The Left's War On Christians
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Title: Bill Maher vs. an intelligent Christian (Maher loses). *mirror*
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Published: Jul 18, 2018
Author: NA
Post Date: 2018-07-18 14:06:01 by VxH
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#21. To: Vicomte13 (#16)
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But it's not illegal to give an STD to someone, is it - Mr. Universal Reprobate. Maybe it should be. With the death penalty for repeat offenders. And maybe a nice cup of Socratic hemlock for any Shyster Lawyer who facilitates the corruption of Youth, too.
Well, I certainly have no problem with Natural Law running its course. Them's the breaks. It doesn't seem to be fast enough or complete enough in its coverage for you, so you've got to dream up additional things, human penalties, the death penalty. You're not content to let Nature do her bit, you've got to be sure that you catch and punish that larger number of people who do what you don't like and who come through unharmed. Nature didn't harm them, dammit, so now YOU'RE determined to do it. This is why American law and governance is a whole lot more like me and a whole lot less like you. No amount of raging distemper on your part can change that. In fact, when I'm placed alongside of you and we both talk, people realize that you're mean and crazy, and that while I clearly have religious ideas that are far from the mainstream, my general approach to people is reasonable, tolerant, peaceable and charitable. Given the choice between me and my kind, and you and yours, the bulk of the people will choose me and mind, because they don't want to be oppressed and bullied, and you and yours are ready to put people to death for not following your cranky little belief system. But hey, you do you, I'll do me, and you'll get more and more bitter as the years pass and things drift further and further away from you. I'll be just fine.
Yes, it is. If you know you have an STD and you do not inform your sexual partner, and she gets it, you are liable for damages in all jurisdictions in America, and guilt of assault in many.
Who is facilitating the corruption of youth? Better not lapse into libel there. It is illegal to falsely accuse people of infamous crimes. I have not corrupted any youth since I WAS a youth corrupting myself, 40 years ago. You can go down these crazy roads, but you had better bite your tongue before you start accusing me of specific crimes or I will silence you by legal force.
Who's accusing YOU? LOL. Perhaps thou dost protest too much, Delusional, Universal, Anonymous, Idiot.
What the path to Vicomte-ville looks like: ============================= (1) When I was a boy, I dove off a dock into a shallow, rocky lake alone. I broke my neck and severed by spinal cord, and was completely paralyzed and drowning at the bottom of the like. I asked God "Please", and he healed me and allowed me to rise and walk away. I told no one until decades later. (2) A very dead lizard was raised from the dead in my hand by God, when I asked him "Please". (3) A dead mouse was raised from the dead in my hand by God, when I asked him "Please". ============================== Have a nice batshytecrazy day, Your Worshipfulness.
You mock things that are true: God healed my neck, and God raised two dead animals in my hands. He also flew the spirit into my face in the form of a bird to drive off a demon, spoke with me, pressed me into the black abyss and gave me a glimpse of one gate of the City, from below and afar. These things are so, which is why I know that God is. You'll find out it's true when you die.
You're a Universally Delusional, Reprobately Minded, Bullshyte artist. NO SALE.
Get a room with interpreter. If it kicks you out of bed, get a room with tater.
Not trying to make a “sale” to you. I do not care what you believe or don’t believe. When you mock me for the things that God has done for me, you’re not hurting my feelings, you’re raging at things you don’t comprehend.
I comprehend you're a delusional idiot with a reprobate mind - Just like the self-worshiping technocrats described in Romans Chapter 1.
Whatever.
Jude 7 7 NIV Bon Appetit', Princess.
LOL. Mr. Naval Aviator doesn't know who the "Father of the New Left" was.... after Herbie helped instigate the Cold War from the arse/OSS/CIA of the swamp with his analysis of Soviet Economics. Figures.
You had a dream. Read the Bible to really know God. Or don't and remain willingly ignorant.
Who cares if he knows or doesn't know some obscure historical figure.
Marcuse's role in the demoralization of American Culture is particularly notable:
Figures. I was flying aircraft and driving ships during those years, and I've been doing paid work as a lawyer since then, and occasionally slumming on the Internet in place like this, not learning trivia.
