few horses, chickens and geese too.

We had a turtle and named it Pebbles 'cuz it was dumb as a rock. Okay, I made up this last line. The others are true.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-08-24   22:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nolu chan (#0)

I am not suggesting that constitutional annulment of the Trump presidency is likely.

I offered on many threads a way out of this current BS: "Vote for My dead dawg Scruffy."

Did anyone write Scruffy into their ballot? No? Well, now you got what you begged for.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-24   22:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

(1) This sword cuts both ways. Trump should declassify everything about Obama's birth and present the truth (or the "truth", which the US government has always been able to manufacture) - that the man was born in Kenya - and thereby remove two Supreme Court justices through this "nullification",, as well as erasing Obamacare without a trace.

(2) Blood and fire.

Not to mention the treason and other high crimes of the Kennedy Klan,as well as the treason and high crimes of King FDR and his commie cousin-wife.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-08-25   10:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I think the leftists want civil warII.

I am beginning to think that I want it,also.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-08-25   10:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week....

give me your honest opinion.....

Does Dip-Shit Jr. rat out DS45, or does DS45 hang his own son out to dry????

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-08-26   19:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jameson (#24)

My honest opinion is Republicans hold the house. Trump wins reelection. He appoints 3 or 4 Supreme Court Judges.

You keep amusing us with your ultra liberal views. We keep laughing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-08-26   20:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Trump wins reelection. He appoints 3 or 4 Supreme Court Judges.

I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed... If that doesn’t happen, you and I both will see socialism before we die, IMHO.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-26   21:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland (#26)

I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed.

How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-26   21:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#27)

How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?

I’ll only punch Chad if he’s an asshole cop hating, drug loving Paultard.

I’ll uncross my fingers for that.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-26   22:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#27)

How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?

I would use a UGC-6 with a reperf.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-26   23:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jameson, A K A Stone (#24)

So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week....

Jameson posted on 2018-08-26 19:53:07 ET

Well, the week came and went.

Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-01   18:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nolu chan (#0)

But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.

Gosh. Who then would take the reins? Maybe Robert Reich?

But if Trump's Presidency were annulled (as though it didn't happen), then there's nothing to stop Trump from running in 2020 and 2024 with the support of tens of millions of pissed off Americans.

Then annul Robert Reich.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-01   18:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#30)

Well, the week came and went.

Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8?

He must be pretty poor by now too bad he hasn't hocked his computer to pay for his gambling habits. BTA the amusement factor around here would fall off precipitously if he couldn't post. Decisions, decisions...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-02   8:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jameson, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#30)

[nc #30] Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8?

THE SMART MONEY for the week of September 2-8 is on Judge Kavanaugh having his appointment CONFIRMED as ASSOCIATE JUSTICE of the United States Supreme Court.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-02   13:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nolu chan (#33)

THE SMART MONEY for the week of September 2-8 is on Judge Kavanaugh having his appointment CONFIRMED as ASSOCIATE JUSTICE of the United States Supreme Court.

perhaps.....

perhaps not....

I doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week...

It will probably take a week or so longer....

IF the Senate Democrats agree to show up

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-02   14:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#34)

perhaps.....

perhaps not....

Yeah, perhaps it will only pass out of commmittee this week and be confirmed at a shortly later date.

I doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week...

It will probably take a week or so longer....

Your point, if you have one?

IF the Senate Democrats agree to show up

Who gives a shit if the degenerate members of the Resist party agree to show up?

Attendance is mandatory and fleeing from the Senate in violation of the Rules, to evade the Seargeant at Arms of the Senate in order to resist their duty, would be a poor picture to present weeks before the mid-term elections. This would be especially true if they were all found in Cryin' Chuck Schumer's crying closet and snowflake safe space, watching a unanimous vote on CNN.

A majority of 100 senators is 51. A majority of 99 senators is 50. The GOP has 50 without McCain's replacement. If the Resist party degenerates stay home, which 26 Republicans do you predict will vote against the Kavanaugh nomination?

The Senate always presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise. If all the degenerate members of the Resist party stay home, who would request a quorum call?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-02   15:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nolu chan (#35)

The GOP has 50 without McCain's replacement.

Can you count on all 50.................?

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-04   11:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nolu chan (#30)

So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week....

Congrats!! you won that bet....

The wheels of justice sometimes turn slowly..........

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-04   11:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jameson (#34)

doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week...

That is because you are an idiot and have no clue or any insight into anything

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-04   13:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#38) (Edited)

have no clue or any insight into anything

Here is something you have some personal insight into!!

Bubbly sangria causing drunken blackouts hailed as the new Four Loko

https://thetakeout.com/bubbly-sangria-causing-drunken-blackouts-hailed-as-the- 1826075020

Your breakfasts are getting better and better!!!

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-04   13:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jameson (#39)

Bubbly sangria causing drunken blackouts hailed as the new Four Loko

The secret of your success?


Hondo68  posted on  2018-09-04   14:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: hondo68 (#40)

The secret of your success?

heh heh - no....

I stick with the Irish whiskey !!

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-04   14:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jameson (#41)

The conservaTive

voTe

AppoinTmenT

Was Today

Lameson

Loser liberals

Winning
boris

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2018-09-04   17:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jameson (#39)

 

Trump to Endorse Chabad Movement

https://www.haaretz.com/us- news/.premium-trump-to-host-event-endorsing-chabad-movement-1.5955670

 

Zeph 1:4-6

4 "I will stretch out my hand against Judah
and against all who live in Jerusalem.
I will cut off from this place every remnant of Baal,
the names of the pagan and the idolatrous priests—
5 those who bow down on the roofs
to worship the starry host,
those who bow down and swear by the Lord
and who also swear by Molech,
6 those who turn back from following the Lord
NIV

VxH  posted on  2018-09-05   14:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jameson (#41)

I stick with the Irish whiskey !!

Have you read 200 Years Together?

https://wikispooks.com /wiki/200_Years_Together

"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."
What role did Alcohol play?

VxH  posted on  2018-09-05   14:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: nolu chan (#0)

Robert Reich: The dwarf from Endsville. This small man is about as important as a pimple on a private's ass; much like the senile Woodward who wrote a book about a place he hasn't been invited into for many a decade.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-09-05   15:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: VxH (#44)

Have you read 200 Years Together?

I have not. I'm currently reading The Ultimate Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy by Douglas Adams

What role did Alcohol play?

Good question.....I really don't have an answer for you.

However, I might suggest you watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc

Two words you must remember in the months to come:

Pence knew

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-05   16:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: nolu chan (#33)

THE SMART MONEY for the week of September 2-8 is on Judge Kavanaugh having his appointment CONFIRMED as ASSOCIATE JUSTICE of the United States Supreme Court.

I bet Kavanaugh wishes he could go jump off a cliff right now after having to listen to total idiots asking him idiotic questions for the last 2 days.

I also wonder who ponied up the money to pay for the shenanigans at the beginning of this hearing? I heard over 70 people were arrested for that little faux dog and pony show they put on, tards just never learn...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-09-06   7:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jameson (#37)

We are still waiting. Retard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-02-12   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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