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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Trump nominates Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court Source: YouTube URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxA_fh_cMA Published: Jul 9, 2018 Author: staff Post Date: 2018-07-09 21:25:39 by buckeroo Keywords: None Views: 12934 Comments: 160 Kool Pick! Should go through the Senate seamlessly. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-119) not displayed.       .       .       . #120. To: tpaine (#118) It is YOU who characterize the laws I want to pass as "religious" and "repugnant". I merely want the Supreme Court to rule that substantive due process prohibits the killing of an unborn child, because the child had no opportunity to have a fair trial before being deprived of life. That's a constitutional question, not a religious one. YOU say it's religious. I say it's a matter of national security. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-13   21:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #121. To: Vicomte13, tpaine (#117) I don't think Nolu and I actually disagree at all. I was saying that Supreme Court opinions are law, and they are. I said the same as you. I see no disagreement on the law. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-13   21:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #122. To: tpaine, Vicomte13 (#118) (Edited) SCOTUS opinions can be, and are overturned by amendments, legislative law, and/or executive & public inaction.. -------------------- ALL are legitimate when the scotus opinion is unconstitutional. (IE, Dred Scott) The Opinion of the Court in Dred Scott was not unconstitutional, was correctly decided, and I very much doubt you have the slightest clue what the mandate of Dred Scott said, or what the actual decision of the case was. Dred Scott is still citable as good law, and has been cited as recently as 2016 by the Solicitor General of Kansas in a brief to the Supreme Court of Kansas. SCOTUS opinions interpreting the Constitution are overturned by Amendments to the Constitution, or by the Court revisiting the issue as in Brown and separate but equal. Public inaction does nothing. Executive inaction may mean a lack of enforcement, but it does not effect a legal overturning of the Opinion. Digress as you [Vicomte13] will, the fact remains, your desire to pass religious laws is repugnant, and gives aid and comfort to our enemies. He did not say he wants to pass religious laws. He said he wants laws passed that align with his religious moral beliefs. Some have a moral belief that all abortion is wrong and should be prohibited. Advocating for said belief is repugnant to pro-choice folks, not repugnant to pro-life folks, and does not give aid and comfort to our enemies, something that refers to enemies in time of war. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-13   22:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #123. To: Vicomte13 (#120) Catholics ------- simply have our set of interests and beliefs, and we want to see them enacted as the law of the land. Nothing more, nothing less. I merely want the Supreme Court to rule that substantive due process prohibits the killing of an unborn child, because the child had no opportunity to have a fair trial before being deprived of life. That's a constitutional question, not a religious one. YOU say it's religious. I say it's a matter of national security. You 'merely' want the Supreme Court to enact a Catholic belief as the law of the land.. What you want is specifically mentioned as being unconstitutional in the First Amendment.. Give it up.. tpaine  posted on  2018-07-13   23:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #124. To: nolu chan (#122) He did not say he wants to pass religious laws. He said he wants laws passed that align with his religious moral beliefs. ---- (Yes, he wants his religious moral beliefs passed into laws.) Some have a moral belief that all abortion is wrong and should be prohibited. Advocating for said belief is repugnant to pro-choice folks, not repugnant to pro-life folks, and does not give aid and comfort to our enemies, something that refers to enemies in time of war. We have radical Muslim enemies working to install Shira 'law', in the USA.. Religious laws are repugnant to the First Amendment of our Constitution... Why are you giving and and comfort to religious radicals? tpaine  posted on  2018-07-13   23:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #125. To: nolu chan (#121) Exactly Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-13   23:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #126. To: tpaine (#124) You don’t get to characterize motive. Well, let me correct myself: it’s a free country - you can ascribe whatever motive you like. The liberals just attempted to block Trump’s travel ban because they said that deep down inside it was motivated by religious hatred, but the Supreme Court does not presume to sift through the hearts of men. It’s analysis is straightforward: it’s an immigration matter, the president controls that, what the President is doing has national security as its stated purpose, not racial or religious animus, and the ban is aimed at countries that have a rational relationship to terror - not every Muslim country. Therefore, the law has a rational basis, and it’s clearly within the President’s power. End of analysis. You want to go farther, to plumb the hearts of men. You know that my motivation for wanting