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Title: New Cohen Tape Surfaces a Bigger Trump Fish
Source: Bloomberg
URL Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti ... ording-surfaces-a-bigger-catch
Published: Jul 26, 2018
Author: Timothy L. O'Brien
Post Date: 2018-07-26 13:38:47 by Jameson
Keywords: Frank, Wilson, Lives
Views: 14593
Comments: 112

Allen Weisselberg knows far more than the president’s former lawyer.

About two months before Election Day in 2016, Donald Trump and his former lawyer (and self-described “fixer”) Michael Cohen were chatting about how to convince a former Playboy model, Karen McDougal, to keep quiet about what she described as a long-term affair with the presidential candidate.

“We’ll have to pay,” Cohen said, according to a recording of the conversation that CNN obtained and broadcast Tuesday night.

“Pay with cash,” Trump appears to respond.

“No, no,” Cohen says. Earlier in the conversation Cohen suggested that he “open a company for the transfer of all of that info” to the National Enquirer and its parent company, American Media Inc. AMI’s chairman, David Pecker, is a friend of the president and he is also referred to on the tape. The Enquirer had already purchased McDougal’s account of her affair with Trump earlier in 2016 and then never published it. Trump and Cohen appear to be discussing a second payment to McDougal (and there is no indication that it was ever made).

“I’ve spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up,” Cohen tells Trump. “So, I’m all over that. And, I spoke to Allen about it.”

Weisselberg isn’t a bit player in Trumplandia and his emergence on the Cohen- Trump recording – as someone possibly facilitating a scheme apparently meant to disguise a payoff – should worry the president. Weisselberg has detailed information about the Trump Organization’s operations, business deals and finances. If he winds up in investigators’ crosshairs for secreting payoffs, he could potentially provide much more damaging information to prosecutors than Cohen ever could about the president’s dealmaking.

Cohen, of course, already is reportedly being investigated by federal prosecutors in New York for possibly engaging in bank fraud, wire fraud and campaign finance violations. To the extent that his legal travails spill over onto the president, it’s worrisome to the White House. But campaign finance violations aren’t likely to be as threatening to Trump as more serious transgressions such as, for example, obstruction of justice or exchanging policy favors for financial gain.

Moreover, Cohen has only worked for Trump since 2006, and he never operated as a traditional lawyer. Instead, he brought potential licensing deals to the president's attention for years and also worked with the career criminal and Trump business partner Felix Sater on a proposal for a Trump project in Moscow. (Sater and Cohen, childhood friends, also paired up to push an initiative to end economic sanctions against Russia imposed because of its military annexation of part of Ukraine; Putin, according to my Bloomberg News colleagues, reportedly discussed a plan to resolve the conflict in Ukraine during his private meeting with Trump in Helsinki last week.)

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 107.

#6. To: Jameson (#0)

Unlike Hillary Bullshit Felon or Barky Odumbass, there no crime here. There's not even agreement as to what was said, so it'll fade along with all the other desperate leftist attempts to not get wiped out in November.

RussiaRussiaRussia! StormyStormyStormy! TapeTapeTape! ..........pffffft.

Crush the Idiot Left.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-07-26   17:51:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Hank Rearden (#6)

"...there no crime here..."

Nice typing Corky....

But, you are probably wrong....

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56689

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-27   7:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jameson, Hank Rearden (#9)

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56689

"Cohen willing to testify that Trump approved 2016 meeting with Russians"

"President Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen is willing to testify to Special Council Robert Mueller that Trump was aware of an infamous June 2016 meeting with Russian operatives at Trump Tower before it happened."

What is the alleged crime?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-27   23:26:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#13)

"President Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen is willing to testify to Special Council Robert Mueller that Trump was aware of an infamous June 2016 meeting with Russian operatives at Trump Tower before it happened."

What is the alleged crime?

Didn't Trump claim he didn't know about the meeting? Unless I miss my guess that's about all that can come out of this "HE KNEW, HE KNEW, HE KNEW, HE's A TRAITOR A COLLABORATOR... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"....

