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Title: Ocasio-Cortez Is Asked How America Will Pay For Her Socialist Dreams. Guess How Much Information She Has In Her Head.
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The Wire
URL Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/3419 ... rica-will-pay-her-hank-berrien
Published: Aug 8, 2018
Author: HANK BERRIEN
Post Date: 2018-08-08 08:59:25 by IbJensen
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Views: 12860
Comments: 93
Speaking with host Jon Lovett on Pod Save America, New York Democratic socialist darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was asked for details as to how America would pay for her socialist dreams, such as universal healthcare and free college tuition. Although she spouted for roughly two minutes, the answer Ocasio-Cortez offered was this: she has no idea. Lovett prompted the descent into puffery and sound and fury signifying nothing by stating: We don’t talk about what defense costs; we’re about to hit a trillion dollars in debt because of the corporate tax cuts; yet when we talk about pre-K, healthcare, college, suddenly it’s unrealistic because of the cost. And it’s not just bad faith Republicans that make that argument; you hear it from Democrats as well. What’s your response to that? Ocasio-Cortez started like a house afire: “Well, I think it’s that exact same thing.” That makes it abundantly clear. She continued, “It’s that we… you know they say, ‘How are you going to pay for it?’ as though they haven’t used those same ways to pay for unlimited wars, to pay for trillion dollar tax cuts and tax cut extensions. They use these mechanisms to pay for these things all the time.” What “same ways"? What “mechanisms"? But we digress. Ocasio-Cortez waxed eloquent with more brilliantisms: “They only want to know — it just seems like their pockets are empty when we’re talking about education and investing in human capital in the United States: education, healthcare, housing, and investing in the middle class.” It would seem the students who want to game the system by getting college education for free are the ones with empty pockets while in her dreams the adults in the room have to ante up, and what she means by “investing in the middle class” is anyone’s guess, but she had more: All of a sudden, there’s nothing left. All of a sudden the wealthiest nation in the world, we’re just totally scarce. We have complete scarcity when it comes to the things that are the most important. She might want to visit socialist Venezuela for a look at “complete scarcity” of things that are most important, such as food. Ocasio-Cortez continued, "And so for me, I think it belies a lack of moral priority and it’s unfortunate." As opposed to making others pay for your dreams, which used to be called stealing. Ocasio-Cortez then rambled on: I think that — but I also think a lot of these folks, especially those perhaps on the Democratic side, perhaps they don’t even see it, you know? I don’t know. I don’t know if that’s a generous interpretation or not, but I legitimately think that they start kind of buying into conservative talking points. They get dragged into their court all the time. And I think it is because there’s this really myopic, and also, just misunderstanding of politics as this flat 2-dimensional left/right thing. And so they always feel like, “Okay, the Right says this thing. We have to respond to it.” And that’s why they’re winning. That’s why they’ve won for the last ten years, because they’ve dragged us onto their court. And we refuse to have our own strong message to force them to play defense on. In all that verbiage, did you see an answer as to how the young socialist would pay for her dreams? Didn’t think so. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1026919316665450496
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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)
I don't know how she would pay for it, but I can tell you how I will. Of course, she and I don't completely share dreams, but I agree with some of hers. The short answer to the question is that it will be paid for the same way we pay for everything the government does not: wealth redistribution< primarily in the form of taxes, secondarily in the form of regulation. Specifics would include substantially reducing the US military footprint and American imperialism, to save money, reducing the police state presence, for the same reasons, and setting taxes at the level necessary to fund what is required. Marijuana would be legalized and taxed, like tobacco, to raise substantial revenue. Securities transactions would be subject to the sales tax, like other transactions, and also to property taxes, like other substantial forms of property (houses, cars and boats). The combination of savings from defense and over-regulation reductions and new revenue from capturing ALL forms of wealth by the property tax (as opposed to the current system of taxing just houses and cars, which skews the burden heavily to the middle class) and taxes on drug and securities transactions, would provide the revenue needed to balance the budget and start retiring the national debt. The more debt that is retired, the less money is spent on interest on the debt. That is the third major source of revenue: the money that is currently spent on debt service would be available first for accelerated debt retirement, and then for investment in education and medical care. That is how I would do it: make the tax code fair. Reduce military and paramility forces and over-regulation. Tax securities and securities transactions and pot. Balance the budget. Use the surplus to retire debt, freeing up interest payments. Use the excess revenue after debt retirement to substantially improve education and medical care. Done. Without socialism. That's how I would do it.
