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Title: ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
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Published: Aug 23, 2018
Author: Robert Reich
Post Date: 2018-08-24 00:40:00 by nolu chan
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[23 August 2018] Robert Reich ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY Suppose Robert Mueller comes up with overwhelming evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to become President, and that, were it not for Russia’s actions during the election, Trump would not have been elected. In other words, Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution. Impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate would remove Trump from office. This would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.” But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency. The only way to respond to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency. Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority. The Constitution does not specifically provide for annulment of an unconstitutional presidency. But read as a whole, the Constitution leads to the logical conclusion that annulment is the appropriate remedy for one. After all, the Supreme Court can declare legislation that doesn’t comport with the Constitution null and void. It would logically follow that the Court could declare all the legislation and executive actions of a presidency unauthorized by the Constitution to be null and void. The Constitution also gives Congress and the states the power to amend the Constitution, thereby annulling or altering whatever provisions came before. Here, too, it would logically follow that Congress and the states could, through amendment, annul the actions of a presidency they determine to be unconstitutional. I am not suggesting that constitutional annulment of the Trump presidency is likely. I am only arguing that, in the face of overwhelming evidence that his presidency was never authorized under the Constitution, there are ample grounds for arguing it should and can be annulled. Your thoughts? - - - - - - - - - - Poster comment: Trump Derangement Syndrome
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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)
The USSC would doubtless come into play in this scenario, which is problematic as one of the members is a Trump appointee. Is there any body with the authority to remove him from the USSC besides himself?
(1) This sword cuts both ways. Trump should declassify everything about Obama's birth and present the truth (or the "truth", which the US government has always been able to manufacture) - that the man was born in Kenya - and thereby remove two Supreme Court justices through this "nullification",, as well as erasing Obamacare without a trace. (2) Blood and fire.
I think the leftists want civil warII. Hopefully they wise up. They are to dumb and evil though. Why should we have to tolerate baby murderers in our society which 100 percent of Democrats are.
A constitutional amendment would do it. Not going to happen, the D&R party is a suicide pact, and Trump is the emcee.
LOL, good one!
Right!!! I find it fascinating that most of the DSD cultists have given up defending his actions and are shifting to a defensive posture..... What are your thoughts?
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
No, the only recourse is impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate. The only SCOTUS involvement would entail the Chief Justice sitting in the Senate for the trial.
The Congress via impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate.
But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.
There is no such thing as annulment of a presidency. That is merely Reich's manifestation of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nobody has ever tried this with a presidency, but attempts were made to annul a ratification of a pending amendment to the Constitution. The issue is a non-justiciable political question, inappropriate for judicial determination. As a non-justiciable political question, the Court would not take it up for decision, and Justice Gorsuch would not present any problem. Once an election is officially certified, it is beyond judicial action. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/433/case.html Coleman v. Miller, 307 U.S. 433 (1939) 4. The legislature of Kansas having actually ratified the proposed Child Labor Amendment, this Court should not restrain the state officers from certifying the ratification to the Secretary of State because of an earlier rejection, and thus prevent the question from coming before the political departments. There is found no basis in either Constitution or statute for such judicial action. P. 307 U. S. 450. 5. R.S. § 205; 5 U.S.C. 160, presupposes official notice to the Secretary of State when a state legislature has adopted a resolution of ratification. No warrant is seen for judicial interference with the performance of that duty. P. 307 U. S. 450. 6. The Congress, in controlling the promulgation of the adoption of a constitutional amendment, has the final determination of the question whether, by lapse of time, its proposal of the amendment had lost its vitality before being adopted by the requisite number of legislatures. P. 307 U. S. 451. 7. In determining whether a question falls within the category of political nonjusticiable questions, the appropriateness under our system of government of attributing finality to the action of the political departments, and also the lack of satisfactory criteria for a judicial determination, are dominant considerations. P. 307 U. S. 454.
Your cunt of a mother should have crushed your skull when your egg hatched.
Shame on you... That would be abortion...
LOL!!! It will probably take 3 or 4 FourLoko's to cause you to forget about this week.... Am I right?? http://fourloko.com/
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
They ought to be careful what they wish for.
Isn't that the same piss that Hillary drinks? Well, I guess the entire government could be annulled. There's certainly precedent for that.
Go drink some green donkey semen freak.
How do you know about donkey things, Pebbles?
When you posted your home videos.
When I was a kid we had Beulah the Mule. No donkeys though. We had a few horses, chickens and geese too. We had a turtle and named it Pebbles 'cuz it was dumb as a rock. Okay, I made up this last line. The others are true.
I offered on many threads a way out of this current BS: "Vote for My dead dawg Scruffy." Did anyone write Scruffy into their ballot? No? Well, now you got what you begged for.
(2) Blood and fire. Not to mention the treason and other high crimes of the Kennedy Klan,as well as the treason and high crimes of King FDR and his commie cousin-wife.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I am beginning to think that I want it,also.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week.... give me your honest opinion..... Does Dip-Shit Jr. rat out DS45, or does DS45 hang his own son out to dry????
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
My honest opinion is Republicans hold the house. Trump wins reelection. He appoints 3 or 4 Supreme Court Judges. You keep amusing us with your ultra liberal views. We keep laughing.
I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed... If that doesn’t happen, you and I both will see socialism before we die, IMHO.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?
