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Title: Libertarians on Liberty’s Post suppress dissent – Sad.
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Published: Jul 15, 2018
Author: Gatlin
Post Date: 2018-07-15 06:51:33 by Gatlin
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Views: 20946
Comments: 132

Libertarians on Liberty’s Post now find it perfectly acceptable to pursue the tyrannical practice of blacklisting anyone whose words offend their delicate sensibilities.

Unfortunately these narrow-minded individuals do not realize that the best remedy to validate their political ideology is to catechize remarks that disparage it by subjecting them to the crucible of open debate and rational inspection. Libertarians continually fail to show tolerance and adhere to cherished “libertarian” values while abdicating all confidence that their ideas will handily defeat opposition to their philosophy.

Libertarians propose the impossible and internally contradictory notion that they can support their cause with the angry suppression of free speech from anyone who speaks against them. They feel the remedy for comments and ideas they oppose is not the free and open debates of civil society, but a need to resort to Orwellian speech codes of an authoritarian dictatorship. Here, again, libertarians reveal their philosophy is a radical departure from a normal society and their unique iteration of fascism shares many of its historical and ideological roots.

Freedom of speech is arguably a most cherished value and the bedrock of a genuinely free society. The entire process of education and the freedom to challenge ideas is, and must be, predicated on unbridled freedom of speech and expression. Without this most cherished freedom, supporting and challenging ideas cannot be examined and assessed for their value and we will therefore live in a benighted world in which ideas are lost forever….flushed down the memory hole as too dangerous or offensive to the dainty sensibilities of libertarians who find these words offend them.

The validity of libertarian notions has been questioned and a morally consistent application of libertarian premises has been challenged in order to show why libertarians are mistaken about what their ideal requires. Libertarians generally defend the ideal of freedom from the perspective of how little one is constrained. Yet pragmatic criticisms of libertarianism now go unanswered because libertarians have moved to silence free speech. Sad, but so understandably predictable based on their rhetoric and actions.

Most of us aren’t defeated in one decisive battle. We are defeated in one tiny, seemingly insignificant surrender at a time that chips away at who we really should be.
Pathetic …

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#59. To: Deckard, Stoner, CZ82, EVERYBODY (#56)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

Now he's trying to claim that ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are not related.

Oh !!!

SPIN….SPIN….SPIN….

I am trying to make NO such claim.

I am only showing that Stoner EMPHATICALLY stated there were photos (two or more) showing “McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.” When there definitely are NONE

So, I made a mistake by typing “Liberty’s Post” when I meant to type “Liberty’s Flame.”

And then Stoner tried to make a Federal issue out of that mistake by calling all his fellow assholes together while he took bows.

Is there any end to his madness?
There can never be madness to making statements that are ACCURARE and TRUTHFUL. Not mistakenly identifying one group as a different group. But of course you will never realize this.
The Muslim Brotherhood’s Ties to ISIS and Al-Qaeda
I don’t give a fuck that the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to both ISIS and Al_Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is NOT ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

Stoner SPECIFICALLY posted there were photos (two or more) showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. He posted something that is untrue….TOTALLY UNRUE.

And you, Deckard, need to cease immediately trying to “cover up” Stoner’s “fuck up.”

So, I am here today to show Stoner, and the rest of you for that matter, that KARMA really is a BITCH.

There can be NO question that Stoner meant to state “ISIS” when he stated “Muslim Brotherhood.” Jut as I meant ot state “Liberty’s Flame” when I stated “Liberty’s Post.”

He made a mistake, just as I made a mistake. He gave me Hell fo rmy mistake and now he stand silent about his mistake….while you try to act as his “mouthpiece”.

Since I have now rubbed Stoner’s nose in his own shit, I feel completely vindicated. Thank you, Stoner.

I close this post by citing the Golden Rule: All you libertarian heathens MAY remember the "Golden Rule" was given by Jesus of Nazareth in (Matthew 7:12 NCV ( see also Luke 6:31). The common English phrasing is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Read that carefully, Stoner. And try….TRY….to apply it in your daily life, and especially to your postings on LF.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   11:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Stoner, Deckard (#57)

He is only happy if he is here trashing the place.
Nope. One reason I am here it to bring truth to lies….and I am doing a might fine job at that.

The remainder of your post is a personal attack. Someone resorts to personal attacks when they cannot present the truth or deny truth when it is presented to them.

All you are is Deckard’s “echo chamber” and “cheerleader.”

You really should get a life of your own.

But you can’t…can you?

You have become a parasite hanging onto Deckard.

Look at you now….sucking up to him and hiding in his shadow.