I agree with NONE of hers while I agree with you as regards 'trimming' the central socialist government, I would take a meat ax to it and roll the calendar aback to 1912 and abolish the income tax and the IRS completely. This is the only way to kill the monster that is eating us.
I don't think of the government as a monster eating us, but as an insurance policy. I want that insurance policy to be robust enough to provide a working class standard of living to a family out of work, and a middle class education to a child without any means of support. I want universal education sufficient to provide reasonable opportunity to every American child who will work, regardless of parental status. I do not want the disabled, the unemployed or the aged to go homeless or without food or medical care. I want violent crime controlled, and morals crimes left unpoliced and mostly stricken from the books. If we're going to have libertarianism, that's where we should be having it: leave people alone to their bodily pleasures. Libertarianism is unacceptable when it reduces organ donation to capitalist transactions: the rich should not have greater access to organs than anybody else, and the poor should not be able to sell theirs out of desperation. Etc. If we faced the USSR, I would want to continue to fund the huge imperial footprint. But we don't, so I want to save the money and reduce the footprint. I do not believe that American hegemony provides enough economic benefit to middle and working class Americans to justify the expense. We're never going to abolish the income tax or go back to pre-1912, because most of us are never going to give up the insurance policy.
Ah yes we have to keep the lazy portion of society alive so that they can vote, by stealing from productive people. Get real...
Get real... Le chien aboie, la caravane passe.
I know you don't care you're going to keep it up with the faux empathy schtick. Making people be responsible for themselves will help them more that making someone else responsible for them. It's called turning a child into an adult something that not a lot of parents are capable of doing with their children nowadays. And I'm sure the reason for that is they're not adults either, they received participation trophy's too. The last few generations have been given more and more free stuff by their parents (their parents falsely claim they care about them). If they really cared they would make the children learn what the real world is like instead of trying to shield them from it, but that would be mean wouldn't it? (You were given free schitt so you think your kids deserve even more free schitt, don't you)? So the parents of these last 2 generations label everybody who disagrees with them as racists, homophobes, bigots, white supremacists, etc, etc, etc. The biggest problem with the labelers is they're perfectly happy with a certain class of people being "slaves" to their feelings/policies, it's called financial slavery (which is actually worse than what they've labeled the nay sayers). This is all about the labelers feeling good about themselves because it makes them look like they "really care" about the poor and destitute of the country when they really don't. The policies they tout will make others poor and destitute too, but that doesn't really matter that they're destructive to man. It's all about them feeling good about themselves and being popular with their stupid friends/family. The real world awaits you stick your head thru the window/door in the wall of hypocrisy you've built around yourself to keep the nay sayers out. Go visit some other countries (I'm not talking about EU socialist where you were raised, real schittholes like Africa and ME) and you'll find most of the people just want a way to provide for their families and be free to chose the way they do it. Not have some government panoche hand them a few scraps, a cardboard box to live in and a bunch of hollow promises (lies), which is all the socialistic types have to offer... And if it weren't for us mean Americans you'd still be part of Germany or the USSR being their financial slaves...
So the parents of these last 2 generations label everybody who disagrees with them as racists, homophobes, bigots, white supremacists, etc, etc, etc. The biggest problem with the labelers is they're perfectly happy with a certain class of people being "slaves" to their feelings/policies, it's called financial slavery... The policies they tout will make others poor and destitute too, but that doesn't really matter that they're destructive to man. It's all about them feeling good about themselves and being popular with their stupid friends/family. The real world awaits you...And if it weren't for us mean Americans you'd still be part of Germany or the USSR being their financial slaves... OUTSTANDING RANT!
#31. To: Liberator (#23)
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I normally don't do rants cause with a lot of folks that's just their way of attempting to baffle with bullschitt, short and sweet is better. Where would all of these so called "successful" socialist countries be without America footing the bill for NATO and other defense programs? (I think we're about to find out). Maybe we should send them some of our minorities to go along with the Muzzy's they're importing and see how that works out for them? Oh wait, never mind that would mean we would have to up the timetable by 20 years for having to save them from themselves again. We're going to have to do that sooner or later and this would hasten the inevitable...
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#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
....but I agree with some of hers.
#3. To: IbJensen (#2)
This is the only way to kill the monster that is eating us.
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
#15. To: CZ82 (#13)
Ah yes we have to keep the lazy portion of society alive so that they can vote, by stealing from productive people.
#21. To: Vicomte13 (#15)
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#23. To: CZ82, Vicomte13 (#21)
If they [liberal zombies] really cared they would make the children learn what the real world is like instead of trying to shield them from it, but that would be mean wouldn't it? (You were given free schitt so you think your kids deserve even more free schitt, don't you)?
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