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Title: Trump tapping $12B to help farmers affected by tariffs
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ABC News
URL Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wir ... s-%20trading-partners-56776822
Published: Jul 24, 2018
Author: KEN THOMAS AND PAUL WISEMAN,
Post Date: 2018-07-24 15:00:56 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 11363
Comments: 59
The plan focuses on Midwest soybean producers and others targeted by retaliatory measures. The Agriculture Department said the proposal would include direct assistance for farmers, purchases of excess crops and trade promotion activities aimed at building new export markets. Officials said the plan would not require congressional approval and would come through the Commodity Credit Corporation, a wing of the department that addresses agricultural prices. "This is a short-term solution that will give President Trump and his administration the time to work on long-term trade deals," said Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue. Officials said the direct payments could help producers of soybeans, which have been hit hard by the Trump tariffs, along with sorghum, corn, wheat, cotton, dairy and farmers raising hogs. In Kansas City, meanwhile, Trump told a veterans convention that he was trying to renegotiate trade agreements that he said have hurt American workers, and he asked for patience ahead of key talks. "We're making tremendous progress. They're all coming. They don't want to have those tariffs put on them," Trump told the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention. (backslash)rump declared earlier Tuesday that "Tariffs are the greatest!" and threatened to impose additional penalties on U.S. trading partners as he prepared for negotiations with European officials at the White House. Tariffs are taxes on imports. They are meant to protect domestic businesses and put foreign competitors at a disadvantage. But the taxes also exact a toll on U.S. businesses and consumers, which pay more for imported products. The Trump administration has slapped tariffs on $34 billion in Chinese goods in a dispute over Beijing's high-tech industrial policies. China has retaliated with duties on soybeans and pork, affecting Midwest farmers in a region of the country that supported the president in his 2016 campaign. Trump has threatened to place penalty taxes on up to $500 billion in products imported from China, a move that would dramatically ratchet up the stakes in the trade dispute involving the globe's biggest economies. Poster Comment: The government announced a $12 billion plan Tuesday to assist farmers who have been hurt by President Donald Trump's trade disputes with China and other trading partners.
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#3. To: Gatlin, government subsidies (#0)
Twitter Government subsidies to farmers to buy votes, and screw Joe Sixpack the taxpayer. Bad policy, plain and simple.
Okay. Thanks for posting this and again showing yet another reason why Rand Paul made such a poor showing in his effort to become the Republican nominee for president and could have never been elected president. He goes off half-cocked and shoots off his big mouth without knowing Trump’s overall plan. The young whipper snapper smart ass had to drop out of the 2016 presidential race because he was short on cash and had NO support. He finished under 5 percent in the Iowa caucuses which was less than one quarter of the support his father had drawn four years earlier. Rand Paul tried desperately to pitch his libertarian- infused brand of conservatism as transformational for the Republican Party and he failed, He FAILED miserably. Now he has “ripped” Trump’s offering of aid to farmers WITHOUT knowing Trumps overall plan and how Trump will handle the grossly imbalanced trade fiasco. Rand THINKS he knows better what to do than Trump does? Give me a frigging break!!! Rand needs to sit down, shut up and let Trump play out his hand. If Trump is wrong, then Rand Paul can easily say “I told you so.” But neither Rand Paul nor anyone else should ever try to second guess Trump at any time. That has been proven often during the last 19 months. Bad policy, plain and simple.
It appears that your posting at the top has been heavily edited/redacted. Now missing are key points of truth. This scheme is to buy votes in swing states in danger of losing GOP seats in the upcoming elections, with government welfare wealth spread handouts. Anyone interested in the truth without Gatlin censorship can go directly to the site he posted and read the FULL article (without tater hacking) for themselves. Or.... The Trump administration plans to offer up to $12 billion in aid to farmers hit by tariffs on their goods, an emergency bailout intended to ease the pain caused by Trump's escalating trade war in key electoral states, Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue told reporters Tuesday.
