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Title: 87-year-old Great-Grandmother Tasered in Her Breast by Police While Cutting Dandelions with a Knife
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/g ... asered-police-picking-flowers/
Published: Aug 14, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-08-14 12:58:44 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 313
Comments: 28


Chatsworth, GA — A family is outraged and a great-grandmother recovering after she was tasered in her breast for failing to understand police when they told her to drop a knife she was using to reportedly cut flowers.

According to police, they received a call from a Boys and Girls club employee noting that Martha Al-Bishara, 87, was walking a trail with a knife. The caller noted that Al-Bishara was not threatening anyone and appeared to be “walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something.” She also had a bag.

According to her family Al-Bishara’s taser attack was captured on body camera footage and they were able to watch it. However, citing pending charges against the great-grandmother, police are not releasing it publicly.

The family told police that Al-Bishara was simply on the property to cut dandelions with a kitchen knife—a story backed up by the transcripts of the 911 call. The bag in her hand, the description from the 911 call, and the fact that the woman never threatened anyone should’ve given officers this impression. Instead, however, a gun and a taser were pointed at her.

Being that Al-Bishara speaks Arabic, she likely did not understand the officers when they were telling her to put down the knife.

According to the family, the video shows Chatsworth Police Chief Josh Etheridge pointing a gun at Al-Bishara before another officer deploys the taser striking the great-grandmother in her left breast and her stomach.

She then falls over in agony and begins sobbing as the officers move in to handcuff her.

Naturally, police are standing by their decision to taser the non-threatening great-grandmother and noted that even though she never moved toward anyone with the knife that she still presented a threat.

I completely understand and if I hadn’t been there and it would come across my desk, that is the first thing I would ask as well,” Etheridge said. “Why did we Tase an 87-year-old woman? I guess in that circumstance, I am glad I was there and saw it firsthand and understand why it occurred. An 87-year-old woman with a knife still has the ability to hurt an officer.”

“The question’s always going to be why did he (the officer) not retreat,” Etheridge said. “The thought behind that would be if the officer had retreated, with her being in an elevated position, he could have easily fell down,” Etheridge said, “at which time she could have been progressing on top of him and deadly force could have been used at that point in time. And that was the whole goal, to try to avoid using any type of force, but if we have to use force, use the minimum force.”

Family members disagree and said the officers made no attempt to be kind or show bravery.

“If they would have approached her with an open hand rather than with their guns drawn, she would have handed it (the knife) to them right away,” said grandson Timothy Douhne. “My grandmother is the most kind, generous-hearted woman.”

“You don’t Tase an 87-year-old woman,” said great-nephew Solomon Douhne, a former Dalton Police Department officer. “She was not a threat. If anything, she was confused and didn’t know what was going on. It was a ridiculous turn of events. If three police officers couldn’t handle an 87-year-old woman, you might want to reconsider hanging up your badge.”

The fact that she still hasn’t been charged with a crime speaks to unnecessarily violent nature of the stop. Walking with a knife is not a crime, especially while holding a bag and collecting dandelions. Sadly, however, the great-grandmother was traumatized by the incident.

“She is OK,” great-granddaughter Martha Douhne said. “She is still repeating the incident over in her mind and telling us she didn’t mean for this to happen and apologizing that she didn’t want to bring this on us. She is having trouble sleeping and is stressed.”


Poster Comment:

“Why did we Tase an 87-year-old woman? I guess in that circumstance, I am glad I was there and saw it firsthand and understand why it occurred. An 87-year-old woman with a knife still has the ability to hurt an officer.”

"Waaah!! I feared for my life!" Fucking cowards!

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

:... was simply on the property to cut dandelions with a kitchen knife"

To cut dandelions with a kitchen knife??? Oh, yeah. Those are tough boogers.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

"Being that Al-Bishara speaks Arabic …"

Being that Al-Bishara speaks Arabic does not speak English, the language of the country in which she resides.

Fixed it.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

she likely did not understand the officers when they were telling her to put down the knife.

Well, if I were in some Arab country holding a knife and I had a gun and a taser pointed at me by uniformed police, and they were yelling at me in Arabic and pointing at the knife, I think I would know what they wanted me to do.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: (#0)

RACISM TEST:

Is it ok to taser an 87 year old woman cutting flowers with a knife?

