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Title: Judge sued over refusal to OK transgender teens' new names
Source: Newser
URL Source: http://www.newser.com/article/aba36 ... ansgender-teens-new-names.html
Published: Aug 5, 2018
Author: MARK GILLISPIE, Associated Press
Post Date: 2018-08-05 14:42:02 by Hondo68
Keywords: what restroom, locker room, e uses at school, Heidi, Jenna, Elliott, James
Views: 2228
Comments: 15

CLEVELAND (AP) — An attorney for the mothers of three transgender teens in Ohio said in a federal lawsuit filed Friday that a county judge has shown a disturbing pattern and practice of not allowing transgender children to legally change their names, refusals that can prove harmful and violates their constitutional right to equal protection.

The lawsuit names Joseph Kirby, the Probate and Juvenile Court judge in Warren County near Cincinnati. Kirby's bailiff said Friday the judge was out of town and unavailable for comment.

Stephanie Whitaker, of Mason, sued on behalf of her 15-year-old son Elliott after Kirby in June refused to allow him to change his name from Heidi, saying he should come back when he turns 18. Jennifer Saul sued to protect her 15-year-old son James, who has a hearing Aug. 14 before Kirby to change his name from Jenna. A woman listed in the lawsuit as Jane Doe says her 17-year-old son fears that Kirby will reject his name change petition, which hasn't yet been filed.

All three teens have been receiving therapy and medical treatment for gender dysphoria with their doctors fully supporting their name changes.

The lawsuit said Kirby refused to grant two other transgender teens name changes this year because they are minors. The only approval for a transgender minor this year in Warren County came from a court magistrate.

"Forcing children to wait until they're 18 to change their names increases their risk of being outed and bullied, having violence perpetrated against them and having depressive symptoms," attorney Joshua Langdon said.

It's especially important for transgender children to be allowed to use their new names on their driver's licenses, school records and college applications, Langdon said. He added that studies show the more times transgender children are "dead named" — referred to by their birth names — the higher the risk of suicide attempts.

Legal name changes are routine, even for children, if they and their parents are in agreement, Langdon said.

"The only time the court is supposed to step in is if there's a disagreement among the parties," he said.

Langdon noted the inappropriateness and irrelevance of Kirby's questioning of Elliott Whitaker at his June hearing. A transcript shows that Kirby asked the teen about what restroom or locker room he uses at school and whether his transition has anything to do with his sexual interests. Kirby also wondered whether Caitlyn Jenner "set the stage" for people to change their genders.

Kirby's subsequent ruling on Elliott's case mirrored his previous refusals. He noted that judges must take the best interest of a child into consideration when deciding whether to allow a legal name change and wrote that he's not saying, "no," but "not yet," and to try again when he turns 18.

Langdon said he is not aware of any other federal lawsuits that have been filed over such refusals.

"We're trying to make sure that judges don't treat transgender teens differently on account of their gender identity," Langdon said.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

We should be killing these oddities of narure... if I’ve gotta pay for their weaknesses.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-08-05   15:08:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)

These canary youth should stay out of the bathrooms and crap on police cars like they do in The Donald's hometown New York, New York.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-05   19:11:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68, GrandIsland (#2)

The Donald's hometown New York, New York.

The Donald's hometown is NOT New York, New York.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-06   16:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan, Queens, Manhattan, NYC (#5)

The Donald's hometown is NOT New York, New York.

America's mayor Ruby knows New York, New York.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-06   16:32:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#6)

America's mayor Ruby knows New York, New York.

Rudy's hometown is not New York, New York either.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-06   17:10:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

Born Rudolph William Louis Giuliani
May 28, 1944 (age 74)
New York City, New York, U.S.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani

East Flatbush/Brooklyn if you want to get picky, but it's officially New York, New York as noted above.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-06   17:46:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

East Flatbush/Brooklyn if you want to get picky, but it's officially New York, New York as noted above.

You should not try to lecture someone native born to NYC about where New York, New York is. Your quote from Wikipedia does not say "New York, NY," which has a specific connotation different from New York City, New York.

New York City, NY is not used by someone from NYC.

Someone from NYC is either from Bronx, NY; Queens, NY; Staten Island, NY; Broooklyn, NY; or New York, NY.

NYC is made up of five boroughs and five counties, geographically the same. The Bronx/Bronx county
Queens/Queens county
Staten Island/Richmond county
Brooklyn/Kings county
Manhattan/New York county

NY, NY consists of four zip codes 10001, 10002, 10003 and 10004. Mail addressed to New York, NY goes to New York county only.

NY, NY is geographically identical to the borough of Manhattan. That also makes it geographically identical to the county of New York.

Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, and the Bronx are four of the five parts of NYC, and are commonly referred to by their borough names. New York, NY, aka The City or just New York, is the fifth part.

When New Yorkers refer to The City, or New York (in context of the city), that is Manhattan. Go out on The Island to an LIRR station and ask for a ticket to New York and that most definitely means a ticket to Penn Station across from The Garden, and most definitely does not mean Flatbush station.

New York on Manhattan island was New York before the other boroughs (or counties) were annexed to become part of the incorporated city.

New York City vernacular uses the borough name for all but Manhattan.

NY, NY is that part of NYC which is the borough of Manhattan or county of New York only. Manhattan is New York or The City.

Nobody who was born and grew up in Brooklyn or Queens claims New York, NY as their hometown.

Some anonymous nobody writing about Rudy Giuliani in Wikipedia is not exactly a source about the terminology of NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBt-7ox8KA

And just look how those folks from The City look down upon those Brooklyn girls riding the Downtown Train.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-06   21:41:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nolu chan (#10) (Edited)

Nobody who was born and grew up in Brooklyn or Queens claims New York, NY as their hometown.

I was born in Queens (Jamaica) and NY is on my passport.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-08-06   22:36:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

I was born in Queens (Jamaica) and NY is on my passport.

Now tell the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH....

Your passport lists your place of birth as "New York. U.S.A."

Isn't that correct?

Other places of birth that appear on passports are:

Alabama. U.S.A.
Alaska. U.S.A.
Arizona. U.S.A.
Arkansas. U.S.A.

Perhaps you detect a pattern there.

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