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Title: 'Warlords Will Take Over' and Other Lines Libertarians Are Tired of Hearing
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Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/reasontv/2018/07 ... -libertarians-tired-of-hearing
Published: Jul 6, 2018
Author: Justin Monticello
Post Date: 2018-07-06 22:23:25 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 543
Comments: 4
Venezuela didn't try real socialism. Bitcoin is a tool for criminals. Without big government, warlords will take over. We traveled deep into the woods of New Hampshire to ask the libertarians at the 2018 Porcupine Freedom Festival, a.k.a. PorcFest, what lines they're most tired of hearing. Organized by the Free State Project, the annual festival is a week-long campout for libertarians, anarchists, and other self-identified fans of freedom. They gathered to attend workshops, purchase cannabis-infused coffee with cryptocurrency, and talk philosophy around a raging bonfire. There was plenty of ideological diversity, but the attendees seemed united by the reactions that their friends and family members have to their political views. Produced, shot, and edited by Justin Monticello. Music by Dan Lebowitz, The Grand Affair, Geographer, and Matt Harris.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Wait....never mind. History has shown there is no such thing as a libertarian government.
The town of Cherán was once plagued by people claiming the right to rule over them and now they live peaceful lives free of violence. After the town of 20,000 people in Mexico decided to take matters into their own hands by kicking out politicians, cops, and criminals, the now completely voluntary society is running great and the people finally have freedom and peace. Cherán is now run by autonomous groups of armed individuals acting on a voluntary basis, with no one making laws, but no one harming each other either. Choosing to work together instead of submitting to the authoritarian regime previously claiming ownership over the town and those who reside in it, the people couldn’t be doing better now that they’ve grabbed a firm hold of their freedom.
The town of Cherán was once plagued by people claiming the right to rule over them and now they live peaceful lives free of violence. After the town of 20,000 people in Mexico decided to take matters into their own hands by kicking out politicians, cops, and criminals, the now completely voluntary society is running great and the people finally have freedom and peace. Cherán is now run by autonomous groups of armed individuals acting on a voluntary basis, with no one making laws, but no one harming each other either. Choosing to work together instead of submitting to the authoritarian regime previously claiming ownership over the town and those who reside in it, the people couldn’t be doing better now that they’ve grabbed a firm hold of their freedom. Cherán is the only municipality inhabited mainly by indigenous Purépecha, a culture that seeks to preserve its identity and cultural traits, which are closely linked to concerns about the fertility of the land and care of resources. The community of Cherán has occupied this territory since before the colonization process. It has conserved its own institutions to organize itself in the political, cultural, economic and social sphere, and this has been reflected in its social dynamics. The inhabitants of the municipality have combined their own practices with the national law, in a dual law regime. The inhabitants of the municipality have combined their own practices with the national law, in a dual law regime. After the expulsion of the municipal authorities, an "organizational structure" composed of a general coordination and 12 commissions took over the control of the entire community. ... they decided to exercise their right to appoint their own authorities through their own normative systems. The rights to autonomy and self-determination had been recognized by international treaties as well as by the national legal system. Cheran thus decided to move forward along this path and to eliminate the local political party system....It thus asked the electoral institute of the state of Michoacán to organize the appointment of new municipal authorities of the community under the traditional system of "uses and customs". Cherán decided to mobilize the law as a political and legal strategy. They used state (and hegemonic) law in a "counter-hegemonic sense" to materialize their struggle for self-determination and to form their self-government. In response to the EIM (Electoral Institute of Michoacan), the community decided to judicialize its right to "autonomy and self-determination". They demanded in the courts the right to choose their own authorities based on the system of "uses and customs", through a "Trial for the Protection of the Political-Electoral Rights of the Citizen" in the Electoral Tribunal of the Judicial Power of the Federation (ETJPF, or TEPJF by their initials in Spanish). Two months later, on November 2, 2011, the Superior Chamber of the ETJPF ruled in favor of the indigenous community of Cherán. It recognized that Cherán had the right to request the election of its own authorities through its "uses and customs" and ordered the EIM to organize this election, after free and informed consultation with the entire community. Following this triumph of a counter-hegemonic use of state law and the ETJPF decision, a “free, prior and informed consultation” was organized in the community to decide whether or not it wanted to appoint its new authorities through its "uses and customs". The result of the consultation was positive. In January 2012, a democratic election was duly held, giving rise to the constitution of a new government figure: the first indigenous municipal government, called "Mayor Council of Communal Government" (Concejo Mayor de Gobierno Comunal), composed of 12 "K’eris" (seniors) chosen among the “comuneros” and “comuneras” (members of the community), three for each of four districts. There is no hierarchy among them, that is to say, all occupy the same position within the communal government. They were appointed for a 3-year period 2012-2015. The first time, a "uses and customs" election was organized by the EIM and by the community itself, respecting its own procedures, through a kind of ritual, without ballot boxes and without political parties. It differs from the model of "uses and customs" in the Southern Mexican state of Oaxaca, as the later system only serves a procedural function in the election of its authorities. In the case of Cherán, there was a "transformation in the structure, logic and relations of the municipal government", when the hierarchical figures of "president, elected representatives and councillor" disappears and the government becomes a genuinely collegial body. The new communal government Following these elections, the seat of the city council or municipal palace was transformed into the "Communal House of Government". The police were replaced by a "community round". The municipal president, representatives and councillors take part in a "Common Council of Communal Government"; Likewise, "operational councils" have been constituted as well as "commissions" for civil affairs, social development, procurement and conciliation of justice, education, culture, health, identity, campfires, water, cleanliness and youth. All them are aware that the maximum authority is the "General Assembly" composed of all the inhabitants of Cherán. All them are aware that the maximum authority is the "General Assembly" composed of all the inhabitants of Cherán. You are trying to make the story of Cherán into something it is NOT. It is NOT a Libertarian Government and it is NOT a municipality with NO government. It is an indigenous tribe forming their own government by electing a Mayor and 12 Council Members. This is nothing new. Indigenous Indian tribes across Arizona and throughout the US have done the same thing.....form their OWN government.
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Was it a “libertarian government” the townspeople overthrew?
#2. To: Gatlin (#1)
History has shown there is no such thing as a libertarian government.
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
History has shown there is no such thing as a libertarian government.
I say again: History has shown there is no such thing as a libertarian government. Cherán is NOT a libertarian government. Cherán. 5 years of self-government in an indigenous community in Mexico. Here is a picture of the Mayor and Community Government Council.
Dream on ... 
Concejo Mayor de Gobierno Comunal.
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