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Title: Once Again, President Trump Is Magnificently Right—This Time About Russia
Source: PJ Media
URL Source: https://pjmedia.com/spengler/once-a ... -right-this-time-about-russia/
Published: Jul 16, 2018
Author: David P. Goldman
Post Date: 2018-07-16 19:51:31 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 8538
Comments: 69

Once Again, President Trump Is Magnificently Right—This Time About Russia

By David P. Goldman
PJ Media
July 16, 2018

President Trump offended the entire political spectrum with a tweet this morning blaming the U.S. for poor relations with Russia. “Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity,” the president said, and he is entirely correct. By this I do not mean to say that Russia is a beneficent actor in world affairs or that President Putin is an admirable world leader. Nonetheless, the president displayed both perspicacity and political courage when he pointed the finger at the United States for mismanaging the relationship with Russia.

Full disclosure: I was a card-carrying member of the neoconservative cabal that planned to bring Western-style democracy and free markets to Russia after the fall of Communism. As chief economist for the supply-side consulting firm Polyconomics, I got an appointment as an adviser to Boris Yeltsin’s finance ministry and made several trips to Moscow. Of course, the finance ministry really was a family office for Yeltsin’s oligarch friends, who were too busy stealing Russia’s economy to listen to advice. The experience cured me of the neoconservative delusion that democracy and free markets are the natural order of things.

Unfortunately, the delusion that the United States would remake Russia in its own image persisted through the Bush and Obama administrations. I have no reason to doubt the allegations that a dozen Russian intelligence officers meddled in the U.S. elections of 2016, but this was equivalent of a fraternity prank compared to America’s longstanding efforts to intervene in Russian politics.

The United States supported the 2014 Maidan uprising in Ukraine and the overthrow of the Yanukovych government in the hope of repeating the exercise in Moscow sometime later. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland pulled whatever strings America had to replace the feckless and corrupt Victor Yanukovych with a government hostile to the Kremlin. She didn’t say it in so many words, but she hoped the Ukraine coup would lead to the overthrow of Vladimir Putin. Evidently Nuland and her boss, Hillary Clinton, thought that the Ukraine coup would deprive Russia of its Black Sea naval base in Crimea, and did not anticipate that Russia simply would annex an old Russian province that belonged to Ukraine by historical accident.

[...]

The Maidan coup was the second American attempt to install a Ukrainian government hostile to Moscow; the first occurred in 2004, when Condoleezza Rice was secretary of State rather than Hillary Clinton. As I wrote in Asia Times a decade ago, “On the night of November 22, 2004, then-Russian president - now premier - Vladimir Putin watched the television news in his dacha near Moscow. People who were with Putin that night report his anger and disbelief at the unfolding 'Orange' revolution in Ukraine. ‘They lied to me,’ Putin said bitterly of the United States. ‘I'll never trust them again.’ The Russians still can't fathom why the West threw over a potential strategic alliance for Ukraine. They underestimate the stupidity of the West."

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#6. To: nolu chan (#0) (Edited)

It's all great... unless Anatoliy Golitsyn was right.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-16   22:03:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: VxH (#6)

It's all great... unless Anatoliy Golitsyn was right.

Golitsyn's decades old conspiracy theories were debunked by Ivan Petrovich Sidorov.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-16   23:23:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#7)

Survey Says, meet the New Nolu Bullshyte...

 


Same as the Old Nolu Bullshyte.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   0:19:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: VxH (#8)

Same as the Old Nolu Bullshyte.

Old? Golitsyn's book is 34 years old and Golitsyn is dead. Ivan Petrovich Sidorov remains current.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-17   0:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#9) (Edited)

Show us the URL to his "current" debunking or STFU.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   0:40:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: VxH (#10)

Show us the URL to his "current" debunking or STFU.

Show me the URL to Golitsyn's "current" debunking of Trump or STFU.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-17   1:14:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#11)

LOL.  How many results, Nolu Chow?

 

  Maybe if you Google it with your trusty TI calculator you can pull some "facts" out of your arse?

Or NOT... as usual.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   9:13:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: VxH (#15)

I see you are still incapable of using the Google to find Ivan Petrovich Sidorov and still have no clue who it is. Pathetic.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-17   23:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#31)

I see you are still incapable of using the Google to find Ivan Petrovich Sidorov

Well wire up that calculator and show us how it's done, Igor!

VxH  posted on  2018-07-18   12:58:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: VxH (#32)

Well wire up that calculator and show us how it's done, Igor!

Your apparent use of a calculator to search the internet may explain your continuing inability to identify Ivan Petrovich Sidorov.

Here's an Ivan Petrovich Sidorov that your calculator failed to find:

https://www.facebook.com/people/Ivan-Petrovich-Sidorov/100004557936311

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-18   16:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nolu chan (#33) (Edited)

Yawn. A FB link with no content. Is he as Current as Vlad Putin?


"I thought about something just now:

The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,"

Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM

VxH  posted on  2018-07-19   13:17:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: VxH (#34)

Yawn. A FB link with no content. Is he as Current as Vlad Putin?

What a stupid comment. Ivan Petrovich Sidorov is always current. He may be one of the most cited people in Russian litigation. You may be one of the least competent users of Google ever.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-19   15:00:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: nolu chan (#35) (Edited)

He may be one of the most cited people in Russian litigation.

And yet with regards to his/your alleged "debunking" of Golitsyn...

LOL. FAIL.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-19 16:20:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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