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Title: “Democratic Institutions?” – 10 Lessons From History That Will Destroy Your Trust in the CIA
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Published: Jul 20, 2018
Author: offGuardian.org
Post Date: 2018-07-23 13:22:13 by Deckard
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This article was originally published by offGuardian. *** In the hysterical wake of the Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, President Donald Trump was roundly criticised in the media for taking the side of a “hostile state” over his own intelligence agencies. The Guardian referred to Mueller as a “heroic marine” who Trump disbelieved in favour of a “Russian dictator”. In the past, when Trump has criticised the FBI, CIA or NSA he has been accused of “undermining faith in our institutions”. He’s been blamed for a collapse of trust in the government. But was this trust ever earned? At every corner, we are urged to simply believe what we are told. Whether it is about believing Porton Down and MI6 about “novichok”, or believing the White Helmets about Sarin, or believing the FBI about “collusion”, we are presented with no facts, just assertions from authority. Those who question those assertions are deemed “bots” at best or “traitors” at worst. Well here, fellow traitors, are the Top Ten reasons to question anything and everything the CIA – or any intelligence agency – has ever told you. 10. OPERATION PAPERCLIP – we’ll start with an oldie but a goody. In 1945, as the allies were advancing on Berlin from both sides, American Army Intelligence (this was before the CIA were founded) were “capturing” (read: recruiting) over 1600 Nazi scientists and engineers. Most famous of them was Werhner von Braun…sorry, SS Sturmbannführer von Braun. Whilst Allied soldiers died in the name of defeating fascism, the CIA’s predecessors were actively recruiting Nazis to come and build bombs for them. 9. OPERATION NORTHWOODS – The original, and important, precedent for accusations that the CIA et al. might engage in false-flag attacks. Operation Northwoods was a joint CIA/Pentagon proposal designed around the idea of escalating a war with Cuba by stoking public anger: The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The idea was vetoed by President Kennedy. Fifty years later, the CIA and Pentagon still very much exist, but there’s no longer a Kennedy there to veto their more psychopathic ideas. Funny how that worked out. 8. ALLENDE COUP – In 1970 Salvador Allende was elected to the Chilean Presidency. A Physician and dedicated socialist, Allende was the first socialist president elected in South America. The Nixon-lead government of the United States immediately implemented “economic warfare” (as they do, to this day, against Cuba, Venezuela and others). The economic warfare did not work, and in 1973 Allende’s socialist party increased their parliamentary majority. In response, the US “assisted” (read: instructed) the Chilean military in carrying out a coup. Allende allegedly shot himself, and Augusto Pinochet was placed in power as the first dictator in Chile’s history. Pinochet was a fascist who executed Chilean “subversives” by the thousand…and was the darling of Western leaders. 7. MOSADDEGH COUP – I could just copy-and-paste the above paragraph and the change the names for this entry. In 1953, the Prime Minister of Iran – Mohammad Mosaddegh, a democratic socialist – wanted to audit the income of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company with an eye to limiting foreign control of Iran’s oil. Within a few months, a joint US/UK operation – Operation Ajax – had removed Mosaddegh’s elected government and turned over full control of the state to the Shah. He was a brutal absolute monarch, but the question of Western control of Iran’s enormous oil reserves wasn’t raised again under his leadership. 6. OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD – A CIA operation that you could deduce existed, even if were not proven….and it is proven. Mockingbird was the CIA project to coerce, train, control or plant CIA-friendly journalists in major news networks all across the country and in every medium. It’s existence is no longer disputed, thanks to FOIA releases of internal memos. Mockingbird was allegedly shut down in 1976 – just after its existence was leaked – then CIA director George HW Bush claiming: …effective immediately, CIA will not enter into any paid or contractual relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any U.S. news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station.” If you’re willing to stake anything on the word of a Bush, well, good luck with that. It’s a decision that flies in the face of historical evidence. Remember this one when you hear about the need to trust the CIA from some pundit on CNN or MSNBC. 5. MASS SURVEILLANCE – It’s not really talked about much these days – what with the vast majority of the media and huge sections of the supposedly “anti-establishment” progressive left marching in-step with the Deep State – but the NSA spied on the whole world. The whole world. We know this to be true because an employee of the Deep State – Edward Snowden – leaked the information. When challenged on this issue, representatives of the NSA and CIA lied. They lied to the public, and they lied to congress. When they were proven to have lied, they carefully qualified their lies. A qualified lie is still a lie. There is no indication they have stopped this illegal surveillance, but they may have passed laws to make it legal. 4. NAYIRAH – A classic of “atrocity propaganda”, Nayirah should be required reading material for anybody looking to hop on a pro-war bandwagon. Nayirah – who originally gave only her first name – was a fifteen year old girl who testified in front of the United States Congress. She claimed to be a volunteer from at a Kuwaiti hospital, and to be an eye-witness to Iraqi soldiers throwing Kuwaiti babies out of incubators and leaving them to die: I volunteered at the al-Addan hospital with twelve other women who wanted to help as well. I was the youngest volunteer. The other women were from twenty to thirty years old. While I was there I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor. It was horrifying. It was later revealed, not only that her full name was Nayirah al-Sabah and she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador, but that she had never volunteered at a hospital and had seen no babies, soldiers or incubators. The whole thing was a fiction. A fiction paid for by the “Citizens of Free Kuwait”, an NGO (and obvious CIA front) set up to lobby the US to intervene in the Iraq-Kuwait war. By the time this fiction was revealed it was too late, and the US had launched Operation Desert Storm….which was, of course, the entire point of the exercise Remember this, when you hear about Assad gassing children or bombing kittens. 