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Title: The irrational hysteria over Trump and Putin
Source: American Thinker
URL Source: http://.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... eria_over_trump_and_putin.html
Published: Jul 17, 2018
Author: Steve McCann
Post Date: 2018-07-17 16:30:22 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 10460
Comments: 48

The irrational hysteria over Trump and Putin

By Steve McCann
American Thinker
July 17, 2018

I spent a good part of yesterday watching the vast army of those incapable of generating an original thought – namely, the majority of talking heads on radio and television as well as politicians in both parties, droning on about the disaster that was the Trump-Putin press conference in Helsinki. Once the first narrative was proffered by one of this gaggle, the rest dutifully repeated the talking points as if they were ventriloquist dummies. The bottom line: Trump is a buffoon inalterably subservient to the puppet master, thus betraying his country.

Having watched the press conference, I did not come away this inane version of events.

I come to this subject matter of Donald Trump as someone, during the primary season of 2016, who was unalterably opposed to him, going so far as to write an article, "Why I cannot vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton." However, in November, when standing in the voting booth, staring at the ballot and the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency, I voted for Trump. I am still bothered by some of his mannerisms and, at times, his buffoonish governing style as well as his refusal to address out-of-control spending. But, on the whole I am gratified that he has successfully pursued a predominantly conservative agenda at home and an America First agenda overseas, despite the constant ankle-biting by the mainstream media and the Washington Establishment's determined use of its considerable arsenal to marginalize and ultimately obliterate his presidency.

Regarding the Helsinki press conference and his performance, I come to that issue from the perspective of someone who has experienced firsthand the horrors and the travails of those who survived the most devastating war in human history and the travails extant in the immediate aftermath. I do not wish to see, in my lifetime or in the future, the world again subject to a conflict of that magnitude, made possible by a careless remark or insult or the egocentricity of a megalomaniac.

There is no question that Russia and China are this nation's primary geopolitical foes. While the current Russian Federation is not as powerful as its predecessor, the Soviet Union, it is, nonetheless, a formidable adversary, particularly with Putin at the helm. There is little doubt that the Russians spied on the United States and attempted to sow the seeds of discontent during the 2016 election. Almost as soon as the old Soviet Union was born in the 1920s, it, as national policy, cast a wide net of espionage and destabilization throughout Europe and America. America responded slowly and did not fully reciprocate with its own espionage activities until after World War II and the dawning of the Cold War. This chess match is now approaching its 90th anniversary.

However, it was the Obama cabal, including the hierarchy of the intelligence services, together with the now left-wing Democratic Party in alliance with the mainstream media that changed the understanding and rules of the game. In a planned and well executed strategy highlighted by shouting from the rooftops about fictitious collusion with Russia by the Trump campaign, the old rules were discarded as the special counsel, Robert Mueller, has been forced, in order to justify his existence, to criminally indict numerous Russian nationals who will never stand trial in the United States.

This derisible tactic is not only unprecedented in the international spy and destabilization game, but foolish beyond measure, as similar retaliation for American spying is now on the table. Listening to the reaction of the rabble to Trump's performance at the Helsinki press conference, one would assume that the only acceptable course for him to take was to verbally punch Putin in the nose.

Why are those so eager to see Trump humiliated and undermined so willing to denigrate and provoke this nation's historical rival? What purpose would it have served to gratuitously insult Putin in front of the entire world? Is destroying Trump of such paramount importance that the potential of Russian retaliation could escalate into further reprisals on both sides leading to a possible lethal conflict as Putin is first and foremost a nationalist and not the most stable of international leaders?

Could Trump have chosen his words better regarding his confidence in the American intelligence community? Yes. But after nearly 18 months of unrelenting leaks and harassment, this same group, led by Robert Mueller, has made it exceedingly difficult to govern, and his annoyance and frustration bubbled out. It should not have, but, nonetheless, it is understandable, as 14 months of Mueller's investigations has revealed no criminal activity by the Trump campaign despite desperately seeking collusion under every rock.

Unlike so many others, I do not want any president of the United States to gratuitously and publicly insult an adversary, be it Russia or China, but instead to hammer out difficult issues in private. Over the history of mankind, too many conflicts and resultant casualties have occurred because of the egocentricity of the leaders over minor issues. Regardless of the hysteria, the Russian attempt to sow chaos during the 2016 election season is a minor issue, as the attempt was not only largely unsuccessful, but amateurishly executed.