Lol...

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-28   8:33:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#14)

Didn't Trump claim he didn't know about the meeting?

You're correct he DID claim to know nothing.

But let's remember, dip-shit donnie is a chronic lying sack-of-shit

That is a proven fact.

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-28   11:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jameson, CZ82 (#16)

But let's remember, dip-shit donnie is a chronic lying sack-of-shit

That is a proven fact.

But let's remember that being a chronic lying sack-of-shit is not a crime.

That is a proven fact, unlike contrasting chronic Libertarian mopery.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-28   22:40:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#30)

But let's remember that being a chronic lying sack-of-shit is not a crime.

You must be awfully proud of your president......and of your ability to justify this man's existence.

He's a degenerate lying sack-of-shit, but that's not actually a crime!!!

So he's still my hero.

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-29   18:22:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#32) (Edited)

Where were you when Clinton lied about using an interns cunt for an ashtray?

Where were you when your potato president was using his power to spying on republican candidates (more specifically, the one that threatened your cunt, Shitlary)?

Shut your hypocritical shit flaps... snowflake.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-29   18:41:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#35)

Where were you?

That's all you've got?

You can't defend the degenerate orange russian, can you?

Fuck off, smokey.

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-29   18:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jameson (#38)

You can't defend the degenerate orange russian, can you?

I don’t need to “defend” Trump. He’s doing what he campaigned to do and has broke no laws. THAT’S ALL I CARE ABOUT. I could give a rats fuck if video surfaced of Trump grabbing Pelosi’s dried up snatch... and killed all the fruit flies buzzing around that scabbed over thing.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-29   18:52:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: GrandIsland (#40)

THAT’S ALL I CARE ABOUT.

Ahhhh....

The low-IQ voter.

Congratulations!!

YOU!! are the demographic that the Russian crime lords knew they could compromise with the right greasy lying degenerate candidate...

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-29   19:20:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jameson (#45)

The low-IQ voter.

51% voted for Shitlery because she has (it’s believed) a cunt. Who’s the low IQ voter?

lol

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-29   19:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: GrandIsland (#46)

Who’s the low IQ voter?

You

You are the LOW IQ Voter.

YOU are the voter who was targeted by the Russians...too stupid to think logically...willing to vote on pure emotion and hatred...

You delivered to the Russians their victory - without them firing single shot...

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-29   21:27:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jameson (#48)

YOU are the voter who was targeted by the Russians...

You stupid cunt. I was already going to vote for Trump, LONG BEFORE the Russians hacked Shitlarys email.

I’d vote for Putin before I’d vote for a filthy snowflake. Go fuck yourself.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-29   21:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: GrandIsland (#49)

I’d vote for Putin

Thank you for proving my point.

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-30   7:25:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jameson (#66)

collusion: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose

COLLUSION is not a crime

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/03/alan-dershowitz-mueller-probe-trump-collusion-not-crime

Dershowitz on Alleged Trump Collusion: Robert Mueller 'Inventing a Crime'

Fox News
April 3, 2018
Hannity (video at link)

Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz reacted to reports that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating President Donald Trump for possible collusion, but does not consider Trump a criminal target in the probe.

Dershowitz, a longtime Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton in 2016, said Mueller would be "inventing a crime" to charge Trump in that case.

"There's no such crime as 'collusion' in the federal statute," he said.

[snip]

https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dershowitz-donald-trump-impeachment-1012672

Dershowitz: President Donald Trump Should Not Be Impeached Even If He Colluded With Russia | Opinion

By Alan Dershowitz
Newsweek
On 7/9/18 at 2:56 PM

[excerpt]

What if President Donald Trump were to be impeached for colluding with Russia during the presidential campaign? If there were proof of such collusion—and to date I have seen none—that would be a serious political sin. An American should not collude with a foreign power, especially a hostile foreign power, in an effort to enhance his candidacy. But there is a dispositive difference between a political sin and a high crime and misdemeanor. There is no such crime of collusion in the context of an election. Collusion may entail other crimes, such as election law violations or accessory to crimes such as hacking. But collusion itself is simply not a crime.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   10:57:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: nolu chan (#75)

Collusion itself is simply not a crime.

