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Rand Paul's (R-KY) suggestion to pull former CIA director John Brennan's security clearance as well as the security clearance for former CIA director Michael Hayden and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Source: CNN Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Gatlin (#0) Who cares? Once any person that has been relieved of duty of their former post, they maintain the security clearance for five years unless otherwise found to be incapable of responsible action. Once they have been relieved of a former duty, they can not have capability for renewed information unless a new duty post has provided a "need to know." Trump has made a simple issue into another clusterfuck designed for the press. None of those idiots, Trump is attacking already are restrained of USA information; if they appear in publick spouting their personal views, nothing can be done. Trump fuckedupped again. buckeroo  posted on  2018-07-23   21:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: buckeroo, Gatlin (#1) Who cares? Once any person that has been relieved of duty of their former post, they maintain the security clearance for five years unless otherwise found to be incapable of responsible action. And it takes administrative time to pull a security clearance. But no one is entitled to access to any level of classified material just beause he has a certain clearance. A clearance only makes one eligible to received an access authorization from the custodian of record for the information. An access authorization may be given up to the highest level for which one holds a security clearance, and a need to know. They should be talking about pulling access authorizations which can be done same day. There is adequate evidence to pull the access authorization of Rod Rosenstein. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-23   23:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: buckeroo (#1) Trump may pull ex-CIA directors' clearance Who cares? Once any person that has been relieved of duty of their former post, they maintain the security clearance for five years unless otherwise found to be incapable of responsible action. Once they have been relieved of a former duty, they can not have capability for renewed information unless a new duty post has provided a "need to know." Trump has made a simple issue into another clusterfuck designed for the press. None of those idiots, Trump is attacking already are restrained of USA information; if they appear in publick spouting their personal views, nothing can be done. Trump fuckedupped again. The main thing, and a most important thing, you omitted is once you leave your job, you automatically lose your access to classified information. You are correct in that you do not automatically lose your security clearance. It may remain current if no incidents or flags are placed in your file. I don’t know where you got the five years from. You have two years to find yourself another cleared position, assuming that your background investigation hasn’t expired. What Trump is doing is mainly symbolic....it’s a “backhand to the face”. And a much needed one at that. But the lack of a security clearance will definitely affect their future employment potential. They will need to go through the lengthy process all over again. Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-23   23:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: nolu chan (#2) buckeroo: Once they have been relieved of a former duty, they can not have capability for renewed information unless a new duty post has provided a "need to know." nolu chan: But no one is entitled to access to any level of classified material just beause he has a certain clearance. A clearance only makes one eligible to received an access authorization from the custodian of record for the information. An access authorization may be given up to the highest level for which one holds a security clearance, and a need to know. I am confident that your redundant statement was unnecessary. They should be talking about pulling access authorizations which can be done same day. There is adequate evidence to pull the access authorization of Rod Rosenstein. He is still actively receiving a paycheck and federal employee benefits working as the United States Deputy Attorney General in the Justice Department. Are you putting the cart before the donkey? buckeroo  posted on  2018-07-23   23:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: nolu chan (#2) (Edited) ... pulling access authorizations ... I thought that was an automatic administrative procedure when they left the job. From what you say, I guess it isn’t automatically done and they still have access authorization to all classified information they had access to while they held office. Is this right? Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-23   23:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: buckeroo (#4) White House announced that they want to pull six security clearances so far, Comey, Clapper, Hayden, Rice, McCabe, Brennan. Rand says that Brennan should have a restraining order to, not get within 10,000 yards of government. Hondo68  posted on  2018-07-24   0:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: hondo68 (#6) Comey, Clapper, Hayden, Rice, McCabe, Brennan. As a personal opinion, all of these so-called top-notch ex-federal government employees should be in prison; just as their Ms. hindass, Clinton. buckeroo  posted on  2018-07-24   0:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: buckeroo (#4) I am confident that your redundant statement was unnecessary. I am confident it is not. People like Brennan and Clapper and Hillary receive special treatment where they keep the clearance and are given access to some information. Te common excuse is that they can help their replacement. Rosenstein has a clearance and an access authorization, and he signed off on that ridiculous FISA Warrant application. There is plentiful reason to pull his access authorization. Why wait until he gets caught committing more damage? nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-24   2:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: hondo68 (#6) White House announced that they want to pull six security clearances so far, Comey, Clapper, Hayden, Rice, McCabe, Brennan. I would add Rosenstein and consider looking at Mueller. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-24   2:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Gatlin (#3) They will need to go through the lengthy process all over again. You just spoke the magic words. Don't you remember what it was like getting a security clearance? Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-07-24   7:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Gatlin (#5) I thought that was an automatic administrative procedure when they left the job. In the military it was, except for select senior officials. When the privileged few leave their positions, they are given a new access authorization so the wonder and the majesty of their knowledge and experience is not lost. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-24   12:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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