Thank you, Donald Trump, for not succumbing to the rabble and instead leaving the door open for candid communication with Russia when and if a major crisis rears its ugly head.

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

"resident Donald Trump says he meant the opposite when he said in Helsinki that he doesn't see why Russia would have interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections.

Back at the White House on Tuesday, the president told reporters that he said he meant he doesn't see why Russia "wouldn't" be responsible.

He also said he accepts the American intelligence community's conclusion that Russia interfered in the election, but he denied that his campaign had colluded in the effort."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump- white-house-putin-summit-163902954--politics.html

Was Trump being irrational... or just Trump?

Not that those are self-evidently mutually exclusive features of the Tweeter In Chief.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   16:39:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: nolu chan (#2)

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#4. To: VxH (#3)

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784535760418603012?lang=en

“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the Hemisphere....”

Hillary Clinton, May 2013 speech to the Brazilian bank Banco Itau, [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p.28]

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-17   22:01:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#4) (Edited)

Hillary's dream is not bad in and of itself. The problem is that getting from the real state of affairs to that ideal state requires going down the path of us heavily investing in, and developing, Latin America first, to bring them up to the North American level. THEN you can open the borders and not have a flood of refugees from desperation and poverty.

Open borders between France and Germany are fine, because nobody is driving tanks across that border anymore, and because the standard of living in both places is equally high. The differences between France and Germany, today, are basically climatic, linguistic and cultural, but not economic. If the Germans are more pulled to move to France than vice versa, it is because Paris is a more appealing place than Frankfurt (this is objectively true), and the weather of the French Mediterranean is much better than the weather on the Baltic Coast (this is indisputable). And so the Germans vacation and retire in France, more than the opposite. This is not a problem.

The differences between Latin America and the USA today are not like that. There is a wide economic gulf. Latin America is Christian - it shares moral values with the USA. It's Western - the legal and economic systems are essentially the same. But it's very poor, for a variety of historical, demographic, and climatic reasons. Hillary and her Democrat want to get the order of development wrong, and open the border NOW, as though the conditions already exist between the US and Mexico as exist between France and Germany.

But they don't. And opening the borders NOW means they never will. We do have to bring up Latin America. It is very much in our interests to do so. Hillary isn't wrong about wanting hemispheric free markets, free trade, green energy, and - eventually - the free flow of people. She's wrong in that she wants to start with the easy part: open borders, and she assumes that somehow that will lead to the rest.

It won't.

What it will lead to is the mass migration of Latin Americans into North America, to escape the poverty of their homelands. That is the INEVITABLE result of opening borders now. Sure, that will effect a leveling of North and Latin America - DOWNWARD towards the status quo of Latin America. Wrong answer.

Now, of course, the conservative right is also wrong. They don't give a good goddamn about our neighbors, and are content to let the hemisphere fester forever. There is a significant racial component behind their thinking - economically, their attitude is as dumb as a post. CLEARLY it would enormously benefit America - white America - to have a hemisphere-sized free trade zone IF that zone were like Europe. America would be the Germany of the Western Hemisphere: the most populous and productive place. Mexico would be like Spain - the sunny place to which people go to retire and have vacations. Everybody would live well, and believe me, Hispanics would not be leaving their sunny tropical paradises for the shitty weather and cold manners of North America if they had the economic opportunities in their home countries: the Spanish and the Italians do not migrate en masse to Germany, even though legally they CAN - they don't. Life in Spain and Italy is SO MUCH MORE pleasant than life in Germany, nobody makes the move North in Europe.

But that's ONLY because Italy and Spain and Southern France, while not AS rich, penny for penny, as industrial Germany, are pretty rich. They're well enough off, not feeling any pain, and half the pay is the view of the bay, so to speak.

THAT is the condition under which open borders can work. We're not there yet in the Americas. We COULD be. Our foreign aid and direct investment should be pouring into Latin America, not the Middle East. We should be striving at a governmental and private level to make Latin America our Southern Europe, to develop it, bring it up. That will stop the mass migration and give us huge markets. Everybody wins. THEN the border won't MATTER.