That horse is dead, you should stop beating it now.

So, why do you think that DD45 continues to tweet the words "no collusion"?

Do you think it is possible that he actually believes the lies that he tells?

Does the fact that he allowed (probably directed) his son and campaign manager to meet with representatives of a hostile foreign power compromise his role of POTUS?

Do think it is probable that he has always been compromised through his greasy financing deals with the russian mobsters (redundant, I know!)

Does this individual deserve our trust or confidence?

Who will be the first one to flip, Donnie JR or Kushner?

Of course, this could be all about nothing....after all Rosanne Barr is a big fan....

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-30   11:16:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jameson (#76) (Edited)

collusion: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose

There is no Federal crime of collusion. If you have some collusion fetish, fill in the blank. The crime of collusion is 18 U.S.C. § _____.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   13:13:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: nolu chan (#89)

There is no Federal crime of collusion.

Listen Louis,

Just because there is no federal crime, doesn't mean it didn't happen

It just comes down to whether or not you think it's "OK"

Is there a chance that the WH 5 entered into a criminal conspiracy to illegally change the outcome of an election?

Perhaps?

Let me ask you this, what do you think Rudy meant when he said DS45 wasn't physically at the "meeting" with the russian mobsters?

Do you think DS45 was on the speakerphone???

and since team "rudy patootie" is now admitting that DS Donnie knew about the meeting....that would make donnie jr. and maybe kushner liars...under oath, to the FBI.

But this is probably all fake news right?

Rosanne thinks so...

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-30   13:34:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Jameson (#93)

Just because there is no federal crime, doesn't mean it didn't happen

The great, the magnificant President Donald J. Trump had dinner last evening. Just because it is not a crime does not mean it did not happen. It means it is not news.

It just comes down to whether or not you think it's "OK"

It comes down to whether there is a criminal statute of collusion.

Is there a chance that the WH 5 entered into a criminal conspiracy to illegally change the outcome of an election?

No. The great, the magnificent President Donald J. Trump beat the crap out of the side of beef dragged out of and thrown back into the Scooby ambulance fair and square.

There was a conspiracy to change the Democratic Primary election. Bernie got screwed.

Perhaps?

No, defniitely. Bernie got screwed.

Let me ask you this, what do you think Rudy meant when he said DS45 wasn't physically at the "meeting" with the russian mobsters?

He meant the the great, the magnificent President Donald J. Trump was not there in all or any of his corporeal glory.

Do you think DS45 was on the speakerphone???

No.

and since team "rudy patootie" is now admitting that DS Donnie knew about the meeting....that would make donnie jr. and maybe kushner liars...under oath, to the FBI.

Fake news.

But this is probably all fake news right?

If you knew it was very fake news, why did you say it?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/26/giuliani_trump_did_not_know_in_advance_about_russia_meeting_in_trump_tower_shocked_by_cohen.html

Giuliani: Trump Did Not Know In Advance About Russia Meeting In Trump Tower, "Shocked" By Cohen

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date July 26, 2018

CNN: Rudy Giuliani responds to reports that Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton.

In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo, Giuliani likened the Trump-Cohen situation to George Washington and Benedict Arnold and Caesar and Brutus, adding the president was "completely shocked" by his former attorney's decision to leak tapes to the press.

"The man is a liar," Giuliani said of Cohen. "A proven liar. There's no way you're going to bring down the president of the United States on the testimony uncorroborated of a proven liar. I guarantee you this guy is a proven liar."

"We all make mistakes about people that turn out to be disloyal to us," he said. "You know, Benedict Arnold was disloyal to George Washington, the greatest president, right? So, anybody can Brutus and Caesar. I mean, you can go back to ancient classical literature and you can find people you trust and they turn out to be scoundrels. I saw the president when he first found out that he had been taped, and the president was completely shocked."