Sad …

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   11:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: hondo68 (#58)

Why do you post a picture of John Kerry with members of the Muslim Brtherhood when the discussion here is ONLY about alleged photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.?

Do you have photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   11:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin, Stoner (#59)

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Read that carefully, Stoner.

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.

Projection... is commonly found in the neurotic or psychotic in personalities functioning at a primitive level as in narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-17   11:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Stoner, Deckard, CZ82 (#62)

I hope I have made it perfectly that you FUCKED up, Stoner, when you misidentified “ISIS” as the “Muslim Brotherhood”.

Just as I fucked up when I typed “Liberty’s Post” instead of “Liberty’s Flame”.

So, the next time you try to launch a personal attack on me and ridicule something I posted….you damned well best make sure your house is in, and stays in proper order….because I will be coming back after your ass AGAIN.

BTW – The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified. You can check this out by starting here with Snopes. If you don’t want to believe Snopes, then there are many other sites who say the same thing. Look them up if you need to.


A photograph taken in Syria in 2013 shows Senator John McCain posing with a commander of a Syrian opposition group, not ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.


This is ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. He has a 10 million dollar bounty on his head and it is not likely that he would be meeting a US Senator with all the Senator’s security around. Also, it is reported that he had a beard when the group picture above was taken and he still had the beard after that picture wastaken.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:14:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Gatlin, Hillarys Freedom Fighters (#61)

Why do you post a picture of John Kerry with members of the Muslim Brtherhood

Thank you for your honesty in admitting that McCain & Lindsey are Muslim Brotherhood, although it's painfully obvious that you're dazed and confused.

Perhaps this pic will help to clear things up for you...

Rubio, Graham, McCain with Hillary's ISIS Muslim Brotherhood in Libya.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-07-17   12:26:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Deckard (#62)

Psychological projection….your libertarian dumb ass.

I definitely do unto others as I would have them do unto me.

When I do something wrong, and I do remember one time that I did….I expect others to come after me the same as I go after them.

This was just proven in the last posts I made …

I would have Stoner do unto me when he posted my mistake in typing “Liberty’s Post” instead of “Liberty’s Flame.” And I did unto Stoner what I would have him do unto me when I posted the mistake he made by misidentifying ‘ISIS’ as the “Muslim Brotherhood.” ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are NOT one and the same entity. They are entirely different.

So, THERE….you can now take your “copy and paste” psychology and shove it far up your libertarian ass.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Gatlin (#63) (Edited)

The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified.

Juan McCain, The Admiral's Military Industrial Teat-suckling son.



Perhaps in the next life he'll hatch from his tiny little chry$ali$ and become the mighty war moth he always wanted to be?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   12:31:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: hondo68, Deckard, Stoner (#64)

Rubio, Graham, McCain with Hillary's ISIS Muslim Brotherhood in Libya.
Your caption of that photo may be another of your many lies.

First of all, you are as stupid as Stoner….There is NO “ISIS Muslim Brotherhood.”

Secondly, as to the photo you posted:

All that is shown here is a bunch of Libyans smiling and making peaceful gestures unto three US Senators.

You may go now and get back to me when you can specifically point out and name any person in that group of Libyans that is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

You really do need to stop making up LIES …

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:44:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: VxH (#66)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange.
Perhaps …
Perhaps some day you will have enough sense to make an intelligent post relative to the discussion at hand.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Gatlin (#68) (Edited)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange.

Au contraire. Those memes (that's plural, Gatard) succinctly illustrate the nature of Juan and his like-minded Military Industrial parasites - with their probosci inserted firmly between the left and right arse cheeks of the "republic".

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   13:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tooconservative, Stoner, Deckard (#38)

I just don't get the payoff in doing it. It's a lot of work for something so counterproductive.

The "payoff" for a mental case or 4 year old is...attention.

But also it's the pathology of a bad actor exposed; a Leftist-Authoritarian ideologue with nothing left to do but stomp his/her feet.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-17   13:05:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: hondo68 (#64)

Perhaps this pic will help to clear things up for you...

Wow.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-17   13:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Stoner (#54)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

No, the poor embarrassing ACLU fool does NOT want more reinforcement that he's lost. And lost badly.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-17   13:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: VxH (#69)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange.

Au contraire.

Au contraire your ass.

You replied to a post where discussion was about a photo of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Specifically: “The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified.”

Your meme and incoherent rambling had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

I am only going to tell you one more time....FUcK OFF !!!

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   13:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Gatlin, snowflake, triggered by free speech, VxH (#68)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole

Only Gatlin has the free speech, us peons must STFU!

Yass, massa.