It will no doubt surprise you to learn that the farmers were ALREADY hurt by the $11 billion impact of "illegal tariffs" that other countries have presently imposed on all US agriculture exports….long before Trump placed his tariff program in effect. You need to realize that this emergency aid package was already necessary and in the under consideration to mitigate the hardships farmers have already been undergoing from the tariffs imposed on their products by other countries. Canada charges the U.S. a 270% tariff on Dairy Products! That is ridiculous....absolutely RIDICULOUS. It has been reported that this aid package is a short-term solution and is necessary to give Trump time to work out long term trade agreements that will be a stabilized benefit to agriculture….and all sectors of our economy. So, you taking every opportunity to rail Trump at every opportunity you see or can conjure up is helping nothing. You need to sit down, shut up and let’s see what Trump WILL do….that is not CAN do. There …
Read the article at the link that you posted. It does NOT match the text that you posted. Gatlin has been proven a liar by his own evidence. DONE!
The authors of the article posted 9 paragraphs of text. You need to be specific. What doesn’t match?
In the first sentence you call China a trading partner "China and other trading partners". The online version says "China and other countries". The second sentence, I can't find online. It goes on like that. Maybe you posted the wrong link, to go along with the text from another sites story on this? Things just don't line up with your text.
Maybe you posted the wrong link, to go along with the text from another sites story on this? Things just don't line up with your text. If the link still doesn’t work for you, then here is a new source with exactly the same ariicle for you to try: If that link does not work then I have other links to feed to you. Let me know and then you can proceed to tell me where the disagreement is.
If the link still doesn’t work for you, then here is a new source with exactly the same ariicle for you to try: https://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2018/07/feds_plan_aid _for_farmers_hurt.html If that link does not work then I have other links to feed to you. That's the link that you posted, but the article is very different from the text that you posted along with it. Ken Thomas and Paul Wiseman do NOT call China a trading partner. Why are you lying to smear these people? Your original link at the top works just fine to prove that you're a liar. There is NO problem accessing the link that YOU posted. Except that the story there does not match what YOU posted. Your Oregon Live link above, is NOT by Ken Thomas and Paul Wiseman, you won't find those names on that page. That commie propaganda was authored by The Associated Press. Another lie by Gatlin. Please don't post any more links for my benefit, I'm really not interested in hearing any more of your lies.
#20. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, misterwhite, GrandIsland, hondo68, Everybody (#16)
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Your original link at the top works just fine to prove that you're a liar. There is NO problem accessing the link that YOU posted. Except that the story there does not match what YOU posted. Please go to this thread titled: Trump tapping $12B to help farmers affected by tariffs. Then click on the link I posted there and see if it goes to the story I posted there. Hondo says it does not. I have checked it multiple times and the link always leads to the posted story for me. Please also ping hondo when you post the result of yout test back to me. I will also be pleased to hear from any others I pinged who check the link. Thank you. I don’t understand why hondo is calling me a liar. If I did something wrong, or said something wrong, and when I am shown where it is wrong….then I will sincerely apologize to hondo.