3. COINTELPRO – The FBI’s long running (and sometimes illegal) COunter INTELligence PROgram, COINTELPRO was a series of domestic projects carried out by the FBI (with cooperation from other agencies), over decades, with the aim of “surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations”. These political organizations included anti-Vietnam protestors, civil rights groups (including both MLK and Malcolm X), socialists, Communist Party USA, environmental groups and feminist organizations. The brief for these “disruptions” came straight from J. Edgar Hoover who wanted the FBI to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise Neutralize”people he perceived to be enemies of the state. The capital N in “neutralise” is no accident, as the FBI was implicated in the deaths of several Black Panther leaders, including Fred Hampton. COINTELPRO didn’t just involve undermining left-wing groups, but also creating right-wing groups: The FBI also financed, armed, and controlled an extreme right-wing group of former Minutemen, transforming it into a group called the Secret Army Organization that targeted groups, activists, and leaders involved in the Anti-War Movement, using both intimidation and violent acts. Whether this was done to actually push a right-wing agenda, create a fake threat to step up police powers, or just sow division and chaos, is unclear. But it definitely happened. Much like MKUltra (below), COINTELPRO was “officially shut down”, not long after the public found out it existed. However, the accidental outing of undercover policeman at a rally in Oakland, and recent relaxation of the laws limiting the FBI’s powers, means that COINTELPRO – or a modern successor – is very likely still a thing. The aim of COINTELPRO was to “Neutralize” anti-establishment political figures – the vast majority of targets were left wingers – through “smearing individuals and groups using forged documents and by planting false reports in the media”. Remember that when you see Rand Paul called a “traitor” on twitter, or read about “Russian collusion”, or see Jeremy Corbyn branded an anti-Semite. Remember that it is proven that the Deep State – our trusted intelligence agencies – pay people to plant false stories and discredit political opponents. 2. PROJECT MKULTRA – It might sound like something from a 70s sci-fi TV series, but it is unfortunately real. MKUltra was a series of (illegal) experiments carried out by the CIA from 1953 until it was *cough* “officially halted” in 1973 (just after its existence was leaked). The experiments were wide-ranging, achieved varied levels of success, but pretty uniformly brutal and unethical. They included, but were not limited too: – Giving LSD to unsuspecting soldiers to see what happened. We’ll never know the full range of studies, or how they were carried out, because in 1973 Richard Helms, then director of the CIA, ordered all MKUltra files destroyed. Only a fraction of them survive, thanks to FOIA requests, but it’s reasonable to assume they destroyed the worst parts and kept the more quote-unquote innocent files. The CIA were not unique in this regard either, MKUltra was their baby – but there were parallel projects in other quarters of the deep state. Army Intelligence had Edgewood Arsenal, whilst the Department of Defense had Project 112. All these projects were “officially halted” in the early 70s…just around the time the public found out they existed. The CIA (et al.) have strongly denied that these experiments and projects have ever been continued in any way, shape or form…but if you’d asked them in 1969, they would have denied they had ever taken place at all. 1. THE IRAQ WAR – This might not be the most callous, the most dangerous, the most recent, the most secret or the most insidious of the items on this list, nevertheless it is – must be – number one…because it is the most brazen. The war was started in the name of “weapons of mass destruction” that everyone – everyone – knew never existed. They all knew the truth, but they lied. The President lied, the vice-president lied, the secretary of defence lied, the secretary of state lied. The Prime Minister lied, the defence minister lied, the foreign minister lied. They lied to the press, the people and the UN. The CIA, the NSA, the FBI – then headed by the “heroic marine” Robert Mueller – they lied too. The press repeated these lies, without question (see: Operation Mockingbird). They weren’t “misinformed”, they weren’t “mistaken”. They lied, they lied repeatedly – and provably – and they did it in order to start a war, make money, take control, spread influence. One million Iraqis died. Our ruling class is peopled with psychopaths and war criminals, who have so little regard for the people they lie to they recycle the same childishly simple falsehoods to further their evil agenda again and again and again. They tried the same in Libya…it worked again. They tried again in Syria…luckily, it didn’t work there. Our “democratic institutions” lie to start wars. There’s no reason to think they aren’t doing – or wouldn’t do – the same thing about Iran, North Korea…or Russia. That’s our list, and there’s really only one lesson you can take away from it: These people, agencies and institutions deserve no trust, have earned no trust and have abused every micron of trust ever placed in them. To suggest we have a duty to believe them – or that they have ever done anything to serve the public good – is to live in a dream world. This list is not a full catalogue of Deep State crimes, it would be 1000s of entries long if it were, but these ten are important. They’re important because they are admitted, proven and beyond debate. They are important because they show the many facets of dishonesty, hypocrisy and abuses of power that Intelligence agencies engage in, and they are important because they form the best riposte to the disingenuous clamour for “trust” in our “democratic institutions”. Never trust the CIA, they have proved they don’t deserve it.
– Mass hypnosis and mass suggestion
– Torture studies
– Studies on the effect of verbal and/or sexual abuse
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Bullshit KGB propaganda...
That's what all of the MKUltra's say.