Does your answer change if the 87 year old women is an Arab?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-08-14   13:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

“If they would have approached her with an open hand rather than with their guns drawn, she would have ...

… detonated her suicide vest. Nah. Just kidding. She would have stabbed him.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

it ok to taser an 87 year old woman cutting flowers with a knife?

She wasn't cutting flowers at the time. She was holding the knife and refused to drop it. So, yes.

"Does your answer change if the 87 year old women is an Arab?"

No. Actually, if she's Arab she can be tasered even if she doesn't have a knife. She could be concealing a suicide vest.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

Walking with a knife is not a crime,

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   13:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite, much dumber than an 87 yo Arab (#1)

Oh, yeah. Those are tough boogers.

They are if you're going for the roots and greens. A knife makes good sense if you're probing to get the roots.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-14   13:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

" They are if you're going for the roots and greens. A knife makes good sense if you're probing to get the roots. "

That is right. When I was a kid, my grandmother would go out and harvest such things, besides the dandelions, she would also harvest greens called Polk ( sp ? ). She would cook that stuff, add it to cooked spinach, mustard greens, etc. She would also add it to salads, make tea, etc. She would wear a sun bonnet, and a big apron, and always carried a steak knife with serrated blade. She would harvest quite a bit in the morning, and hold up her apron and put her harvest in that.

Cops back then had common sense, and understood such things. Unlike the metrosexual wimps today that have no common sense.

The old lady in this story is lucky they did not dispense two to the chest & one to the head !

The cop that tazered her should be demoted to washing cars.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Stoner  posted on  2018-08-14   14:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner, hondo68 (#9)

That is right. When I was a kid, my grandmother would go out and harvest such things, besides the dandelions, she would also harvest greens called Polk ( sp ? ). She would cook that stuff, add it to cooked spinach, mustard greens, etc.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Deckard  posted on  2018-08-14   16:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#0)

There is always more to the story. Grandma actually seems to be doing well from her mug shot. Tough Lady.

When all said in done I think there will be a retraction of the story but who cares because it did what it was suppose to do which is push wedge between the police and the people.

Just my opinion but we shall see.

Justified  posted on  2018-08-14   17:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#8)

A knife makes good sense if you're probing to get the roots.

No, a weeder makes good sense if you're probing to get the roots.

Let me guess ... she uses a sword to cut down apples?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-08-14   18:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#0)

According to police, they received a call from a Boys and Girls club employee noting that Martha Al-Bishara, 87, was walking a trail with a knife.

Walking a trail, you say.

The family told police that Al-Bishara was simply on the property to cut dandelions with a kitchen knife

That Matt Agorist is an artist with words in the same way that Dicky Dunn was. Was the property her front yard, someone else's yard, or some public property?

Being that Al-Bishara speaks Arabic, she likely did not understand the officers when they were telling her to put down the knife.

When you are standing with a knife (or other weapon) in your hand, and a police officer is standing with a gun in his hand, and he has it pointed at you, that is the international language telling you to put the knife (or other weapon) down.

Now the question is did the officer with the TASER dart hit the areola for 25 points, or was it a double bullseye worth 50 points.

https://myfox28columbus.com/news/nation-world/police-chief-defends-taser-use-on-woman-87-holding-knife-08-14-2018

CHATSWORTH, Ga. (AP) — A Georgia police chief said an officer was justified in using a Taser to stun an 87-year-old woman after she didn't obey commands to drop a knife in her hand.

Martha Al-Bishara was charged with criminal trespass and obstructing an officer Friday, when police held her at gunpoint before bringing her to the ground with a jolt from the electrified prongs of a stun gun.

[...]

"An 87-year-old woman with a knife still has the ability to hurt an officer," Chatsworth Police Chief Josh Etheridge told the Daily Citizen-News of Dalton.

"There was no anger, there was no malice in this," Etheridge said. "In my opinion, it was the lowest use of force we could have used to simply stop that threat at the time."

Etheridge responded along with two other officers Friday after an employee of a local Boys and Girls Club called 911 to report a woman with a knife was walking outside and would not leave.

"She's old so she can't get around too well, but," the employee said on the 911 recording. "Looks like she's walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something. There's a bag, too."

When Al-Bishara didn't follow commands to drop her knife, Etheridge said, he tried to communicate with her by taking his own pocket knife and throwing it on the ground.

But Al-Bishara's relatives said the officers should have shown more patience.