to ban abortion is because I know that the human being is ensouled at conception, a concept rooted in religion, not science. You know that is my motivation - that I believe that because I am Catholic and think that my church is correct on the matter. But that is not the basis I have argued. I have pointed to the fact that the unborn baby is going to be killed, legally, without having been convicted of any crime, and without a process or a hearing. I’m squarely arguing the due process clause of the 14th amendment. I note that it applies to “persons”, and that there’s no formal definition in law as to when a person becomes a person. I am asking the court to establish that as a constitutional matter, to preclude the states from deciding differently, just as Roe precludes the states from deciding differently in the other direction. I know I cannot win at the ballot box, and I know that the legislatures of many states won’t go along, So I need a super-powered body to override the democracy if I am going to get my way. That’s why this has to be done through the Supreme Court. There is no other way to do it. I am a pragmatic objective-driven person, a military man with a military mind. I am interested in winning the war, and the ends justify the means, when the ends are mine. Of course I will bellyache when the other side with ends I don’t support try the same thing and win - not because I don’t understand why they have done what they have done, nor even because I am really morally outraged at their tactics. I am annoyed at their victory - I want to win. If things are expressed in such a direct and honest people, less ruthless minds will quail and retreat. Therefore, hypocrisy is the hommage that my vice of pragmatic ends-justify-the-means victory seeking pays to the virtue of formal rights-based legalism. I will make my argument in the form required for the people who don’t want to face the truth directly, and dance the legal fan dance of concealed motives and hypocrisy, in order to get my way. Am I really outraged at the way the abortion supporters fight their battle? Of course not. They want to win, and they have been effective at it. I despise their cause, but I tip my hat to their skill in advancing it within our system. It seems to me that you MIGHT be doing the same thing, but the trouble is that you’re stating things about the physics of the battlefield that are not true. You’re making Pickett’s Charge, over and over again. That was never going to work. IN our system, you don’t get to read my heart. You only get to react to my argument. Yeah, I want to win a Catholic victory. But no, I have not come onto the battlefield under an icon of Mary. I’ve argued the 14th amendment and due process. I can’t win under an icon - that’s impossible given our system. But I COULD win under the constitutional argument, if similarly minded judges are sitting up there seeking a pretext to do the right thing. Oh, what a terrible person I am for not directly stating my intentions but hiding them behind valid legal arguments. Hypocrisy is the hommage vice renders to virtue. That’s our system. I am not about making a beau geste. I’m always about winning the battle and getting my way. So sue me. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-13   23:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #127. To: tpaine (#124) We have radical Muslim enemies working to install Shira 'law', in the USA.. We have radical nutters claiming their imaginary law is the law of the land. The Republic has not collapsed because of it. We have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. I have yet to have an encounter where anyone attempted to require me to obey Sharia law. Religious laws are repugnant to the First Amendment of our Constitution... Laws reflecting a religious moral belief are not prohibited. Laws establishing a state religion are prohibited. The Catholic religion, and many Catholics, maintain as a religious moral belief that all abortion is wrong and sinful. If the people adopted a Constitutional amendment that all abortion was unlawful, or an amendment confirming that a right to abortion emanates from a penumbra of the Bill of Rights, there would be no First Amendment Freedom of Religion implication. Nobody would have established the Church of Choice, or the Church of Life, as the Church of the United States. A religious moral belief, such as choice or life is not a religion. The official United States motto is In God We Trust (P.L. 84-140, 70 Stat. 732). And we are all free to be athiests. https://www.scribd.com/document/383819804/70-Stat-732-PL-850-National-Motto-In-God-We-Trust Why are you giving and and comfort to religious radicals? Why are you espousing radical beliefs and trying to pass them off as the actual law of the United States? The right to free speech gives you the right to preach your radical beliefs, even where they are far removed from reality. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-14   0:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #128. To: Vicomte13 (#126) (Edited) tpaine  posted on  2018-07-14   2:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #129. To: Vicomte13 (#126) Vicomte13 wrote at (#120) ------ Catholics ------- simply have our set of interests and beliefs, and we want to see them enacted as the law of the land. Nothing more, nothing less.I I merely want the Supreme Court to rule that substantive due process prohibits the killing of an unborn child, because the child had no opportunity to have a fair trial before being deprived of life. That's a constitutional question, not a religious one. YOU say it's religious. I say it's a matter of national security. I replied: :----- You 'merely' want the Supreme Court to enact a Catholic belief as the law of the land.. What you want is specifically mentioned as being unconstitutional in the First Amendment.. Your last reply: --- "Oh, what a terrible person I am for not directly stating my intentions but hiding them behind valid legal arguments. Hypocrisy is the hommage vice renders to virtue. That’s our system. I am not about making a beau geste. I’m always about winning the battle and getting my way. So sue me." Instead of a lawsuit, -- how bout I take pity on you, and let you rest? --' You could also consider finding some professional help... tpaine  posted on  2018-07-14   2:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #130. To: nolu chan (#127) Why are you espousing radical beliefs and trying to pass them off as the actual law of the United States? My comments about our Constitution are only radical in your confused mind.. You too need rest... tpaine  posted on  2018-07-14   2:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #131. To: tpaine (#129) Instead of a lawsuit, -- how bout I take pity on you, and let you rest? --' You could also consider finding some professional help... Instead of getting professional help, how about I smile at the progressive Hispanicization of America, recognizing the fact that Latinos are much more pro-life on average than whites, even while being more pro- social state. In other words, as the country fills up with my co-religionists, the Democrat party in particular fills up with people who are markedly less pro-choice than they are, but who otherwise will maintain necessary social welfare. All I have to do is sit and wait and time and demographics will give me the victory. The Republicans won't be doing it, nor the Independents. It will come from a Democratic Party that has become dominated by Latin Catholics, and they think like I do on abortion. Give it up? Why would I do that? I'm pretty much winning on everything I care about. Some recipes take longer to cook. Better learn Spanish. Si, se puede. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-14   6:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #132. To: Vicomte13 (#131) You are not winning. Remember Satan loses in the end. The pope will burn in hell. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-14   8:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #133. To: Vicomte13 (#131) Instead of a lawsuit, -- how bout I take pity on you, and let you rest? --' You could also consider finding some professional help... Instead of getting professional help, how about I smile at the progressive Hispanicization of America, ----- There you go again, smiling about the 'progressive' death of our Republic.. Your every post gives aid and comfort to our enemies. --- You shame yourself.. tpaine  posted on  2018-07-14   10:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #134. To: Vicomte13 (#131) Better learn Spanish. Si, se puede. [Yes, we can] To paraphrase Ronald Reagan... Tear down that wall Mr. Pope, and let the illegal aliens in! Francis hates immigrants. Trump loves them, and will sign amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. It's "a bill of love." Jeb! will be so proud of Donnell then. Yes we can, deport all of the illegal aliens. Hondo68  posted on  2018-07-14   11:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #135. To: hondo68 (#134) Yes we can, deport all of the illegal aliens. Yes you could, but no, you won't. You won't because your Republican capitalists will never tolerate the loss of profits from the cheap exploitable labor, and of course the Democrats will join with the Republican capitalists because the Dems are looking forward to the votes of the illegals' children (and some of the illegals themselves). If you can get your Republicans in line with what you want, you would get it. But you can't, they won't, and it won't happen. Pity. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-14   12:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #136. To: tpaine (#130) My comments about our Constitution are only radical in your confused mind.. Your claims about the Constitution are not citable to any legal authority but The tpaine Court of the Imagination™. The views of a minority of one, posing as the established law of the land, is about as radical as it gets. nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-14   17:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #137. To: hondo68, Vicomte13 (#134) Si, se puede. [Yes, we can] Where did we come from? nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-14   17:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #138. To: Vicomte13, tpaine (#131) (Edited) How about I smile at the progressive Hispanicization of America, recognizing the fact that Latinos are much more pro-life on average than whites, even while being more pro- social state. So when MS-13 swarms into YOUR town, squat across the street in a tent as the town grow more dangerous, socialist and ILLEGALLY Hispanic...you mean YOU'RE ok with that? And btw -- Latinos may be more pro-life than "whites" (secular, atheist and RCC whites that is), but by and large the ONLY way these ILLEGAL INVADER families and the fathers can afford larger families is because they are being subsidized by AMERICAN taxpayers. IOW, they are thieves of US sovereignty and