Hondo68  posted on  2018-07-17   13:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Gatlin (#68)

"Libertarians on Liberty’s Post now find it perfectly acceptable to pursue the tyrannical practice of blacklisting anyone whose words offend their delicate sensibilities."-

-Gatlin

"Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange."-

-Also Gatlin

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hyp·o·crite
ÈhipYÌkrit/
noun
  1. a person who indulges in hypocrisy.
    synonyms:pretender,  dissembler, deceiver,  liar, pietist,  sanctimonious person,  plaster saint ;

See Also:

Gatlin.

 

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   13:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Gatlin (#73)

 McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

 

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   13:19:53 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator, Stoner (#72)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

No, the poor embarrassing ACLU fool does NOT want more reinforcement that he's lost. And lost badly.

Lost HELL !!!

Stoner LIED. The web is NOT full of photos showing McCain with “members of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Smartass. you CANNOT even find ONE photo where Stoner claims shows “McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

You are contributing NOTHING factual to the discussion at hand.

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Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   13:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: hondo68, the proclaimed lying asshole on LF (#74)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole

Only Gatlin has the free speech, us peons must STFU!

Nope, Gatlin and two others I know, do challenge people to document their allegations and post facts.

Until someone can do that….they need to STFU.

If you have a problem with that….then that’s your PERSONAL problem.

Take care of it however you can….but don’t dare TRY to bother me with it.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   13:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: VxH (#76)

Rand Paul -- ONE guy in the GOP who said it. FINALLY. He's got principles and guts.

Why just now is someone in the GOP demanding the indictment of Hitlery?? It's truly amazing to watch factions of Republican Party openly collude with the Dems to openly take down America and the President.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-17   13:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Liberator (#79)

Why just now is someone in the GOP demanding the indictment of Hitlery?

Pssst:

"Published on Aug 11, 2016"

Meanwhile, in Banana Land:

I guess some folks just underestimated (D)onald's tribal affinity, or something.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   14:02:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Liberator, VxH, Stoner, Deckard, hondo68, Everyone (#79)

McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Rand Paul -- ONE guy in the GOP who said it. FINALLY. He's got principles and guts.

First of all, it was NEVER the “Muslim Brotherhood.” Stoner LIED when he made that maliciously unsubstantiated allegation. I have PROVEN this to be TRUE….that Stoner lied.

Secondly, you say that Rand Paul “SAID” it.

Wow!!!

So, because the “almighty” Rand Paul said it….then it is absolutely verified to be FACTUAL and completely believed beyond a shadow of a doubt?

Uh, I don’t think so.

The answer to the rhetorical question I posed is an unmitigated and resounding, HELL NO !!!

Rand Paul was duped….you hear me, duped…. as were a few other people.

Snopes and others have shown this rumor not to be true. Knowing you will never believe Snopes, then let’s go to another source that you also may or may not believe, The New York Times:

Rand Paul Eats Up Hoax That John McCain Met With ISIS.

The libertarian senator claims John McCain was pictured with the jihadists, even though that's been proven false.

In an interview with The Daily Beast on Tuesday, Sen. Rand Paul discussed the war against ISIS—and in doing so, repeated a thoroughly debunked rumor about John McCain palling around with the Islamic extremist group. Needless to say, a certain famously hot-tempered five-term senator and former presidential candidate was not at all amused.

“Here’s the problem,” Paul told The Daily Beast. “He [McCain] did meet with ISIS, and had his picture taken, and didn’t know it was happening at the time. That really shows you the quandary of determining who are the moderates and who aren’t. If you don’t speak Arabic, and you don’t understand that some people will lie to you—I really think that we don’t have a good handle on who are the moderates and who aren’t, and I think the objective evidence is that the ones doing most of the fighting and most of the battles among the rebels in Syria are the radical Islamists.”

Here’s the other problem: The rumor that McCain met with ISIS in northern Syria in May 2013 has been proven false. As reported by The New York Times, pictures of McCain meeting with members of the Free Syrian Army—who have historically opposed ISIS—have been seized upon by conspiracy theorists and McCain skeptics, some of whom have gone as far as to photoshop McCain pinning a medal on the chest of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Emboldening believers is the fact that McCain sometimes misspeaks, like on Monday evening on Fox News, when he asked "Has Rand Paul ever been to Syria? Has he ever met with ISIS?"

[…]

It really troubles me to do this, but I must:
      John McCain 1 / Rand Paul 0.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   15:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: VxH (#75)

Asshole
Adjective
ass hole
1. an adjective, used to describe an array of dispositions. it's hard to generalize assholes, because there are so many types. There's the stuck-up, superficial "i am better than everyone" asshole; There's the "i hate the world and everything in it" asshole; there's the "i'm pretending to be nice to your face, but later i'm going to talk all kinds of shit about you" asshole; goodness....the list goes on and on. In the end, we're all assholes....some of us are just better at it than others.

