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Title: Ocasio-Cortez Is Asked How America Will Pay For Her Socialist Dreams. Guess How Much Information She Has In Her Head.
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The Wire
URL Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/3419 ... rica-will-pay-her-hank-berrien
Published: Aug 8, 2018
Author: HANK BERRIEN
Post Date: 2018-08-08 08:59:25 by IbJensen
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Views: 12838
Comments: 93
Speaking with host Jon Lovett on Pod Save America, New York Democratic socialist darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was asked for details as to how America would pay for her socialist dreams, such as universal healthcare and free college tuition. Although she spouted for roughly two minutes, the answer Ocasio-Cortez offered was this: she has no idea. Lovett prompted the descent into puffery and sound and fury signifying nothing by stating: We don’t talk about what defense costs; we’re about to hit a trillion dollars in debt because of the corporate tax cuts; yet when we talk about pre-K, healthcare, college, suddenly it’s unrealistic because of the cost. And it’s not just bad faith Republicans that make that argument; you hear it from Democrats as well. What’s your response to that? Ocasio-Cortez started like a house afire: “Well, I think it’s that exact same thing.” That makes it abundantly clear. She continued, “It’s that we… you know they say, ‘How are you going to pay for it?’ as though they haven’t used those same ways to pay for unlimited wars, to pay for trillion dollar tax cuts and tax cut extensions. They use these mechanisms to pay for these things all the time.” What “same ways"? What “mechanisms"? But we digress. Ocasio-Cortez waxed eloquent with more brilliantisms: “They only want to know — it just seems like their pockets are empty when we’re talking about education and investing in human capital in the United States: education, healthcare, housing, and investing in the middle class.” It would seem the students who want to game the system by getting college education for free are the ones with empty pockets while in her dreams the adults in the room have to ante up, and what she means by “investing in the middle class” is anyone’s guess, but she had more: All of a sudden, there’s nothing left. All of a sudden the wealthiest nation in the world, we’re just totally scarce. We have complete scarcity when it comes to the things that are the most important. She might want to visit socialist Venezuela for a look at “complete scarcity” of things that are most important, such as food. Ocasio-Cortez continued, "And so for me, I think it belies a lack of moral priority and it’s unfortunate." As opposed to making others pay for your dreams, which used to be called stealing. Ocasio-Cortez then rambled on: I think that — but I also think a lot of these folks, especially those perhaps on the Democratic side, perhaps they don’t even see it, you know? I don’t know. I don’t know if that’s a generous interpretation or not, but I legitimately think that they start kind of buying into conservative talking points. They get dragged into their court all the time. And I think it is because there’s this really myopic, and also, just misunderstanding of politics as this flat 2-dimensional left/right thing. And so they always feel like, “Okay, the Right says this thing. We have to respond to it.” And that’s why they’re winning. That’s why they’ve won for the last ten years, because they’ve dragged us onto their court. And we refuse to have our own strong message to force them to play defense on. In all that verbiage, did you see an answer as to how the young socialist would pay for her dreams? Didn’t think so. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1026919316665450496
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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)
I don't know how she would pay for it, but I can tell you how I will. Of course, she and I don't completely share dreams, but I agree with some of hers. The short answer to the question is that it will be paid for the same way we pay for everything the government does not: wealth redistribution< primarily in the form of taxes, secondarily in the form of regulation. Specifics would include substantially reducing the US military footprint and American imperialism, to save money, reducing the police state presence, for the same reasons, and setting taxes at the level necessary to fund what is required. Marijuana would be legalized and taxed, like tobacco, to raise substantial revenue. Securities transactions would be subject to the sales tax, like other transactions, and also to property taxes, like other substantial forms of property (houses, cars and boats). The combination of savings from defense and over-regulation reductions and new revenue from capturing ALL forms of wealth by the property tax (as opposed to the current system of taxing just houses and cars, which skews the burden heavily to the middle class) and taxes on drug and securities transactions, would provide the revenue needed to balance the budget and start retiring the national debt. The more debt that is retired, the less money is spent on interest on the debt. That is the third major source of revenue: the money that is currently spent on debt service would be available first for accelerated debt retirement, and then for investment in education and medical care. That is how I would do it: make the tax code fair. Reduce military and paramility forces and over-regulation. Tax securities and securities transactions and pot. Balance the budget. Use the surplus to retire debt, freeing up interest payments. Use the excess revenue after debt retirement to substantially improve education and medical care. Done. Without socialism. That's how I would do it.
I agree with NONE of hers while I agree with you as regards 'trimming' the central socialist government, I would take a meat ax to it and roll the calendar aback to 1912 and abolish the income tax and the IRS completely. This is the only way to kill the monster that is eating us.
I don't think of the government as a monster eating us, but as an insurance policy. I want that insurance policy to be robust enough to provide a working class standard of living to a family out of work, and a middle class education to a child without any means of support. I want universal education sufficient to provide reasonable opportunity to every American child who will work, regardless of parental status. I do not want the disabled, the unemployed or the aged to go homeless or without food or medical care. I want violent crime controlled, and morals crimes left unpoliced and mostly stricken from the books. If we're going to have libertarianism, that's where we should be having it: leave people alone to their bodily pleasures. Libertarianism is unacceptable when it reduces organ donation to capitalist transactions: the rich should not have greater access to organs than anybody else, and the poor should not be able to sell theirs out of desperation. Etc. If we faced the USSR, I would want to continue to fund the huge imperial footprint. But we don't, so I want to save the money and reduce the footprint. I do not believe that American hegemony provides enough economic benefit to middle and working class Americans to justify the expense. We're never going to abolish the income tax or go back to pre-1912, because most of us are never going to give up the insurance policy.
Ah yes we have to keep the lazy portion of society alive so that they can vote, by stealing from productive people. Get real...
Get real... Le chien aboie, la caravane passe.
Vicomte13 - Increasingly, I am convinced, you are a fuckin' idiot every time you create a post.
Increasingly, I am convinced, you are a fuckin' idiot every time you create a post. You aren’t completely a kook.
But, you are. As a personal opinion, you are an insane asshole that adds no added value to anyone.
“Assholes” are important, ba ba ba Fucky. That’s why everyone has one.
So where did yours (Gatlin) run off to??
Back to washing dishes at his local ACLU clubhouse kitchen? HuffPo/DU forums?
#27. To: Liberator (#25)
More like plunging toilets for them, they're so full of shit at those places they need a full time bathroom attendant. Some people have these little ploys they like to pull on other posters, I see it on every forum I've ever been on. His little ploy is he's smart and you're a stupid nincompoop. And when his bullschitt ploy comes back to bite/haunt him it's time to runaway for awhile and hope people forget what happened. Sooner or later he'll be back as himself or with another pseudo name, they just can't resist.
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#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
....but I agree with some of hers.
#3. To: IbJensen (#2)
This is the only way to kill the monster that is eating us.
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
#15. To: CZ82 (#13)
Ah yes we have to keep the lazy portion of society alive so that they can vote, by stealing from productive people.
#16. To: Vicomte13, CZ82 (#15)
Le chien aboie, la caravane passe.
#17. To: buckeroo (#16)
Vicomte13 -
#19. To: GrandIsland (#17)
You aren’t completely a kook.
#20. To: buckeroo (#19)
#22. To: GrandIsland (#20)
“Assholes” are important, ba ba ba Fucky. That’s why everyone has one.
#25. To: CZ82, GrandIsland (#22)
So where did yours (Gatlin) run off to??
Replies to Comment # 25. Back to washing dishes at his local ACLU clubhouse kitchen? HuffPo/DU forums?
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