No, I didn't. I've read the Bible cover to cover 8 times on account of those events, and delved deeply into specific passages in the original languages for the purpose of really understanding exactly what was meant. I'm not remotely ignorant. Rather, I come to different conclusions than you do about what God wants based on my talking to him and reading the Bible. And I don't attack anybody based on his religious beliefs, but I always defend myself. I know what I believe and why I believe it, and I promise you that insult is not effective in persuading me of anything.
And yet you're still a reprobately minded Idiot - for whom "Do what thou wilt" is essentially the whole of the law. FAIL.
A Military Industrial cash-cow goon who couldn't even manage his money.
I managed my money just fine. Being a victim of theft is not poor money management, it's bad luck.
Stupid is as stupid does. Who stole your money again, Captain Super Genius?
FAIL. Not even close. I am a self-disciplined person who stays inside of the moral law to the greatest extent that I am reasonably able. The law I speak of is not the moral law, which I keep, it is the civil law - the question of what the law of the state, enforced by the guns of the police, should be. That's a very different matter, because of people like you, who are ready to sentence people with STDs to death. Precisely because evil people like you are so hellbent on oppression, the enforced law and what the police are allowed to attack with drawn guns needs to be very severely limited - if you had your way we would live in a police state. And that means TOLERATING things I don't personally do. It's a mature and reasoned approach to a nettlesome issue. While you're out there obsessively learning trivia about obscure figures, others of us are thinking about practical reality. And voters want pragmatism, not fever swamp ideology. That's why the laws and the policies of the country look and sound and feel a whole lot like me - a tolerant person with Christian ethics - than like you. It's why the laws always will. See, I understand you and your ilk. You're out there on the spectrum, fascinated by unimportant things, without the capacity to get along with other people very well. And that's ok. We all have our crosses to bear. But you are not capable of understanding someone like me. You see tolerance - meaning the unwillingness to let laws be enacted to govern personal behavior too much - as being the same thing as approval of immorality. You're literally not capable of distinguishing the difference because of your borderline autism. So you attack somebody like me, who is tolerant, as a reprobate. What you fail to understand because you literally cannot understand it, due to your disorders, that the reason for my tolerance, and the tolerance of most of us good people in the society, is NOT because we are reprobates, but because we recognize that the police and courts and the other authorities often ARE reprobates in their own right - oppressive, domineering, intrusive - and we've made the mature decision to tolerate personal immorality in the society BECAUSE we don't want to have to tolerate being ruled over by Hessians. You're never going to be able to get it, because of your disorder - that's what makes you post such distempered nonsense on an obscure website. And somebody like me has compassion for you, to the extent that we don't just unload on you and tear you apart every time you go on some sort of bile- spewing tear. We know you're an angry, lonely old man who doesn't relate well to others, and we TOLERATE you in all of your vituperative intolerance. But in the end, we are tolerant not because we are reprobates, but because we don't want nutjobs like you controlling the laws and unleashing the police to oppress everybody over small beer morals crimes, "because it's the LAW". We know, from long experience, that there is a type of man who will do exactly that - and you're a shining example of it. So, to prevent that from happening, to prevent your ilk from ruling the roost, we roll back the law and tolerate more. Do what you wilt is not the whole of the law. It's not even the point of the law. It is, rather, "Stay within these really wide boundaries - and you cops, stay OUT of these boundaries. My motivations are altogether different from what you accuse me of, which is why your unhinged lunatic charges and accusations never do anything. You're not really striking a blow for anything, you're like a deranged clown smearing shit all over himself in the street. I'll bring you some lemonade and we can have a conversation if you'd like, but if you've gotta just scream and smear the shit, well, then, to quote a frequent poster on this site: "bon appetit".
Somebody emptied my accounts while I was off at war, the first time. The owner of the business for whom I worked the second time. Stop with the "Captain Super Genius" shit. It's stupid.
Lying SOS as usual. Repeat offenders who give STD's to others. Who stole your money?
Being a victim of crime is being stupid? Yeah, there's a reason that we don't govern this country based on the ideas of people like you. And we never, ever will.
You mean the caretaker of your Father, don't you? Wasn't that your story - he got the mail?
Repeat offenders who give STD's to others. That is sentencing people to death for giving people STDs. Not a lie. A direct quote.
Who are you to be questioning me?