Also see VxH.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   15:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Gatlin (#81)

it was NEVER the “Muslim Brotherhood.”

{ shrug } I guess Omar Ibrahim al-Deeb didn't get the memo.

 

 

‘Disappeared’ Muslim Brotherhood member re-emerges with ISIS

Deeb’s story raised questions about ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS. 
Sunday 25/02/2018
Picture of Omar Ibrahim al-Deeb taken from ISIS video.  (Provided by 
Amr Emam)

https://thearabweekly.com/disappeared-muslim-brotherhood- member-re-emerges-isis

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   16:14:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Gatlin (#82) (Edited)

A while back I worked with a drunk who, every year at our company Christmas party, used to love telling the story about how he called Robert Redford an "asshole" when he was assigned a seat next to RR on a plane.

========================

Drunk: My wife will kill me if she finds out I sat next to you and I didn't get your autograph for her.

RR: Well then don't tell her.

Drunk: Don't tell her what?

RR: Don't tell her you sat next to me.

Drunk: You know what, you're an asshole.

========================

I explained that RR was simply responding to the disingenuous way he asked for RR's autograph; and raised the possibility that maybe RR wasn't the real asshole in his seating section.

The Drunk never told that story at our Christmas party again.

YMMV!

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   16:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Gatlin (#46)

The answer to your question is, No. That NEVER happened.

No? Then I must be thinking of he incident where you claimed you could shut the website down anytime you wanted, my mistake.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-17   18:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: CZ82 (#85)

... []}he incident where you claimed you could shut the website down anytime you wanted, my mistake.
Yea, you are mistaken….again.

That was buckeroo who said he could do that…..I remember that really well.

He actually did it late one night when we were the only two on the forum.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   19:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: CZ82 (#85)

where you claimed you could shut the website down anytime you wanted, my mistake.

That M. O. belongs to Ba ba ba Bucky the stupid Fucky. Not Gatlin.

I’d like to point out you hobknob with Buckster and all the paultards. What you just did to Gatlin is piss on him, then tell him it’s raining. Another M.O. of paultards

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-17   19:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Gatlin (#55)

There is NOT a SINGLE member of the “Muslim Broherhood” in THAT photo.

You sure about that?

Don't you recognize Mouaz Moustafa (on the far right in your pic) who is the head of the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF)? HINT: Which BTW is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-17   19:44:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Gatlin, buckeroo (#86) (Edited)

Yea, you are mistaken….again.

Not. It was when she was away on vacation or lying dead on the floor of her abode, one or the other. And I very clearly remember telling you and the Canaries you were all full of shit and then your backpedaling started and "magically" LP stayed online, go figure.

Why didn't you ping Bucky to this so he could comment? (That could be amusing).

You know I just got to thinking didn't Stone close out all of your other logons you had here? Wasn't it about 10-15 or so? You still have the 7 bozos I gave you or has Stone done you a favor and gotten rid of them?

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-17   19:49:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#87) (Edited)

Wow that was quick with a denial from both of you, all of 6 minutes apart but then you've always been connected at 2 body parts. Along with yukons, palmdales and a few others, (you guys all still living in the same basement) removing them would help you think more clearly.

By the way why don't you ask buckeroo how many times I've posted to him over the years, 10 times maybe...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-17   20:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Gatlin (#55)

Since you like McStain so much I figured you would enjoy this:

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-17   20:44:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: CZ82 (#90)

Wow that was quick with a denial from both of you, all of 6 minutes apart but then you've always been connected at 2 body parts. Along with yukons, palmdales and a few others, (you guys all still living in the same basement) removing them would help you think more clearly.

By the way why don't you ask buckeroo how many times I've posted to him over the years, 10 times maybe...

Wow... that was a quick denial from you... but you’ve always been paultard connected by way of agreeing with them all. Even if you’ve only agreed with Ba ba ba Fucky 10 times.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-17   21:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: CZ82 (#88)

There is NOT a SINGLE member of the “Muslim Broherhood” in THAT photo.

You sure about that?

Yes. I still stongly believe that. I have seen no evidence to prove otherwise.
Don't you recognize Mouaz Moustafa (on the far right in your pic) …
Of course I do. I have seen other pictures of him.
… who is the head of the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF)?

Yes, he is.

Actually, Mouaz Moustafa is SETF’s executive-director and he is a former field organizer for the U.S. Democratic National Committee and previously served as executive-director of the Libyan Council of North America.

