In the two years since Senator Bernie Sanders’s campaign for president, the image of capitalism among young Americans has taken a dramatic hit, a new poll has indicated. Less than half, 45 percent, of Americans aged between 18 and 29 have a positive view of capitalism, according to a Gallup poll released Monday.
When Sanders, a self-identified socialist, challenged Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination for president two years ago, the figure stood at 57 percent, up 1 percent from 2012 but down 11 from 2010. For the first time, more young Americans now have a positive view of socialism than they do capitalism, even as support for socialism among the group has remained steady at 51 percent.
The poll was taken as the mainstream Democratic Party encounters an increasing progressive movement that has celebrated socialism and heavily criticized aspects of capitalism. It was Sanders, an independent senator, who popularized many of the essential tenants of socialism during his insurgent campaign for president. His talking points, notably his slamming of the proportion of wealth owned by richest 1 percent of Americans, and his policy ideas, including advocating for a Medicare-for-all program, particularly resonated among young people.
Although Clinton ultimately triumphed in the 2016 primaries, Sanders won the youth vote over the former secretary of state by wide margins. Indeed, more young people voted for Sanders than Clinton and now-President Donald Trump combined.
It is not just young people who are increasingly rejecting capitalism, however. The Gallup poll also indicated that just 47 percent of Democrats, or those who lean Democrat, have a positive view of capitalism, compared to 57 percent who look favorably upon socialism.
The poll was based on interviews with 1,505 adults and conducted between July 30 and August 5 with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
Sanders’s Revolution Continues
Sanders may have been defeated but his ideas have increasingly been embraced by the Democratic mainstream. Still, his movement, continued both by himself and the progressive group Our Revolution, has often come into direct conflict with establishment Democrats during primary elections for the 2018 midterms.
The most famous product of Sanders’s “revolution” to date has been Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America who shocked Democratic politics in June when defeating long-time Congressman from New York and potential next House speaker Joe Crowley.
Her victory sparked an immediate conflict with current House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, whom the 28-year-old Ocasio-Cortez refused to say if she would back as speaker should Democrats regain control of the House. Ocasio-Cortez has also joined Sanders in endorsing and campaigning for progressive candidates. However, despite their own popularity and the growing rejection of capitalism among young Americans and Democrats, their record in persuading voters to back similarly minded candidates has so far been decidedly mixed.
And, while the views among certain demographics have shifted notably, overall a majority of Americans retain a positive view of capitalism (56 percent) with only a minority (37 percent) continuing to view socialism favorably.
In other words, capitalism is "rejected" by parasitic yoots that STILL live with Mommy....who are too lazy to work for a living.
Yep.
Wait till they can not afford their games or phones or tv's. Cut them off porn and watch them lose it!
When inflation hits and everything is so expensive little kiddies will freak out. Then when the rest of the world gets upset that we dumped the value of USD and they are left holding the bag they will send their war ships to recover their losses and those snowflakes will be forced to fight or die. They will have some growing up too do!!
Well of course it is to the tune of about 60 % don’t like capitalism and like suxialism, But by the time they get to our age groups that percentage drops off to about 25%, which shows what some of us have known for a long time you get wiser as you get older.
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[I]t is to the tune of about 60 % don’t like capitalism and like suxialism, But by the time they get to our age groups that percentage drops off to about 25%...
... which shows what some of us have known for a long time you get wiser as you get older.
Yes...and yet NO objective reporting [a service YOU just performed] to go along with this propaganda.
So THIS is what we must expect from now on in: The MSM-Dem Cartel stirring the s*** and trying to create CW2.
What a Moochelle-Azz sized Cluster**** 0bama, the Clintons AND Dubya left us with.
The New World Order elites are not going away quietly, are they?
OR...you'll pay them with...a cup of coffee. Socialists should be ALL FOR that, right?
Btw Hank, I made a GREAT home made pizza the other night.
Cheated a bit, but it's the first one I've made in over 20 years. Thanks for the motivation.
Fresh tomatoes from the garden. Simmered it for a few hours. (Needed a pinch of sugar. Fresh cheeses. Fresh basil. Fresh tyme. Bought the pizza dough at the supermarket, let it rise for 24 hours. Didn't roll out the dough, instead kneaded it toward the edges of the pizza pan (No, I didn't use a stone).