No. That was the first time. I was at war. My mail went home. My father's caretaker intercepted it and emptied my accounts while I was in Kuwait. You said stupid is as stupid does. I was really stupid to risk my life for assholes like you.
Yeah, you're a lying sack of shyte. But it's not illegal to give an STD to someone, is it - Mr. Universal Reprobate. Maybe it should be. With the death penalty for repeat offenders. And maybe a nice cup of Socratic hemlock for any Shyster Lawyer who facilitates the corruption of Youth, too.
So you were too stupid too take care of your own money - TWICE! LLLLLLLLLL! OOOOOOOOOO! LLLLLLLLLL!
Nah. Stupid is letting some AIDs-riddled faggot steal your money. What "bidness" was this "second time"? That's a new contortion of your pathological delusion/tale.
I see. So, you are going off to war, and you elect to have your financial mail sent to your home, where you grew up, because you don't want sensitive financial information in mail sacks all over the freaking Pacific and Middle East. You go off to war, and your mail is duly sent home. Your parent is sick, and elects to have somebody he knows help take care of him, and this caretaker collects the mail from the mailbox out front, and takes your mail, opens it, and during your 8 month absence (because you're off at sea and in the desert fighting for your country) he has plenty of time to redeem your accounts - as you - and write checks from your bank account - as you - and walk away with the money. You know none of this until you return stateside, half a year later. And this is stupidity on my part? You're an asshole, pur et dur. Nothing more. No more questions from you. Who are you to question me? If the country were filled up with people like you, it would not be worth defending. Fortunately it isn't. And fortunately, the government and law of the country resembles me, and not your ridiculous beliefs.
Hundreds of thousand of veterans went off to war Most of them managed not to get bankrupted by some AIDs-riddled faggot. But not you.
Vic my point was to read it like it is true.
Most of them managed not to get bankrupted by some AIDs-riddled faggot. But not you. And some of those veterans had bad people do bad things to their property, and to their families, while they were gone over the horizon, out of touch and unable to do anything about it. You would blame the unlucky for things out of their control, and try to make a moral point of it. This is because you are an evil, stupid little man. And that is why our laws, government, policies - everything - frustrate you and always will. You would punish people and degrade them for bad luck, and for the evil that other men do to them. This is nothing like the justice of the God whom you like to quote - and whom you will someday meet (as we all). In a similar vein, no doubt you care nothing for the poor widows left behind because their provider was run over by a drunk driver. He shouldn't have been walking in the crosswalk when the guy drove by, similar nonsense. Bad things happen to good people, and when they do, good people don't ridicule the good people for their misfortune. You do. This is because you're a bad person, an asshole. You do you. Nobody can stop you. What we, as a people collectively, CAN do, and DO do, is not let your sort of distempered, unjust, nasty, evil view of the world prevail in our laws. We don't rule ourselves by the ridiculous standards of judgment you use, but by something more reasonable and compassionate. And you RAIL against that fact all the time. You're a very unhappy fuck because you see the country going to hell all around you, because not one of your "sacred principles" governs the place. Rather, the laws and the structures of society look a whole lot more like the basically compassionate things that I say. Most people are like me, as far as giving a shit about what happens to other people. There are people like you. They collect on cranky chat boards and rage at the moon. And that's all you will ever do: rage at the moon about how everything has gone to shit in a country you don't control, and never will, because all of us folks don't let people like you win and set the rules. The one thing you will do is pay your damned taxes so that we can get on with what has to be done. Your way is nasty, and we're not going to do it your way. We've had your input, we disagree, you lose, but you're still going to pay, what we, not you, decide you're going to pay, and we're going to use your money to do what we, not you, think is necessary. And you're going to rage about it until the day you die. And nobody cares. Except that it puts a smile on my face to know how much you hate it, how much you feel that you are being ROBBED every time you pay 30% of your income over to support programs that I believe in and you hate. But you WILL PAY, or officers owill come and shoot your sorry ass or put you in a cage. So in the end you can spit at me all you like, and hate what I believe in, bur you will SUBMIT to the laws of the land, that I agree with about 95% and have my own little hand in helping prop up - both defending them overseas back then, and supporting them and carrying them out today, but that you despise. Yu will sit in front of your keyboard and rage about it, and try to troll people like me on the Internet, but you will obey me in the most important way possible: by forking over a substantial portion of your wealth every year, and in every transaction, to uphold and strengthen the imposition of my moral values upon you. Your moral values are shit, and you will never win. And that gives me the last laugh. So go fuck yourself, but pay up. Asshole.
