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Title: Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections
Source: SF Bee
URL Source: https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article215095600.html
Published: Jul 19, 2018
Author: Don Sweeney
Post Date: 2018-07-19 07:49:52 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 303
Comments: 40

San Francisco began registering non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, to register to vote Monday in the November election for the city school board, reported The San Francisco Chronicle.

The move follows passage of a 2016 ballot measure by San Francisco voters opening school elections to non-citizens who are over the age of 18, city residents and have children under age 19, reported the publication.

“This is no-brainer legislation,” Hillary Ronen, a San Francisco supervisor, told the Chronicle. “Why would we not want our parents invested in the education of their children?”

“We want to give immigrants the right to vote,” Norman Yee, also a county supervisor, told KGO.

But Harmeet Dhillon, who serves on the Republican National Committee, told the station she disagrees with those assessments.

“The reason I voted against it is that I think the right to vote is something that goes along with citizenship and should be,” Dhillon told KGO.

San Francisco became the first city in California to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections following passage of Measure N with 54 percent of the vote after two previous failed tries, reported KTVU.

There are concerns that the non-citizen voter registration rolls, which will be open, could be used to target people who entered the U.S. illegally, reported The San Francisco Examiner.

“Our immigrants, are they vulnerable? Absolutely,” Supervisor Sandra Lee Fewer told the publication. “But in San Francisco we stand strong together.”

President Donald Trump and California leaders have clashed repeatedly since the 2016 election over immigration enforcement, sanctuary cities and voter fraud allegations.

Community organizations, such as the Mission Economic Development Agency, plan to meet with non-citizens to inform them of the possible risks, the Examiner reported.

Chicago and some Maryland cities also allow non-citizen residents to vote in school board elections, reported KPIX.

Several cities in Massachusetts, including Cambridge, Amherst, Brookline and others, have at various times voted to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections, but those moves require legislation from state lawmakers to take effect, reported The Boston Globe.

The San Francisco measure allowing non-citizen voting expires in 2022 unless renewed by the board of supervisors, according to the Examiner.

The deadline to register to vote in San Francisco is Oct. 22 for the Nov. 6 election, according to the California Secretary of State’s Office.


Poster Comment:

Allow people WHO BREaK US LAW" to start electing people and setting policies. Now THAT is a "no brainer." Becoming a citizen AND obtaining the right to vote is EARNED. When you give it away you are in effect devaluing and negating true legal citizen votes. I would encourage US citizens to launch a class action lawsuit seeking damages for what to be is obvious harm.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

Those new voter ID cards will be all they need to vote in the 2020 state and national elections,too. Just watch and see.

First they get the cards recognized and accepted as legal,then they register the new voters as,well,"registered voters".

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-19   8:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IbJensen (#0)

President Donald Trump and California leaders have clashed repeatedly since the 2016 election over immigration enforcement, sanctuary cities and voter fraud allegations.

If California continues along this path, Congress has the power to refuse to certify their votes in a national election. There goes 55 electoral votes.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-19   10:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

If California continues along this path, Congress has the power to refuse to certify their votes in a national election. There goes 55 electoral votes.

That's exactly what will happen.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-07-19   11:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#1)

I think Mr. White has it right.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2018-07-19   11:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen (#0)

This whole debate about treating illegals like US citizen has been going on for years now, and STILL I cannot get my head wrapped around how some people view crossing the border illegally as a legal right. No other country on the planet is so tolerant.

I guess all those years of indoctrinating the American masses, as we all were, that the US is the greatest country in the world and that everyone wishes they were born here has had this unintended consequence. Or maybe not so unintended. These conditioned Americans just have a view that civilization simply doesn't exist outside of the USA, so letting immigration authorities take them and return them back to the wild and dangerous wilderness where sabortooth tigers eat thousands of people every day would be a crime against humanity.

Maybe that's it. So ignorant.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-19   11:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IbJensen (#3)

That's exactly what will happen.

No, I disagree. Every last dem would be opposed to it, and if it were to be so, then it really would foment risk of starting a civil war, especially if it made a difference in an election outcome. California may well push to secede, but wouldn't want to pay their share of the national debt before or after doing so. The USD would crash too. All kinds of stuff would happen.

No, that won't ever happen.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-19   11:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#5) (Edited)

This whole debate about treating illegals like US citizen has been going on for years now, and STILL I cannot get my head wrapped around how some people view crossing the border illegally as a legal right. No other country on the planet is so tolerant.

I can't wrap this whole, "We're gonna break law after law and will independently give Jose citizenship and freebies -- just try and stop us" 'tude around my head either.

ARE we a Nation of Laws or not??

