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Title: Libertarians on Liberty’s Post suppress dissent – Sad.
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Published: Jul 15, 2018
Author: Gatlin
Post Date: 2018-07-15 06:51:33 by Gatlin
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Views: 26834
Comments: 132

Libertarians on Liberty’s Post now find it perfectly acceptable to pursue the tyrannical practice of blacklisting anyone whose words offend their delicate sensibilities.

Unfortunately these narrow-minded individuals do not realize that the best remedy to validate their political ideology is to catechize remarks that disparage it by subjecting them to the crucible of open debate and rational inspection. Libertarians continually fail to show tolerance and adhere to cherished “libertarian” values while abdicating all confidence that their ideas will handily defeat opposition to their philosophy.

Libertarians propose the impossible and internally contradictory notion that they can support their cause with the angry suppression of free speech from anyone who speaks against them. They feel the remedy for comments and ideas they oppose is not the free and open debates of civil society, but a need to resort to Orwellian speech codes of an authoritarian dictatorship. Here, again, libertarians reveal their philosophy is a radical departure from a normal society and their unique iteration of fascism shares many of its historical and ideological roots.

Freedom of speech is arguably a most cherished value and the bedrock of a genuinely free society. The entire process of education and the freedom to challenge ideas is, and must be, predicated on unbridled freedom of speech and expression. Without this most cherished freedom, supporting and challenging ideas cannot be examined and assessed for their value and we will therefore live in a benighted world in which ideas are lost forever….flushed down the memory hole as too dangerous or offensive to the dainty sensibilities of libertarians who find these words offend them.

The validity of libertarian notions has been questioned and a morally consistent application of libertarian premises has been challenged in order to show why libertarians are mistaken about what their ideal requires. Libertarians generally defend the ideal of freedom from the perspective of how little one is constrained. Yet pragmatic criticisms of libertarianism now go unanswered because libertarians have moved to silence free speech. Sad, but so understandably predictable based on their rhetoric and actions.

Most of us aren’t defeated in one decisive battle. We are defeated in one tiny, seemingly insignificant surrender at a time that chips away at who we really should be.
Pathetic …

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

What a whiny bitch you are.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-07-15   10:33:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#1)

What a whiny bitch you are.

It's really quite pathetic.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-15   10:45:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#4)

He doesn't like our liberty to ignore his statist rants. Maybe that is at the root of his general hatred of liberty.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-07-15   10:48:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative, Deckard (#5)

" Libertarians on Liberty’s Post suppress dissent – Sad. "

Uh guys. Is someone delusional, hallucinating, or have they been consuming copious amounts of illegal substances ???

Last I heard, Liberty's Post is closed, and has been for some time now. Maybe whoever posted that title is a closet druggy, or has really serious mental issues !

Be best for that person to not try to operate a motor vehicle, or handle sharp objects ! Stay in his wheelchair !

His cheer leaders should reconsider their following him. He appears to have lost all grasp of reality !!

Stoner  posted on  2018-07-16   11:22:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Stoner, Tooconservative, Deckard, Liberator (#22) (Edited)

Gatlin:

Libertarians on Liberty’s Post suppress dissent – Sad. "

Stoner:

Uh guys. Is someone delusional, hallucinating, or have they been consuming copious amounts of illegal substances ???

Last I heard, Liberty's Post is closed, and has been for some time now. Maybe whoever posted that title is a closet druggy, or has really serious mental issues ! [Underline Added].

Paraphrasing –

Uh, Stoner. Are you “delusional, hallucinating, or have they been consuming copious amounts of illegal substances” ???

Last I remember, there is no “Liberty’s Post” and there never was a “Liberty’s Post.” However, there was a “Liberty Post”.

Maybe whoever posted “Last I heard, Liberty’s Post is closed, and has been for some time now is a closet druggy, or has really serious mental issues.”

Stoner, since you wrote “Liberty’s Post” is closed, then common sense must dictate that you meant to write “Liberty Post” is closed....instead of writing “Liberty’s Post” is closed.