HINT: Which BTW is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.
I don’t know where you are getting that information.

Can you please provide the URL source?

Here is the information I have:

The Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF) is a United States-based organization that advocates for the armed overthrow of the government of Syria. It first gained widespread public attention in the wake of the Elizabeth O'Bagy resume padding scandal; O'Bagy had served as a paid lobbyist for the group. The group's primary activity is advocating for U.S. military involvement in the Syrian Civil War through congressional office visits, media awareness campaigns, and organizing junkets for key U.S. foreign policy decisionmakers.[1] According to SETF, it is also committed to supporting the overthrow of the government of Cuba;[2] a statement co-signed by it and the Florida-based Cuban exile organization "Assembly of the Resistance" declared it would work for "the overthrow of the dictatorial regimes of Assad and Castro."[3]

SETF is indirectly funded by the U.S. State Department through contracting firms including Chemonics and Creative Associates International.[4]

SETF officials - including Moustafa and Chesley - have been widely cited in media reports on the Syrian Civil War and have been influential in advising United States policymakers on issues related to Syria. According to the group, SETF staff have held meetings with more than two-thirds of the membership of the U.S. Congress and have organized junkets for members of congress to visit selected regions in northern Syria.[2]

In 2013, an op-ed by political director Elizabeth O'Bagy was cited by Senator John McCain and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry during congressional hearings on possible U.S. military involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[11] O'Bagy was subsequently hired by McCain as a legislative assistant in the Arizona senator's Washington, D.C. office.

Nowhere….NOWHERE…can I find any information to show that SETF “is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

It is your “allegation” and it is your charge to “prove” it.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   22:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: CZ82, A K A Stone, CZ82 has a question for your (#89)

Yea, you are mistaken….again.

Not. It was when she was away on vacation or lying dead on the floor of her abode, one or the other. And I very clearly remember telling you and the Canaries you were all full of shit and then your backpedaling started and "magically" LP stayed online, go figure.

It NEVER happened...your memory is faulty.
... go figure.
Nothing to “figure”.
Why didn't you ping Bucky to this ...
Because he said he has me on bozo....so he will never see any ping from me.
... so he could comment?
Bucky is never going to admit he shut down LP that night. He would be crazy to do so.
(That could be amusing).
Everything Bucky says is amusing....some of it is so stupid that it’s actually hilarious.
You know I just got to thinking didn't Stone close out all of your other logons you had here?
Yep.
Wasn't it about 10-15 or so?
Nope.
You still have the 7 bozos I gave you ..
So? Why would you bozo me 7 times?
… or has Stone done you a favor and gotten rid of them?
I have no idea if he has or not.

Why didn’t YOU ping Stone so he could answer that question.

I will ping Stone for you now….then you can ask him.

Hey Stone, CZ82 has a question for you.
There you go …

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   23:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82 (#91) (Edited)

Since you like McStain so much I figured you would enjoy this:
Don’t like McCain at all. Don’t even vote for him. I have posted that before.

Is the meme the one you use to masturbate with, or do you atill have an old photo of Hillary you use?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   23:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: CZ82 (#88)

I am still looking at information on Mouaz Moustafa.

I found this;

Mouaz Moustafa was born and raised in Damascus, Syria before moving to the US as a teenager. He is the current SETF Executive Director. Political Director for UFS (United For a Free Syria), as well as a board member of the Coalition for a Democratic Syria (CDS). As former staffer for Congressman Vic Snyder and Senator Blanche Lincoln, Mr. Moustafa spent four and a half years working in Congress before leaving to work briefly with Egyptian opposition. Mr. Moustafa also worked with the Libyan Revolution. During this period, Mr. Moustafa was the Executive Director of the Libyan Council of North America (LCNA), Political Director of the Libyan Emergency Task Force (LETF), and worked closely with top officials within the Transitional National Council (TNC). Mr. Moustafa joined SETF in the fall of 2011 to help advocate on behalf of the pro-democracy movement in his native Syria. Moustafa boasts an extensive network of Syrian activists, opposition figures, and FSA commanders with whom he is in regular contact.

I still find nothing to show that “SETF is part of the Muslim Brotherhood”.

That is not surprising thought.

How are you coming on proving that it is?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   23:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Stoner, Tooconservative, Deckard, Gatlin (#22)

Last I heard, Liberty's Post is closed, and has been for some time now.

FYI, the Liberty Post archives are still there.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-17   23:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: nolu chan, redacted, censored, revisionist history, buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#97) (Edited)

FYI, the Liberty Post archives are still there.

It's revisionist history, censored to protect the guilty.

The yukon canary story - redacted

Hondo68  posted on  2018-07-18   0:00:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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