US taxpayer resources via socialism at the local, state and national level. WITHOUT OUR CONSENT. Yet THIS theft without the consent of Americans makes you smile? Just...weird on so many levels. All I have to do is sit and wait and time and demographics will give me the victory....as the country fills up with my co-religionists... HUH?? Give YOU "the victory"?? Over who? WHO LOSES?? REAL AMERICANS?? Protestant Americans? That's a pretty galling principle. In your mind you've declared war...on the USA. Just like the Globalists and Democrats Moreover, it's actually treasonous and a betrayal of all those descendants of the Americans who've established, built AND sacrificed for the principles of the Founders. [My victory] will come from a Democratic Party that has become dominated by Latin Catholics, and they think like I do on abortion. Talk about a Pyrrhic victory. The day the the dominant demo of Democrats are the same outlaw Latinos who invaded the USA and re-established La Raza is THE day there is no more USA. Chyeah -- "WOO-HOO!!" Feliz Cinco de Mayo! And btw Vic -- the Democrats' "holy sacrament" of Abortion will NEVER change. Their leadership will remain the Tom Perez-Che types. I'm pretty much winning on everything I care about. As confused as you seem to be across the board about issues that really matter to freedom and sovereignty, that doesn't surprise me. Better learn Spanish. Why? Was a war fought and someone forgot to tell us? Or...Are some posters moving to El Salvador or Mexifornia? Liberator  posted on  2018-07-14   18:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #139. To: nolu chan, Vicomte13 (#137) Where did we come from? Bizarre. Love to see the answer to that simple question. Liberator  posted on  2018-07-14   18:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #140. To: hondo68, Vicomte13 (#134) To paraphrase Ronald Reagan... Tear down that wall Mr. Pope, and let the illegal aliens in! Francis hates immigrants. Trump loves them, and will sign amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. It's "a bill of love." Jeb! will be so proud of Donnell then. To paraphrase John McEnroe: "You can NOT be serious!!" (Applies to both you and Vic.) Yet I know you are serious. Both of you are. But Hondo, I can't tell you how impressed I am by your consistent brilliance at conflating several inanities in a single post. Oy. I'm starting to miss the rational arguments of Yukon. Liberator  posted on  2018-07-14   18:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #141. To: Liberator (#139) Love to see the answer to that simple question. Would it matter? buckeroo  posted on  2018-07-14   19:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #142. To: Liberator (#138) So when MS-13 swarms into YOUR town, Greenwich, Connecticut? Seems unlikely. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-15   6:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #143. To: Liberator (#138) Moreover, it's actually treasonous and a betrayal You guys lose the bubble every time you go here. You are a minority. You do not get to define treason. Whenever you scream that I am traitor, with my two decades of military service, including wartime service, because you disagree with me politically, my mind immediately goes to full FUCK YOU mode. No, I'm not a traitor, and who the hell do you people think you are to say I am. I will tell you what you are. You are a minority in a losing cause. Your ideas have not prevailed. you have not held the battlefield. Know why? Because there is a fundamental, irreconcilable illogic in the basic principles on which your beliefs are built. You try to glue together Christianity, militarism and unregulated capitalism, all into one. That creates a set of beliefs as much in conflict and unworkable as Soviet Communism. And your ideas failed in the battlefield of ideas. They did not produce an economy prosperous enough, or a society stable enough, to be able to hold the votes in a democracy. So you receded from power and other more practical ideas took hold. Now, people like me want to work with you, and part of that means bringing you in off the ledge of crazy and making you see WHY your ideas do not hold together and do not make rational sense. They are in conflict with each other, and they have actually failed already on the field of political battle. But you adopt a "take no prisoners" approach AS THOUGH you are the superior army. Many of you hearken back to the old Confederacy and how grand it was, and how right its cause was. But then you stride onto that battlefield like Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg, and you don't realize that, actually, you're the inferior army, you're the weaker side. So you do something damned foolish just like he did, and charge directly at the stronger, better equipped army: Pickett's Charge. You charge straight into the guns, AS THOUGH somehow God were on your side and will carry you through to victory. And just exactly like Lee's Confederates at Gettysburg, you get massacred. The disciplined, larger, stronger army on the other side just pours fire down on you, and God stands on the side of the bigger battalions. Your brave warriors get shot all to pieces in a charge that any sensible commander should have known was hopeless, and stupid, and both the battle and the war is lost in an afternoon. But then, instead of learning from it, and admitting that Robert E. Lee was really a fool, you curl back into a fetal position of pride and extol his virtues and the virtues of your