A typographical error (often shortened to typo), a mistake made in the typing process (such as spelling, misuse of tense, leaving out a word or using a wrong word) is not an uncommon mistake, and I can understand how it happened to you.

I can’t write “Liberty’s Flame” and neither can you write “Liberty Post”.

Touché ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   1:34:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Gatlin, all (#41)

" Stoner, since you wrote “Liberty’s Post” is closed, then common sense must dictate that you meant to write “Liberty Post” is closed....instead of writing “Liberty’s Post” is closed. "

Hey dumbass. I did not "write" anything !! I simply copied and pasted what YOU wrote, in the title of your article.

You are truly one DUMB MO FO !!!

You only good here for being a boil on this forums ass. You are like a monkey flinging poo / gatlin at everyone here.

I have wasted too much time on a asshole such as you !! I am done! GO AWAY !!

Stoner  posted on  2018-07-17   7:47:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Stoner (#44)

You are truly one DUMB MO FO !!!

He'll never admit he made a mistake.

He's here to troll and disrupt - nothing more.

You only good here for being a boil on this forums ass.

I think he enjoys being an asshole, just like GrandIsland.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-17   8:21:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard (#45) (Edited)

" He's here to troll and disrupt - nothing more. "

He certainly does that well !!

This used to be a enjoyable board, until he came back. He is like some monkey coming into your house, and he poos in the floor, throws it around the room, smears it on the walls, breaks dishes, turns over furniture, etc.

It is amazing to me why someone would expend that much time and effort to do that. To what benefit ?

Must have a real shitty life. Definitely a small mind. Probably has no family, and no friends. A real shame. As much of a nuisance as he is, I pity him !

Stoner  posted on  2018-07-17   9:18:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Stoner (#47)

Where are the PHOTOS of “McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood?”

Admit, you can’t show any….ADMIT IT.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   9:58:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Gatlin (#53)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F18coot.jpg&f=1

Stoner  posted on  2018-07-17   10:08:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Stoner (#54)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

Now he's trying to claim that ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are not related.

Is there any end to his madness?

The Muslim Brotherhood’s Ties to ISIS and Al-Qaeda

Before ascending to the highest positions of ISIS and al-Qaeda, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Osama bin Laden, and Ayman al-Zawahiri belonged to a common ideological precursor, the Muslim Brotherhood. The trajectories of these three extremist leaders highlight the significant ideological overlap between today’s most notorious violent Islamist groups—ISIS and al-Qaeda—and the worldwide Muslim Brotherhood movement.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-17   10:33:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Deckard, Stoner, CZ82, EVERYBODY (#56)

Here dumb ass. If you want more, the web is full of them

Now he's trying to claim that ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are not related.

Oh !!!

SPIN….SPIN….SPIN….

I am trying to make NO such claim.

I am only showing that Stoner EMPHATICALLY stated there were photos (two or more) showing “McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.” When there definitely are NONE

So, I made a mistake by typing “Liberty’s Post” when I meant to type “Liberty’s Flame.”

And then Stoner tried to make a Federal issue out of that mistake by calling all his fellow assholes together while he took bows.

Is there any end to his madness?
There can never be madness to making statements that are ACCURARE and TRUTHFUL. Not mistakenly identifying one group as a different group. But of course you will never realize this.
The Muslim Brotherhood’s Ties to ISIS and Al-Qaeda
I don’t give a fuck that the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to both ISIS and Al_Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is NOT ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

Stoner SPECIFICALLY posted there were photos (two or more) showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. He posted something that is untrue….TOTALLY UNRUE.

And you, Deckard, need to cease immediately trying to “cover up” Stoner’s “fuck up.”

So, I am here today to show Stoner, and the rest of you for that matter, that KARMA really is a BITCH.

There can be NO question that Stoner meant to state “ISIS” when he stated “Muslim Brotherhood.” Jut as I meant ot state “Liberty’s Flame” when I stated “Liberty’s Post.”

He made a mistake, just as I made a mistake. He gave me Hell fo rmy mistake and now he stand silent about his mistake….while you try to act as his “mouthpiece”.