Hillary's dream is laudable, but the way Hillary and her ilk would go about it is pathological. Opening the borders will benefit Democrats electorally. But even on that the Democrats are shortsighted. The Democrat party as it exists is a liberal, white-controlled party of the educated upper middle class. Blacks and Amerindians and immigrants of all stripes are part of the "plantation" of voters who keep the Democrats in power, but the white liberals assume without thought that they will always remain the intellectual leaders of the party. And sexual libertinism, abortion and feminism are THE core values of the white liberal left - THAT is the liberalism THEY find central. They support social welfare in order to get Black, poor and Latino votes.

Because THEY are racists, they assume they are superior to the plantation voters below them, and when it comes to the blacks, they do have such a huge wealth and education superiority, and superiority of numbers, that they will never lose control of the party.

But Latinos are a different matter. As long as their numbers are limited by the fact of that Border that Hillary and her ilk hate so much, the white liberals will indeed hold the Democrat party. However, they make the erroneous assumption that Latinos will simply fall in line behind their leadership, so leaving the border open simply means the victory for the Democratic party with them, the white liberals, at the helm. That's why they are so gung ho for the open borders.

They're half right. Open borders DOES mean Democratic victory in election after election. And that means all of the social welfare any socialist could hope for.

BUT - and this is the huge but - Latinos are better educated, have better social systems: they take family seriously, accumulate quite a bit more money, fast, are very hardworking and have good business sense, and they come from political cultures in which they fight for dominance.

The notion that a Democrat Party whose base is 51% Latino is going to follow the leadership of old white lesbians, San Francisco gays and New York Jews is risible. The Latinos will take over the party, and change it to suit THEIR values.

Open Borders will get Hillary her dream of Democrat victory forever. But the Democrat party will be a Latino-majority, socialistic morally conservative party. Socially conservative, economically liberal. Hillary and her ilk would scream with rage - impotent rage - to find this happening. Blacks are appreciative of "what the Democrats have DONE for them" (this is misguided, but it isn't going to change). But Latinos simply need social welfare, and the Democrats provide it, so they vote for them. There is no loyalty AT ALL among Latinos to the social ideals of San Francisco and New York. Latinos have the moral values of Alabama coupled with the economic needs of poor blacks. And unlike the Blacks, who will never be a majority, leave those borders open and the Latinos will be.

Which will mean that Hillary's dream of a prosperous Latin America will never be achieved with open borders, her hidden dream of Democrat Party dominance will be, but the Democrat Party of the Latino future will have the current Democrats' economic values, but the social values of the right wing of the Republican Party.

Hillary and her ilk are too arrogant to understand that. They really believe that, somehow, old whites like them will retain power, and retain the social libertinism that is their raison d'etre. But Latinos don't buy the social liberalism stuff, and they are not changing into white Democrats. They're changing the Democrat Party into the PRI.

Sensible people need to prevail, keep that border closed, and mainline the foreign development aid into Mexico and Central America and South America. Bring the South UP, and we all prosper in the end.

Walling it off to rot harms us. So does opening up the border to let all of that move here en masse.

They are our neighbors and our brother and sister Christians. It is in all of our best interests to bring them up, fast. Then the border won't be NEEDED. Opening the Border is the LAST piece of the equation, an afterthought. We don't really need the border with Canada, but we DO need it with Mexico, for the time being. Our goal - for our OWN best interests - should be to develop Mexico such that we don't need that border anymore. We can get there, but not any time soon. Lowering the border means we have arrived, not that we're on our way.

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#9. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

But they don't. And opening the borders NOW means they never will. We do have to bring up Latin America. It is very much in our interests to do so. Hillary isn't wrong about wanting hemispheric free markets, free trade, green energy, and - eventually - the free flow of people. She's wrong in that she wants to start with the easy part: open borders, and she assumes that somehow that will lead to the rest.

Yes she is wrong and you are a globalist shill. Puke.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-18   16:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

you are a globalist shill

I'm a Catholic. It means "universal". If course I believe in bringing everyone up, especially longsuffering Christians like Latin Americans.

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#19. To: Vicomte13 (#11) (Edited)

I'm a Catholic. It means "universal". If course I believe in bringing everyone up, especially longsuffering Christians like Latin Americans.

You're a liar -- like the father of lies to whose body you and your Jesuit pope belong.

Your reprobate world view is raised in the spirit of anti-Christ, not by the temporal body and bride of Christ which is His Church.

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#20. To: VxH (#19)

You're a liar

Project much?

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#21. To: Vicomte13 (#20)

Your reprobate world view is raised in the spirit of anti-Christ, not by the temporal body and bride of Christ which is His Church.

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