National security is a gritty business. The United States saved the world from the twin threats of Fascism and Communism. Why then, precisely, should we let control of Iran's - or anybody else's - oil reserves pass out of our control? Yes, we certainly worked to overthrow governments - who can dispute it? But we did not do so SIMPLY because the government was adopting policies that were too "socialistic" for our tastes. We didn't intervene in Scandinavia, or France, or Germany, or Benelux, or Canada, or any of the other countries that have adopted socialized medicine, or nationalized banks or other industries. We did not overthrow governments because of their internal reorganization plans, as long as those plans were within the bounds of reason and did not threaten the wholesale nationalization of US interests. Trouble was, socialists back in the day were full blown ideologues. The ones we overthrew were not simply interested in providing socialized medicine or a government-controlled banking system - we did not overthrow countries for trying to become France. No, the ones we overthrew were the ideologues who not only planned to nationalize portions of the economy, but to ally themselves with the Soviet Union, our mortal enemy. As long as a nation did not threaten to become a base of operations for our enemy, or outright steal large amounts of US-owned property, we did not go kill leaders and overthrow governments. When they were hellbent on inviting in the USSR and becoming part of the expansion of world socialism under the Soviet nuclear umbrella, we acted. This was quite rational. It was the right policy to protect the free world. Errors were made, of course, errare humanum est. But most of those things on that list make sense in light of the global war against Communism.
An Intelligence Agency is an effective instrument of a national power. Aggressive intelligence is its primary weapon to destabilize the target. Indeed, no one knows what the intelligence agencies actually do so figuring out who the best intelligence service is can be difficult. The very nature of intelligence often means that the successes will not be public knowledge for years, whereas failures or controversial operations will be taken to the press. It’s a thankless situation. Still, from what little has emerged, one can have an idea of some of the better intelligence services out there, with the understanding that this is based on incomplete data. Australian Secret Intelligence Service is the Australian government intelligence agency responsible for collecting foreign intelligence, undertaking counter- intelligence activities and cooperation with other intelligence agencies overseas. For more than twenty years, the existence of the agency was a secret even from its own government. Its primary responsibility is gathering intelligence from mainly Asian and Pacific interests using agents stationed in a wide variety of areas. Its main purpose, as with most agencies, is to protect the country’s political and economic interests while ensuring safety for the people of Australia against national threats. Research and Analysis Wing is India’s external intelligence agency. It was formed in September 1968, after the newly independent Republic of India was faced with 2 consecutive wars, the Sino-Indian war of 1962 and the India-Pakistani war of 1965, as it was evident that a credible intelligence gathering setup was lacking. Its primary function is collection of external intelligence, counter- terrorism and covert operations. In addition, it is responsible for obtaining and analyzing information about foreign governments, corporations, and persons, in order to advise Indian foreign policymakers. Until the creation of R&AW, the Intelligence Bureau handled both internal and external intelligence. Directorate General for External Security is France’s external intelligence agency. Operating under the direction of the French ministry of defence, the agency works alongside the DCRI (the Central Directorate of Interior Intelligence) in providing intelligence and national security, notably by performing paramilitary and counterintelligence operations abroad. The General Directorate for External Security (DGSE) of France has a rather short history compared to other intelligence agencies in the region. It was officially founded in 1982 from a multitude of prior intelligence agencies in the country. Its primary focus is to gather intelligence from foreign sources to assist in military and strategic decisions for the country. The agency employs more than five thousand people. The Federal Security Service of Russian Federation (FSD) is the main domestic security agency of the Russian Federation and the main successor agency of the Soviet-era Cheka, NKVD and KGB. The FSB is involved in counter-intelligence, internal and border security, counter-terrorism, and surveillance. Its headquarters are on Lubyanka Square, downtown Moscow, the same location as the former headquarters of the KGB. All law enforcement and intelligence agencies in Russia work under the guidance of FSB, if needed. For example, the GRU, spetsnaz and Internal Troops detachments of Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs work together with the FSB in Chechnya. The FSB is responsible for internal security of the Russian state, counterespionage, and the fight against organized crime, terrorism, and drug smuggling. The number of FSB personnel and its budget remain state secrets, although the budget was reported to jump nearly 40% in 2006. The Bundesnachrichtendienst is the foreign intelligence agency of the German government, under the control of the Chancellor’s Office. The BND acts as an early warning system to alert the German government to threats to German interests from abroad. It depends heavily on wiretapping and electronic surveillance of international communications. It collects and evaluates information on a variety of areas such as international terrorism, WMD proliferation and illegal transfer of technology, organized crime, weapons and drug trafficking, money laundering, illegal migration and information warfare. As Germany’s only overseas intelligence service, the BND gathers both military and civil intelligence. Ministry of State Security is the security agency of the People’s Republic of China. It is also probably the Chinese government’s largest and most active foreign intelligence agency, though it is also involved in domestic security matters. Article 4 of the Criminal Procedure Law gives the MSS the same