[snip]

However did Matt Agorist ever miss that criminal trespass charge?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-14   20:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#0)

A sand potato with a knife... and she won’t drop it when asked? These smelly fucking 3rd world shit bags best learn ENGLISH before moving here. Our LE doesn’t speak Syrian.

She should thank her lucky camel she wasn’t shot. They used the taser for what it was designed for.

Take your anti cop shit elsewhere, drug loving paultard.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-14   20:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Justified (#11)

When all said in done I think there will be a retraction of the story but who cares because it did what it was suppose to do which is push wedge between the police and the people.

That’s Dicktards goal... push the wedge between the police and his LF sheeple following.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-14   20:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#0)

I recognize that this post is undeserving on a publick server. However, we have to have phun:

Too much phun!

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-14   22:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#6)

No. Actually, if she's Arab she can be tasered even if she doesn't have a knife. She could be concealing a suicide vest.

You've just convinced me that you're retarded.

And funny, not in a ha-ha way.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-08-14   23:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified, PsychoIsland (#11)

...it did what it was suppose to do which is push wedge between the police and the people.

Cops and our "benevolent" rulers are doing a pretty good job on their own - the article merely points out one example.

From Boston to Ferguson to Charlottesville: The Evolution of a Police State Lockdown

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Deckard  posted on  2018-08-15   6:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#18)

Cops and our "benevolent" rulers are doing a pretty good job on their own -

Only for those that drink the Black Lies Matters kool-Aid, Paultard.

Law enforcement, in general, does an excellent job. Even ICE. It’s been a LIBTARDED AGENDA to paint them with a wide brush, otherwise, by the LEFT, starting with you drug loving Paultards.

Fail to drop a knife, when told to drop a knife, REGARDLESS IF YOU UNDERSTAND OUR LANGUAGE... will cause you to ride the LIGHTENING (be tasered for you dumb shits), or maybe even get shot.

Spend your paultard energy trying to convince smelly immigrants TO LEARN OUR LANGUAGE BEFORE THEY ARRIVE.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-15   7:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#19)

Law enforcement, in general, does an excellent job.

You betcha psycho:

FBI: Sheriff was bribed to shelter drug dealer for 15 years

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Deckard  posted on  2018-08-15   7:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deckard (#18)

..it did what it was suppose to do which is push wedge between the police and the people.

Cops and our "benevolent" rulers are doing a pretty good job on their own - the article merely points out one example.

How can they when the MSM wants SJW crap to be the theme everyday until there is no policing force and criminals rule the street.

Ferguson was a criminal who got what he deserved. Only morons believe any other story than that.

There has to be police and they have to have the ability to do their job of enforcing laws. If you do not like the god damn laws then change them leave the police out of it. You and your kind are idiots for fighting the spear head instead of the person behind the spear. For the slow that is politicians local, state and federal.

Justified  posted on  2018-08-15   14:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#20)

800,000 sworn officers in the Republic... your piddly little yella biased stories doesn’t account for even 1%.

Shut your drug loving pud puller

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-15   21:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Justified (#21) (Edited)

There has to be police and they have to have the ability to do their job of enforcing laws. If you do not like the god damn laws then change them

I’ve told that cop hating, criminal loving paultard that, hundreds of times. He’s a fucking ANARCHIST with a pro drug agenda. He will not speak towards common sense. He has an AGENDA to propagate to his sheeple forum followers.

He doesn't give a fuck about right, wrong or reality.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-15   21:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#22)

Shut your drug loving pud puller

How do you know that Deckard has a, "drug loving pud puller?" BTW, what is it?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-15   21:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Of course, a fucking liar [GrandIsland} doesn't reply. Why? Because he is a fuckin' liar.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-15   22:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#25) (Edited)

I didn’t reply because you asked a stupid question, dipshit... you know what a pud puller is. You have one around your big fat maw... called your lips. AND, I wasn’t talking to you. So un- trigger yourself, snowflake

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-15   22:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland, (#26)

You initiated a STUPID remarck, dumb fuck.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-08-15   22:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland, lips of a fag, Fred Mertz, Deckard, buckeroo (#26)

pud puller is. You have one around your big fat maw... called your lips

Too much information on GI's Fire Island life style choice! For the canaries, every topic ends up with advocacy to convert to their LEO gayblade cult.

Back to dandelions...

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-15   23:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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