Giuliani denies Trump knew anything about the infamous Trump Tower meeting with Russians:

CUOMO: He says he didn't know about the meeting. Maybe he did.

GIULIANI: You've got to make a case against him first. You haven't made a case against him.

CUOMO: But that is going to be --

GIULIANI: No, it's not. It's not a case when a liar says something. This guy's testimony will be worth nothing.

CUOMO: Well, hold on a second. If the president knew about that meeting at Trump Tower in advance --

GIULIANI: He didn't.

CUOMO: If he did, it matters Rudy. It does.

GIULIANI: It does. It's not a smoking gun. It matters.

CUOMO: That's not the bar. It matters. It's proof, and it's also proof that he's been lying to the American people.

GIULIANI: He didn't know about it. I know that. I’ve been over this in great detail. I’ve talked to the corroborating witnesses. This guy is walking into a trap. But --

CUOMO: You've talked to the other people that were in the room?

GIULIANI: Of course I did. Months ago. A month ago. Two months ago.

CUOMO: And you know what they say the president was told and not told by his son?

GIULIANI: I know what they say, yes.

CUOMO: All right, fine. Then I accept your word at that. We'll see what you can do to prove it.

GIULIANI: And I know that he's walking into a situation in which there will be no corroboration.

Gosh almighty, why didn't he tape it? He taped everything else. He's got a hundred tapes. Why didn't he tape that?

Maybe he did. Maybe he's got a tape of that that he erased. Did you ever think of that?

CUOMO: No.

GIULIANI: You don't think he would erase a tape?

CUOMO: Maybe he would. I don't know.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   14:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: nolu chan (#99)

This just in....

Giuliani Admits Prep Session Before Trump Tower Meeting July 30, 2018 at 12:36 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 212 Comments

Rudy Giuliani told CNN that two days before the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton there was a planning meeting to prepare that meeting. It included Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and others.

That meeting would have been on June 7th, the same day Donald Trump teased an upcoming speech — which ultimately never happened — where he would reveal new information on the Clintons.

Josh Marshall: “If nothing else, it suggests that the Trump team took the planned encounter with the Russian government emissary much more seriously than they’ve suggested to date. And then there’s Rick Gates, Manafort’s deputy. As we know, Gates is now a cooperating witness. Big problem for the Trump Team, if he was at such a planning meeting.”

https://politicalwire.com/2018/07/30/giuliani-discloses-prep-session-before- trump-tower-meeting/

So there was this planning meeting, and DSD had no idea what was going on....

and.....he tweeted about soon having some dirt on HRC......

Sure - that checks out.

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-30   14:49:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Jameson (#102)

Giuliani Admits Prep Session Before Trump Tower Meeting July 30, 2018 at 12:36 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/rudy-giuliani-denies-second-trump-camp-meeting-with-russians-happened

Rudy Giuliani denies second Trump camp meeting with Russians happened

by Steven Nelson
Washington Examiner
July 30, 2018 01:18 PM

President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani says "the scoundrel" Michael Cohen alleges there was a meeting among top Trump campaign officials days ahead of an infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 with Russians teasing dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Giuliani said Monday the previously unreported meeting never happened, and that then-candidate Trump didn't attend it. Giuliani said during an unscheduled call to Fox News that he wanted to discuss the allegation first to control the public narrative.

"Why did I mention it? Because first of all, I thought it was going to come out. Second, my experience is that when you have something like this floating around, it comes out. I don't want to come out and be unreported when it originally comes out," Giuliani said.

[...]

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   15:12:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#108. To: nolu chan (#107)

"Why did I mention it? Because first of all, I thought it was going to come out.

Rudes moves his lips but DS Donnies words come out...

Lies after lies, after lies.

DS45 only hires the best people.....

Jameson  posted on  2018-07-30 15:26:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 107.

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