These conditioned Americans just have a view that civilization simply doesn't exist outside of the USA, so letting immigration authorities take them and return them back to the wild and dangerous wilderness where sabortooth tigers eat thousands of people every day would be a crime against humanity. Maybe that's it.

Ha -- I think you've hit it on the nose. The (American) LEFT absolutely sees it this way. They've taught/indoctrinated the pods since the mid-70s to adopt this distorted view of fake reality. And dopey mantras like "Diversity is our Strength". THAT one has stuck in everyone's head whether we believed it or not.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-19   11:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite, IbJensen, misterwhite (#6)

MW: "If California continues along this path, Congress has the power to refuse to certify their votes in a national election. There goes 55 electoral votes."

IB: "That's exactly what will happen."

No, I disagree. Every last dem would be opposed to it, and if it were to be so, then it really would foment risk of starting a civil war...

California may well push to secede, but wouldn't want to pay their share of the national debt before or after doing so. The USD would crash too. All kinds of stuff would happen. No, that won't ever happen.

I agree with Ping here; NO way is Congress going to wipe out CA 55 Electoral votes for the reasons he gives: CW and Economics.

And yes of course -- most Kalik00kistanians WANT to secede -- and maybe even Oregonians (on the West Coast).

But let's face it -- we're at the warm stages of CW2 in any case right now (where ONLY the Left is on the attack.) The Left is actively pushing a Piping-Hot CW2 while CA and practically every Blue-Dominated City is hopelessly bankrupt and outlaw.

In the best of all worlds, Dems and Pubbies agree to part ways and map out two new and very different nations that represent who "WE" are. This is an easy call: "Irreconcilable differences".

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-19   12:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#6)

My caveat was, "If California continues along this path …"

If illegals are allowed to vote in the national election, I would hope Congress would warn California that their electoral college votes will be considered null and void.

Right now we're winning without California, so it's a moot point. But that may not always be the case.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-19   12:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#2)

If California continues along this path, Congress has the power to refuse to certify their votes in a national election. There goes 55 electoral votes.

Thinking about that kinda takes my breath away. Our system defeated Communism in Russia,so maybe we can also defeat it in America?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-19   18:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#6)

No, I disagree. Every last dem would be opposed to it, and if it were to be so, then it really would foment risk of starting a civil war, especially if it made a difference in an election outcome.

"IF"??????????

That is an absolute certainty.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-19   18:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#7)

Ha -- I think you've hit it on the nose. The (American) LEFT absolutely sees it this way.

The American Left sees these people as "Revolutionary Cannon Fodder". Nothing more and nothing less. The idea is to have them revolt all over the country,and once they are killed off,the smoke dies down,and a new government is formed,they really do think THEY will be in charge.

No way in HELL these elites are going to risk their own precious hides or the precious hides of their offspring,so they NEED ignorant,illiterate foreigners to start the revolution and do the fighting for them.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-19   18:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#9)

If illegals are allowed to vote in the national election, I would hope Congress would warn California that their electoral college votes will be considered null and void.

I’d say if that happens, it’s time to water that tree of Liberty.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-19   19:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete, misterwhite (#10)

so maybe we can also defeat it in America?

With a Poodle in the White House and herd of followers who can't even articulate the difference between the R in the former USA and the R in the USSR and SFRY - where Mrs Poodle was raised by a card carrying member of the Soviet Communist Party?

SMH.

More likely the little man, Cadet Bone Spur, will get us all incinerated trying to prove what a macho guy he is.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-19   20:31:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#12)

The American Left sees these people as "Revolutionary Cannon Fodder". Nothing more and nothing less.

Exactly what I believe.

The idea is to have them revolt all over the country,and once they are killed off,the smoke dies down,and a new government is formed,they really do think THEY will be in charge.

Even a childhood friend of mine -- an admitted socialist and University Prof teaching gender studies and "white privilege" five years ago -- thought that somehow HE'D be part of the Ruling Class revolt aftermath (we've notice a LOT of these masked punks ARE University Profs just practicing what they preach.)

Btw Nolu -- WHY are these people allowed to riot and assault people IN MASKS?? WITH impunity? Isn't this against the law?

No way in HELL these elites are going to risk their own precious hides or the precious hides of their offspring,so they NEED ignorant,illiterate foreigners to start the revolution and do the fighting for them.

Yup. That's exactly who the Left's Echelon are using/sacrificing: Mushy pods, minoritahs, imported gangstas, and bitter lefty women with nothing to lose are easy marks. The Left counts on their continued ignorance as hate is stoked 24/7 by nearly every Tee-Bee network program.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-20   12:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: VxH, sneakypete (#14)

With a Poodle in the White House and herd of followers who can't even articulate...