I redacted NOTHING. The story was updated. There was a LOGICAL explanation. You had no reason to call me a liar. Here is the updated story: However, some farm-state Republicans quickly dismissed the plan, declaring that farmers want markets for their crops, not payoffs for lost sales and lower prices. The Agriculture Department said it would tap an existing program to provide billions in direct payments to farmers and ranchers hurt by foreign retaliation to Trump's tariffs. Watch Now VIDEO: Trump set to bail out farmers affected by retaliatory tariffs Trump set to bail out farmers affected by retaliatory tariffs With congressional elections coming soon, the government action underscored administration concern about damage to U.S. farmers from Trump's trade tariffs and the potential for losing House and Senate seats in the Midwest and elsewhere. The administration said the program was just temporary. "This is a short-term solution that will give President Trump and his administration the time to work on long-term trade deals," said Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue as administration officials argued that the plan was not a "bailout" of the nation's farmers. But that provided little solace to rank-and-file Republicans, who said the tariffs are simply taxes and warned the action would open a Pandora's box for other sectors of the economy. "I want to know what we're going to say to the automobile manufacturers and the petrochemical manufacturers and all the other people who are being hurt by tariffs," said Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "You've got to treat everybody the same." Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., said the plan would spend billions on "gold crutches," adding, "America's farmers don't want to be paid to lose — they want to win by feeding the world. This administration's tariffs and bailouts aren't going to make America great again, they're just going to make it 1929 again." The program is expected to start taking effect around Labor Day. Officials said the direct payments could help producers of soybeans, which have been hit hard by retaliation to the Trump tariffs, along with sorghum, corn, wheat, cotton, dairy and farmers raising hogs. The food purchased from farmers would include some types of fruits, nuts, rice, legumes, dairy products, beef and pork, officials said. Trump did not specifically reference the plan during a speech to veterans in Kansas City, but asked for patience as he attempts to renegotiate trade agreements that he said have hurt American workers. "We're making tremendous progress. They're all coming. They don't want to have those tariffs put on them," Trump told the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention. "We're opening up markets. You watch what's going to happen. Just be a little patient." Agriculture officials said they would not need congressional approval and the money would come through the Commodity Credit Corporation, a wing of the department that addresses agricultural prices. The officials said payments couldn't be calculated until after harvests come in. Brad Karmen, the USDA's assistant deputy administrator for farm programs, noted that the wheat harvest is already in, so wheat farmers could get payments sooner than other growers. Soybeans are likely to be the largest sector affected by the programs. Soybean prices have plunged 18 percent in the past two months. Trump declared earlier Tuesday that "Tariffs are the greatest!" and threatened to impose additional penalties on U.S. trading partners as he prepared for negotiations with European officials at the White House. Later Tuesday, he tweeted: "I have an idea for them. Both the U.S. and the E.U. drop all Tariffs, Barriers and Subsidies! That would finally be called Free Market and Fair Trade! Hope they do it, we are ready - but they won't!" Tariffs are taxes on imports. They are meant to protect domestic businesses and put foreign competitors at a disadvantage. But the taxes also exact a toll on U.S. businesses and consumers, which pay more for imported products. The Trump administration has slapped tariffs on $34 billion in Chinese goods in a dispute over Beijing's high-tech industrial policies. China has retaliated with duties on soybeans and pork, affecting Midwest farmers in a region of the country that supported the president in his 2016 campaign. Trump has threatened to place penalty taxes on up to $500 billion in products imported from China, a move that would dramatically ratchet up the stakes in the trade dispute involving the globe's biggest economies. The moves have been unsettling to lawmakers with districts dependent upon manufacturers and farmers affected by the retaliatory tariffs. Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., said the proposal was raised a month ago when senators visited the White House for a broad discussion on trade. He said the lawmakers told the president "that our farmers want markets, and not really a payment from government. And he said, 'I'm surprised, I've never heard of anybody who didn't want a payment from government.'" Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who has been critical of the president in the past, said the tariffs "are a massive tax increase on American consumers and businesses, and instead of offering welfare to farmers to solve a problem they themselves created, the administration should reverse course and end this incoherent policy." Republican Sen. Charles Grassley, whose family operates a farm in eastern Iowa, said the administration's move was "encouraging for the short term" but farmers needed "markets and opportunity, not government handouts." The Agriculture Department predicted before the trade fights that U.S. farm income would drop this year to $60 billion, or half the $120 billion of five years ago. Mark Martinson, who raises crops and cattle in north-central North Dakota and is president of the U.S. Durum Growers Association, said the $12 billion figure "sounds huge" but there are many farmers in need. "I don't think this will cover us for a very long time — and it might not even buy me a tank of diesel. I think it will only put out the fire a little bit." "We are just kind of being played," said Tom Giessel, who was cultivating his fields when he stopped his tractor to take a cell phone call from a reporter seeking his reaction to the plan. Giessel, who grows wheat and corn near the western Kansas community of Larned, said he was "glad they are trying to be doing something, but I don't know when the day is over how much difference it is going to make. The underlying problem is still there." The imposition of punishing tariffs on imported goods has been a favored tactic by Trump, but it has prompted U.S. partners to retaliate, creating risks for the economy. Trump has placed tariffs on imported steel and aluminum, saying they pose a threat to U.S. national security, an argument that allies such as the European Union and Canada reject. He has also threatened to slap tariffs on imported cars, trucks and auto parts, potentially targeting imports that last year totaled $335 billion. The president is meeting with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker on Wednesday. The U.S. and its European allies are meeting as the dispute threatens to spread to automobile production. —— Associated Press writers Jill Colvin, Kevin Freking and Matthew Daly in Washington, James MacPherson in Bismarck, North Dakota, and Roxana Hegeman in Wichita, Kansas, contributed.