authority to arrest or detain people as regular police for crimes involving state security with identical supervision by the procuratorates and the courts. It is headquartered near the Ministry of Public Security of the People’s Republic of China in Beijing. According to Liu Fuzhi, Secretary-General of the Commission for Politics and Law under the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China and Minister of Public Security, the mission of the MSS is to ensure “the security of the state through effective measures against enemy agents, spies, and counter-revolutionary activities designed to sabotage or overthrow China’s socialist system.” One of the primary missions of the MSS is undoubtedly to gather foreign intelligence from targets in various countries overseas. Many MSS agents are said to have operated in the Greater China region (Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) and to have integrated themselves into the world’s numerous overseas Chinese communities. At one point, nearly 120 agents who had been operating under non-official cover in the U.S., Canada, Western and Northern Europe, and Japan as businessmen, bankers, scholars, and journalists were recalled to China, a fact that demonstrates the broad geographical scope of MSS agent coverage. The Mossad is responsible for intelligence collection and covert operations including paramilitary activities. It is one of the main entities in the Israeli Intelligence Community, along with Aman (military intelligence) and Shin Bet (internal security), but its director reports directly to the Prime Minister. The list of its successes is long. Israel’s intelligence agency is most famous for having taken out a number of PLO operatives in retaliation for the attack that killed eleven Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic games in Munich. However, this agency has other success to its name, including the acquisition of a MiG-21 prior to the Six-Day war of 1967 and the theft of the plans for the Mirage 5 after the deal with France went sour. Mossad also assisted the United States in supporting Solidarity in Poland during the 1980s. With the lengthiest track record of success, the best know Intelligence so far on the scale of records is ISI. The Inter-Services Intelligence was created as an independent unit in 1948 in order to strengthen the performance of Pakistan’s Military Intelligence during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947. Its success in achieving its goal without leading to a full scale invasion of Pakistan by the Soviets is a feat unmatched by any other through out the intelligence world. KGB, The best of its time, failed to counter ISI and protect Soviet interests in Central Asia. It has had 0 double agents or Defectors through out its history, considering that in light of the whole war campaign it carried out from money earned by selling drugs bought from the very people it was bleeding, The Soviets. It has protected its Nuclear Weapons since formed and it has foiled Indian attempts to attain ultimate supremacy in the South-Asian theatres through internal destabilization of India. It is above All laws in its host country Pakistan ‘A State, with in a State’. Its policies are made ‘outside’ of all other institutions with the exception of The Army. Its personnel have never been caught on camera. Its is believed to have the highest number of agents worldwide, close to 10,000. The most striking thing is that its one of the least funded Intelligence agency out of the top 10. The British have had a long public perception of an effective intelligence agency (due to the success of the unrealistic, yet entertaining, James Bond movies). This perception matches reality. MI6, the British equivalent to the CIA, has had two big advantages in staying effective: The British Official Secrets Act and D notices can often prevent leaks (which have been the bane of the CIA’s existence). Some stories have emerged. In the Cold War, MI6 recruited Oleg Penkovsky, who played a key part in the favorable resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Oleg Gordievski, who operated for a decade before MI6 extracted him via Finland. The British were even aware of Norwood’s activities, but made the decision not to tip their hand. MI6 also is rumored to have sabotaged the Tu-144 supersonic airliner program by altering documents and making sure they fell into the hands of the KGB. CIA is the largest of the intelligence agencies and is responsible for gathering data from other countries that could impact U.S. policy. It is a civilian intelligence agency of the United States government responsible for providing national security intelligence to senior United States policymakers. The CIA also engages in covert activities at the request of the President of the United States of America. The CIA’s primary function is to collect information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals, and to advise public policymakers. The agency conducts covert operations and paramilitary actions, and exerts foreign political influence through its Special Activities Division. It has failed to control terrorism activities including 9/11, Not even a single top level Al-Queda leader captured own its own in the past 9 years – ‘they missed 1 Million’ Soviet troops marching into Afghanistan’. Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction, Have the found them yet? -Number of defectors/ double agents numbers close to a thousand. On 50th anniversary of CIA, President Clinton said ”By necessity, the American people will never know the full story of your courage. Indeed, no one knows that what CIA really does”. Highly funded and technologically most advanced Intelligence set-up in the world.
Heavens forbid to Betsy, I would never want you to think for one minute that I claimed the information was authored by me or that I plagiarized the information. Therefore, will you please....PLEASE.... permit me to now post the source of this information by giving attrition to this source: https://www.smashinglists.com/10-best-intelligence-agencies-in- the-world/ There... You may now of course still feel free to write a long three paragraph nebulas and insignificant rant on trying to tell everyone what a real BAD BOY I was to overlook this. And be sure to again ping your disciple friend in your perverted circle jerk to read it and join in with you to severely chastise me again. Please do so and be sure not to forget to also ping me so I can have my morning gut-busting laugh. LMAO ...