cause, even as everything goes to pieces around you. Truth is, the battle didn't need to be fought in the first place. Yes, yes, imaged language. That seems to exceed your ability to grasp, so I'll be straightforward. When somebody calls me a traitor - I stop reading. You've lost when you do that. Whatever you have to say after that is pointless, because your reasoning has already derailed. My long service and combat medals erase your ability to call me that, especially if you don't have any. Simple fact is, I put myself in harm's way for this country for two decades, and you did not. Therefore, you are an idiot when you call me a traitor, and what you have to say is of zero value. You can scream at the moon, but it's a losing position. We disagree politically, and I'm a very intelligent, experienced and successful man. Successful in the military. Successful in this American economy since the military. A top one percent. The sort of success story that Americans like you claim is the be all and end all of America. But you want to presume to lecture me with your hysterical politics, like a woman on her period. It's ridiculous. What you say is ridiculous, over the top. And it brings out my bad manners. Now, if you want to have a calm, rational discussion of the issues, I am all for that. But the distemper that guys like you, or Stone or others thrown at me is the whining of angry old men and fringe people whose causes are lost. You don't have power BECAUSE you speak stupidly and spit at people. You can't get along with people, so you scream at them that they are traitors. It's Pickett's Charge all over again, time after time, and you never learn a goddamned thing from it. Do I want the country to go Spanish? No, not really. But if it's a choice between Spanish-speakers and morons who presume to call me a traitor, I'd rather replace you with them, yeah. And that's YOUR fault, buddy, not mine. You lose the fight, and the war, every time you resort to "traitor" or "Marxist" or any of these other teenage words of an hysterical woman. You lost when you call the Catholic Church "Satanists" or the Pope "the poop" or any of the other 14 year old logic. I stay here because it amuses me to do so. Sometimes I realize that my doing so is just an utter waste of time, that I'd be better off doing just about ANYTHING else - going and taking a walk down on the beach, etc. I stay, I think, because actually I came right out of the deep country like you did, and I am an American success story, and I have plenty to teach you. The most important lesson is how to calm down and be reasonable and moderate in tone, and not come unglued under pressure. You're just going to keep on losing as long as you do that. If you're calling me a traitor, you've gone postal and lost. Every time. No matter how angry you get, I am not a traitor, by definition, and if you've become so wedded to some political position that you're calling me one, it means that YOU have gone off into carnkville and need to rein yourself back in. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-15   7:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #144. To: Liberator (#138) (Edited) Vic is a weirdo. Anyone who claims they raise mice and cockroaches from the dead isn't all there mentally. The guy is delusional and isn't really pro life. He said he prefers hollary and abortion to Ted criz and Christianity. He's a flake and a fake. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #145. To: Vicomte13 (#143) You guys lose the bubble every time you go here. You are a minority. You do not get to define treason. Whenever you scream that I am traitor, with my two decades of military service, including wartime service, Hitler and Benedict Arnold were in the military too. So your service doesn't mean shit in determining if you are a traitor. You like about stupid stuff like raising mice from the dead. So you could lie about anything and everything. Or maybe you're just nuts. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #146. To: Vicomte13 (#143) will tell you what you are. You are a minority in a losing cause. Jesus said we would be the minority Mr worldly Vic. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #147. To: Vicomte13 (#143) You try to glue together Christianity, militarism and unregulated capitalism, all into one. That is as true as you sucking Hillary's dick. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #148. To: Vicomte13 (#143) They did not produce an economy prosperous enough, or a society stable enough, to be able to hold the votes in a democracy. So you receded from power and other more practical ideas took hold. Mouse boy is delusional! A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #149. To: Vicomte13 (#143) Now, people like me want to work with you, and part of that means bringing you in off the ledge of crazy and making you see WHY your ideas do not hold together and do not make rational sense. They are in conflict with each other, and they have actually failed already on the field of political battle. Crazy Catholic pope worshipper thinks real Christian's would want to work with him is a sick notion. Get to the back of the bus weirdo. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #150. To: Vicomte13 (#143) You can scream at the moon, but it's a losing position. We disagree politically, and I'm a very intelligent, experienced and successful man. Successful in the military. Successful in this American economy since the military. A top one percent 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Vic you have more than the man Jesus told to sell all he had. You claim you care about the poor. I doubt that with your pro abortion rhetoric you let slip in your pro Hillary screed. It is easier for a rich man to... A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #151. To: Vicomte13 (#143) Do I want the country to go Spanish? No, not really. But if it's a choice between Spanish-speakers and morons who presume to call me a traitor, I'd rather replace you with them, yeah. And that's YOUR fault, buddy, not mine. More traitor talk. Fuck you deceiver. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #152. To: Vicomte13 (#143) You lose the fight, and the war, every time you resort to "traitor" or "Marxist" or any of these other teenage words of an hysterical woman. You lost when you call the Catholic Church "Satanists" or the Pope "the poop" or any of the other 14 year old logic. The pope is a piece of shit and a liar just like you. You worship the pope not God. The pope does follow the doctrine of demons and you certainly have Marxist philisophies. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #153. To: Vicomte13 (#143) stay, I think, because actually I came right out of the deep country like you did, and I am an American success story, and I have plenty to teach you. The most important lesson is how to calm down and be reasonable and moderate in tone, and not come unglued under pressure. You're just going to keep on losing as long as you do that. Yes we can learn much from you. Like when you said you wanted to murder all right wingers to save America. Yes Vic you have much to teach us. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #154. To: Vicomte13 (#143) If you're calling me a traitor, you've gone postal and lost. Every time. No matter how angry you get, I am not a traitor, by definition, and if you've become so wedded to some political position that you're calling me one, it means that YOU have gone off into carnkville and need to rein yourself back in. You have not committed treason Vic. But some of your statements show you are ok betraying your people. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-15   7:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #155. To: A K A Stone (#151) Do I want the country to go Spanish? No, not really. But if it's a choice between Spanish This is the filthy ideology (from Vic) that’s slowly consuming this republic as illegal invaders grow in numbers... soon we will have no borders... or country. The invasion is being used to FORCE democracy and eliminate the REPUBLIC. Anyone like Vic that is too fucking stupid to recognize this, was never really a constitutional conservative. Now you might see that some of the long time posters, for both here and LP, are farther left than they ever would admit. There was a good reason for the wheelchair RINO to evict them from his RINO chit chat channel. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   7:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #156. To: GrandIsland, and all of our leftist trolls (#155) Now you (AKA) might see that some of the long time posters, for both here and LP, are farther left than they ever would admit. There was a good reason for the wheelchair RINO ------ Not only here and LP, but going back to FR I've been disputing politics with these leftist personas, including but not limited to: --- misterwhite, gatlin, vicomte, etc.. Those are the names they call themselves now, -- but at other sites there are scores more of persona names used and discarded... As you mention, the wheelchair rino evicted all of them eventually, ever though most of them gave him money to post.. --- Needless to say, -- I too was 86ed for disturbing JR's 'core group' of meal tickets, --- with my constant opposition to these leftist trolls. Not to complain; --- it's been great fun playing gotcha with these clowns... tpaine  posted on  2018-07-15   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #157. To: A K A Stone (#153) Yes we can learn much from you. Like when you said you wanted to murder all right wingers to save America. Yes Vic you have much to teach us. You definitely do need me. I'm the only bridge you've got to the real world. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-16   8:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #158. To: tpaine (#156) Those are the names they call themselves now, -- but at other sites there are scores more of persona names used and discarded... I have never been anything other than Vicomte13 anywhere. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-16   8:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #159. To: GrandIsland (#155) Anyone like Vic that is too fucking stupid to recognize this, was never really a constitutional conservative. Now you might see that some of the long time posters, for both here and LP, are farther left than they ever would admit. Admit? I've never hidden anything about my politics. They're not particularly Leftist or Rightist. They're just plain right. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-16   8:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #160. To: A K A Stone (#154) You have not committed treason Vic. But some of your statements show you are ok betraying your people. I am quite loyal to "my people". I define who "my people" are. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-16   8:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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