I do exactly that. I read it very carefully. And I see that there are seams in it, places where one figure says one thing, and another says something different. The more one reads it, the more this becomes obvious. The question then becomes: how does one square these things together. The answer is that one looks at the authority within the text: if God is saying it one place, and a prophet is saying something a bit different somewhere else, then logically one goes with God, not God's 2nd Lieutenant. And one asks God for guidance. One can also look to the opinions of the Church, as a third place to go, but the Christian churches themselves are so numerous precisely because they have different opinions on these very things. When there is conflict between Christians, as there has been between you and me, there is a tendency for one side to accuse the other of being ignorant, or of being self-willed and ignoring God. The accusation could be made both ways. In the past, I have replied in kind. I don't see any real utility to it. Now, instead, I just point out that I am not ignorant. I've read it, and I do read it like it is true. But it conflicts. That is true too. And to figure out which way to go in the conflict, I need more than "Well, I like this answer better than that one." So I do the research into the words, and I ask God. And I come to different conclusions that other Christians on some matters. This does not mean that I am not treating something as if it were true. To my mind, it means that they aren't treating the most important things as though they were true. But I'm wise enough to know that they're not intentionally misreading it. They're not wise enough to realize that with regards to me. I'm wise enough to know that second thing also. So, then, what do I DO about that difference? What I do is to try to maintain my sense of humor, and not exchange insult for insult. But I am only human, and when goaded past reason I lash out like anybody else. VxH, for example, is a troll, and a petty one at that. My patience for abuse has worn out, and I'm delivering it back, in a way that satisfies me. That's not turning the other cheek, I know, and I'll tire of doing it a long time before he'll tire of trolling, because he's a nasty little man with little else to do all day, and I'm not. I'm not sure what else I can say about this. I can note that what is NOT true is that I DON'T read, see conflict, and then choose to go down the path of least resistance or the path that I like best. An example of this is the law of divorce. There is divorce allowed in the Torah. But Malachi makes it clear that God hates it. And Jesus flatly calls remarriage after divorce adultery (with a single asterisk in Matthew). Nearly all of the Christian Churches but one allow remarriage after divorce. One of the major ones was literally FOUNDED to let a king divorce and remarry. I do not honestly, in the depths of my heart and mind, see how anybody can read Jesus and think that it is permissible to divorce and remarry. He's so clear. And yet most of the Christian Churches do so, not because God said it was ok: he condemned it expressly. They do it because it's TOO HARD, what Jesus said. It's too hard, and they don't want to do it. So suddenly these very same people who will accuse me of, say, idolatry, because my church has statues of Mary (that I myself don't pray to, incidentally), are in churches that allow divorce and remarriage. They have no words of God, from that Bible, to justify that. Jesus is so clear. But they do it anyway, because it's just TOO HARD to not allow divorce and remarriage. These people cannot, then, expect me to agree with them that their interpretations of the Bible on other things are correct. The criticism is just hypocrisy. I don't get angry about it. I just walk away. What God says in the Scripture is true. But different people read different things when they read Scripture, because Scripture actually SAYS different, often opposing things in different places. One must parse it properly. The tool I use to do that is to find the specific words said by Jesus, by YHWH, by the Father, by God - the words that proceed forth out of the mouth of God Himself - and use THAT as the final tiebreaker, the governing language, the Final Authority. That takes me to a different place than people who use some other voice in the Bible as the Final Authority. Some of the folks who do the latter accuse me of not believing the Bible. Inside, I accuse them of the same thing, but I rarely say it, because what good will that do? It's just like any legal text. We read the same WORDS, but we understand different things from them. Lots of people then cook off and call the people who read it differently evil, wrong, immoral, power-hungry, etc. I'm part of that calmer minority who realizes that words themselves have different meanings, and that people are not necessarily being manipulative when they read things differently. Trouble is, any sort of understanding approach like mine takes a lot of words to express, while an accusation can be hurled in a sentence, so the more pacific folks, like me, can never rule the day in, say, an online forum, because it takes a lot of words to put things right, but only a few words to accuse. it is always easier to destroy than it is to build. Look at how VxH uses a few nasty, mocking words, and how many words it takes to repair the damage he looses. That's why they say "Don't feed the trolls." If I could censor him, would I? Probably not. The most Christian thing to do would be to turn the other cheek and just walk away. I'm still working on that, and obviously not succeeding all that well lately. Here's an example where I should listen to Jesus' advice and just do that. It would be better than raging stupidly at some cranky old man on a computer somewhere.