No attribution, but it reads like this disinfo piece was written by YOU! CIA the #1 name to trust? LOL
Intelligence failures get enormous attention [RIGHT, Deckard?] while intelligence successes are often unsung and unappreciated. The analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency in 1967 predicted the outcome of the June war well in advance and gave President Lyndon Johnson confidence that Israel was never in jeopardy. It was an analytic triumph. When the crisis began in May 1967, the CIA’s Office of Current Intelligence (OCI) had already created a task force to monitor and assess developments between Israel and its Arab neighbors because of the steady buildup of tensions earlier in the year. On the day after Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran, May 23, President Johnson asked the Director of Central Intelligence Richard Helms for an immediate assessment of the likely outcome of a war. Helms presented the OCI assessment only a few hours after LBJ’s request. It concluded that Israel could successfully defend itself against any combination of Arab enemies if attacked simultaneously on all sides and initiate a major offensive as well. Helms assured the president and his national security team that Israel was not in danger and would win any military conflict. Israel had battlefield dominance over the Arabs, especially in the air. Two days later, the Israeli government provided its own intelligence assessment to Washington, which painted a much more alarming threat. Helms had his analysts check the Israeli military intelligence judgments. Within five hours, they came back with an appraisal concluding that the Israeli analysis was not a serious intelligence estimate but a political gambit designed to influence the American administration. Its calculations of Arab, especially Egyptian strength, were not accurate. The agency also judged that the Soviet Union would stay out of the war. It noted that the Russians had provided considerable support for Egypt’s five years- old war in Yemen against Saudi-backed royalist insurgents, but argued that Moscow would be much more restrained against the much more capable Israel Defense Forces (IDF). The Yemeni war, which had cost Cairo 25,000 casualties already, remained a costly diversion for Egypt from the Sinai battlefield. Indeed the disastrous performance of the Egyptian army in Yemen did much to influence the agency’s analysis of the threat the Egyptian military posed to Israel. The Egyptian expeditionary force in Yemen—which peaked at 70,000 troops— had been unable to defeat the much less-equipped Royalists despite years of effort. The track record of the largest Arab army was well known to the American experts. The analysis also dismissed talk of Arab unity as “fiction.” No serious coordination existed between the Arab states or their military establishments. The Arab Cold War kept military cooperation non-existent. The CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency produced a joint paper at the end of May that judged Israel would win any war and take the Sinai in “several days.” At the beginning of June, based on a meeting with the head of the Mossad, Helms told LBJ that it was his conclusion that war was imminent and would be initiated by the Israelis. He soon was proven right on both counts. When the war began, the agency was quick to tell the White House that Israel had “fired the first shots” with its air strikes against the Egyptians, contrary to the Israeli account. It was the OCI’s high-water mark. Years later, Helms told me after his retirement that the accuracy of the agency’s estimates in May and June 1967 gained him great credibility with the president. LBJ made Helms a regular lunch partner at his weekly meetings with his top national security advisers after his performance in the Middle East. The story of the success has been declassified and published by the CIA’s historical office. Two months after the war, the U.S. intelligence community produced an assessment of the results. Half of Egypt’s 1,000 tanks were destroyed or captured and two-thirds of its air force destroyed; the Royal Jordanian Air Force was totally annihilated and two-thirds of Jordan’s 200 tanks were lost; and the Syrians had lost most of their air force. Israel had lost less than 100 of its 1,100 tanks and only 24 of 450 jet pilots. Arab casualties were 10 times more than Israeli ones. Of course, six years later OCI—and the Israeli intelligence—was caught by surprise by the October 1973 war. The agency then relied far too heavily on the IDF’s judgment that the Arabs would not make war, ignoring the overwhelming evidence that an attack was coming—including a secret warning from Jordan’s King Hussein. In the ultimate bureaucratic price, OCI was reorganized out of existence, due to that failure.
1. THE IRAQ WAR – This might not be the most callous, the most dangerous, the most recent, the most secret or the most insidious of the items on this list, nevertheless it is – must be – number one…because it is the most brazen. The war was started in the name of “weapons of mass destruction” that everyone – everyone – knew never existed. They all knew the truth, but they lied. The President lied, the vice-president lied, the secretary of defence lied, the secretary of state lied. The Prime Minister lied, the defence minister lied, the foreign minister lied. They lied to the press, the people and the UN. The CIA, the NSA, the FBI – then headed by the “heroic marine” Robert Mueller – they lied too. The press repeated these lies, without question (see: Operation Mockingbird). They weren’t “misinformed”, they weren’t “mistaken”. They lied, they lied repeatedly – and provably – and they did it in order to start a war, make money, take control, spread influence. One million Iraqis died.
Liberator....I didn’t forget the attrition on this one. But it may happen again that I do. So, you be a good boy now and keep closely monitoring my post so you can be of help to me if I again should.
In the early morning hours of May 2nd in Pakistan, a U.S. military raid of an al-Qa’ida compound in Abbottabad killed America’s most wanted terrorist, Usama Bin Ladin. The mission’s success was the culmination of many years of complex, thorough, and highly-advanced intelligence operations and analysis led by the CIA with support from partners across the Intelligence Community. U.S. agencies had been collecting intelligence about the compound since it was discovered in August, 2010. Multiple streams of intelligence led to the assessment that Bin Ladin was hiding there, protected by two of his closest facilitators. The strike on the compound, authorized by the President on April 29th, was a surgical raid by a small team of special operations forces. The raid was designed to minimize collateral damage and to pose as little risk as possible to non-combatants on the compound or to Pakistani civilians in the neighborhood. The compound where Bin Ladin was hiding is in Abbottabad, a town in Pakistan’s Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Province (formerly the Northwest Frontier Province), about 35 miles north of Islamabad. The compound and its main residence had extensive security features: high walls topped with barbed wire, double entry gates, opaque windows, no apparent Internet or telephone connection, and the residents burned their trash. It was valued at $1 million, but the two al- Qa’ida facilitators who owned it had no apparent source of wealth. For an illustration of the compound, click here. The death of Usama Bin Ladin marks the single greatest victory in the U.S.-led campaign to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al-Qa’ida. It is a major and essential step in bringing about the terrorist organization’s eventual dissolution. Bin Ladin was al-Qa’ida’s founder and only amir, or commander, in its 22-year history. He was largely responsible for the organization’s mystique, its ability to raise money and attract new recruits, and its focus on the United States as a target for terrorist attacks. As the only al- Qa’ida leader whose authority was universally respected, he also maintained the group’s cohesion. Although al-Qa’ida may not fragment immediately, the loss of Bin Ladin puts the deadly organization on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse.
So, it is ever so easy to point out the known failures of the CIA. The CIA has a lot more known failures than successes because sharing success stories would often compromise other ongoing operations. So when pointing to the failures of the CIA, its “stacking the deck”. Like cheating by fixing a deck of playing cards in your favor during a poker game. But then, Deckard, what’s new with you? You are always conniving with devious use of the many underhanded tactics at your disposal to achieve your agenda.. Sad ...