Revved up the pre-heated convection oven to the max (500+ degrees)...and baby-sat it for about 12 minutes (yeah, far cry from your 900 degree puppy, and 90 seconds flash.)
The verdict was an "A" rated pizza. Managed a nice char on the crust, cheese and sauce. Nothing like a fresh home-made pizza my friend!
Wait till they can not afford their games or phones or tv's. Cut them off porn and watch them lose it!
They can't imagine it gone! Mommy pays for internet and phone bills in any case, doesn't she?
They can't ever imagine Mommy tossing out their lazy cabooses out on the street either.
These soft, effette socialist-hypocrites need desperately to be cut off from ALL capitalism's fruits! The collective cacophony of Schadenfreude snickers from the rest of us would be deafening.
When inflation hits and everything is so expensive little kiddies will freak out. Then when the rest of the world gets upset that we dumped the value of USD and they are left holding the bag they will send their war ships to recover their losses and those snowflakes will be forced to fight or die. They will have some growing up too do!!
That's what will happen...
I feel and fear for our hard-working kids and grand-kids. It's not their fault that lazy and dirty-hippy Baby-Boomers messed up their world. And yes -- BABY-BOOMERS messed it up. All Lefty-Baby-Boomers went into politics and/or found their do-nothing pencil-pushing bureaucratic jobs with the Big Nanny State.
Btw Hank, I made a GREAT home made pizza the other night.
Cheated a bit, but it's the first one I've made in over 20 years. Thanks for the motivation.
Fresh tomatoes from the garden. Simmered it for a few hours. (Needed a pinch of sugar. Fresh cheeses. Fresh basil. Fresh tyme. Bought the pizza dough at the supermarket, let it rise for 24 hours. Didn't roll out the dough, instead kneaded it toward the edges of the pizza pan (No, I didn't use a stone).
Revved up the pre-heated convection oven to the max (500+ degrees)...and baby-sat it for about 12 minutes (yeah, far cry from your 900 degree puppy, and 90 seconds flash.)
The verdict was an "A" rated pizza. Managed a nice char on the crust, cheese and sauce. Nothing like a fresh home-made pizza my friend!
Well, there ya go - hurray and congrats!
Coincidentally, I knocked out a Margherita Napolitana + Pepperoni (so not a real Margherita) tonight, using some really old dough left over from a week ago in the fridge. It was extremely loose and fragile to form up because of its age but it worked fine with gentle handling; was a little nervous launching it into the oven because it was so thin and delicate (spots on the bare crust were translucent), but nothing tore - whew. Nothing like the same dough at the "official" 24 hours; it was chewier but had a deeper flavor due to a week's worth of yeast farts workin' on it. I really need to get my Italian yeast spores cultured and get going with that.......
And yeah, rolling pins stay in the drawer when I'm makin' pizza, too.
Did you try to shred the mozzarella or did you just thin slice it instead??
While we're waiting on Liberator, I'll pass on a thing I discovered - you can use an egg slicer (that thing with all the close-spaced wires) on soft fresh mozzarella; the part-skim hard mozza balls would bend or break the wires. Shredders don't work well on whole-milk fresh; it's so soft that the cutters just get all clogged up.
A guy I know in L.A. who runs Prova Pizza uses one of those small-spaced french-fry (like McDonalds) piston slicers you use on potatoes on his big logs of fresh mozza - but he makes 300-500 a day.
Usually I'm lazy and just pick out small chunks from the ball, but the egg slicer works great for uniform slices that all melt at the same rate in a really hot oven, especially if prepping for several pies - it's fast.
Yeah fresh mozza is very soft so I take the cheese and put it in the freezer for awhile to get it a bit more solid before I thin slice it. Shredding it I wouldn't even try because it would probably just make a huge smeary mess. :(
I just asked him to see if he made a huge mess or not. lol
A little thing I do is make my own garlic oil for drizzling on top of the pizza, it's actually pretty simple. All you need is some good fresh crushed/minced garlic and your favorite olive oil (I use the kalamata). Take about 3-4 Tbsp (1/4 cup) of garlic and 1 cup or so olive oil and put them in a good non-metallic storage, after 4-5 days you have your own garlic oil. The stuff last forever and doesn't need to be refrigerated, I've got some I've had for 6 mos and it's still good. You can also add other things in it like crushed red peppers or dried spices (basil, oregano) if you want.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Did you try to shred the mozzarella or did you just thin slice it instead??
