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Title: ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
Source: Facebook
URL Source: https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/2106665592679359
Published: Aug 23, 2018
Author: Robert Reich
Post Date: 2018-08-24 00:40:00 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 8554
Comments: 48

[23 August 2018]

Robert Reich
11 hrs

ANNULMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

Suppose Robert Mueller comes up with overwhelming evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to become President, and that, were it not for Russia’s actions during the election, Trump would not have been elected. In other words, Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution.

Impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate would remove Trump from office. This would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place his vice president, White House staff and Cabinet, as well as all the executive orders he issued and all the legislation he signed, and the official record of his presidency.

The only way to respond to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it. Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and would eliminate the official record of the presidency. Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority.

The Constitution does not specifically provide for annulment of an unconstitutional presidency. But read as a whole, the Constitution leads to the logical conclusion that annulment is the appropriate remedy for one.

After all, the Supreme Court can declare legislation that doesn’t comport with the Constitution null and void. It would logically follow that the Court could declare all the legislation and executive actions of a presidency unauthorized by the Constitution to be null and void.

The Constitution also gives Congress and the states the power to amend the Constitution, thereby annulling or altering whatever provisions came before. Here, too, it would logically follow that Congress and the states could, through amendment, annul the actions of a presidency they determine to be unconstitutional.

I am not suggesting that constitutional annulment of the Trump presidency is likely. I am only arguing that, in the face of overwhelming evidence that his presidency was never authorized under the Constitution, there are ample grounds for arguing it should and can be annulled.

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

The USSC would doubtless come into play in this scenario, which is problematic as one of the members is a Trump appointee.

Is there any body with the authority to remove him from the USSC besides himself?

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#8. To: Pinguinite (#1) (Edited)

Is there any body with the authority to remove him [Gorsuch?] from the USSC besides himself?

The Congress via impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-24   8:16:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-08-24   9:50:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#9)

But impeachment is not annulment. And the question was how to go about an annulment. Gorsuch has already opined on cases, and annulment would mean back tracking on those decisions in which his vote changed the outcome. Impeachment would not do that.

There is no such thing as annulment of a presidency. That is merely Reich's manifestation of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Nobody has ever tried this with a presidency, but attempts were made to annul a ratification of a pending amendment to the Constitution.

The issue is a non-justiciable political question, inappropriate for judicial determination. As a non-justiciable political question, the Court would not take it up for decision, and Justice Gorsuch would not present any problem.

Once an election is officially certified, it is beyond judicial action.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/433/case.html

Coleman v. Miller, 307 U.S. 433 (1939)

3. In accordance with the precedent of the Fourteenth Amendment, the efficacy of ratification of a proposed amendment to the Federal Constitution by a state legislature which had previously rejected the proposal is held a question for the political departments, with the ultimate authority in the Congress in the exercise of its control over the promulgation of the adoption of the amendment. P. 307 U. S. 447.

4. The legislature of Kansas having actually ratified the proposed Child Labor Amendment, this Court should not restrain the state officers from certifying the ratification to the Secretary of State because of an earlier rejection, and thus prevent the question from coming before the political departments. There is found no basis in either Constitution or statute for such judicial action. P. 307 U. S. 450.

5. R.S. § 205; 5 U.S.C. 160, presupposes official notice to the Secretary of State when a state legislature has adopted a resolution of ratification. No warrant is seen for judicial interference with the performance of that duty. P. 307 U. S. 450.

6. The Congress, in controlling the promulgation of the adoption of a constitutional amendment, has the final determination of the question whether, by lapse of time, its proposal of the amendment had lost its vitality before being adopted by the requisite number of legislatures. P. 307 U. S. 451.

7. In determining whether a question falls within the category of political nonjusticiable questions, the appropriateness under our system of government of attributing finality to the action of the political departments, and also the lack of satisfactory criteria for a judicial determination, are dominant considerations. P. 307 U. S. 454.

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#16. To: nolu chan (#10)

Well, I guess the entire government could be annulled. There's certainly precedent for that.

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