Source: CIA Website. Seriously? You cite an article from an agency that is infamous for its lying and you believe it? Fox News, December 26, 2001: Report: Bin Laden Already Dead Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. "The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said. Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief. About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
Bet you copied and pasted that from the CIA's own propaganda site. Would you call these operations "successes" or "failures"? How The CIA-Operated A “Drug Smuggling Airline” For Heroin & The 9/11 Connection How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs
You are infamous for believing ONLY what you are predisposed to believe. Truth be damned, for you. Seriously ...
Tater is covering up for the Cocaine Import Agency (CIA). The volunteers were completely astonished when the two arrestees pulled out CIA ID cards and explained they were actually carrying the drug as part of their duties and that the cargo belonged to the Central Intelligence Agency. The incident took place last night, in the Chihuahuan desert, near the Texan city of El Paso. A group of seven Minutemen saw a large black SUV drive rapidly across the border. They chased the vehicle in their own trucks and achieved to immobilize it after a chase of more than 15 miles. The vigilantes arrested the two men on board and called the border patrol, who proceeded to search the vehicle. They discovered dozens of packages of cocaine, totaling an incredible 618.4 kilograms (1363 pounds). The search of the vehicle revealed 36 packages of cocaine, all marked with the symbol of the Sinaloa Cartel, representing a black scorpion. The two men claim to be CIA operatives based in Mexico and explained that the drug was actually part of an operation of the agency. They presented identity cards that seem to validate their claim, but the CIA spokesperson, Dean Boyd, has officially denied any link between the organization and the two men.
Bet you copied and pasted that from the CIA's own propaganda site. Let’s try it this way ... Most all of the CIA’s activities are clandestine and secret to protect methodology and personnel. During clandestine operations, there have been numerous justices done, many lies saved and some unfriendly governments working against the interests of the US turned around. All this with the necessity of keeping the activity concealed from public knowledge. Because of the necessity of keeping operations a secret to protect methods and personnel, there are many more reported failures that successes. It matters not that failures are known, since of course those type of operations will not be undertaken again. On the other hand, it is of the utmost importance to keep the successful operations secret so the methods can be used again when necessary. Therefore, the CIA has a lot more known and recorded failures than it does successes simply because sharing success stories would more than likely compromise other ongoing or future operations. So, when you are pointing out the failures of the CIA, you are “stacking the deck”. It’s like you are cheating by fixing a deck of playing cards in your favor during a poker game. But then, Deckard, what’s new with you? You are always conniving with devious use of the many underhanded tactics at your disposal to achieve your agenda.. Now, does this way sound better to you? Probably not....but then, I really don’t give a shit.
He does seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect of his beloved CIA.
Please create a thread based on the topic of your post. Thanks
Upon further investigation the story appears to be a hoax. If you look at the page bottom of the story posted it's a satire site. I made a mistake in posting that, and I admit it. greencrowasthecrowflies.b...ia-agents-caught-red.html The CIA does run a lot of drugs though, in addition to their other evil deeds.
Buckeroo: Please create a thread based on the topic of your post. Thanks Deckard: He [Gatlin] does seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect [Two CIA Agents Arrested by Minutemen while Crossing Mexican Border with 1300 Pounds of Cocaine] of his beloved CIA. Hondo: Upon further investigation the story appears to be a hoax. If you look at the page bottom of the story posted it's a satire site. Hond0: The CIA does run a lot of drugs though, in addition to their other evil deeds. [Honndo, don’t you dare try to weasel your way out of your FUCK UP and falling for FAGE NEWS bu stating a “though”]. If I have told you idiots once, I have told you a dozen times to fact-check your stories, especially something so sensationalized and improbable as this one was, before you post it. Do not simply read a headline and then blindly do a copy and paste to QUICKLY post the article on LF. Doing that makes you look even more stupid that you are.
He does seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect of his beloved CIA. LMAO ...
There's plenty of CIA drug running that you're ignoring.
Fake News: any story that debunks Gatlin's Pollyanna-ish view of his beloved government institutions. Everybody knows that the CIA has been complicit in drug trafficking for many decades Spanky. Narcotics and Covert Intelligence: How the CIA Commandeered the “War on Drugs” Pablo Escobar’s Son Reveals His Dad “Worked for the CIA Selling Cocaine” — Media Silent Fake News: any story that debunks Gatlin's Pollyanna-ish view of his beloved government institutions. Nah, don’t try to be coy and cover up that your stupidly bought into the fake news story hondo reported in his Post #15: Two CIA Agents Arrested by Minutemen while Crossing Mexican Border with 1300 Pounds of Cocaine. My God, boy, the title alone should have sent off flash bombs in your mind that there would be an absolute requirement to fact check this story before posting any type agreement with it, as you immediately did. Nah, you never bothered to fact check and once again you along with Bucky shit yourselves because you immediately believed this was a factual story about where the CIA had gone wrong. You are so duplicitous in your hatred for all forms of government that you willingly allow yourself to be duped by fake news. Sad. Furthermore, your childish act of spamming a few links to try to hide your embarrassment didn’t work. It merely called attention to your shameful gullibility. I am sure everyone can look forward to you continuing to make an ass of yourself today as you relentlessly and blindly charge forward in our unbridled pursuit to show yourself the fool you are. Press on, Deckard....I look forward to another entertaining day of you showing your ignorance.