I’ll only punch Chad if he’s an asshole cop hating, drug loving Paultard. I’ll uncross my fingers for that.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I would use a UGC-6 with a reperf.
Jameson posted on 2018-08-26 19:53:07 ET Well, the week came and went. Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8?
Gosh. Who then would take the reins? Maybe Robert Reich? But if Trump's Presidency were annulled (as though it didn't happen), then there's nothing to stop Trump from running in 2020 and 2024 with the support of tens of millions of pissed off Americans. Then annul Robert Reich.
Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8? He must be pretty poor by now too bad he hasn't hocked his computer to pay for his gambling habits. BTA the amusement factor around here would fall off precipitously if he couldn't post. Decisions, decisions...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
THE SMART MONEY for the week of September 2-8 is on Judge Kavanaugh having his appointment CONFIRMED as ASSOCIATE JUSTICE of the United States Supreme Court.
perhaps..... perhaps not.... I doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week... It will probably take a week or so longer.... IF the Senate Democrats agree to show up
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
perhaps not.... Yeah, perhaps it will only pass out of commmittee this week and be confirmed at a shortly later date. It will probably take a week or so longer.... Your point, if you have one? Who gives a shit if the degenerate members of the Resist party agree to show up? Attendance is mandatory and fleeing from the Senate in violation of the Rules, to evade the Seargeant at Arms of the Senate in order to resist their duty, would be a poor picture to present weeks before the mid-term elections. This would be especially true if they were all found in Cryin' Chuck Schumer's crying closet and snowflake safe space, watching a unanimous vote on CNN. A majority of 100 senators is 51. A majority of 99 senators is 50. The GOP has 50 without McCain's replacement. If the Resist party degenerates stay home, which 26 Republicans do you predict will vote against the Kavanaugh nomination? The Senate always presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise. If all the degenerate members of the Resist party stay home, who would request a quorum call?
Can you count on all 50.................?
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
Congrats!! you won that bet.... The wheels of justice sometimes turn slowly..........
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
That is because you are an idiot and have no clue or any insight into anything
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Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
The secret of your success?
heh heh - no.... I stick with the Irish whiskey !!
Two words you must remember in the months to come: Pence knew
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#2. To: nolu chan (#0)
Your thoughts?
#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
#4. To: Pinguinite, express check out (#1)
Is there any body with the authority to remove him [Gorsuch] from the USSC besides himself?
#5. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, VxH (#3)
to [too] dumb
#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)
I think the leftists want civil warII.
#7. To: Pinguinite (#1)
The USSC would doubtless come into play in this scenario, which is problematic as one of the members is a Trump appointee.
#8. To: Pinguinite (#1)
(Edited)
Is there any body with the authority to remove him [Gorsuch?] from the USSC besides himself?
#9. To: nolu chan (#8)
#10. To: Pinguinite (#9)
But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.
3. In accordance with the precedent of the Fourteenth Amendment, the efficacy of ratification of a proposed amendment to the Federal Constitution by a state legislature which had previously rejected the proposal is held a question for the political departments, with the ultimate authority in the Congress in the exercise of its control over the promulgation of the adoption of the amendment. P. 307 U. S. 447.
#11. To: Jameson (#6)
What are your thoughts?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)
Your cunt of a mother should have crushed your skull when your egg hatched.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)
#14. To: A K A Stone (#3)
I think the leftists want civil warII. Hopefully they wise up. They are to dumb and evil though. Why should we have to tolerate baby murderers in our society which 100 percent of Democrats are.
#15. To: Jameson (#13)
FourLoko's
#16. To: nolu chan (#10)
#17. To: Jameson (#13)
#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)
#21. To: nolu chan (#0)
I am not suggesting that constitutional annulment of the Trump presidency is likely.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
(1) This sword cuts both ways. Trump should declassify everything about Obama's birth and present the truth (or the "truth", which the US government has always been able to manufacture) - that the man was born in Kenya - and thereby remove two Supreme Court justices through this "nullification",, as well as erasing Obamacare without a trace.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#3)
I think the leftists want civil warII.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#25. To: Jameson (#24)
#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)
Trump wins reelection. He appoints 3 or 4 Supreme Court Judges.
#27. To: GrandIsland (#26)
I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed.
#28. To: buckeroo (#27)
How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?
#29. To: buckeroo (#27)
How the HELL will you ever punch a chad?
#30. To: Jameson, A K A Stone (#24)
So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week....
#31. To: nolu chan (#0)
But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.
#32. To: nolu chan (#30)
Well, the week came and went.
#33. To: Jameson, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#30)
[nc #30] Where is the smart money for the week of September 2-8?
#34. To: nolu chan (#33)
THE SMART MONEY for the week of September 2-8 is on Judge Kavanaugh having his appointment CONFIRMED as ASSOCIATE JUSTICE of the United States Supreme Court.
#35. To: Jameson (#34)
perhaps.....
I doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week...
IF the Senate Democrats agree to show up
#36. To: nolu chan (#35)
The GOP has 50 without McCain's replacement.
#37. To: nolu chan (#30)
So, the smart money is on Dip-Shit JR. being indicted this week....
#38. To: Jameson (#34)
doubt that Ducey will have a McCain replacement in place this week...
#39. To: A K A Stone (#38)
(Edited)
have no clue or any insight into anything
#40. To: Jameson (#39)
Bubbly sangria causing drunken blackouts hailed as the new Four Loko
#41. To: hondo68 (#40)
The secret of your success?
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