I just pulled small chunks of Mozzarella from the ball and tactically placed in on the crust. Lots of tomato shows. Real olde school pizza is made like that. Covering the entire pizza /"tomato pie" is a New School.
Grated plenty of aged Pecorino Romano (from sheep's milk) on it before the Mozzarella. THE best hard grated cheese. Expensive but there is no substitute.
(The New World Order elites are not going away quietly, are they? )
We'll just sic Vic on them by telling him they're not paying their fair share of taxes to support those who are poor on purpose.
OUCH.
He should get that part but he doesn't; The NWO Elites are on the same side as the Socialists, Antifa, Muzzies, and all other divisive groups. We know that because these thugs the world over have been given carte blanche to create havoc and poke the natives as LE have been ordered in ALL cases to Stand Down (instead of cracking Antifa/Muzzie/Commie HEADS).
Coincidentally, I knocked out a Margherita Napolitana + Pepperoni (so not a real Margherita) tonight, using some really old dough left over from a week ago in the fridge. It was extremely loose and fragile to form up because of its age but it worked fine with gentle handling; was a little nervous launching it into the oven because it was so thin and delicate (spots on the bare crust were translucent), but nothing tore - whew. Nothing like the same dough at the "official" 24 hours; it was chewier but had a deeper flavor due to a week's worth of yeast farts workin' on it. I really need to get my Italian yeast spores cultured and get going with that.......
Nice. It's tricky enough to handle and create thin crust (Translucent spots and patches are REAL tricky; But older dough? So...it came out thinner AND tasier too? Sweet.
And yeah, rolling pins stay in the drawer when I'm makin' pizza, too.
That's anti-intuitive right? But we know that to create those "bubbles" or mounds in the crust it's the way to do it.
Again, welcome back to the fetish.
Reminds me -- Next time I'll create "D" Cup size mini-pizzas.
Usually I'm lazy and just pick out small chunks from the ball, but the egg slicer works great for uniform slices that all melt at the same rate in a really hot oven, especially if prepping for several pies - it's fast.
Good idea...
But yeah -- the chunks are good enough for me. AND...plenty of olive oil drizzled. LOVE greasy pizza.
Yeah fresh mozza is very soft so I take the cheese and put it in the freezer for awhile to get it a bit more solid before I thin slice it. Shredding it I wouldn't even try because it would probably just make a huge smeary mess. :(
I just asked him to see if he made a huge mess or not. lol
YUGE MESS!! Pots, pans, tomato residue, full sink.
That's another good idea; toss that cheese into the freezer for a bit.
A little thing I do is make my own garlic oil for drizzling on top of the pizza, it's actually pretty simple. All you need is some good fresh crushed/minced garlic and your favorite olive oil (I use the kalamata). Take about 3-4 Tbsp (1/4 cup) of garlic and 1 cup or so olive oil and put them in a good non-metallic storage, after 4-5 days you have your own garlic oil. The stuff last forever and doesn't need to be refrigerated, I've got some I've had for 6 mos and it's still good. You can also add other things in it like crushed red peppers or dried spices (basil, oregano) if you want.
EXCELLENT IDEA. And I like the Kalamata olive oil idea. Nice.
I've been buying the cloves that are already de-skinned and freezing it. Rinse it off after removing a few closed out of the container. Cuts and tastes JUST LIKE FRESH. Without the mess.
#19. To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden.CZ82 (#7)(Edited)
I feel and fear for our hard-working kids and grand-kids. It's not their fault that lazy and dirty-hippy Baby-Boomers messed up their world.
You guys exude great confidence and common sense realism. Perhaps you have an answer to a question that troubles me. Please enlighten me.
How capitalism can deal with situation , when in couple of decades most of jobs will be eliminated thanks to automation and artificial intelligence, followed by an overabundance of goods while most of people will be in debt and wealth will be concentrated in few hands?
#20. To: A Pole, Justified, Hank Rearden, CZ82 (#19)
How capitalism can deal with situation , when in couple of decades most of jobs will be eliminated thanks to automation and artificial intelligence, followed by an overabundance of goods while most of people will be in debt and wealth will be concentrated in few hands?
