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Title: For Ron Paul supporters, ignorance is bliss
Source: Des-Moines-Conservative-Examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-22564-Des ... iss?cid=edition-rss-Des_Moines
Published: Dec 24, 2009
Author: Kevin Hall
Post Date: 2009-12-27 03:10:05 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Ron Paul, Libertarian
Views: 315
Comments: 5

Ron Paul supporters walk through life with blinders on.  They believe the Texas congressman is absolutely right on every issue.  When it comes to foreign policy, that means almost every other Republican is absolutely wrong.

Paul ranks alongside ultra-liberal Dennis Kucinich as having the weakest foreign policy stances in the U.S. House.  Tuesday, Paul and Kucinich were two of only 12 House members that voted against imposing new sanctions on Iran.  The resolution that would penalize foreign companies from selling oil to Iran passed 412-12.  "This will unify the Iranian people against us," Paul incorrectly predicts. 

The truth is, the Iranian regime is dangerous and out of control.  It grows ever closer to creating a nuclear arsenal that the Iranians keep threatening to use against Israel.  Iran must be kept in check with economic sanctions.  The recent uprising of the Iranian people against their oppressive government will intensify if these sanctions are put in place.

Paul's stance on this falls perfectly in line with his world view.  He takes the ostrich approach, burying his head in the sand and pretending the U.S. would have no problems with other countries if we just left everyone alone.  Paul wants the U.S. military pulled not just from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from bases all over the world like Korea, Japan and Germany.  He opposes U.S. support of Israel.

Paul's views are completely out of the mainstream, but you cannot explain that to his supporters.   They will tell you he won every GOP debate in 2008.  They point to opinion polls showing he won.  What they refuse to tell you is Paul's very loyal supporters figured out ways to spam all of those polls.  Offline polls showed little support for Paul.

During Iowa Caucus night in 2008, a Paul supporter stood in front of a group of America-loving conservatives in Sioux Center, Iowa and told them, "We all know the United States is no longer a great country."  The crowd apparently did not know that, and less than a handful voted for Ron Paul.

His supporters blindly believe Ron Paul could actually be President some day. "Paul has just as good a chance of winning as any other contender if he decides to run," a commenter wrote in regards to a Ron Paul column I wrote last month.  Any clear thinking person realizes Ron Paul will never be a serious contender for the GOP nomination or the Presidency.

Paul's supporters are well intentioned, but their in-your-face approach hurts his cause.  They chased, cursed at and threw things at Sean Hannity after Paul was excluded from a Fox News debate in New Hampshire.  They reportedly surrounded buses carrying Mitt Romney supporters to the Iowa Straw Poll, chanting loudly and not letting people off the bus.  They are accused of creating illegal computer spam to promote their candidate.  None of these things are appealing to the vast majority of Republican voters.

Paul is more of a libertarian than a Republican.  A lot of conservatives agree with Paul's domestic policy views, like lower spending and smaller government.  However, his weak foreign policy, accompanied by over-the-top supporters, make Ron Paul an annoying distraction in serious political discussion.

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#3. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Take away the insurmountable (for me) dope coddling, head in the sand FP and illegal alien enabling and he's spot on.

Too bad.

e_type_jag  posted on  2009-12-27   21:19:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: e_type_jag (#3)

Take away the insurmountable (for me) dope coddling, head in the sand FP and illegal alien enabling and he's spot on.

Too bad.

I could argue all three points but this one is most important:

Head in the sand foreign policy?

Do you agree more with George Soros or George Washington on foreign policy?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-28   19:04:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#4)

I could argue all three points but this one is most important:

Head in the sand foreign policy?

Hi WTP : I posted the below to you on LP

Good neo! Attack those conservatives! Conservatives?

RP is at best a fabulously bipolar conservative:

Positively shoulders above even a Ronald Reagan on many issues....he'd be great if that's what he provided.

Instead we get added to the good the:

a) steaming pile of S44T that is legalized dope....for the benefit of who ..... nobody will peg that one very well.

b) pussified doublespeak on booting the illegals OUT....OUT.....where they came from before they can breed even a single b@@ch to plant an anchor. Last thing we need is more peasants settling here unwilling to assimilate or produce much more than crookedly nailed sheetrock, haphazard lawnmower streaks and clean hotel rooms.

c).....lastly and most tellingly....a guy whose foreign policy is simply mind our own business within our borders......a well meaning thought....but simply not relevant to human nature and world history as it's played out.

He's a guy who offers nothing more than "our actions made the moslems attack us".....That's his foreign policy.....That's it. Though some part of that may have led to anti-USA sentiment....he has no cognizance of the imperialist moslem threat we face.......the same threat that many other countries "not as meddling" as ours are now faced with. Moslem threats are now worldwide....that simply is not brought on by US meddling.

So....

He has no plan of action to move forward from where we are today. Moslems attacking and what can you enunciate that he's do to stop it from continuing? Go prone himself before some assahola and say "we know we have sinned against you and the moslem people"......and what??....viola!!!....all will be well with everything?....maybe bow lower and tell the mostard we'll even condemn the isrealis and close our diplo relations with them (which is the other red herring the mostards spew on as a reason to fly airplanes into our buildings)?

So that's it......no plan to do anything but give mea culpas up the wazoo and all will be fine.

Item c is why this guy is probably more dangerous than the other kook kookoonich and should remain a 2%er.

I know virtually nothing of his son Rand. Here's hoping he doesn't follow in his father's decades long run on the gov't tit.

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