That you deny the CIA has been complicit in drug trafficking for decades only displays your abject stupidity. Laughing at you dumbass. At least hondo was able to man up and admit his mistake. You on the other hand - not so much.
At least hondo was able to man up and admit his mistake. But after thinking further about it, I realize it was not a mistake….IT WAS A TOTAL DISASTER. Interestingly enough….I feel that same way about you.
For Posting Comment What is on display here is YOUR abject stupidity for believing the ALLEGED stories about the CIA being complicit in drug trafficking. A thorough review of the information found on the Internet will show that some writers have alleged that the CIA was involves in cocaine trafficking connected to the Contra war in Nicaragua during the Reagan Administration time in office. There were thorough investigations into these allegations by the House, Senate, DOJ, and the CIA's Inspector General. The charges of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking were regurgitated many years later by a reporter who ridiculously claimed that this trafficking had been an important role in the creation of the crack cocaine drug problem in the United States. There were three federal investigatiolns into this charge and none revealed any conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the US. Your belief, and you promoting the belief that the CIA is trafficking in drugs is merely a conspiracy theory. And you spamming with unproven allegations by any number of reporters will in no way give factual validity to these alleged and malicious charges.
Attaboy!! Frikkin' simpleton!
You're too much of a self-centered asshole to ever do that.
Gatlin Schultz You're a shill for the criminal CIA. Of course drug trafficking isn't the only thing the CIA does, is it? History of MK-ULTRA. CIA program on Mind Control Mind Control Cover-up The Secrets of Mind Control This mind control summary is based on astonishing excerpts from three landmark books: Bluebird by Colin Ross, MD; Mind Controllers by Armen Victorian; and A Nation Betrayed by Carol Rutz. The authors provide hundreds of footnotes to support their thorough research. This revealing information is based on 18,000 pages of declassified CIA mind control documents. To order these key documents from the U.S. government, click here. Join in powerfully building a better world for all by spreading the word A declassified CIA document dated 7 Jan 1953 [1] describes the creation of multiple personality in 19-year old girls. "These subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H [hypnotic] controlled state ... by telephone, by receiving written matter, or by the use of code, signal, or words and that control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes." The CIA Mind Control Projects A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to "kill." Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted]. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [deleted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." BB 36, 37 327 CIA mind-control victims win cash claims HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care. *** Yeah....I guess these hundreds of mind control victims who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments are just a bunch of "kooks"? In 1953, President Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of Defense Charles E. Wilson authorized scientific experimentation on active duty military members in a document now infamously known as the Wilson Memo. Between 1954 and 1975, more than seven thousand Army and Air Force personnel are thought to have participated in Sidney Gottlieb's mind control program. Many of these veterans have sought compensation for the physical and psychological damage they suffered at the hands of Gottlieb and his assistants, but to date the government has balked at honoring their claims.In 2001, President Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen awarded yet another contract to the IOM to locate the Edgewood veterans and other subjects of DoD chemical testing. In a 2003 article published in Military Medicine , the IOM reported that it had conducted a survey of 4,002 Edgewood veterans. But this report focused on subjects of Sarin and other chemical weapon experiments, not specifically on the MK-ULTRA mind control program subjects. Further confusing the issue was a 2004 Government Accounting Office (GAO) report titled Chemical and Biological Defense: DOD Needs to Continue to Collect and Provide Information on Tests and Potentially Exposed Personnel. The report covered veteran test subjects in a chemical and biological test program known as "Project 112," but also addressed a Department of Defense mandate to investigate all other human test projects conducted since World War II. The report stated that Army documents identified over seven thousand Army and Air Force personnel who participated in these "other tests" conducted at Edgewood and elsewhere, but didn't specifically break out which of these test veterans were involved in Gottlieb's mind control experiments. It also said the GAO had concluded that, "the scope and the magnitude of tests involving human subjects was not available, and the exact number of human subjects might never be known." * Shocking Videos of LSD and MKULTRA Experiments on Citizens The purpose of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, “Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?” Project Bluebird researchers experimented with a wide variety of psychoactive substances, including LSD, heroin, marijuana, cocaine, PCP, mescaline, and ether. Thousands of military personal were dosed and experimented upon, and it is believed that many civilians were also used.
Would you accept an admission from the CIA?This article was originally published by offGuardian.
#2. To: Willie Green, MKUltra (#1)
Bullshit KGB propaganda...
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
10 Best Intelligence Agencies in the World.
10. ASIS – Australia
Formed 13 May 1952 Headquarters Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia Annual budget $162.5m AUD (2007) Minister responsible The Hon. Stephen Smith MP, Minister for Foreign Affairs Agency executive Nick Warner, Director-General 9. RAW – India
Formed 21 September 1968 Headquarters New Delhi, India Agency executive K. C. Verma, Secretary (R) Parent agency Prime Minister’s Office, GoI 8. DGSE – France
Formed April 2, 1982 Preceding agency External Documentation and Counter-Espionage Service Minister responsible Hervé Morin, Minister of Defence Agency executive Erard Corbin de Mangoux, Director 7. FSB – Russia
Formed 3 April, 1995 Employees 350,000 Headquarters Lubyanka Square Preceding agency KGB 6. BND – Germany
Formed 1 April 1956 Employees 6,050 Agency executive Gehlen Organization Parent agency Central Intelligence Group 5. MSS – China
Jurisdiction People’s Republic of China Headquarters Beijing Agency executive Geng Huichang, Minister of State Security Parent agency State Council 4. Mossad – Israel
Formed December 13, 1949 as the Central Institute for Coordination Employees 1,200 (est) Agency executive Meir Dagan, Director Parent agency Office of the Prime Minister 3. ISI – Pakistan
Formed 1948 Jurisdiction Government of Pakistan Headquarters Islamabad, Pakistan Agency executive Lieutenant General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, PA Director General 2. M1-6 – United Kingdom
Formed 1909 as the Secret Service Bureau Jurisdiction Government of the United Kingdom Headquarters Vauxhall Cross, London Minister responsible The Rt Hon. William Hague MP, Foreign Secretary Agency executive Sir John Sawers KCMG, Director General Parent agency Foreign and Commonwealth Office 1. CIA – America
Formed September 18, 1947 Employees 20,000 Agency executive Leon Panetta, Director Parent agency Central Intelligence Group
#5. To: Liberator, Stoner, CZ82, hondo68 (#4)
Oh my goodness, Liberator, Again I forgot to cite the source of the information contained in my Post #4.
