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Title: 65 year old Marine decks punk
Source: King 5.com
URL Source: http://www.king5.com/video/featured ... -up-by-customer--80296047.html
Published: Dec 29, 2009
Author: DAN BILLOW
Post Date: 2009-12-29 20:07:18 by BobCeleste
Keywords: None
Views: 1727
Comments: 44

When you leave Wal-Mart after making a purchase, you walk past a scanner that sets off an alarm if you haven't paid for something.

And if the alarm goes off at this Wal-Mart, Ed Bauman will want to talk to you.

Ed Bauman, Wal-Mart greeter, says "I'm getting too old for this stuff."

Too old to be punched in the head by a customer who exception to Bauman's questions.

Ed says "when he swang, he got me right here," pointing to the back of his head.

The 69-year-old greeter was at the entrance when a man in red shorts, identified as Skyler Lowery set off the alarm but then refused to stop when Bauman questioned him.

Bauman went outside to get his license but then the guy rips Bauman's clipboard from his hands and goes back inside.

Ed says "I grabbed the clip board back and as I was doing that, he hit me with a doubled-up fist behind my ear."

The 6-foot-2 retired Marine didn't back down.

Ed says "the security officer said if you would have hit him in the jaw the way you hit him in the chest, you would have knocked him out."

Police arrested Lowery who would have faced a charge of misdemeanor battery had Bauman been under 65. But hitting an older person is a felony and Bauman says he still doesn't know why it happened.

The alarm was false and Lowery had a receipt for everything in his bag.

Failing to show the receipt in this case meant the difference between 10 seconds and five years. It would have taken 10 seconds to show the receipt but now he faces up to five years for battery on a person over 65.

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There is a video at the link. Punks really should leave 65 yearl old Marines alone.

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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Most likely, Skyler Lowery will sue Walmart for a goo sum, get it, and the 69 year old marine will be charged with attempted robbery. All rightfully so.

Anybody spot the lie and the "citizen conditioning" by this idiot reporter?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-29   20:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Wood_Chopper (#1)

Being the guy paid for everything he was under no obligation to stop. He made a mistake hitting the guy though. The whole thing will be dropped.

jtidsguy  posted on  2009-12-29   22:29:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jtidsguy (#4) (Edited)

He made a mistake hitting the guy though.

Really?

Look at the video. The Walmart greeter is trying to grab the bag of stuff he bought, which probably holds the only proof the shopper has, that he paid for everything, that being the receipt.

Question for you. If ANYONE tried to grab a bag of merchandise you have paid for, what would you do?

You're a cop. Is it robbery if someone tries to take from you what is legally yours? Is it legal to try to stop it to protect your property?

Did you spot the lie in the report? Did you spot the "conditioning" of citizens?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-29   22:56:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Wood_Chopper (#6)

Question for you. If ANYONE tried to grab a bag of merchandise you have paid for, what would you do?

Wrong or badly worded question.

The question SHOULD be,"If a security scanner beeps as you are walking outside a store with your purchases,what should you do?" Should you stop and allow a store employee to verify that your receipt matches the items in your bag,or should you keep on walking while ignoring the employees demands you stop and show your receipts,and then punch him out for writing down your license number?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-30   8:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#19)

Wrong or badly worded question.

No, that's the correct question.

The question SHOULD be,"If a security scanner beeps as you are walking outside a store with your purchases,what should you do?" Should you stop and allow a store employee to verify that your receipt matches the items in your bag,or should you keep on walking while ignoring the employees demands you stop and show your receipts ...

No, that's a separate question and a good one. You can do either.

You can keep your rights and walk on.

Or, you can stop and let the employee verify that your receipt matches the items in your bag, if you want to, but that proves nothing. If you were stealing something, you may have slid it into your pants and not put it in your shopping bag.

So what's next? The Wal-Mart greeter sees your bag and receipt match, but hey, the magic electronic box, known for false alarms, beeped when you walked by it. You already submitted to a search of your bag. Do you now allow yourself to be patted down, your pockets emptied so you can prove your innocence?

If not, why not?

... and then punch him out for writing down your license number?

He didn't punch the Wal-Mart greeter out for writing down his license number. If that were the case, he would have done it outside the store instead of just taking the clip board.

Did you notice which way he went after he got the clip board? INTO the store, not away from it. He wasn't trying to take evidence. He wasn't stealing the clipboard. My guess is that he was looking for a manager to give him a piece of his mind.

I've seen the video on our local news. It starts much earlier than the video at the link in this post. The guy and the greeter are standing there, the guy calmly looking around as if waiting for a manager when the GREETER grabs the guys arm (most likely trying to get the clipboard back) and the hand the guy is holding his bag with. You can see the guy trying to tug his arm away from the greeter, and when he can't loosen the greeter's grasp, takes a swing at the greeter.

He didn't sucker punch the greeter for writing down his license.

The greeter made the assault, and if that video ever gets to court, the greeter's fucked.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-30   15:16:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Wood_Chopper (#24)

He didn't punch the Wal-Mart greeter out for writing down his license number.

Yeah,he did.

If that were the case, he would have done it outside the store instead of just taking the clip board.

He punched the employee out after the employee grabbed the clipboard back from him. Read the story again.

Did you notice which way he went after he got the clip board? INTO the store, not away from it. He wasn't trying to take evidence. He wasn't stealing the clipboard. My guess is that he was looking for a manager to give him a piece of his mind.

My guess is he was trying to get in the store so he could dump whatever he had that set the beeper off.

And finally,anybody that shops at China's Outlet store deserves to be punched out anyhow.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-30   19:03:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: sneakypete (#28)

And finally,anybody that shops at China's Outlet store deserves to be punched out anyhow.

OK, ya got me there.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-30 20:29:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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