Since I have now rubbed Stoner’s nose in his own shit, I feel completely vindicated. Thank you, Stoner.

I close this post by citing the Golden Rule: All you libertarian heathens MAY remember the "Golden Rule" was given by Jesus of Nazareth in (Matthew 7:12 NCV ( see also Luke 6:31). The common English phrasing is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Read that carefully, Stoner. And try….TRY….to apply it in your daily life, and especially to your postings on LF.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   11:24:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin, Stoner (#59)

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Read that carefully, Stoner.

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.

Projection... is commonly found in the neurotic or psychotic in personalities functioning at a primitive level as in narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-17   11:45:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Stoner, Deckard, CZ82 (#62)

I hope I have made it perfectly that you FUCKED up, Stoner, when you misidentified “ISIS” as the “Muslim Brotherhood”.

Just as I fucked up when I typed “Liberty’s Post” instead of “Liberty’s Flame”.

So, the next time you try to launch a personal attack on me and ridicule something I posted….you damned well best make sure your house is in, and stays in proper order….because I will be coming back after your ass AGAIN.

BTW – The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified. You can check this out by starting here with Snopes. If you don’t want to believe Snopes, then there are many other sites who say the same thing. Look them up if you need to.


A photograph taken in Syria in 2013 shows Senator John McCain posing with a commander of a Syrian opposition group, not ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.


This is ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. He has a 10 million dollar bounty on his head and it is not likely that he would be meeting a US Senator with all the Senator’s security around. Also, it is reported that he had a beard when the group picture above was taken and he still had the beard after that picture wastaken.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:14:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Gatlin (#63) (Edited)

The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified.

Juan McCain, The Admiral's Military Industrial Teat-suckling son.



Perhaps in the next life he'll hatch from his tiny little chry$ali$ and become the mighty war moth he always wanted to be?

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   12:31:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: VxH (#66)

Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange.
Perhaps …
Perhaps some day you will have enough sense to make an intelligent post relative to the discussion at hand.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Gatlin (#68)

"Libertarians on Liberty’s Post now find it perfectly acceptable to pursue the tyrannical practice of blacklisting anyone whose words offend their delicate sensibilities."-

-Gatlin

"Fuck Off you stupid asshole. That meme has absolutely NOTHING to do with the exchange."-

-Also Gatlin

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hyp·o·crite
ÈhipYÌkrit/
noun
  1. a person who indulges in hypocrisy.
    synonyms:pretender,  dissembler, deceiver,  liar, pietist,  sanctimonious person,  plaster saint ;

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Gatlin.

 

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   13:14:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: VxH (#75)

Asshole
Adjective
ass hole
1. an adjective, used to describe an array of dispositions. it's hard to generalize assholes, because there are so many types. There's the stuck-up, superficial "i am better than everyone" asshole; There's the "i hate the world and everything in it" asshole; there's the "i'm pretending to be nice to your face, but later i'm going to talk all kinds of shit about you" asshole; goodness....the list goes on and on. In the end, we're all assholes....some of us are just better at it than others.

Also see VxH.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-17   15:17:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Gatlin (#82) (Edited)

A while back I worked with a drunk who, every year at our company Christmas party, used to love telling the story about how he called Robert Redford an "asshole" when he was assigned a seat next to RR on a plane.

========================

Drunk: My wife will kill me if she finds out I sat next to you and I didn't get your autograph for her.

RR: Well then don't tell her.

Drunk: Don't tell her what?

RR: Don't tell her you sat next to me.

Drunk: You know what, you're an asshole.

========================

I explained that RR was simply responding to the disingenuous way he asked for RR's autograph; and raised the possibility that maybe RR wasn't the real asshole in his seating section.

The Drunk never told that story at our Christmas party again.

YMMV!

VxH  posted on  2018-07-17   16:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: VxH (#84)

... and raised the possibility that maybe RR wasn't the real asshole in his seating section.
Ah, YOU were also in his seating section.

I get it …

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-18   5:05:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Gatlin (#100)

I get it …

Doesn't leave much bandwidth headroom for getting anything else, does it.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-18   12:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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