Blah-blah.
Yada-Yada
(Insert irrelevant graphic HERE)

There. I just summarized your next post.

P.S.: Thomas Jefferson...IS STILL DEAD. And Hitlery (YOUR selection) is STILL a dopey, nasty drunk, greedy thief, and insane fascist lunatic.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-20   12:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#16)

And Hitlery

You mean Hitlery the "really good people" (D)onaldo The Magnificent is referring to...

...THAT Hitlery?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   13:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#15)

Isn't this against the law?

Isn't Hillary in Jail?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   13:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: VxH (#18) (Edited)

Isn't Hillary in Jail?

IF Hitlery *were* in jail, would her incarceration turn your entire opinion around and make you a Trump supporter?

And btw -- Trump is NOT King. He said she "belongs in jail", Sparky.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-20   13:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#19) (Edited)

He said she "belongs in jail", Sparky.

SMH.

"BECAUSE YOU'D BE IN JAIL"

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004701741/trump- to-clinton-youd-be-in-jail.html


The guy's a TV caricature. Changes his script at will.  No results.

The Truth is not in him - and his little pissing contest with Putin is WAY over his head; and will get people killed - but not Cadet Bonespur's kids.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   13:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: VxH (#20) (Edited)

Btw -- you still FAIL EPICALLY to answer simple questions.

Who would you rather be President:

Hitlery OR Trump?

here's another:

Trump or Bush?

If not either, then WHOM??

Tick...tick...tick...

SMH.

"BECAUSE YOU'D BE IN JAIL"

You'd' = You WOULD

Would presupposes a future event.

Here's further help for you:

CONTEXT: "If it were up to me, she would be in jail."

The guy's a TV caricature.

Of what? You mean Trump's NOT actually President of the USA? You have to work on your definitions and English language skills.

Changes his script at will. No results.

No results?? He's actually been keeping political promises that he made. You'd have noticed if you weren't a Poodle of CNN/MSNBC or anti-Israel website...AND IF YOUR HAD AN ATTENTION SPAN OF A GNAT.

The Truth is not in him

PURE projection on your part. You on the Left wouldn't know the "truth" if it were jack-hammered into you.

...His little pissing contest with Putin is WAY over his head; and will get people killed - but not Cadet Bonespur's kids.

I had no idea you were this clueless and a yapping, worshiping parrot of the Left's lying narratives. #Sad.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-20   14:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#15)

Btw Nolu -- WHY are these people allowed to riot and assault people IN MASKS?? WITH impunity? Isn't this against the law?

Whether they can lawfully wear masks in public depends on the jurisdiction and whether they have a law against being masked.

Riot and assault are unlawful, with or without mask.

People are allowed to riot and assault people because law enforcement does not do its job, or more often, they are told to stand down and not do their job.

Take for example the official bitching that rabble in the street shut down an ICE facility for a week. When did the federal government lose the power to move rabble from the street? Interfering with the ability of ICE to conduct its business is a federal crime. What took a week? Getting authorization to act.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-20   16:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#21) (Edited)

He's actually been keeping political promises that he made.

Bull Shyte.

Hillary In Jail? NO.

Obama care repealed? NO.

Etc Etc.

Sure managed to kiss the ass of the Jeeewrusalem sodomite poodle tribe though, ehh?

.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   18:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nolu chan (#22)

Btw Nolu -- WHY are these people allowed to riot and assault people IN MASKS?? WITH impunity? Isn't this against the law?

Whether they can lawfully wear masks in public depends on the jurisdiction and whether they have a law against being masked.

Riot and assault are unlawful, with or without mask.

People are allowed to riot and assault people because law enforcement does not do its job, or more often, they are told to stand down and not do their job.

Take for example the official bitching that rabble in the street shut down an ICE facility for a week. When did the federal government lose the power to move rabble from the street? Interfering with the ability of ICE to conduct its business is a federal crime. What took a week? Getting authorization to act.

BTW,nolu,I am in total agreement with everything you wrote that I quoted.

The job of the police today,and since the day the first policemen were hired was to please the people that keep them employed and who pay them. Anybody that thinks any different just hasn't been paying attention.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-20   19:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: VxH (#23)

Sure managed to kiss the ass of the Jeeewrusalem sodomite poodle tribe though, ehh?

WTF? Are you seriously trying to claim all Jews are sodomites and dogs?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-20   19:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#25)

Who legalized sodomy, again, in 1963?

Who ran the Poodle Dog whore house?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   21:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: VxH (#26) (Edited)

Who legalized sodomy, again, in 1963?

Someone who thinks that Americans are a FREE PEOPLE,and individuals who have the FREEDOM to have any sort of consensual sex with another adult they want to have?