Depends of who runs the US Gummint, doesn't it?
Can't stop progress. This has been the case since automation started in the late 19th century/early 20th century, right?
A non-GOPe, GOP-Independent like Donald Trump is already proving to have a plan that works. The underpinning of jobs is liberty, freedom, lower corporate taxes, domestic industrialization, and....importantly, deregulation, and domestic production of goods.
Deregulation of bureaucratic, socialist-like over-officiousness has already proven to increase business expansion, investment, confidence, and hopes that efforts = increased earnings and MORE jobs.
What NO capitalist system can survive is...Bureaucrats and gazillions of Gummint drones from the Public Sector who receive insanely lucretive pensions and benefits. HORDES OF PARASITES, FEASTING ON THE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS.
Colleges and Universities MUST start teaching actual WORK SKILLS (instead of wasting young minds on agenda-driven indoctrination like Social Justice, Gender Studies, Sex Ed, Liberal Arts and PolySci.)
MEMO: People have been in debt since the advent of the Credit Card. And wealth? ALWAYS has been concentrated in a few hands. THAT would worsen with Socialism and it's highly bureaucratic, over-regulated, business suffocating system that demotivates and squashed investment and innovation.
How capitalism can deal with situation , when in couple of decades most of jobs will be eliminated thanks to automation and artificial intelligence, followed by an overabundance of goods while most of people will be in debt and wealth will be concentrated in few hands?
Yes some jobs have been lost to automation but many jobs have been created to create, build and maintain that automation, and are higher paying than what was lost.
Another shift has been from agricultural jobs to services jobs, the services jobs are much easier and pay the same up to 2-3 times as much depending on what it is.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I've been buying the cloves that are already de-skinned and freezing it. Rinse it off after removing a few closed out of the container. Cuts and tastes JUST LIKE FRESH. Without the mess.
I buy the quart jars with the garlic already minced, saves a lot of time peeling and mincing the garlic. 1 Tsp minced = 1 clove of garlic really easy to remember.
Another thing I do is buy "Roasted" garlic powder instead of regular garlic powder. It's a more concentrated flavor so you only have to use 1/2 of what you normally use and it's milder.
Another thing I've done is quit buying spices at the store and I now buy them online. For the very simple reason you don't know how long that spice has been sitting on the shelf or in the storage. Buying spices online ensures you get only the freshest if you buy from the right place. I get all of mine from a place called The Spice House in Chicago, once you start buying theirs you won't go back.
https://www.thespicehouse.com/
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Colleges and Universities MUST start teaching actual WORK SKILLS
High schools quit teaching things like auto repair, wood working and metal working years ago. You had to go to a technical school to get those kind of skills. But as of late they're going back in time and starting to offer some of those kinds of classes again. A friend of mine that worked with me as a HVAC Technician is now an HVAC instructor/teacher in a High School close to where he lives. I asked him how he likes it and he said "no more vans no more rooftops and no more bitchy customers"... lol
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Yes some jobs have been lost to automation but many jobs have been created to create, build and maintain that automation, and are higher paying than what was lost.
The coming technology will require very little maintenance. You are just thinking that future will be a repetition of the past. I think you are not getting what is coming.
Another shift has been from agricultural jobs to services jobs, the services jobs are much easier and pay the same up to 2-3 times as much depending on what it is.
Most will be done by androids. Faster better and cheaper.
Grated plenty of aged Pecorino Romano (from sheep's milk) on it before the Mozzarella. THE best hard grated cheese. Expensive but there is no substitute.
Yeah some of the Romano's and Parmesan's can get quite expensive upwards of $20 per lb depending on the variation. I don't know where you live but the closest place to me for a good cheese selection is Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati. But the best place is Cheese Haven up in Port Clinton, that's about a 3-4hr run for me up RTE 4 and then across Sandusky Bay (which is close to the amusement park called Cedar Point).
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Man still has to create it, program it and service it. It will still have bearings that wear out, lubrication that has to be replenished/changed and programs to be written and reloaded when it gets corrupted.