What was the "bidness" you got bankrupted by (the 2nd time) after the AIDs faggot bankrupted you the 1st time? It's amusing to watch a liar wiggle in their web - especially so with you!
Nobody disputes that STD's are a bad thing to catch.
#22. To: VxH (#20)
#23. To: VxH (#21)
But it's not illegal to give an STD to someone, is it
#24. To: VxH (#21)
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And maybe a nice cup of Socratic hemlock for any Shyster Lawyer who facilitates the corruption of Youth, too.
#25. To: Vicomte13 (#24)
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you had better bite your tongue before you start accusing me of specific crimes or I will silence you by legal force.
#26. To: Vicomte13 (#24)
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You can go down these crazy roads,
#27. To: VxH (#26)
#28. To: Vicomte13 (#27)
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#29. To: Vicomte13, VXH, interpreter, tater (#27)
You mock things that are true: God healed my neck, and God raised two dead animals in my hands. He also flew the spirit into my face in the form of a bird to drive off a demon, spoke with me, pressed me into the black abyss and gave me a glimpse of one gate of the City, from below and afar. These things are so, which is why I know that God is.
#30. To: VxH (#28)
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#30)
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you’re raging at things you don’t comprehend.
#32. To: VxH (#31)
#33. To: Vicomte13 (#32)
#34. To: Vicomte13 (#6)
I don't know who Herbie Marcuse is
#35. To: Vicomte13 (#27)
#36. To: VxH (#34)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#36)
Who cares if he knows or doesn't know some obscure historical figure.
#38. To: VxH (#34)
LOL. Mr. Naval Aviator doesn't know who the "Father of the New Left" was.... after Herbie helped instigate the Cold War from the arse/OSS/CIA of the swamp with his analysis of Soviet Economics.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)
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You had a dream. Read the Bible to really know God. Or don't and remain willingly ignorant.
#40. To: Vicomte13 (#39)
I've read the Bible cover to cover 8 times on account of those events,
#41. To: Vicomte13 (#38)
I was flying aircraft and driving ships during those years,
#42. To: VxH (#41)
A Military Industrial cash-cow goon who couldn't even manage his money.
#43. To: Vicomte13 (#42)
Being a victim of theft
#44. To: VxH (#40)
And yet you're still a reprobately minded Idiot - for whom "Do what thou wilt" is essentially the whole of the law.
#45. To: VxH (#43)
Who stole your money again, Captain Super Genius?
#46. To: Vicomte13 (#44)
who are ready to sentence people with STDs to death
#47. To: VxH (#43)
Stupid is as stupid does.
#48. To: Vicomte13 (#45)
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The owner of the business for whom I worked the second time.
#49. To: VxH (#46)
Lying SOS as usual.
#50. To: VxH (#46)
Who stole your money?
#51. To: VxH (#48)
You mean the caretaker of your Father, don't you?
#52. To: Vicomte13 (#49)
#21. To: Vicomte13 ( #16) (Edited)Nobody disputes that STD's are a bad thing to catch.
#53. To: Vicomte13 (#51)
No. That was the first time.
#54. To: Vicomte13 (#45)
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Stop with the "Captain Super Genius" shit. It's stupid.
#55. To: VxH (#54)
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Nah. Stupid is letting some AIDs-riddled faggot steal your money.
#56. To: Vicomte13 (#55)
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#57. To: Vicomte13 (#39)
#58. To: VxH (#56)
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Hundreds of thousand of veterans went off to war
#59. To: A K A Stone (#57)
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Vic my point was to read it like it is true.
#60. To: Vicomte13 (#58)
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