#6. To: Gatlin, k0oK, Deep State disinfo agent (#4)
(Edited)
1. CIA – America
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
The CIA's overlooked intelligence victory in the 1967 War.
#8. To: Gatlin (#4)
(The CIA)...has failed to control terrorism activities including 9/11, Not even a single top level Al-Queda leader captured own its own in the past 9 years – ‘they missed 1 Million’ Soviet troops marching into Afghanistan’. Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction, Have the found them yet?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#9. To: Liberator (#7)
Yeah!!!
#10. To: Deckard (#8)
The Operation that Killed Bin Ladin The Compound
The Impact
#11. To: Deckard, Everybody (#10)
Many events in history have been that were caused by the covert missions undergone by the CIA. Because of such activities, there have been discoveries made, conspiracies disclosed, injustices done, lives killed, and governments changed as a result of keeping everything concealed from public knowledge.
#12. To: Gatlin (#10)
(Edited)
CIA Successful Operation The Operation that Killed Bin Ladin
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#13. To: Gatlin (#11)
The CIA has a lot more known failures than successes because sharing success stories would often compromise other ongoing operations.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#14. To: Deckard (#12)
CIA Successful Operation The Operation that Killed Bin Ladin Source: CIA Website. Seriously? You cite an article from an agency that is infamous for its lying and you believe it?
Seriously .... Deckard, I could cite the Bible and if the citation did not fit your agenda then you wouldn’t believe it.
#15. To: Gatlin, Cocaine Import Agency CIA, Deckard, vigilantes (#14)
Truth be damned
Two CIA Agents Arrested by Minutemen while Crossing Mexican Border with 1300 Pounds of Cocaine
El Paso | A group of Minutemen watching the Mexican Border for illegal migrants and drug traffickers, have proceeded to the citizen arrest of two men in an SUV, carrying 1300 pounds of cocaine. 
#16. To: Deckard (#13)
The CIA has a lot more known failures than successes because sharing success stories would often compromise other ongoing operations.
#17. To: hondo68 (#15)
Tater is covering up for the Cocaine Import Agency (CIA).
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#18. To: hondo68 (#15)
#19. To: buckeroo, Deckard, Gatlin (#18)
(Edited)
Please create a thread based on the topic of your post.
#20. To: hondo68, Deckard, A K A Stone. GrandIsland (#19)
Hond68: Two CIA Agents Arrested by Minutemen while Crossing Mexican Border with 1300 Pounds of Cocaine
I was waiting for you to post this fake news on a new thread. I remember this fake news story from 2 to 3 years ago and I had a post all prepared to lambast you. Oh well ...
#21. To: Deckard (#17)
Tater is covering up for the Cocaine Import Agency (CIA).
You seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect of FAKE NEWS.
#22. To: Gatlin, cover up, Clinton Bush CIA Mena, Iran Contra (#21)
#23. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#21)
(Edited)
You seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect of FAKE NEWS.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#24. To: Gatlin (#21)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#25. To: Deckard (#23)
You seem to be ignoring that seamy aspect of FAKE NEWS.
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#27. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#20)
I remember this fake news story from 2 to 3 years ago and I had a post all prepared to lambast you. Oh well ...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#28. To: Deckard (#27)
I remember this fake news story from 2 to 3 years ago and I had a post all prepared to lambast you. Oh well ...
I often times wonder is hondo’s birth was not a mistake.
#29. To: Deckard (#26)
(Edited)
That you deny the CIA has been complicit in drug trafficking for decades only displays your abject stupidity.
I deny nothing. I will accept what is proven to be factual and thus far you have proven nothing with your ALLEGATIONS. They are words….merely words about ALLEGATIONS.
#30. To: Gatlin (#29)
Your belief, and you promoting that belief, that the CIA is trafficking in drugs is merely a conspiracy theory.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#31. To: Gatlin (#28)
At least hondo was able to man up and admit his mistake.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#32. To: Gatlin (#29)
(Edited)
I deny nothing. I will accept what is proven to be factual...
Cameron, who graduated from Glasgow University, was recruited by the CIA during the cold war while working at McGill University in Montreal, Canada.
He carried out mind-control experiments using drugs such as LSD on hundreds of patients, but only 77 of them were awarded compensation.
Now a landmark ruling by a Federal Court judge in Montreal will allow more than 250 former patients, whose claims were rejected, to seek compensation. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#33. To: Gatlin (#29)
... merely a conspiracy theory
They Were Expendable
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
#34. To: Gatlin (#29)
I will accept what is proven to be factual and thus far you have proven nothing with your ALLEGATIONS.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.
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