Without humans it's all metallic junk, which will bring about $120 per ton at the local scrapyard.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Man still has to create it, program it and service it. It will still have bearings that wear out, lubrication that has to be replenished/changed and programs to be written and reloaded when it gets corrupted.
But will it all need as many human hands as before?
It seems, you did not understand my question. If the technological progress reduces need for human labor only, a few times (like it did with agriculture in the past), what will you do with the rest of humans?
One of my main customers is a semi conductor place, it's full of CNC machines there must be close to 125 in the building. Operators still have to install the part and remove it during the process. The operator also has to monitor the part during the process and do any small changes/adjustments to the computer program while it's running. If these parts are out of tolerance by so much as a few thousands then you have to have a maintenance person try to calibrate it. This may work and it may not once the table bearings and jackscrews get so worn the whole thing has to be torn apart and rebuilt, this usually happens about once a year.
The company has maintenance people on site around the clock 24/7/365 to keep the mills running but some things they can't do themselves so have to have a company rep come do them. Recently they just signed a contract with the company to have one of their reps on site for a full 40hr week and is on call at night if needed. Their hourly rate is over $100 an hr and the rep receives $200 a day for travel.
There are also laser etching/measuring machines, wire saws, crystal growers, kilns and assorted other machines. Even though they are automated it's only to a certain degree and it still has to have operators and maintenance people. A normal shift for the plant consists of over 100 people which consists of operators, maintenance, engineers, purchasing and other office people. They recently expanded and bought another building about 50 miles from the current site and are fitting it out right now to begin production this winter/early spring.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Another shift has been from agricultural jobs to services jobs, the services jobs are much easier and pay the same up to 2-3 times as much depending on what it is.
Right. Service jobs. People skills. REAL LIFE SKILLS LIKE BLUE-COLLAR.
Frankly, the Gummint has employed far too unproductive many low-skill, no-knowledge drones and pencil-pushing bureaucrats than necessary. THAT is apparently the anti-Capitalist/Socialist-Commie "solution" to employment....
DC and local gummints are the nation's biggest employer. NOT helpful to personal and economic freedom, entrepreneurship and productivity. THIS includes Leftist tentacles of gummint -- colleges and universities -- who have been prioritizing SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR "skills" and how to order Lattes at Starbucks as "Life-Skills".
I buy the quart jars with the garlic already minced, saves a lot of time peeling and mincing the garlic. 1 Tsp minced = 1 clove of garlic really easy to remember.
Another thing I do is buy "Roasted" garlic powder instead of regular garlic powder. It's a more concentrated flavor so you only have to use 1/2 of what you normally use and it's milder.
Yup, I always have the roasted garlic powder around...That works many a time.
But I find the minced garlic lacking in pungency and freshness. If you can find a place that sells the peeled cloves, grab it and freeze. Works extremely well.
Another thing I've done is quit buying spices at the store and I now buy them online. For the very simple reason you don't know how long that spice has been sitting on the shelf or in the storage. Buying spices online ensures you get only the freshest if you buy from the right place. I get all of mine from a place called The Spice House in Chicago, once you start buying theirs you won't go back.
I don't know where you live but the closest place to me for a good cheese selection is Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati. But the best place is Cheese Haven up in Port Clinton, that's about a 3-4hr run for me...
WHOA.
You are in no chef's man's land, eh?
Maybe you're better off buying the cheeze online at Amazon or elsewhere? OR...buying a LOT of it at Jungle Jims while there. Aging it longer should only make it more pungent.
Maybe you're better off buying the cheeze online at Amazon or elsewhere? OR...buying a LOT of it at Jungle Jims while there. Aging it longer should only make it more pungent.
They do have most everything I need around here the Kroger's stores are getting better, but some things they just don't carry. So I do shop online for things like the good Caputo "00" pizza dough flour and sometimes San Marzano tomatoes. They do carry the tomatoes around here but you can't always get the brand you like, and I can't always make the 50 mile run to Cincy to get them. I prefer the ones grown in Italy vs ones grown in the US much better flavor.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Oddly, the war zone victims in Chi-town didn't seem to mind much as long as 0bama was in office. Suddenly they've become fed up??
Good point. The tree huggers, queers, fags, potatoes, male haters and welfare scum need some WHITE thing to blame the potato on potato deaths... and why not kill two birds with one stone by making noise during WHITE Trump presidency.
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