Seems to me you think Americans should only be free to have government-approved sex.

Who ran the Poodle Dog whore house?

I have no idea,since that isn't the sort of thing I am interested in.

Since you know so much about it,why not tell us?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-20   23:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#27)

>>Who ran the Poodle Dog whore house?

I have no idea

Fredrich Drumpf - Donald Trump's grandfather.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   23:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: VxH (#28) (Edited)

Fredrich Drumpf - Donald Trump's grandfather.

I know he ran whorehouses. What of it? You blame the grandson for the alleged "sins" of the grandfather?

I know nothing about sex with poodles,and leave that to people like you who are more knowledgeable.

BTW,are you trying to claim that Trumps grandfather invented whore houses?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-20   23:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29) (Edited)

are you trying to claim that Trumps grandfather invented whore houses?

No. just pointing out where (D)onny Bone Spur's fortune came from.

Drumpf is that, Jewish?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-20   23:56:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: VxH (#28)

Yet you voted for him knowing that. You're as confused as Bruce Jenner.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-20   23:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)

I voted for "You'd be in jail".

He LIED.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-21   0:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: VxH (#23)

Jews are superior to you and will always have more then you do. Losers covet what more successful people have. I'm sorry you apparently come from a family of losers who don't look after each other.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-21   0:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: VxH (#32)

That isn't politically wise at the time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-21   0:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

Jews are superior

You mean Korah, the Pharaoh's treasurer, and his "line"?


Rev 2:9
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV

VxH  posted on  2018-07-21   0:09:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

 losers who don't look after each other.

"Although he guided investments into blue-chip firms, including Michelin, De Beers and IBM, it was said that Baron de Rothschild's greatest role was overseeing an aggressive expansion of investments overseas,"

http://www.washingtonpo st.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/13/AR2007061302318.html

 

Ol' Baron's snakes "looked after" what, 6 million and change.. into the ol' Molochian BBQ, ehh?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-21   0:24:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: VxH (#35)

Are you under the delusion that I read your propaganda? You're a bigger idiot than Chan is making you out to be.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-21   3:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#22)

Whether they can lawfully wear masks in public depends on the jurisdiction and whether they have a law against being masked.

Riot and assault are unlawful, with or without mask.

People are allowed to riot and assault people because law enforcement does not do its job, or more often, they are told to stand down and not do their job.

In a nutshell: ONLY THE LEFT is allowed to go on the offensive in Dem-Controlled cities and states. WITH IMPUNITY. While Conservatives are penalized for defending themselves.

Take for example the official bitching that rabble in the street shut down an ICE facility for a week. When did the federal government lose the power to move rabble from the street? Interfering with the ability of ICE to conduct its business is a federal crime. What took a week? Getting authorization to act.

Yeah, and I wish SOMEONE in this gummint can explain why ICE as a feral LE, and ICE agents *personally* have been enabled to be harassed by Leftist rabble who are repeatedly committing feral crimes.

So it can be established that:

a) Wearing masks in the process of disturbing the peace, intimidation and harassment IS illegal

b) What we are seeing is the obvious Stand Down orders given by Democratic PTB that deprive Conservatives/Trump-Supporter of their civil rights.

The function of LE in these areas of jurisdiction are either to BACK UP and defend the criminality of outlaw Left; OR act as body-guards and armor for them. (meanwhile conservatives who dare defend themselves are held to the most minute letter of the law)

c) We have been witnessing select enforcement of the law (Constitutional and otherwise) in ALL city and state controlled by Democrats.

d) Constitutional "Equal Protection" has been anything BUT

e) Democrats nationwide in positions of power and governance (see NYC, DC, Berkeley, SF, Charlottesville, etc) are violating the civil rights of conservatives WHILE enabling and promoting lawlessness

We very close to the full-blown anarchy the Left and 0bama Inc has been planning. The insanity from the Left MUST be shut down -- sooner rather than later.

Rhetorical Question: WHY haven't any lawsuits been filed by the DoJ or any other civil/conservative group or persons?

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-21   13:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#38)

So it can be established that:

a) Wearing masks in the process of disturbing the peace, intimidation and harassment IS illegal

It is ONLY illegal if those wearing the mask are not the offsprung of prominent politicians or other wealthy crooks who plan on future runs for political office,and need to keep their identity hidden.

Try going to a KKK rally wearing a mask and see how long THAT lasts.

Not that I have any sympathy for Kluxxers. I don't,but we are supposed to have equal treatment in this country,and if it is ok for the black and brown idiots to do it,it should also be just peachy-keen for the kluxxers to do it.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-21   19:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)

VxH  posted on  2018-07-21   21:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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