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#5. To: hondo68 (#3)
Tariffs are taxes that punish American consumers and producers. If tariffs punish farmers, the answer is not welfare for farmers the answer is remove the tariffs.
Rand Paul said this, eh? Government subsidies to farmers to buy votes, and screw Joe Sixpack the taxpayer.
Since you “seem” to know so much and since you are so well versed in all aspects and ramifications of this newly stated Trump policy that you can declare it plain and simply bad…will you therefore now please tell everyone what Trump’s overall policy and plan is on this matter is?
#6. To: Gatlin, censored the article, redacted by Deep State operative, swamp critter (#5)
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Trade war bailout: Trump administration plans to offer $12 billion in emergency aid for farmers hurt by tariffs
[Excerpt, bold emphasis added]
#7. To: hondo68 (#6)
That’s NO missing key point of the truth. That’s pure SPECUALTION on your part that you are trying unsuccessfully to PASS off as the TRUTH. You want to deal in the truth….then PROVE to me your statement is true and not merely a conjecture on your part or that of someone else you read someplace.….PROVE IT. It appears that your posting at the top has been heavily edited/redacted. Now missing are key points of truth.
If you want to make a serious post to me so that we may exchange ideas, you best not start off with BULLSHIT. (Edited) at the end of the “Ping Line” does NOT give the “appearance” of a post being heavily edited/redacted. When anyone makes a one letter change in one word, it will result in the same word (Edited) appearing at the end of the ping line. Your post also shows (Edited) which tells me absolutely NOTHING. So, AGAIN, stop with the BULLSHIT. This scheme is to buy votes in swing states in danger of losing GOP seats in the upcoming elections, with government welfare wealth spread handouts.
#8. To: Gatlin (#7)
….PROVE IT.
#11. To: hondo68 (#8)
Read the article at the link that you posted. It does NOT match the text that you posted.
I posted eleven paragraohs of text.
#13. To: Gatlin, China tater trading partner (#11)
#14. To: hondo68 (#13)
In the first sentence you call China a trading partner "China and other trading partners". The online version says "China and other countries".
I don’t understand. You say that I call China a trading partner. I never did any such thing. You are quoting the first sentence from the posted article written by Ken Thomas and Paul Wiseman. That statement is theirs, not mine. The second sentence, I can't find online. It goes on like that.
I have no problem with the link posted. I have clicked on it a number of times and I go directly to the story I posted. I do however believe you when you say that you are having a problem. Try the link again to see if it now works for you.’
https://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2018/07/feds_plan_aid _for_farmers_hurt.html
#16. To: Gatlin, Associated Press of Oregon (#14)
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You are quoting the first sentence from the posted article written by Ken Thomas and Paul Wiseman.
Replies to Comment # 16. That's the link that you posted, but the article is very different from the text that you posted along with it.
Stone, I need some help here….please.
#22. To: hondo68, A K A Stone, misterwhie, nolu chan, GrandIsland (#16)
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Anyone interested in the truth without Gatlin censorship can go directly to the site he posted and read the FULL article (without tater hacking) for themselves.
Ah, I understand what you are saying now. The artilce has been updated since I posted the original by different authors. - The Trump administration announced Tuesday it will provide $12 billion in emergency relief to ease the pain of American farmers slammed by President Donald Trump's escalating trade disputes with China and other countries.
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