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Title: 65 year old Marine decks punk
Source: King 5.com
URL Source: http://www.king5.com/video/featured ... -up-by-customer--80296047.html
Published: Dec 29, 2009
Author: DAN BILLOW
Post Date: 2009-12-29 20:07:18 by BobCeleste
Keywords: None
Views: 1441
Comments: 44

When you leave Wal-Mart after making a purchase, you walk past a scanner that sets off an alarm if you haven't paid for something.

And if the alarm goes off at this Wal-Mart, Ed Bauman will want to talk to you.

Ed Bauman, Wal-Mart greeter, says "I'm getting too old for this stuff."

Too old to be punched in the head by a customer who exception to Bauman's questions.

Ed says "when he swang, he got me right here," pointing to the back of his head.

The 69-year-old greeter was at the entrance when a man in red shorts, identified as Skyler Lowery set off the alarm but then refused to stop when Bauman questioned him.

Bauman went outside to get his license but then the guy rips Bauman's clipboard from his hands and goes back inside.

Ed says "I grabbed the clip board back and as I was doing that, he hit me with a doubled-up fist behind my ear."

The 6-foot-2 retired Marine didn't back down.

Ed says "the security officer said if you would have hit him in the jaw the way you hit him in the chest, you would have knocked him out."

Police arrested Lowery who would have faced a charge of misdemeanor battery had Bauman been under 65. But hitting an older person is a felony and Bauman says he still doesn't know why it happened.

The alarm was false and Lowery had a receipt for everything in his bag.

Failing to show the receipt in this case meant the difference between 10 seconds and five years. It would have taken 10 seconds to show the receipt but now he faces up to five years for battery on a person over 65.

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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Most likely, Skyler Lowery will sue Walmart for a goo sum, get it, and the 69 year old marine will be charged with attempted robbery. All rightfully so.

Anybody spot the lie and the "citizen conditioning" by this idiot reporter?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-29   20:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Wood_Chopper (#1)

Most likely, Skyler Lowery will sue Walmart for a goo sum, get it, and the 69 year old marine will be charged with attempted robbery. All rightfully so.

Have you lost your bleeping mind? Are you saying Wal-Mart doesn't have a right to try and stop shoplifting? Are you saying Wal-Mart employees don't have the right to follow someone outside that set off a scanner alert in order to take down their license number if they refuse to stop to have their bags and receipts checked?

Or are you just saying that it's ok to sucker punch Wal-Mart employees?

I will tell you the most likely thing to happen. This "tough guy" is likely to be back with 4 or 5 of his "boyz" at closing time one night to ratpack this 65 year old man for being disrespectful to him by not allowing himself to be beaten up.

Anybody spot the lie and the "citizen conditioning" by this idiot reporter?

I didn't. Point it out.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-30   8:32:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#18)

Have you lost your bleeping mind?

Sometimes my wife thinks so! ;-)

Are you saying Wal-Mart doesn't have a right to try and stop shoplifting?

Of course Wal-Mart does. They can have video surveillance, video tape everything going on in the store (except in the bathrooms) or security people in the store watching people.

Are you saying Wal-Mart employees don't have the right to follow someone outside that set off a scanner alert in order to take down their license number if they refuse to stop to have their bags and receipts checked?

Of course they do.

Or are you just saying that it's ok to sucker punch Wal-Mart employees?

Depends on what the employee is doing. Same as sucker punching anyone else.

(wc) Anybody spot the lie and the "citizen conditioning" by this idiot reporter?

(sp) I didn't. Point it out.

The sentence, "When you leave Wal-Mart after making a purchase, you walk past a scanner that sets off an alarm if you haven't paid for something." What he didn't say was that it also goes off when you have paid for everything you have. Often.

They alarm going off is not proof that someone is stealing something.

Do you think because an electronic box beeps when you walk past it, you must submit to a search of your bag by a Wal-Mart greeter.

Do you believe in this country that we are innocent until proven guilty, or that we are guilty until we prove we're innocent, and that we have to prove we are innocent because an electronic box, known for numerous false alarms, beeped when we walked past it.

One of our rights is the presumption of innocence, which is slowly being eroded by crap like this, and people don't even see it when it's happening right in front of their face. And it's being done by conditioning of the people by idiots like this reporter with sentences like this:

It would have taken 10 seconds to show the receipt but now he faces up to five years for battery on a person over 65.

In other words, it would only take you ten seconds to voluntarily give up your right to presumed innocence and allow yourself to be searched by a Wal-Mart greeter. What's the big woops? It just your rights you're giving up.

And if you don't accept the conditioning, we can always threaten you with 5 years for not doing so.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-30   14:46:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Wood_Chopper (#22)

The sentence, "When you leave Wal-Mart after making a purchase, you walk past a scanner that sets off an alarm if you haven't paid for something." What he didn't say was that it also goes off when you have paid for everything you have. Often.

OK,you got me there. I have never heard of this happening at any other store on a regular basis,and don't ever go to Wal-Mart if I have any other option,so this may be true.

Even if it is,so what? Stop and show the store employee what is in your bag and your receipt. What's the big deal?

They alarm going off is not proof that someone is stealing something.

True,but showing your receipt is proof you didn't. It ain't like they are heavy or bite you if you reach in the bag for them.

Do you think because an electronic box beeps when you walk past it, you must submit to a search of your bag by a Wal-Mart greeter.

No,but if you don't,don't be surprised if one follows you to the parking lot to write down your license plate number so that a cop can stop you and ask to see your receipt.

Do you believe in this country that we are innocent until proven guilty, or that we are guilty until we prove we're innocent, and that we have to prove we are innocent because an electronic box, known for numerous false alarms, beeped when we walked past it.

What,you want to make a mountain out of a molehill and take a case like this to the Supreme Court,when all you had to do to resolve the situation was show a bleeping receipt that you still have in the same bag?

One of our rights is the presumption of innocence, which is slowly being eroded by crap like this, and people don't even see it when it's happening right in front of their face.

Oh,bullBush! The beeper going off is a presumption of guilt on your part,and asking you to show a receipt is a perfectly reasonable request.

In other words, it would only take you ten seconds to voluntarily give up your right to presumed innocence and allow yourself to be searched by a Wal-Mart greeter. What's the big woops? It just your rights you're giving up.

Don't be such a freaking drama queen. You are giving up NO right be being required to show a receipt,and you are giving up no presumption of innocence because the beeper went off and indicated there was a item in your bag that hadn't been scanned. THAT ALONE is probable cause to search you.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-30   18:57:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#27)

The beeper going off is a presumption of guilt on your part.

When did we arrive to the point where there is a presumption of guilt in the U.S.?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-30   20:28:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: Wood_Chopper (#32)

When did we arrive to the point where there is a presumption of guilt in the U.S.?

Huh? It has always been that way.

Get caught standing over a warm body with a smoking gun in your hand or running out of a bank with the alarms blaring and a bag overflowing with cash and chances are there the cops and everybody else is going to adopt the presumption of guilt.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-30 20:54:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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